Messages In This Digest (17 Messages)
- 1a.
- OS X Lion From: William
- 1b.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Anthony Smith
- 1c.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Glenn Gutierrez
- 1d.
- Re: OS X Lion From: diane
- 1e.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Prokic Roger
- 1f.
- Re: OS X Lion From: studiodave
- 1g.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Prokic Roger
- 1h.
- Re: OS X Lion From: J2210
- 1i.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Jack
- 1j.
- Re: OS X Lion From: diane
- 1k.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Rob Gendreau
- 1l.
- Re: OS X Lion From: diane
- 1m.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Prokic Roger
- 1n.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Jack
- 1o.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Prokic Roger
- 1p.
- Re: OS X Lion From: studiodave
- 1q.
- Re: OS X Lion From: Jack
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OS X Lion
Posted by: "William" a1operator@wildblue.net cwfingertalker
Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:01 pm (PDT)
Hello to the Group,
Well it now appears I have to upgrade my MacBook to Lion since I recently upgraded my iPad to iOS5. The synching between the two is not working smoothly. I surmise I have to be using iCloud on both platforms for synching to work properly.
So my question is to those in the Group how is the upgrade doing? Any issues I need to know about before doing the upgrade? I have heard the download takes about an hour or so.
Thanks in advance.
Bill
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Anthony Smith" anthonysmith1288@gmail.com smith.tony1988
Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:05 pm (PDT)
Took me 25 minutes
On Oct 22, 2011 3:01 PM, "William" <a1operator@wildblue.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Hello to the Group,
>
> Well it now appears I have to upgrade my MacBook to Lion since I recently
> upgraded my iPad to iOS5. The synching between the two is not working
> smoothly. I surmise I have to be using iCloud on both platforms for synching
> to work properly.
>
> So my question is to those in the Group how is the upgrade doing? Any
> issues I need to know about before doing the upgrade? I have heard the
> download takes about an hour or so.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Glenn Gutierrez" yah@glenngutierrez.com glenng@ymail.com
Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:21 pm (PDT)
On 22 Oct 2011, at 1:01 PM, William wrote:
> Hello to the Group,
>
> Well it now appears I have to upgrade my MacBook to Lion since I recently upgraded my iPad to iOS5. The synching between the two is not working smoothly. I surmise I have to be using iCloud on both platforms for synching to work properly.
Sync was working fine for my iPhone 3GS with iOS 5 and Snow Leopard. I just didn't get the extras like Photostream and iCloud data. So you may want to investigate that before changing anything else.
> So my question is to those in the Group how is the upgrade doing? Any issues I need to know about before doing the upgrade? I have heard the download takes about an hour or so.
The download time depends on your connection. It is very large at 3.53 GB, so I started it when I went to bed. After it downloads, it holds on the first dialog for your approval. So you can let it sit there while you're away.
That's actually a good time to quit the installer and dig into the application's contents for the recovery disc image. After the installation is complete, it deletes itself. You can always re-download from the Mac App Store, but it's another 3.53 GB to wait out.
I backed mine up to a $9 8GB USB flash drive. It took all of 11 minutes..
http://osxdaily.com/2011/ 07/08/make- a-bootable- mac-os-x- 10-7-lion- installer- from-a-usb- flash-drive/
Running Lion is surprisingly nice! I held off on this Mac Pro because it's my audio production machine. Most important was making sure all of my software and external hardware would still work. (98% of it did.) Next was making sure this was even worthwhile with a lot of the marketing boasting of gestures that I wouldn't use. But I can say that, as long as nothing else is broken, it was still worth thirty bucks for the numerous refinements.
If you don't use your Mac for audio or video production, the other big thing to watch out for is old PowerPC applications that are currently using Rosetta to keep working on Intel processors. I had a few of those, and had to make sure I had alternatives. One was an old barcode generator--which used to be $250+, but can now be found on the Mac App Store for $29. Done. Then I had old versions of apps I stopped upgrading like Office 2004, Freehand and Flash MX. For the Office stuff, I'm using iWork (I never really touch fancy macros in Excel, I write web apps instead). I've migrated from Freehand to Illustrator finally, and from Flash to HTML5/JS and/or Tumult Hype or Adobe Edge. Short version: Check your pre-2007-ish apps to make sure they are not "Application (PowerPC)" or just "Application". You want to see "Application (Intel)" or at least "Application (Universal)" when you Get Info.
Aside from that, the water's fine. :) Good luck!
G
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "diane" diane@74ghia.com dianed143
Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:30 pm (PDT)
At 8:01 PM +0000 10/22/11, William wrote:
>
>
>Hello to the Group,
>
>Well it now appears I have to upgrade my MacBook to Lion since I
>recently upgraded my iPad to iOS5. The synching between the two is
>not working smoothly. I surmise I have to be using iCloud on both
>platforms for synching to work properly.
I'm confused..... I don't see anywhere in the iOS5 specs that it
requires Lion. The iPhone 4S (which I am days away from getting) says
it runs on 10.5.8.
What am I missing?
Thanks so much,
Diane
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:41 pm (PDT)
iCloud requires Lion.
---
Roger Prokic
-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:30 PM, diane <diane@74ghia.com > wrote:
> At 8:01 PM +0000 10/22/11, William wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello to the Group,
>>
>> Well it now appears I have to upgrade my MacBook to Lion since I
>> recently upgraded my iPad to iOS5. The synching between the two is
>> not working smoothly. I surmise I have to be using iCloud on both
>> platforms for synching to work properly.
>
>
> I'm confused..... I don't see anywhere in the iOS5 specs that it
> requires Lion. The iPhone 4S (which I am days away from getting) says
> it runs on 10.5.8.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Thanks so much,
> Diane
>
>
> --------------------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "studiodave" studiodave@sistudio.net studiodave1
Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:46 pm (PDT)
Well not completely. I logged into iCloud and shared files, keep my
calender and contacts up to date with my iPhone 4 and my G5 running
10.5.8 yes that's a PowerPC machine.
Dave
On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> iCloud requires Lion.
>
> ---
> Roger Prokic
>
> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:30 PM, diane <diane@74ghia.com > wrote:
>
> > At 8:01 PM +0000 10/22/11, William wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello to the Group,
> >>
> >> Well it now appears I have to upgrade my MacBook to Lion since I
> >> recently upgraded my iPad to iOS5. The synching between the two is
> >> not working smoothly. I surmise I have to be using iCloud on both
> >> platforms for synching to work properly.
> >
> >
> > I'm confused..... I don't see anywhere in the iOS5 specs that it
> > requires Lion. The iPhone 4S (which I am days away from getting)
> says
> > it runs on 10.5.8.
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
> > Thanks so much,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --------------------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:49 pm (PDT)
But you can't sync to your Mac if it's not Lion.
---
Roger Prokic
-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:46 PM, studiodave <studiodave@sistudio.net > wrote:
> Well not completely. I logged into iCloud and shared files, keep my
> calender and contacts up to date with my iPhone 4 and my G5 running
> 10.5.8 yes that's a PowerPC machine.
>
> Dave
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
>
>> iCloud requires Lion.
>>
>> ---
>> Roger Prokic
>>
>> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:30 PM, diane <diane@74ghia.com > wrote:
>>
>>> At 8:01 PM +0000 10/22/11, William wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello to the Group,
>>>>
>>>> Well it now appears I have to upgrade my MacBook to Lion since I
>>>> recently upgraded my iPad to iOS5. The synching between the two is
>>>> not working smoothly. I surmise I have to be using iCloud on both
>>>> platforms for synching to work properly.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm confused..... I don't see anywhere in the iOS5 specs that it
>>> requires Lion. The iPhone 4S (which I am days away from getting)
>> says
>>> it runs on 10.5.8.
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Thanks so much,
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------- --------- ------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "J2210" j_YahooReg200510@ordinary.com tw22102200
Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:11 pm (PDT)
20111022
At 5:49 PM -0400 10/22/11, Prokic Roger wrote regarding Re: [MacBook] OS X Lion:
But you can't sync to your Mac if it's not Lion.
---
Roger Prokic
> Well not completely. I logged into iCloud and shared files, keep my
> calender and contacts up to date with my iPhone 4 and my G5 running
> 10.5.8 yes that's a PowerPC machine.
>
> Dave
--------------<whole lotta snipping...>
Here is what I received in an Apple email today:
*iCloud requires iOS 5 on iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPod touch (3rd and 4th generation), iPad, or iPad 2; a Mac computer with OS X Lion; or a PC with Windows Vista or Windows 7 (Outlook 2007 or 2010 required for accessing contacts and calendars). Some features require a Wi-Fi connection. Some features are not available in all countries. Access to some services is limited to 10 devices. Previous purchases may be unavailable if they are no longer in the iTunes Store.
Lion is required, but for what? iOS 5, iCloud, or both? Or just for synching? I certainly am not ready to run Lion (too many unwanted changes), but I do not want to lose the ability to sych my iPad 2 & phone to my MBPro.
JH
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Jack" 303kk@comcast.net baron58y
Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:04 pm (PDT)
On 10/22/11 4:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> iCloud requires Lion.
>
Are their no privacy concerns with the iCloud concept?
Jack
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "diane" diane@74ghia.com dianed143
Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:33 pm (PDT)
At 5:41 PM -0400 10/22/11, Prokic Roger wrote:
>
>
>iCloud requires Lion.
So for the time being, an iPhone 4S will work on a PPC running
10.5.8, although Dave does seem to be using iCloud with his PPC. I'm
still kind of up in the air about iCloud anyway.
Thanks!
Diane
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Rob Gendreau" rob.gendreau@gmail.com rob_gendreau
Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:53 pm (PDT)
LOL
On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:33 PM, diane wrote:
> I'm
> still kind of up in the air about iCloud anyway.
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "diane" diane@74ghia.com dianed143
Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:03 pm (PDT)
At 4:52 PM -0700 10/22/11, Rob Gendreau wrote:
>
>
>LOL
>
>On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:33 PM, diane wrote:
>
>> I'm
> > still kind of up in the air about iCloud anyway.
>
Hah! That really wasn't intentional :)
Diane
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:06 pm (PDT)
What are you asking Jack?
---
Roger Prokic
-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net > wrote:
> On 10/22/11 4:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
>
>> iCloud requires Lion.
>>
>
>
> Are their no privacy concerns with the iCloud concept?
>
>
> Jack
>
>
> --------------------- --------- ------
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Jack" 303kk@comcast.net baron58y
Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:32 pm (PDT)
On 10/22/11 7:05 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
What I mean, Roger, is: why would I want to dump my information to some
external repository? Are there not enough ways already to lose control
of personal info?
Jack
---
> What are you asking Jack?
>
> ---
> Roger Prokic
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net
> <mailto:303kk%40comcast. net>> wrote:
>
> > On 10/22/11 4:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> >
> >> iCloud requires Lion.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Are their no privacy concerns with the iCloud concept?
>
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:35 pm (PDT)
That's your choice Jack. iCloud is password protected and last I heard Apple isn't Facebook.
And the Patriot Act is still the law.
So if they want your info they will get it no matter if it resides in the cloud or on your hard drive.
Roger
---
Roger Prokic
-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net > wrote:
> On 10/22/11 7:05 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
>
>
> What I mean, Roger, is: why would I want to dump my information to some
> external repository? Are there not enough ways already to lose control
> of personal info?
>
>
> Jack
> ---
>
>> What are you asking Jack?
>>
>> ---
>> Roger Prokic
>>
>
>> On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net
>> <mailto:303kk%40comcast. net>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/22/11 4:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
>>>
>>>> iCloud requires Lion.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are their no privacy concerns with the iCloud concept?
>>
>
>
>
> --------------------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "studiodave" studiodave@sistudio.net studiodave1
Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:19 am (PDT)
No joke, don't worry they already have all your info.
I do indeed use some small part of the features of iCloud on my G5 PPC
but it does not sync with the cloud. It does sync with my iPhone and
my Mac with 10.5.8 PPC Mac and iOS 5 on the iPhone through iTunes.
This is the way I have synced since my first iPhone. Pictures, videos,
contacts, calenders and mail.
Dave
On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> That's your choice Jack. iCloud is password protected and last I
> heard Apple isn't Facebook.
>
> And the Patriot Act is still the law.
> So if they want your info they will get it no matter if it resides
> in the cloud or on your hard drive.
>
> Roger
>
> ---
> Roger Prokic
>
> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> > On 10/22/11 7:05 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> >
> >
> > What I mean, Roger, is: why would I want to dump my information to
> some
> > external repository? Are there not enough ways already to lose
> control
> > of personal info?
> >
> >
> > Jack
> > ---
> >
> >> What are you asking Jack?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Roger Prokic
> >>
> >
> >> On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net
> >> <mailto:303kk%40comcast. net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/22/11 4:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> iCloud requires Lion.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Are their no privacy concerns with the iCloud concept?
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: OS X Lion
Posted by: "Jack" 303kk@comcast.net baron58y
Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:16 am (PDT)
There are different "theys" about which to be concerned, I suppose. The
ones who can bring warrants or other legal justification aren't the ones
I had in mind. There are plenty of other foreign and domestic threats
out there.
The Cloud may not be Facebook, as another poster mentioned, but it also
isn't subject to our control.
Give it all away for a little convenience? If "password protection" is
enough for you, go to it.
Jack
---
On 10/22/11 7:34 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
>
> That's your choice Jack. iCloud is password protected and last I heard
> Apple isn't Facebook.
>
> And the Patriot Act is still the law.
> So if they want your info they will get it no matter if it resides in
> the cloud or on your hard drive.
>
> Roger
>
> ---
> Roger Prokic
>
> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net
> <mailto:303kk%40comcast. net>> wrote:
>
> > On 10/22/11 7:05 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> >
> >
> > What I mean, Roger, is: why would I want to dump my information to some
> > external repository? Are there not enough ways already to lose control
> > of personal info?
> >
> >
> > Jack
> > ---
> >
> >> What are you asking Jack?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Roger Prokic
> >>
> >
> >> On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Jack <303kk@comcast.net
> <mailto:303kk%40comcast. net>
> >> <mailto:303kk%40comcast. net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/22/11 4:41 PM, Prokic Roger wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> iCloud requires Lion.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Are their no privacy concerns with the iCloud concept?
>
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