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Sat Jul 6, 2013 4:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Daly Jessup" dalyjessup
On Jul 6, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Michael King wrote:
>>>
>>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe
>>> Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not
>>> well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>>
>> What do you mean, "iPhone runs but not well"? You mean you can't synch with
>> iTunes?
>>
>> Daly
> Meant iPhoto dose not work right it kind of works but crashes a lot in
> editing photos.
Oh, okay. That makes more sense. "iPhone" and "iPhoto" are quite different entities!
Daly
Sat Jul 6, 2013 4:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"bob morin" rbmorin2002
On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.
> I Think Apple is trying to move everyone to the iCloud iWorks. The one that
> really dose not work at all is Keynote but Pages and Number will Crash
> frequently and not really usable.
Frankly I was planning to get a new iMac later this year. I now will not.
bob
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rbmorin11@gmail.
Sat Jul 6, 2013 5:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Bob,
I would hold that decision off until after it comes out.
I am surprised that anyone that is beta-ing for Apple, who has signed a NDA, would make those types of disclosures. I agree with Dave C about the FUD, fear, uncertainty and doubt.
Daly,
I sincerely doubt that Apple would release an OS that would not work with current Apple apps, this soon after dropping Rosetta in 10.7. A lot of people had to buy new software for that one.
Dolores,
I believe you are still running 10.6.8, if so I would first figure on replacing anything that requires Rosetta. Until 10.9 comes out, there is no way of knowing. I would consider the age of any external accessories like printer and scanners, since they often need new drivers with an OS change.
You still have not told us what exact iMac you currently have. See my signature below. You may be able to just upgrade the OS. Why do you want to buy a new one?
In summary, any guess other than Rosetta won't work, is a rumor.
Brent
15" MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X 10.7.5
iPhone 4S, iOS 6.1.3
On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:21 PM, bob morin wrote:
On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.com > wrote:
> I Think Apple is trying to move everyone to the iCloud iWorks. The one that
> really dose not work at all is Keynote but Pages and Number will Crash
> frequently and not really usable.
Frankly I was planning to get a new iMac later this year. I now will not.
bob
bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.com
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I would hold that decision off until after it comes out.
I am surprised that anyone that is beta-ing for Apple, who has signed a NDA, would make those types of disclosures. I agree with Dave C about the FUD, fear, uncertainty and doubt.
Daly,
I sincerely doubt that Apple would release an OS that would not work with current Apple apps, this soon after dropping Rosetta in 10.7. A lot of people had to buy new software for that one.
Dolores,
I believe you are still running 10.6.8, if so I would first figure on replacing anything that requires Rosetta. Until 10.9 comes out, there is no way of knowing. I would consider the age of any external accessories like printer and scanners, since they often need new drivers with an OS change.
You still have not told us what exact iMac you currently have. See my signature below. You may be able to just upgrade the OS. Why do you want to buy a new one?
In summary, any guess other than Rosetta won't work, is a rumor.
Brent
15" MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz, early 2008, Mac OS X 10.7.5
iPhone 4S, iOS 6.1.3
On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:21 PM, bob morin wrote:
On Jul 6, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Michael King <Mking8@gmail.
> I Think Apple is trying to move everyone to the iCloud iWorks. The one that
> really dose not work at all is Keynote but Pages and Number will Crash
> frequently and not really usable.
Frankly I was planning to get a new iMac later this year. I now will not.
bob
bob morin
rbmorin11@gmail.
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Sun Jul 7, 2013 1:13 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"imran khan" sj.imran
Hi
Good Day.
If you are badly in need of a Mac go for the current model.
If you are going for new Mac with 10.9 then consider the below:
1. Your existing printer or scanner may not be supported.
2. Third party plug-ins may not work , if you are using some video or audio editing software.
3. Sometimes external drives won't mount.
Iam on 10.9 numbers is working fine for me. But formulas in excel is not working. Most of the Adobe apps of CS5 and CS5.5 are not working.
Toast wont burn cds properly.
But I like App nap , tagging and multi Window.
Remember every OS needs atleast first one update to fix issue.
Regards
Ik
On Jul 6, 2013 10:17 PM, "Dolores" <djdesi98@gmail.com > wrote:
I've been looking for a list of programs Mavericks will be able to run/not run. Haven't found one yet. Is such a thing available?
I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know whether to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
dolores
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Good Day.
If you are badly in need of a Mac go for the current model.
If you are going for new Mac with 10.9 then consider the below:
1. Your existing printer or scanner may not be supported.
2. Third party plug-ins may not work , if you are using some video or audio editing software.
3. Sometimes external drives won't mount.
Iam on 10.9 numbers is working fine for me. But formulas in excel is not working. Most of the Adobe apps of CS5 and CS5.5 are not working.
Toast wont burn cds properly.
But I like App nap , tagging and multi Window.
Remember every OS needs atleast first one update to fix issue.
Regards
Ik
On Jul 6, 2013 10:17 PM, "Dolores" <djdesi98@gmail.
I've been looking for a list of programs Mavericks will be able to run/not run. Haven't found one yet. Is such a thing available?
I'm still trying to decide when to buy a new iMac/27" and don't know whether to wait for Mavericks to be shipped on new computers or not.
dolores
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Sun Jul 7, 2013 3:31 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
Hi,
On 6 Jul 2013, at 10:31 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com > wrote:
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> On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
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>>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>>> Mike
>>> And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
>>
>> If your are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
>> It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
>
> I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
Quite. Speculating now is pointless. Mavericks is in a BETA state so it should be expected to everyone that there might be some niggles right now. Personally, i am willing to better they will be gone in the final version. It just makes no sense at all for intel applications that run fine in 10.8 to be dropped in 10.9 ...
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On 6 Jul 2013, at 10:31 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.
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> On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
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>>> All I am Allowed to tell you none of iWork will run or run right and Adobe Photoshop kind of works but crashes a lot Aperture and iPhone run but not well. Other than that everything else run fine in Mavericks
>>> Mike
>>> And yes I am on Mavericks Developer Preview 2 right now.
>>
>> If your are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
>> It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
>
> I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
Quite. Speculating now is pointless. Mavericks is in a BETA state so it should be expected to everyone that there might be some niggles right now. Personally, i am willing to better they will be gone in the final version. It just makes no sense at all for intel applications that run fine in 10.8 to be dropped in 10.9 ...
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Sun Jul 7, 2013 3:31 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 6 Jul 2013, at 10:56 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@icloud.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're are on Preview 2, it is reasonable to state what DOES run.
>>> It is NOT reasonable to state what will NOT run in the eventual final version.
>>
>> I found the statement that iWork would not run to be pretty shocking. I have rescued so many people who had depended on AppleWorks for years and years, by using iWork. If it's going away, I sure hope it's going to replaced, or I'm going to feel quite the fool for recommending it to those people.
>> Daly
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> With exactly zero inside information (I elected NOT to play with the Mavericks Developer Preview that I was offered), I will state my absolute certainty that the iWork suite, in some form, will be working with 10.9 before the release date.
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 6:26 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
Dave,
What you are calling Airport is actually WiFi. This has confused me and seems to have confused others. Airport Utility is an app, and Airport Base Station is Apple hardware. Other than that, Airport is where airplanes land and take off. I apologize if I sound like I am talking down, but if we all use the correct terms, then the communications are more effective.
When you got the "Connection to the server failed" error message, was the mini awake?
The signal bars just tell you there is a network it is seeing, not which network it is trying to connect to.
On the iPhone, open Settings/ Wi-Fi and see which network it is trying to connect to. If it is not your network, then click Other and enter in the name of your mini network. Click Security and click the type of encryption you used and then enter the password. You should be connected to your network.
If the above does not work, try turning off the encryption at the mini, when you create the WiFi Network and see if the iDevices can connect. Then let us know how that went. Then try turning on the encryption.
Brent
On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Dave C wrote:
Still not working.
My main computer (mini) uses Ethernet so usually have Airport off.
I've done this:
1. Turn on Airport in my mini
2. Confirm Sys Prefs > Network shows Ethernet uppermost in the left column of connections
3. Confirm Sys Prefs > Sharing shows "Internet Sharing" is checked
4. Pull down Airport Menu and choose "Create Network", choose a network name & password.
The Airport menu bar icon now contains a small mac icon.
5. Open Settings > Wi-Fi in both the iPod Touch & iPhone and choose the mini wireless network
and enter the password when asked.
I receive a 192.168... IP address.
When checking mail on either iDevice I get "Connection to the server failed" error message.
The signal strength icon on the iDevices shows 4 bars (full strength).
Just as a another factoid, this iPhone and iPod Touch both work flawlessly when connected to various wireless networks I use at businesses and friend's homes.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
-=-=-=-
On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:13 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Yes, Dave, if you don't have another piece of hardware, then you need to have the Mac create a computer-to-computer network. Otherwise it is like one tin cans, with no string and a second can.
>
> You need to set up the network and set up the sharing, like I said before.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> AFAIK all you should need to do is:-
>>
>> Enable Internet Sharing (already done).
>>
>> Connect an ethernet cable. This will automatically become the primary
>> network connection.
>>
>> Leave AirPort (Wi-Fi) *on* and it will be available for sharing.
>>
>> I'm on 10.8 but I'll try this later if you have no luck.
>>
>> Otto
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What you are calling Airport is actually WiFi. This has confused me and seems to have confused others. Airport Utility is an app, and Airport Base Station is Apple hardware. Other than that, Airport is where airplanes land and take off. I apologize if I sound like I am talking down, but if we all use the correct terms, then the communications are more effective.
When you got the "Connection to the server failed" error message, was the mini awake?
The signal bars just tell you there is a network it is seeing, not which network it is trying to connect to.
On the iPhone, open Settings/ Wi-Fi and see which network it is trying to connect to. If it is not your network, then click Other and enter in the name of your mini network. Click Security and click the type of encryption you used and then enter the password. You should be connected to your network.
If the above does not work, try turning off the encryption at the mini, when you create the WiFi Network and see if the iDevices can connect. Then let us know how that went. Then try turning on the encryption.
Brent
On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Dave C wrote:
Still not working.
My main computer (mini) uses Ethernet so usually have Airport off.
I've done this:
1. Turn on Airport in my mini
2. Confirm Sys Prefs > Network shows Ethernet uppermost in the left column of connections
3. Confirm Sys Prefs > Sharing shows "Internet Sharing" is checked
4. Pull down Airport Menu and choose "Create Network"
The Airport menu bar icon now contains a small mac icon.
5. Open Settings > Wi-Fi in both the iPod Touch & iPhone and choose the mini wireless network
and enter the password when asked.
I receive a 192.168... IP address.
When checking mail on either iDevice I get "Connection to the server failed" error message.
The signal strength icon on the iDevices shows 4 bars (full strength).
Just as a another factoid, this iPhone and iPod Touch both work flawlessly when connected to various wireless networks I use at businesses and friend's homes.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
-=-=-=-
On Jul 4, 2013, at 5:13 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> Yes, Dave, if you don't have another piece of hardware, then you need to have the Mac create a computer-to-
>
> You need to set up the network and set up the sharing, like I said before.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Dave C wrote:
>
>> AFAIK all you should need to do is:-
>>
>> Enable Internet Sharing (already done).
>>
>> Connect an ethernet cable. This will automatically become the primary
>> network connection.
>>
>> Leave AirPort (Wi-Fi) *on* and it will be available for sharing.
>>
>> I'm on 10.8 but I'll try this later if you have no luck.
>>
>> Otto
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 6:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jim Saklad" jimdoc01
> What you are calling Airport is actually WiFi. This has confused me and seems to have confused others. Airport Utility is an app, and Airport Base Station is Apple hardware.
And "Airport card" is the device in many Mac computers that transmits and receives WIFi signals.
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 8:05 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Dave C" davec2468
On Jul 6, 2013, at 6:26 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> What you are calling Airport is actually WiFi. This has confused me and seems to have confused others. Airport Utility is an app, and Airport Base Station is Apple hardware. Other than that, Airport is where airplanes land and take off. I apologize if I sound like I am talking down, but if we all use the correct terms, then the communications are more effective.
Not my terminology:
http://tinypic.com/r/99l0cx/5
http://oi42.tinypic.com/dw88lv.jpg
> When you got the "Connection to the server failed" error message, was the mini awake?
I never sleep the mini. 24/7 awake. And to confirm, I had been using it for hours, sitting in front of it, doing my daily multitask. No, it never went to sleep while I was making my latest attempt to get this network to work.
> On the iPhone, open Settings/ Wi-Fi and see which network it is trying to connect to. If it is not your network, then click Other and enter in the name of your mini network. Click Security and click the type of encryption you used and then enter the password. You should be connected to your network.
Yes it connects to my network. Or at least it seems to do so. I can choose the network from the list, enter the password. All seems to be fine except that I can't get any activity.
I will also add that it's not due to interference (ie, cordless phones or microwave ovens -- I have neither and neighbors are not close enough to give interference).
> If the above does not work, try turning off the encryption at the mini, when you create the WiFi Network and see if the iDevices can connect. Then let us know how that went. Then try turning on the encryption.
I tried it just now. No change in symptoms.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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> What you are calling Airport is actually WiFi. This has confused me and seems to have confused others. Airport Utility is an app, and Airport Base Station is Apple hardware. Other than that, Airport is where airplanes land and take off. I apologize if I sound like I am talking down, but if we all use the correct terms, then the communications are more effective.
Not my terminology:
http://tinypic.
http://oi42.
> When you got the "Connection to the server failed" error message, was the mini awake?
I never sleep the mini. 24/7 awake. And to confirm, I had been using it for hours, sitting in front of it, doing my daily multitask. No, it never went to sleep while I was making my latest attempt to get this network to work.
> On the iPhone, open Settings/ Wi-Fi and see which network it is trying to connect to. If it is not your network, then click Other and enter in the name of your mini network. Click Security and click the type of encryption you used and then enter the password. You should be connected to your network.
Yes it connects to my network. Or at least it seems to do so. I can choose the network from the list, enter the password. All seems to be fine except that I can't get any activity.
I will also add that it's not due to interference (ie, cordless phones or microwave ovens -- I have neither and neighbors are not close enough to give interference)
> If the above does not work, try turning off the encryption at the mini, when you create the WiFi Network and see if the iDevices can connect. Then let us know how that went. Then try turning on the encryption.
I tried it just now. No change in symptoms.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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Sat Jul 6, 2013 9:56 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"N.A. Nada"
I stand corrected, I did not remember that 10.6.8 called it Airport. Thankfully Apple corrected that in 10.7.
The reason that it may not work is that it seems you are using an OS that what was originally sent out on your Mac mini. That could be a simple explanation as to why it does not work.
Brent
On Jul 6, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Dave C wrote:
On Jul 6, 2013, at 6:26 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> What you are calling Airport is actually WiFi. This has confused me and seems to have confused others. Airport Utility is an app, and Airport Base Station is Apple hardware. Other than that, Airport is where airplanes land and take off. I apologize if I sound like I am talking down, but if we all use the correct terms, then the communications are more effective.
Not my terminology:
http://tinypic.com/r/99l0cx/5
http://oi42.tinypic.com/dw88lv.jpg
> When you got the "Connection to the server failed" error message, was the mini awake?
I never sleep the mini. 24/7 awake. And to confirm, I had been using it for hours, sitting in front of it, doing my daily multitask. No, it never went to sleep while I was making my latest attempt to get this network to work.
> On the iPhone, open Settings/ Wi-Fi and see which network it is trying to connect to. If it is not your network, then click Other and enter in the name of your mini network. Click Security and click the type of encryption you used and then enter the password. You should be connected to your network.
Yes it connects to my network. Or at least it seems to do so. I can choose the network from the list, enter the password. All seems to be fine except that I can't get any activity.
I will also add that it's not due to interference (ie, cordless phones or microwave ovens -- I have neither and neighbors are not close enough to give interference).
> If the above does not work, try turning off the encryption at the mini, when you create the WiFi Network and see if the iDevices can connect. Then let us know how that went. Then try turning on the encryption.
I tried it just now. No change in symptoms.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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The reason that it may not work is that it seems you are using an OS that what was originally sent out on your Mac mini. That could be a simple explanation as to why it does not work.
Brent
On Jul 6, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Dave C wrote:
On Jul 6, 2013, at 6:26 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> What you are calling Airport is actually WiFi. This has confused me and seems to have confused others. Airport Utility is an app, and Airport Base Station is Apple hardware. Other than that, Airport is where airplanes land and take off. I apologize if I sound like I am talking down, but if we all use the correct terms, then the communications are more effective.
Not my terminology:
http://tinypic.
http://oi42.
> When you got the "Connection to the server failed" error message, was the mini awake?
I never sleep the mini. 24/7 awake. And to confirm, I had been using it for hours, sitting in front of it, doing my daily multitask. No, it never went to sleep while I was making my latest attempt to get this network to work.
> On the iPhone, open Settings/ Wi-Fi and see which network it is trying to connect to. If it is not your network, then click Other and enter in the name of your mini network. Click Security and click the type of encryption you used and then enter the password. You should be connected to your network.
Yes it connects to my network. Or at least it seems to do so. I can choose the network from the list, enter the password. All seems to be fine except that I can't get any activity.
I will also add that it's not due to interference (ie, cordless phones or microwave ovens -- I have neither and neighbors are not close enough to give interference)
> If the above does not work, try turning off the encryption at the mini, when you create the WiFi Network and see if the iDevices can connect. Then let us know how that went. Then try turning on the encryption.
I tried it just now. No change in symptoms.
Thanks,
Dave
OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
2011 Mini 2.7 GHz dual i7 / 16 GB / 250 GB & 750 GB
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Sun Jul 7, 2013 3:47 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Tammy Leverett" tammytml
Hi everyone,
Doe anyone use the application Check (formerly Pageone)? If so what are your thoughts on it? Is it "safe" to enter your personal information?
Tammy
Imac User
Doe anyone use the application Check (formerly Pageone)? If so what are your thoughts on it? Is it "safe" to enter your personal information?
Tammy
Imac User
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