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Sat Jul 6, 2013 6:59 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Norman Lloyd" norman_lloyd
I prefer to use Apache Open Office,
which works the same as office, but is free.
Give it a try!
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which works the same as office, but is free.
Give it a try!
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 8:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
It's a good price partly because it's the Home and Student flavor.
If you buy this, first be sure the serial number/ownership can transfer
legally to you.
There is a free converter program from Microsoft that can convert .DOCX
format files to .DOC files. You can download it from Microsoft.
A number of Apple programs like TextEdit that come with your Mac can
open DOCX files.
There are also a number of open source office programs with word
processing programs that can open DOCX files.
Open Office.
LibreOffice.
NeoOffice.
KOffice.
I've tried both Open Office and NeoOffice but it was several years
ago. I've never tried LibreOffice or KOffice. KOffice is, I think,
done by a Canadian company.
For occasional use, one of these might do just fine.
Denver Dan
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:46:59 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> Office for Mac Home & Student 2011 - 1 Pack [Old Version]$74.39
>
> My version of Office is pretty old and won't work on my Mac Mini so
> the few times I need it, I have to switch to my G4. I stumbled upon
> this while looking for something else and since the price seems good,
> I guess it would be a good deal, right? It's an open box, it says,
> but the seller has a 95% positive rating.
>
> I nearly never use Office, but am sometimes sent a .docx and my G4
> will only open .doc so I have to ask people to re-send in the older
> format.
>
> Louise
It's a good price partly because it's the Home and Student flavor.
If you buy this, first be sure the serial number/ownership can transfer
legally to you.
There is a free converter program from Microsoft that can convert .DOCX
format files to .DOC files. You can download it from Microsoft.
A number of Apple programs like TextEdit that come with your Mac can
open DOCX files.
There are also a number of open source office programs with word
processing programs that can open DOCX files.
Open Office.
LibreOffice.
NeoOffice.
KOffice.
I've tried both Open Office and NeoOffice but it was several years
ago. I've never tried LibreOffice or KOffice. KOffice is, I think,
done by a Canadian company.
For occasional use, one of these might do just fine.
Denver Dan
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:46:59 -0400, Louise Stewart wrote:
> Office for Mac Home & Student 2011 - 1 Pack [Old Version]$74.
>
> My version of Office is pretty old and won't work on my Mac Mini so
> the few times I need it, I have to switch to my G4. I stumbled upon
> this while looking for something else and since the price seems good,
> I guess it would be a good deal, right? It's an open box, it says,
> but the seller has a 95% positive rating.
>
> I nearly never use Office, but am sometimes sent a .docx and my G4
> will only open .doc so I have to ask people to re-send in the older
> format.
>
> Louise
Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
Still not working.
My main computer (mini) uses Ethernet so usually have Airport off.
I've done this:
1. Turn on Airport in my mini
2. Confirm Sys Prefs > Network shows Ethernet uppermost in the left column of connections
3. Confirm Sys Prefs > Sharing shows "Internet Sharing" is checked
4. Pull down Airport Menu and choose "Create Network", choose a network name & password.
The Airport menu bar icon now contains a small mac icon.
5. Open Settings > Wi-Fi in both the iPod Touch & iPhone and choose the mini wireless network
and enter the password when asked.
I receive a 192.168... IP address.
When checking mail on either iDevice I get "Connection to the server failed" error message.
The signal strength icon on the iDevices shows 4 bars (full strength).
Just as a another factoid, this iPhone and iPod Touch both work flawlessly when connected to various wireless networks I use at businesses and friend's homes.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
-=-=-=-
On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:13 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Yes, Dave, if you don't have another piece of hardware, then you need to have the Mac create a computer-to-computer network. Otherwise it is like one tin cans, with no string and a second can.
>
> You need to set up the network and set up the sharing, like I said before.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> AFAIK all you should need to do is:-
>>
>> Enable Internet Sharing (already done).
>>
>> Connect an ethernet cable. This will automatically become the primary
>> network connection.
>>
>> Leave AirPort (Wi-Fi) *on* and it will be available for sharing.
>>
>> I'm on 10.8 but I'll try this later if you have no luck.
>>
>> Otto
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My main computer (mini) uses Ethernet so usually have Airport off.
I've done this:
1. Turn on Airport in my mini
2. Confirm Sys Prefs > Network shows Ethernet uppermost in the left column of connections
3. Confirm Sys Prefs > Sharing shows "Internet Sharing" is checked
4. Pull down Airport Menu and choose "Create Network"
The Airport menu bar icon now contains a small mac icon.
5. Open Settings > Wi-Fi in both the iPod Touch & iPhone and choose the mini wireless network
and enter the password when asked.
I receive a 192.168... IP address.
When checking mail on either iDevice I get "Connection to the server failed" error message.
The signal strength icon on the iDevices shows 4 bars (full strength).
Just as a another factoid, this iPhone and iPod Touch both work flawlessly when connected to various wireless networks I use at businesses and friend's homes.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
-=-=-=-
On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:13 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Yes, Dave, if you don't have another piece of hardware, then you need to have the Mac create a computer-to-
>
> You need to set up the network and set up the sharing, like I said before.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> AFAIK all you should need to do is:-
>>
>> Enable Internet Sharing (already done).
>>
>> Connect an ethernet cable. This will automatically become the primary
>> network connection.
>>
>> Leave AirPort (Wi-Fi) *on* and it will be available for sharing.
>>
>> I'm on 10.8 but I'll try this later if you have no luck.
>>
>> Otto
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:17 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dolores" djdesideri
I've been looking for a list of programs Mavericks will be able to run/not run. Haven't found one yet. Is such a thing available?
I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know whether to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
dolores
I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know whether to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
dolores
Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe
Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
Mike
And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
On 7/6/13, 1:17 PM, "Dolores" <djdesi98@gmail.com > wrote:
> I've been looking for a list of programs Mavericks will be able to run/not
> run. Haven't found one yet. Is such a thing available?
>
> I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know whether
> to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
>
> dolores
>
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
Mike
And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
On 7/6/13, 1:17 PM, "Dolores" <djdesi98@gmail.
> I've been looking for a list of programs Mavericks will be able to run/not
> run. Haven't found one yet. Is such a thing available?
>
> I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know whether
> to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
>
> dolores
>
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"imran khan" sj.imran
Hi
Good Day.
If you are badly in need of a Mac go for the current model.
If you are going for new Mac with 10.9 then consider the below:
1. Your existing printer or scanner may not be supported.
2. Third party plug-ins may not work , if you are using some video or audio
editing software.
3. Sometimes external drives won't mount.
Iam on 10.9 numbers is working fine for me. But formulas in excel is not
working. Most of the Adobe apps of CS5 and CS5.5 are not working.
Toast wont burn cds properly.
But I like App nap , tagging and multi Window.
Remember every OS needs atleast first one update to fix issue.
Regards
Ik
On Jul 6, 2013 10:17 PM, "Dolores" <djdesi98@gmail.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> I've been looking for a list of programs Mavericks will be able to run/not
> run. Haven't found one yet. Is such a thing available?
>
> I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know
> whether to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
>
> dolores
>
>
>
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Good Day.
If you are badly in need of a Mac go for the current model.
If you are going for new Mac with 10.9 then consider the below:
1. Your existing printer or scanner may not be supported.
2. Third party plug-ins may not work , if you are using some video or audio
editing software.
3. Sometimes external drives won't mount.
Iam on 10.9 numbers is working fine for me. But formulas in excel is not
working. Most of the Adobe apps of CS5 and CS5.5 are not working.
Toast wont burn cds properly.
But I like App nap , tagging and multi Window.
Remember every OS needs atleast first one update to fix issue.
Regards
Ik
On Jul 6, 2013 10:17 PM, "Dolores" <djdesi98@gmail.
> **
>
>
> I've been looking for a list of programs Mavericks will be able to run/not
> run. Haven't found one yet. Is such a thing available?
>
> I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know
> whether to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
>
> dolores
>
>
>
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
> Mike
> And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
If your are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
> Mike
> And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
If your are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>> Mike
>> And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
>
> If your are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
> It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
Daly
Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Michael King wrote:
> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe
> Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
> well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
What do you mean, "iPhone runs but not well"? You mean you can't synch with iTunes?
Daly
Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
> I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have
> rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by
> using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm
> going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
>
> Daly
I Think Apple is trying to move everyone to the iCloud iWorks. The one that
really dose not work at all is Keynote but Pages and Number will Crash
frequently and not really usable. But everything else runs just fine all
Browsers work well and Office 2011 run like a champ as well.
Mike
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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> rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by
> using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm
> going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
>
> Daly
I Think Apple is trying to move everyone to the iCloud iWorks. The one that
really dose not work at all is Keynote but Pages and Number will Crash
frequently and not really usable. But everything else runs just fine all
Browsers work well and Office 2011 run like a champ as well.
Mike
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael King" prudencehalliwell507
On 7/6/13, 4:33 PM, "Daly Jessup" <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
>
> On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Michael King wrote:
>
>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe
>> Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
>> well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>
> What do you mean, "iPhone runs but not well"? You mean you can't synch with
> iTunes?
>
> Daly
Meant iPhoto dose not work right it kind of works but crashes a lot in
editing photos.
Mike
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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>
> On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Michael King wrote:
>
>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe
>> Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
>> well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>
> What do you mean, "iPhone runs but not well"? You mean you can't synch with
> iTunes?
>
> Daly
Meant iPhoto dose not work right it kind of works but crashes a lot in
editing photos.
Mike
Michael King
2.3GHz Quad Core i7 15 inch MacBook Pro (Retina) •
10.9 Mavericks
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>>> Mike
>>> And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
>>
>> If you're are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
>> It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
>
> I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
> Daly
With exactly zero inside information (I elected NOT to play with the Mavericks Developer Preview that I was offered), I will state my absolute certainty that the iWork suite, in some form, will be working with 10.9 before the release date.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>>> Mike
>>> And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
>>
>> If you're are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
>> It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
>
> I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
> Daly
With exactly zero inside information (I elected NOT to play with the Mavericks Developer Preview that I was offered), I will state my absolute certainty that the iWork suite, in some form, will be working with 10.9 before the release date.
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:57 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe
>> Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
>> well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>
> What do you mean, "iPhone runs but not well"? You mean you can't synch with iTunes?
> Daly
He meant "iPhoto"....
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.com
>> Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
>> well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>
> What do you mean, "iPhone runs but not well"? You mean you can't synch with iTunes?
> Daly
He meant "iPhoto"
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@icloud.
Sat Jul 6, 2013 3:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
It's just spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) to make statements about software that doesn't work under a prerelease version of the OS.
As Jim said. Information about what applications *work* may be of merit but I take any statements about apps that don't with a large grain of salt.
The thing is still under development.
Dave
Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
On 6 Jul 2013, at 02:31 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
Daly
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As Jim said. Information about what applications *work* may be of merit but I take any statements about apps that don't with a large grain of salt.
The thing is still under development.
Dave
Sent from my phone.
Please forgive auto-fill errors and typos.
On 6 Jul 2013, at 02:31 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.
I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
Daly
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 2:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman
Guess this is kind of late, but my girl and I are exchanging iPod
Touches. She has a 5th gen on the way, courtesy of me, and I am getting
her 4th gen, also was courtesy of me!
I find no way of making the iPod 'mine' aside from a full restore.
Is there an alternative method other than changing the Apple IDs on the
unit. Apple will only allow this to be done once every 90 days, (thanks
AAPL!). Changing IDs locks all the previous owners apps and media and
does NOT allow removal of the apps or media.
Beware before changing the iCloud prefs on a unit. This is now forcing
a restore to the unit for me.
Just curious if there is an alternative.
TIA
H
Touches. She has a 5th gen on the way, courtesy of me, and I am getting
her 4th gen, also was courtesy of me!
I find no way of making the iPod 'mine' aside from a full restore.
Is there an alternative method other than changing the Apple IDs on the
unit. Apple will only allow this to be done once every 90 days, (thanks
AAPL!). Changing IDs locks all the previous owners apps and media and
does NOT allow removal of the apps or media.
Beware before changing the iCloud prefs on a unit. This is now forcing
a restore to the unit for me.
Just curious if there is an alternative.
TIA
H
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