12/09/2011

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1a.

Re: keystroke snooping Dvorak ???

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:51 pm (PST)



>>> I rarely (... \--: ...) make spelling mistakes, as I am always looking at the monitor. Of course, I always proof. (... [--: ...)
>>
>> Emoticons don't seem to work well from a Dvorak keyboard.
>
> Actually, emoticons work the same on Dvorak keyboards.

Okay, then.
You appear to have some strange and unintelligible emoticons.

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Re: keystroke snooping Dvorak ???

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:58 pm (PST)



On 8 December 2011 23:51, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>
> Okay, then.
> You appear to have some strange and unintelligible emoticons.
>

;) :)

What do those look like?

Otto

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Re: keystroke snooping Dvorak ???

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:32 pm (PST)



>> Okay, then.
>> You appear to have some strange and unintelligible emoticons.
>
> ;) :)
>
> What do those look like?
> Otto

*Yours* have neither periods nor ellipses bracketing them.

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Re: keystroke snooping Dvorak ???

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Thu Dec 8, 2011 5:48 pm (PST)




On Dec 8, 11, at 1:45 PM, Barry Austern wrote:

> At 4:28 PM -0500 12/8/11, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
> >The executive secretary at MIT's AI lab, in the mid-1970's, was
> >flown out to IBM headquarters annually at their expense, to test
> >their keyboards, because she could type 270 wpm.... Jim Saklad
> >
> >Now that (270 wpm) is truly blazing, Jim.
>
> Depends on what words. Although "antidisestablishmentarianism" is a
> word, so is "a."
> --
> Barry Austern

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In typing speed tests, a "word" is usually considered to be five characters.

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Re: keystroke snooping Dvorak ???

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Fri Dec 9, 2011 3:42 am (PST)



On 9 December 2011 00:32, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>
> *Yours* have neither periods nor ellipses bracketing them.
>

Ah ... I'm with you now ...

Otto

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2a.

Re: Questions for Giving my MBP to a friend for Christmas?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:53 pm (PST)



You should delete any user that contains files (that includes IDs and
passwords!) you consider sensitive, *but* create an admin user for your
friend to use to set up his/her own user.

Otto

On 8 December 2011 23:33, harpangel36 <harpangel36@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Should I delete the "users" folder before giving it to my friend? It
> contains 3 folders: one with my name, one that says "shared" and one called
> "test"
>

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Re: Questions for Giving my MBP to a friend for Christmas?

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:08 pm (PST)



Do a clean install on the old Mac, and let your friend start fresh also. Just set up a simple new Admin user account for them.

On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:33 PM, harpangel36 wrote:

> Should I delete the "users" folder before giving it to my friend? It contains 3 folders: one with my name, one that says "shared" and one called "test"
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, imran khan <sj.imran@...> wrote:
> >
> > Honestly , it is good to start fresh. i agree with them. [?]
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:58 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree. Drop the detritus and do clean installs. Move over only your
> > > documents, and leave behind all the preferences, settings, caches,
> > > etcetera. Take screen shots of the preferences and settings, but rethink
> > > each one as you set up the new Mac.
> > >
> > > When I get a new or "new to me" Mac, I only move over the "must have"
> > > "daily drivers", and add any other app only when I find a need for it and I
> > > have checked for updates.
> > >
> > > That way you don't move over any damaged or patched up changes and
> > > updates. You also get rid of any incompatibilities or corrupted crap.
> > >
> > > You will end up with more free space, and a faster Mac.
> > >
>
>

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Re: Questions for Giving my MBP to a friend for Christmas?

Posted by: "imran khan" sj.imran@gmail.com   sj.imran

Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:33 am (PST)



You have to delete the user from system preference , to do so first create
admin account then delete the rest.

If you are handing over the mac with new account , technically no ned to do
fresh install as the new account will be fresh by default..

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:33 AM, harpangel36 <harpangel36@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Should I delete the "users" folder before giving it to my friend? It
> contains 3 folders: one with my name, one that says "shared" and one called
> "test"
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, imran khan <sj.imran@...> wrote:
> >
> > Honestly , it is good to start fresh. i agree with them. [?]
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:58 PM, N.A. Nada <whodo678@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree. Drop the detritus and do clean installs. Move over only your
> > > documents, and leave behind all the preferences, settings, caches,
> > > etcetera. Take screen shots of the preferences and settings, but
> rethink
> > > each one as you set up the new Mac.
> > >
> > > When I get a new or "new to me" Mac, I only move over the "must have"
> > > "daily drivers", and add any other app only when I find a need for it
> and I
> > > have checked for updates.
> > >
> > > That way you don't move over any damaged or patched up changes and
> > > updates. You also get rid of any incompatibilities or corrupted crap.
> > >
> > > You will end up with more free space, and a faster Mac.
> > >
>
>
>

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3a.

Re: camera-card file-retrieval app

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:23 pm (PST)



Oneal, the vast majority of advice I've seen on this subject points to
reformatting your card in your camera as the best way to erase it.

............Mike

On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

>
> On 2011 December 8 (at 07:01) Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>> Can someone explain why using Trash for photo files no longer frees
>> up
>> [camera] space? Thanx for the help thus far. Oneal
>
> In OS X each drive (volume) has its own Trash folder. When you
> delete any
> file, it is moved to the Trash folder *on that drive*. If Trash does
> not
> already exist, it is created. (There's a Terminal command to stop
> this and
> force immediate deletion, which I've mentioned before.)
>
> You need to Empty Trash with the card still mounted to free the space.
>
> This is how OS X works. I don't know how what you did ever worked
> (without
> emptying Trash). Otto
>
>
> I recall --this goes back a couple of years-- that I then emptied my
> camera card merely by using Trash on my computer. I may be
> misremembering this, although I do not think so.
>
> I now use Disk Utility for all camera-card erasures. Thanx for the
> explanation Otto.
>
> Oneal
>
>
>
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3b.

Re: camera-card file-retrieval app

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:58 pm (PST)



Yep. Canons are particularly fussy about this but it's generally
regarded as good practice with any camera.

Dane

On Dec 8, 2011, at 7:23 PM, "Michael P. Stupinski"
<mpstupinski@snet.net> wrote:

> Oneal, the vast majority of advice I've seen on this subject points to
> reformatting your card in your camera as the best way to erase it.
>
> ............Mike

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4a.

Re: File attachments in Lion Mail vs. Entourage

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Thu Dec 8, 2011 5:09 pm (PST)




On Dec 7, 11, at 10:06 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:

>
> On 2011 December 4 (at 19:29) Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> Mail is a hugely popular e-mail application. I've compiled a list of
> about 30 other e-mail programs that are available for the Macintosh,
> and if you'd like I can send it to you. But Mail has a bunch of
> advantages over all of them. Not the least of which is the fact that
> it is easy to use, there are tons of others using it so there is lots
> of peer assistance available, it is dead stable, it just about never
> hiccups and then loses your archived mail as many other apps do, it
> is extensible, it can handle IMAP accounts, it can handle multiple e-
> mail accounts, you can easily create rules, etc., etc. Randy B Singer

*
Well put, Randy. And in addition, Mail is well integrated with other Mac programs, for example, Address Book.

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4b.

Re: File attachments in Lion Mail vs. Entourage

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:09 pm (PST)



Earle Jones wrote:
>
> On Dec 7, 11, at 10:06 PM, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2011 December 4 (at 19:29) Randy B. Singer wrote:
> >
> > Mail is a hugely popular e-mail application. I've compiled a list of
> > about 30 other e-mail programs that are available for the Macintosh,
> > and if you'd like I can send it to you. But Mail has a bunch of
> > advantages over all of them. Not the least of which is the fact that
> > it is easy to use, there are tons of others using it so there is lots
> > of peer assistance available, it is dead stable, it just about never
> > hiccups and then loses your archived mail as many other apps do, it
> > is extensible, it can handle IMAP accounts, it can handle multiple e-
> > mail accounts, you can easily create rules, etc., etc. Randy B Singer

> Well put, Randy. And in addition, Mail is well integrated with other Mac
> programs, for example, Address Book.
>
> earle

I have never got Mail to work right.
It partly works, but not all the way.

I guess I'd better dump it all, and start fresh.
I currently use SM and it works just fine. But...Mail is crippled.
No idea why.

What is, is.

keith

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5a.

Help: Can't find Win 7 on my MBP now

Posted by: "harpangel36" harpangel36@yahoo.com   harpangel36

Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:08 pm (PST)



I have asked a few questions about giving my friend my old MBP. As advised, I added her as a new administrator/user, then deleted myself as a user. Problem is: I had Windows 7 installed and now when I click on VM Fusion it can't find windows.How can I tell if it is on the MBP? And if it isn't, do I just install it again from the Windows CD? I seem to remember having to partition of part of my Mac? But can't remember how I did that.

Thanks so much, Roxanne

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Re: Help: Can't find Win 7 on my MBP now

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:15 pm (PST)



On Dec 8, 2011, at 10:08 PM, harpangel36 wrote:
> I have asked a few questions about giving my friend my old MBP. As advised, I added her as a new administrator/user, then deleted myself as a user. Problem is: I had Windows 7 installed and now when I click on VM Fusion it can't find windows.How can I tell if it is on the MBP? And if it isn't, do I just install it again from the Windows CD? I seem to remember having to partition of part of my Mac? But can't remember how I did that.
>
> Thanks so much, Roxanne

Fusion can use a Bootcamp partition or a virtual drive. The default location for the VM is in Documents/Virtual Machines.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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Re: Apple Store - Grand Central To Open Tomorrow!

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:47 pm (PST)



On Dec 8, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> <http://www.apple.com/retail/grandcentral/?sr=hotnews.rss>

What the hell IS it!?

Daly

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Re: Apple Store - Grand Central To Open Tomorrow!

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:15 pm (PST)



On Dec 8, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> <http://www.apple.com/retail/grandcentral/?sr=hotnews.rss>
>
>
> What the hell IS it!?

The much touted Apple Store located in Grand Central Terminal, NYC.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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Re: Apple Store - Grand Central To Open Tomorrow!

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:12 pm (PST)




On Dec 8, 11, at 7:47 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

> On Dec 8, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
> > <http://www.apple.com/retail/grandcentral/?sr=hotnews.rss>
>
> What the hell IS it!?
>
> Daly

*
It's an announcement that the new Apple Store in New York -- Grand Central -- is opening tomorrow, December 9, 2011.

Be there if you can.

By the way, when the Apple Store opened in Palo Alto (CA) I was there and stood in line to get a nice T-Shirt with "Apple Palo Alto" on the front. I still wear it proudly!

earle
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Re: Apple Store - Grand Central To Open Tomorrow!

Posted by: "vixpix" vixpix@frontiernet.net   nyskater

Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:59 pm (PST)



Ooooooo... Will have to make a visit next week when I'm heading in the city.

Vickie

Sent from a spoiled little iPad

On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net> wrote:

> <http://www.apple.com/retail/grandcentral/?sr=hotnews.rss>
>
> Harry
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
>
>
>

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Re: Backups, drive docks, and bare drives

Posted by: "Charles Lenington" macsonly@brightok.net   fooltouse2

Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:10 pm (PST)



On 12/4/11 3:12 PM, Andrew Buc wrote:
> This is a follow-up to my November 22 post about ordering an external
> drive from Other World Computing and finding that it was built around
> a Toshiba drive rather than the expected Hitachi.
>
> I also spoke to my local Mac tech (who upgraded the internal HD in my
> Mac a couple of years ago), and he said he keeps bare drives around
> (for whatever purpose) and mounts one in a drive dock as needed. This
> has the obvious advantage that I could buy the brand of drive I
> wanted and not have to hassle with mounting it in an enclosure, or
> paying him to do it. I'd had this image of unmounted hard drives as
> rather fragile, so I asked him how I should protect the bare drive on
> the way from home to the safe deposit box (and vice versa), and he
> suggested a ziploc bag.

Find a metal or heavy plastic case or brief case and cut foam to fit
case and hard drive/s. Make sure the latches are tight/working.

So maybe bare drives aren't so delicate after
> all? I can imagine wanting an external drive in an enclosure if I had
> a large amount of data (say, photos) that I wanted to move off the HD
> but still access often, but that isn't my situation.
>
> The tech also said that given the longevity of drives these days, he
> figures on replacing any given drive pre-emptively every 3 years. I
> can see that for my internal drive, which runs 24/7/365, but what
> about a backup that that sees maybe 90 minutes of use a week?

Well you could move the back ups to production drives and put new drives
in use as backups.

If you have 3 production macs and you are using a 3 year drive
replacement cycle you could do one machine a year spreading out costs.

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8a.

Re: Avoiding "Dog" Mac Models

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:04 pm (PST)



So, looks like you found the first two Intel Mac processors to be slower that the ones that followed. The first of any new model tends to to be improved upon in the next few revisions, computers, video recorders, cars, what not.

The video card is another issue.

On Dec 8, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Eric wrote:

> Now we're getting somewhere. Coming up w/the keywords for searches like this is hard sometimes..."worst" was a helpful adjective to add to the mix.
> So far I'm not seeing much in the way of widely agreed upon "dog" models.
>
> What I have found are these poor performers:
> Core Duo Mac mini February 2006
> Core Solo Mac mini February 2006
>
> Models using the 8600GT video card
> Although I haven't found any other evidence other than a Macrumors forum where the 8600GT was mentioned by several as a "fiasco", seeing 4 or 5 posts on one subject made me take note.
> http://tinyurl.com/82xfjme
>
> I didn't mention it, but a mini is also a possibility instead of a Mac Pro. It will all come down to $$ unfortunately.

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