10/18/2011

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2722

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Waterproof case - anyone tried it? Life Proof From: Terri Kitchen
2.
Siri still needs some work From: mdoyle13
3a.
Re: sorry to ask From: Vishal Sheth
3b.
Re: sorry to ask From: Prokic Roger
3c.
Re: sorry to ask From: Vishal Sheth
3d.
Re: sorry to ask From: Susan Ferraglio
3e.
Re: sorry to ask From: Archie C Grapa
4a.
Help Getting Started with my 4S From: SFreilinger
4b.
Re: Help Getting Started with my 4S From: Prokic Roger
5a.
Re: Apple iPhone 4S review From: Prokic Roger
6a.
iPad won't sync to iCloud From: Jean Painter
6b.
Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud From: Jean Painter
6c.
Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud From: Bill Boulware
6d.
Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud From: Jean Painter
6e.
Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud From: Bill Boulware
7a.
Re: 3GS updated OS - Battery Life From: Susan Ferraglio
8.
iPhone 4S teething problems: Yellowgate, poor battery performance, s From: Bill Boulware
9.
out-of-the-box/DIY app building app From: Steve Schaefer
10a.
iOS5 - Newsstand From: BONNIE
10b.
Re: iOS5 - Newsstand From: Bill Boulware
10c.
Re: iOS5 - Newsstand From: Alice Saunders
11.
Instant Expert: Secrets & Features of iCloud (2011) From: Brent
12a.
Calendar doubled since updating to iOS5 From: Carol
12b.
Re: Calendar doubled since updating to iOS5 From: Bill Boulware
13.
Cloud and mail From: Carol

Messages

1a.

Re: Waterproof case - anyone tried it? Life Proof

Posted by: "Terri Kitchen" terrisk35@yahoo.com   terrisk35

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:43 am (PDT)



I ordered one and just got it, but I am still waiting on my pre-order 4s. Haven't got to try it yet. I still have a new Otterbox defender case also just in case I need it, also give me another good case to switch back and forth. I am hoping they (LifeProof) will have their case clip available soon. It is part of the reason why I thought of trying LifeProof. Their clip supposedly has a locking cam to keep the phone in the case from accidentally coming out of the clip. The ONLY thing I don't like about Otterbox. Their clips aren't very sturdy IMO. Here's hoping it works well!

Sent from my iPhone that I can't live without....

On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:

> I just checked out the LifeProof website and they have a gen 2 case so I hope you ordered that one.
>
> It looks like it actually provides more protection.
>
> I will be ordering one to try it again.
>
> Roger
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> Roger Prokic
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> On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:25 PM, inphasefive <skirbyiphone@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hmm, one of their "stories" was about a kid (glad he's not mine!) who tested it with his new iPhone 4 from about 6 feet dropping to concrete, no problem but his friends Otterbox failed.
> >
> > I ordered one today anyway. I'm heading to Florida this winter and want to keep the sand and surf away from my new 4S. I also get tired of struggling to get my Otterbox clad 4 out of my pocket and this one says it is not "sticky".
> >
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> > --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Prokic Roger <rprokic@...> wrote:
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> >> I tried that case at Best Buy and was very disappointed.
> >>
> >> It will not provide shock protection at all.
> >>
> >> But it does provide protection from liquids.. that's it!
> >>
> >> Roger
> >>
> >> On Oct 17, 2011, at 2:08 PM, willanz2 wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anyone in the group using a Life Proof case? - http://www.lifeproof.com/
> >>>
> >>> Just waiting for my 4S to arrive. It's going from the box right into the case.
> >>>
> >>> I previously used Otterbox for 3G and Ipod Touch. They are nice but after watching their promo video. It looks like this case may work better for me.
> >>>
> >>> http://youtu.be/C6EOO7Jrk6I
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> >>> Thanks,
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> >>> William
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> >>> Palm Beach Gardens, FL
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Siri still needs some work

Posted by: "mdoyle13" mdoyle13@yahoo.com   mdoyle13

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:43 am (PDT)



I bought windshield wipers for our cars the other day and got around to installing them tonight. At the store I'd looked up the sizes on the machine in the wiper area, but I forgot which sizes went with which car. So I thought I'd ask Siri. The first two times I asked what size "windshield wipers" the Focus took, she told me there are seven glass repair places nearby. When changing the question to what size "wiper blades" were needed, I was told three Ford dealers are nearby. I resorted to typing a web search to get my answer.

3a.

Re: sorry to ask

Posted by: "Vishal Sheth" vusheth@gmail.com   vusheth

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:43 am (PDT)



login into manage account, login. now click edit next to "Apple ID and
Primary Email Address". Put your new address. It's done. I changed mine like
this.

Vishal Sheth

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I just went to AppleID to see if I could change my apple ID from my gmail
> email address to my me.com address.
> And it won't let me. I also tried mac.com address and again it won't allow
> it.
> Why in the world doesn't apple let us get rid of our only reason to have a
> gmail account!!!
>
> It makes no sense at all.
>
> Roger
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:
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> > https://appleid.apple.com/
> >
> > Manage Your Account
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> > Edit Email
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> > Change to new address
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> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 09:22, Allan Aunkst <aaunkst@gmail.com> wrote:
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3b.

Re: sorry to ask

Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com   rprokic

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:57 am (PDT)



Vishal, I tried that. It specifically will NOT allow your primary apple id to be .me.com or .mac.com!

So stupid!!!

Roger

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Roger Prokic

-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-

On Oct 18, 2011, at 4:37 AM, Vishal Sheth <vusheth@gmail.com> wrote:

> login into manage account, login. now click edit next to "Apple ID and
> Primary Email Address". Put your new address. It's done. I changed mine like
> this.
>
> Vishal Sheth
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
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>> **
>>
>>
>> I just went to AppleID to see if I could change my apple ID from my gmail
>> email address to my me.com address.
>> And it won't let me. I also tried mac.com address and again it won't allow
>> it.
>> Why in the world doesn't apple let us get rid of our only reason to have a
>> gmail account!!!
>>
>> It makes no sense at all.
>>
>> Roger
>>
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>> On Oct 15, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:
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>>> https://appleid.apple.com/
>>>
>>> Manage Your Account
>>>
>>> Edit Email
>>>
>>> Change to new address
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 09:22, Allan Aunkst <aaunkst@gmail.com> wrote:
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3c.

Re: sorry to ask

Posted by: "Vishal Sheth" vusheth@gmail.com   vusheth

Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:19 am (PDT)



ya. I just checked with my me id, it does not allow to change primary id.
It's allowing email to change.

Vishal Sheth

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Vishal, I tried that. It specifically will NOT allow your primary apple id
> to be .me.com or .mac.com!
>
> So stupid!!!
>
> Roger
>
> ---
> Roger Prokic
>
> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2011, at 4:37 AM, Vishal Sheth <vusheth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > login into manage account, login. now click edit next to "Apple ID and
> > Primary Email Address". Put your new address. It's done. I changed mine
> like
> > this.
> >
> > Vishal Sheth
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> **
>
> >>
> >>
> >> I just went to AppleID to see if I could change my apple ID from my
> gmail
> >> email address to my me.com address.
> >> And it won't let me. I also tried mac.com address and again it won't
> allow
> >> it.
> >> Why in the world doesn't apple let us get rid of our only reason to have
> a
> >> gmail account!!!
> >>
> >> It makes no sense at all.
> >>
> >> Roger
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 15, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> >>
> >>> https://appleid.apple.com/
> >>>
> >>> Manage Your Account
> >>>
> >>> Edit Email
> >>>
> >>> Change to new address
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 09:22, Allan Aunkst <aaunkst@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
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3d.

Re: sorry to ask

Posted by: "Susan Ferraglio" bladessf@aol.com   bladessf2000

Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:13 am (PDT)



That is strange. You may have been the attentive one and saw an option to keep your apple ID for your mobile me account where I missed it. ;-)
Sue

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:33 PM, David Andreozzi <gabrielfan72@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The strange thing is I think I've only ever used my gmail apple ID when using mobile me, I never came across any @me address until I downloaded the iOS 5.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:52 PM, bladessf@aol.com wrote:
>
>> That is correct. I used my aol account. But when I signed up for mobile
>> me it created the me.com account. So the problems with merging occured
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/17/2011 8:41:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> gabrielfan72@yahoo.com writes:
>>
>> I don't think there was any restriction when I signed up with iTunes (on
>> my PC). I used my gmail account.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Alice Saunders <whiterabbit32@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Only having iTunes with a Mac, when I signed up for iTunes, they allowed
>> either a mac.com or an AIM email addy. You clicked the one you wanted to
>> use. I'm not sure how the rest of you were able to use any other email addy
>> unless Only PC's could.
>>>
>>> Alice
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:12 PM, bladessf@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think a lot of people that were using a PC, bought an ipod and
>> started
>>>> using itunes with their common most used email address (like me). When
>> I
>>>> got an iphone and wanted to use mobile me we had to create a me.com
>> address.
>>>> However now our purchases are through our most used email and the
>> cloud
>>>> can't seem to merge the me.com account to the itunes account. The
>> me.com
>>>> account can be a subaccount. I just wonder what happens when my mobile
>> me
>>>> account expires.
>>>> Sue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 10/17/2011 8:06:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> whiterabbit32@gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> They haven't? Either I'm missing something or I don't understand the
>>>> answer. My Apple ID is the same as my MobileMe addy and that is a
>> mac.com email
>>>> addy. I've always had it set up that way. When I signed into iCloud,
>> it
>>>> asked for my Apple ID, so that's what I gave them and have had no
>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> Alice
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apple has never allowed anyone to use me.com or mac.com for their
>> apple
>>>> id. I have no idea why.
>>>>> I hear Mr. Cook is now interested in fixing this as it's one of the
>>>> biggest complaints among Apple users.
>>>>> I am on a thread at Apple Support about this problem. I hope they
>> fix
>>>> this one day soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you contact support? I know that I have done this for a friend
>> when
>>>>>> they had a MobileMe account on a family plan and moved to a new
>> iCloud
>>>>>> account and kept the same address and it became their Apple ID and
>>>>>> transferred all of their purchases from an old work (companyx.com)
>>>> address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:42, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just went to AppleID to see if I could change my apple ID from
>> my
>>>> gmail
>>>>>>> email address to my me.com address.
>>>>>>> And it won't let me. I also tried mac.com address and again it
>> won't
>>>>>>> allow it.
>>>>>>> Why in the world doesn't apple let us get rid of our only reason
>> to
>>>> have a
>>>>>>> gmail account!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It makes no sense at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://appleid.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Manage Your Account
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Edit Email
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Change to new address
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Re: sorry to ask

Posted by: "Archie C Grapa" archiegrapa@yahoo.com   archiegrapa

Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:07 am (PDT)



Same here. Stupid indeed. And the idea that I just ditched my non-email address Apple ID for this whole iCloud thing is just frustrating and disappointing.

Archie

On Oct 18, 2011, at 17:55, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:

> Vishal, I tried that. It specifically will NOT allow your primary apple id to be .me.com or .mac.com!
>
> So stupid!!!
>
> Roger
>
> ---
> Roger Prokic
>
> -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
>
> On Oct 18, 2011, at 4:37 AM, Vishal Sheth <vusheth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > login into manage account, login. now click edit next to "Apple ID and
> > Primary Email Address". Put your new address. It's done. I changed mine like
> > this.
> >
> > Vishal Sheth
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Prokic Roger <rprokic@me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> I just went to AppleID to see if I could change my apple ID from my gmail
> >> email address to my me.com address.
> >> And it won't let me. I also tried mac.com address and again it won't allow
> >> it.
> >> Why in the world doesn't apple let us get rid of our only reason to have a
> >> gmail account!!!
> >>
> >> It makes no sense at all.
> >>
> >> Roger
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 15, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> >>
> >>> https://appleid.apple.com/
> >>>
> >>> Manage Your Account
> >>>
> >>> Edit Email
> >>>
> >>> Change to new address
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 09:22, Allan Aunkst <aaunkst@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
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4a.

Help Getting Started with my 4S

Posted by: "SFreilinger" SFreilinger@comcast.net   suzyseyephone

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:43 am (PDT)



Hey guys...I am out of the loop and school is kicking my butt so no time to search here or elsewhere....

I got my 4S and at the time did not let them transfer my data over from my 4. I hadn't backed up in ages and wasn't sure I wanted all the clutter, thought I might "start fresh". I am rethinking that now as I am busy and find myself carrying around my 4 and my 4S....I backed up my 4 just now....I have files and itunes on several systems for several different devices, basically I am mess, lol....and I don't understand icloud yet....what should I do now to get all my 4 data onto my 4S? I am sitting in front of a new computer and just downloaded the current itunes...none of the music or other files are on this system- they are on an uber slow netbook I don't want to use.....can icloud help me out here? or do I need to sunc my new phone with the netbook? if so, how do I make the switch to my new system......

I think I complicate my life, lol.......I have all the group mail saved and was looking forward to reading it all, but no time now...back to algebra...

bright blessings,
suzy

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Re: Help Getting Started with my 4S

Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com   rprokic

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:11 am (PDT)



Let your 4 back up. Then in iTunes preferences, devices, be sure you see your latest backup.

Next restore your 4S as new. Then it will allow you to restore from your 4 backup. Be sure to select the correct backup date/time.

Then wait until its done and you will have all of your data from your 4 on your 4S.

Then you can sell your 4 on eBay for $325 like I just did. :-)

Roger

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Roger Prokic

-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-

On Oct 18, 2011, at 12:35 AM, SFreilinger <SFreilinger@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hey guys...I am out of the loop and school is kicking my butt so no time to search here or elsewhere....
>
> I got my 4S and at the time did not let them transfer my data over from my 4. I hadn't backed up in ages and wasn't sure I wanted all the clutter, thought I might "start fresh". I am rethinking that now as I am busy and find myself carrying around my 4 and my 4S....I backed up my 4 just now....I have files and itunes on several systems for several different devices, basically I am mess, lol....and I don't understand icloud yet....what should I do now to get all my 4 data onto my 4S? I am sitting in front of a new computer and just downloaded the current itunes...none of the music or other files are on this system- they are on an uber slow netbook I don't want to use.....can icloud help me out here? or do I need to sunc my new phone with the netbook? if so, how do I make the switch to my new system......
>
> I think I complicate my life, lol.......I have all the group mail saved and was looking forward to reading it all, but no time now...back to algebra...
>
> bright blessings,
> suzy
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5a.

Re: Apple iPhone 4S review

Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com   rprokic

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:56 am (PDT)



Alvin
You can count on big brother having access to all of your Siri requests just like your google search and web browsing history and emails. :-)

Roger

---
Roger Prokic

-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-

On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:49 PM, Alvin Auerbach <Alvin.Auerbach@verizon.net> wrote:

> Bill, thanks for the informative review.
> Can you expand on something which you mentioned?
> The Siri & voice dictation conversions are (as you know) not done in the iPhone, but are done at a remote location. What's the security of all of this? The communications are probably encrypted, but who's listening to or watching the transcripts of what we say? With the government saying "Screw the Fourth Amendment" our benevolent Uncle Sam may be recording everything we say.
>
> Alvin
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
>
>> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~3/W_7JBgeCtQs/
>>
>> Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple iPhone 4S review
>> via BGR: The Three Biggest Letters In Tech by Jonathan S. Geller on
>> 10/17/11
>>
>> The iPhone 4S is Apple's top of the line smartphone, but is it just a
>> small upgrade over the iPhone 4 or something entirely different? It
>> looks the same, but does it act the same? New in the iPhone 4S is Siri,
>> Apple's virtual personal assistant, along with an upgraded camera,
>> twice the speed as far as processing and downloads are concerned, and a
>> redesigned antenna system that also supports global roaming for Verizon
>> and Sprint users. Are these new features enough to upgrade your iPhone
>> 4, though? What about iPhone 3GS owners or maybe even those of you who
>> are stuck using some other smartphone you bought because the
>> salesperson said it was just good as that iPhone your carrier didn't
>> offer at the time? Read on to find out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hardware / Design
>>
>>
>> The iPhone 4S combines some of the best materials with what is arguably
>> the finest smartphone design on the planet — you don't even need to see
>> or hold one to know that. Why? Because it's basically identical to the
>> original iPhone 4 that launched last year in June.
>>
>> While the iPhone 4S external hardware doesn't greatly differ from the
>> iPhone 4, there are some subtle and welcome changes. For starters, the
>> iPhone 4S incorporates the updated external antenna design found on the
>> Verizon iPhone 4. Instead of three breaks in the stainless steel middle
>> band that surrounds the handset, there are now four symmetrically
>> placed breaks.
>>
>> I like this layout better because while Apple's "Antennagate" issues
>> were exaggerated, it was still a problem at times if you happened to
>> hold the phone in a way that completely smothered the bottom-left
>> corner of the phone. After over a year of consciously and then
>> subconsciously avoiding that spot with my grip, this new antenna design
>> makes me feel a bit more at ease. In fact, I haven't noticed an issue
>> at all even when purposely applying the death grip across one, two or
>> even all four seams this time around.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are also a few physical hardware changes like a redesigned home
>> button (mostly from the inside) that should fix reliability issues.
>> While not touted by Apple, I can also tell that there has been a big
>> change with the microphone and speakerphone, but I'll go into that a
>> little bit later.
>>
>> The big upgrades with the iPhone 4S are internal. The iPhone 4 wasn't a
>> slow device by any means; in fact, it performed and felt faster than
>> most other smartphones that had much faster processors thanks to
>> Apple's complete control over the OS from top to bottom, including the
>> user interface. The iPhone 4S though, is much faster than the iPhone 4
>> with most tasks, and it offers up seven times the graphics performance
>> of the iPhone 4. Apps open instantly now, there's no lag whatsoever,
>> web browsing (which was already arguably better than it is on any other
>> mobile device) is even faster now, and gaming on the 4S most certainly
>> has a notable performance increase.
>>
>> This device, Apple touts, is the first smartphone to incorporate two
>> antennas that is able to switch between them even while on a phone
>> call, offering a superior phone calling experience. This is in addition
>> to being a true world phone for Verizon and newcomer Sprint, who for
>> the first time is offering the iPhone 4S and the previous-generation
>> iPhone 4. In short: Apple made the best smartphone, from a hardware and
>> design perspective, even better.
>> iOS 5
>>
>>
>> Apple released iOS 5 as a free upgrade for all iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4,
>> iPad, iPad 2, and third and fourth-generation iPod touch owners. It
>> also ships with the iPhone 4S. The new operating system brings some
>> much needed features and enhancements to the iOS platform to play catch
>> up with competitors, while also leaping beyond other platforms in other
>> areas.
>>
>> A major pain point in previous versions of iOS, for example, was the
>> notifications system. They were obtrusive, they we're obstructive, they
>> were so old school. Thankfully iOS 5 brings Notification Center, a new
>> pull-down drawer that features all of your notifications from each and
>> every app you'd like in addition the local weather and stocks courtesy
>> of Apple widgets. Instead of a pop-up making you either dismiss it or
>> read the message, new alerts simply drop down at the very top of your
>> screen, allowing you to continue going about your business while of
>> course letting you go into that specific alert if you'd like. It's a
>> system we've seen before, of course, but it's better in a lot of ways.
>>
>> Also new in iOS 5 is iMessage. Apple has finally introduced a messaging
>> service that not only eliminates the need for many text messaging
>> packages and saves you money, but also lets you communicate with any
>> other iOS 5 device including iPad and iPod touch devices without a
>> cellular connection. It's Apple's version of BlackBerry Messenger, and
>> while it doesn't offer the ability to request / deny buddies, or offer
>> advanced features like group calendar sharing, it's an excellent
>> alternative that seamlessly integrates into the Messages app. By
>> default, Apple will use iMessage, signified by a blue chat bubble as
>> opposed to a green one, allowing you to bypass your carrier's text
>> message service in order to use Apple's free one instead. Messages also
>> show if they were delivered or read by the recipient, and you can share
>> photos, videos, your location, contacts, and more over iMessage.
>>
>> Another big addition to the iOS experience that comes alongside iOS 5
>> is iCloud, which works hand in hand with the brand new iPhone 4S.
>>
>> With iCloud, you're able to stop worrying about syncing your content
>> and let Apple push it instantly to all of your computers and mobile
>> devices. For instance, you can start working on a document in iWork on
>> your computer, pick up your iPad when you're on the sofa and pick up
>> right where you left off, all without saving, emailing, uploading, or
>> anything. The same thing goes with your media and content. Purchase a
>> song from iTunes or download an app from the App Store and it's
>> immediately available on your other iOS devices and even in your iTunes
>> library on your computer. iCloud works across third party apps as well
>> so you can put down a game you're playing on your iPhone, pick up your
>> iPad and resume from the level or place you paused at.
>>
>> Another major iCloud feature is called Photo Stream. After testing this
>> feature for the last few months, I'm completely in love with it. If you
>> have more than one computer, it used to be difficult to manage an iOS
>> device as data including photos could only be synced with one computer.
>> With Photo Stream, Apple automatically pushes your photos to all of
>> your computers and other iOS devices, and it stores up to 1,000 photos
>> for 30 days. Just grab the photos you want, and drag them to an album
>> on any computer or even make one right from the iPhone 4S itself, and
>> you don't ever have to worry about syncing your photos again.
>>
>> Other notable iOS 5 additions include the ability to sync your device
>> to iTunes over Wi-Fi instead of plugging it in, wireless nightly
>> backups to iCloud, and important enhancements to the Mail app like the
>> ability to flag your emails, search all content, mark all as read, and
>> more. Lastly, iOS 5 enables you to use your smartphone or device
>> completely PC-free. This means you don't need to plug it into a
>> computer to set it up — in fact, you don't have to use a computer for
>> anything if you don't want. You can make email boxes on the fly, make
>> photo albums, and even set up and manage your Apple wireless network
>> right from your iOS device.
>>
>> All in all, iOS 5 brings over 200 new features and changes to the iOS
>> platform and they add up to a dramatic improvement over a user
>> experience that was already phenomenal.
>> Siri
>>
>>
>> There are a few words I can think of that can accurately describe Siri:
>> game-changing, mind-blowing, revolutionary, empowering. Is Siri really
>> that big a deal? Yes, and here's why:
>>
>> In it's current iteration as a sassy voice-driven personal assistant,
>> Siri is incredible. It's by far the best artificial intelligence
>> solution that's ever been offered to consumers (and I'm sure even to
>> most non-consumers as well). Siri not only can respond to ordinary
>> tasks but it also has the ability to extend beyond the device and pull
>> in information from many sources of information like Wolfram Alpha,
>> Yelp, Wikipedia, and more.
>>
>> There are many people who won't understand the fawning over Siri, and
>> following the Apple event earlier this month, a part of me was
>> initially skeptical of Siri's usefulness beyond the initial novelty
>> when I would play around with it and show it off to friends and family.
>> Then I got in my car and drove somewhere. Texting and driving is
>> terrible, but let's be honest, most of us glance at our phones or worse
>> when we're in the car. Siri enabled me to get all of my new text
>> messages and emails, reply to my text messages, check my calendar, move
>> an appointment, create an appointment including inviting someone to the
>> meeting, check the weather, play a specific song, find where a specific
>> friend was in the world (using Apple's Find My Friends app), and make a
>> few phone calls. I didn't look at my phone once. Now that's a game
>> changer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Siri allows you to have a normal conversation with your phone, and it
>> actually is a tad bit… unsettling at first. Asking your phone to move
>> your 1:00 p.m. calendar appointment to 3:00 p.m., call your mother
>> back, text your friend and tell him that the movie he recommended you
>> see was horrendous, how much 1912 times 451 is, how do I get home,
>> remind me to grab my sunglasses when I leave the office, and how the
>> markets are doing is just ridiculous. I've asked Siri her age, what her
>> favorite color is, where she is from, and other personal questions, and
>> each time there's a personal response, most of the time with slight
>> snark.
>>
>> Now, Siri does have a few hiccups. It relies on the network, so if
>> you're using something like Optimum's Wi-Fi hotspots when you're out
>> and about, this can cause a little bit of an issue as you switch on and
>> off of Wi-Fi access points since Siri won't be able to connect to the
>> server when you're disconnecting. And the few times you're on an EDGE
>> or 1x network, Siri can take a while instead of coming back with a
>> response almost instantly. There are also some times when Siri will
>> mess up, but I have found that even if you don't say a few words
>> clearly enough, or Siri doesn't detect them clearly enough, that most
>> of the time the response will still turn out alright. When Siri
>> misunderstands a word, you can also edit it with a simple tap to ensure
>> an accurate response. Then of course there are the comical times Siri
>> doesn't get what you're saying at all, but those luckily don't happen
>> too much.
>>
>>
>>
>> In addition to Siri, the personal assistant that lives on your iPhone
>> 4S, you're also able to dictate text in any text field on the iPhone
>> using the new microphone button on the virtual keyboard. This is very
>> similar to a feature Android has had for years. Fortunately, this works
>> way, way better.
>>
>> It was rumored that Nuance is powering this feature (and parts of
>> Siri), and I'd believe it as this performs just like the Dragon
>> Dictation iPhone app, but being built-in changes everything. Even with
>> background noise, Siri and voice dictation normally worked flawlessly
>> thanks to the iPhone's second microphone for noise cancellation. Again,
>> while driving, I didn't have to check my phone once and I could carry
>> on a perfectly accurate text conversation with someone. It's
>> incredible. When you think that Apple has labeled this as a beta, and
>> that the system will improve over time, this is going to be the next
>> big revolution as far as computer and device input is concerned. We're
>> actually starting to live in a world where you can speak naturally to
>> your device and it won't only understand you, but it will give you a
>> little bit of attitude as well. Imagine something like this in
>> different aspects of technology… what about in your TV? Instead of
>> fumbling for the remote and navigating through those terrible,
>> terrible, cable box interfaces, just tell your TV to tune to ESPN, or
>> record a specific show at a certain time, and it's done. Think about
>> how bad car navigation and voice control is, even in the best
>> automobiles. This is the start of the next revolution in terms of
>> interacting with a computer, just as a mouse was, just as touch was.
>>
>> Siri works internationally with five languages and a few localizations,
>> though there are some features that are limited to the U.S. for now.
>> Apple will expand Siri to more regions and languages in 2012.
>> Camera / Video capture
>>
>>
>> The camera on the iPhone 4S is the best camera I have ever used on a
>> mobile device.
>>
>> I remember years ago buying a Sharp GX22 and then GX30 camera phone and
>> being impressed at the quality of photos that the phones could take.
>> The first was a VGA camera phone, but it had a better lens than any
>> other phone on the market, and the second featured a 1-megapixel
>> camera. It was the first time I realized that megapixels weren't the
>> only thing that mattered as far as photos were concerned.
>>
>> That's not to say 8-megapixels isn't impressive on a smartphone, but
>> it's what those 8-megapixels can serve up that matters, and on the
>> iPhone 4S, they are the best photos I have seen taken on a non-camera.
>> In fact, the camera is good enough to where I have no longer need to
>> bring an actual camera anywhere I go outside of a dSLR for specific
>> purposes. With face detection (it supports up to 10 people in the same
>> photo) exposure is properly set, with the ability to use the volume up
>> button as a shutter button, you no longer have to go hunting around for
>> the on-screen shutter button, and with new features like grid lines
>> that help you compose a shot even better, the camera on the iPhone 4S
>> is a winner.
>>
>> That's not even considering how amazing the iPhone 4s is in low-light
>> situations, or how with the new camera button on the lock screen
>> combined with the speed of the 4S and optics, you can take a photo in
>> under 4 seconds from getting your phone out of your pocket — you won't
>> ever miss a shot again. Photos can now be taken in rapid succession,
>> and with the ability to edit photos right on the device itself,
>> including red eye removal, cropping, and an auto-enhance feature, the
>> iPhone 4S offers the most compelling camera package on any smartphone
>> or mobile device.
>>
>> As far as the video camera goes on the iPhone 4S, it's almost equally
>> as impressive. Finally you're able to capture full 1080p HD video right
>> from your iPhone, and in addition to crystal clear, full-frame 1080p
>> video, the iPhone 4S offers up something even better: brilliantly,
>> using the gyro built into the device (it can sense the device's
>> orientation and position on three different axes), video captured with
>> the iPhone 4S is automatically stabilized as it's taken, eliminating
>> almost all shakes and jagged video. Additionally, using the same noise
>> cancellation techniques that the phone uses for voice calling and for
>> interacting with Siri, audio taken with videos is almost always crisp
>> and clear.
>> Phone / Speaker
>>
>>
>> Apple's iPhones have not ever been excellent phones for voice calling.
>> Blame the networks, blame the radios or blame whatever else you want —
>> voice calls were almost never a good experience. I'm extremely happy
>> that the iPhone 4S finally starts to break that mold.
>>
>> In terms of radio performance, speed and call quality, I am incredibly
>> impressed. I have more service in more places, fewer dropped calls
>> (just about on par with a phone like a BlackBerry 9700, which runs very
>> well on AT&T's network) and better call quality. The reason for the
>> change? Well, Apple's new antenna system is surely a part of it as is
>> the updated software on the device, but I think we have to give some
>> credit to the Qualcomm radio that Apple has finally migrated to.
>> Qualcomm is known for making class-topping chips, and this is a welcome
>> change.
>>
>> Finally, the speakerphone on the iPhone 4S improves on an already solid
>> experience. It's not only louder than it was on previous models, but
>> it's clearer as well, offering call and music audio that's not
>> distorted or choppy. This improvement most likely has to do with Siri
>> in order to ensure the experience with Apple's new personal assistant
>> is top-notch and crystal clear, but the improvements trickle down into
>> other areas of the device as well.
>> Battery
>>
>>
>> Apple notes that battery life on the iPhone 4S should be comparable to
>> the iPhone 4 even though the smartphone features a dual-core processor
>> with two times the speed and seven times the graphics performance over
>> the previous model. The company also notes that the iPhone 4S will
>> perform better in some key areas, like delivering an extra hour of talk
>> time over 3G than its predecessor. It comes at the cost of one less
>> hour of internet usage over Wi-Fi (10% less), and 33% less standby
>> time. At first these sound like big changes, especially in standby
>> time, but over the last few days I didn't notice much of a difference
>> in battery performance compared to the iPhone 4.
>> Conclusion
>>
>>
>> Apple didn't introduce a brand new iPhone with a radical new case
>> design, larger display, 4G, or the ability to make you a cup of
>> espresso. What Apple did do is drastically improve upon the company's
>> most successful smartphone ever — and the most popular smartphone in
>> the world — the iPhone 4.
>>
>> The iPhone 4S is better in every way possible, including being up to
>> two times faster as far as regular use is concerned. It also features
>> the best camera and video camera on a smartphone ever, drastically
>> improved voice calling performance, global support, downloads up to
>> twice as fast, and Siri, a game-changing virtual personal assistant
>> that is the start of a shift in how we interact with computers and
>> mobile devices.
>>
>> The iPhone 4S comes at a time when most iPhone 3GS users are coming up
>> for their wireless service renewal. The iPhone 4S isn't just impressive
>> to an iPhone 3GS owner, it blows the doors off almost any Android
>> alternative (I'd say all, but then I'd fear for my survival), and if
>> you're big on photography, an on-the-go person who might need an extra
>> hand from your phone, or even require the ability to use your phone
>> internationally if you're on Verizon or Sprint, the iPhone 4S is a
>> worthy upgrade from any smartphone. Whether it's an iPhone 3GS or
>> iPhone 4, a feature phone or a BlackBerry, this is the best phone Apple
>> has ever made, and there isn't another company in the world that could
>> deliver all of these features in such a beautifully designed, tightly
>> integrated, and enjoyable packages.
>>
>> With the iPhone 4S starting at $199 from each of the three largest
>> carriers in the U.S. (finally), Apple is also making the original
>> iPhone 4 available at only $99 for the 8GB model. Make no mistake, this
>> is the most formidable smartphone tag team that exists on the planet,
>> and while you can't go wrong with either device, the iPhone 4S really
>> pushes what we can do with mobile devices even further into the future.
>>
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6a.

iPad won't sync to iCloud

Posted by: "Jean Painter" Jean@JeanPainter.com   crossvillerealtor

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am (PDT)



I followed instructions and did the initial sync for calendar and contacts
via iTunes with the iPad tethered to the laptop.

That put the Outlook contacts and calendar that were on the laptop, onto
both iCloud and the iPad.

However, if I make a change in Outlook (either calendar or contacts) it does
not sync automatically to iCloud.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jean painter

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6b.

Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud

Posted by: "Jean Painter" Jean@JeanPainter.com   crossvillerealtor

Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:19 am (PDT)



Perhaps I've misunderstood?

I've further observed that if I make an entry on the iPad calendar, it shows up on iCloud, but it doesn't show up in Outlook.

So perhaps the automatic sync is only between all Apple devices? That's strange that I can sync fine via a USB connection from Outlook to the iPad but not using a cloud connection.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jean Painter
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:18 AM
Subject: [apple-iphone] iPad won't sync to iCloud

I followed instructions and did the initial sync for calendar and contacts
via iTunes with the iPad tethered to the laptop.

That put the Outlook contacts and calendar that were on the laptop, onto
both iCloud and the iPad.

However, if I make a change in Outlook (either calendar or contacts) it does
not sync automatically to iCloud.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jean painter

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6c.

Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:23 am (PDT)



There is an iCloud Control Panel item for Windows Vista & Windows 7 (not XP
or older) that has to be installed in order to sync to Outlook, Internet
Explorer, Address Book, etc.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 07:05, Jean Painter <Jean@jeanpainter.com> wrote:

> Perhaps I've misunderstood?
>
> I've further observed that if I make an entry on the iPad calendar, it
> shows up on iCloud, but it doesn't show up in Outlook.
>
> So perhaps the automatic sync is only between all Apple devices? That's
> strange that I can sync fine via a USB connection from Outlook to the iPad
> but not using a cloud connection.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean Painter
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:18 AM
> Subject: [apple-iphone] iPad won't sync to iCloud
>
>
>
> I followed instructions and did the initial sync for calendar and contacts
> via iTunes with the iPad tethered to the laptop.
>
> That put the Outlook contacts and calendar that were on the laptop, onto
> both iCloud and the iPad.
>
> However, if I make a change in Outlook (either calendar or contacts) it
> does
> not sync automatically to iCloud.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jean painter
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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6d.

Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud

Posted by: "Jean Painter" Jean@JeanPainter.com   crossvillerealtor

Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:28 am (PDT)



Thanks,

I just found that and installed it. After I ran it, all my contacts in Outlook are GONE!

They are still on the iPad and on iCloud.

How do I get them back onto Outlook?

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boulware
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iPad won't sync to iCloud

There is an iCloud Control Panel item for Windows Vista & Windows 7 (not XP
or older) that has to be installed in order to sync to Outlook, Internet
Explorer, Address Book, etc.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 07:05, Jean Painter <Jean@jeanpainter.com> wrote:

> Perhaps I've misunderstood?
>
> I've further observed that if I make an entry on the iPad calendar, it
> shows up on iCloud, but it doesn't show up in Outlook.
>
> So perhaps the automatic sync is only between all Apple devices? That's
> strange that I can sync fine via a USB connection from Outlook to the iPad
> but not using a cloud connection.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean Painter
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:18 AM
> Subject: [apple-iphone] iPad won't sync to iCloud
>
>
>
> I followed instructions and did the initial sync for calendar and contacts
> via iTunes with the iPad tethered to the laptop.
>
> That put the Outlook contacts and calendar that were on the laptop, onto
> both iCloud and the iPad.
>
> However, if I make a change in Outlook (either calendar or contacts) it
> does
> not sync automatically to iCloud.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jean painter
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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6e.

Re: iPad won't sync to iCloud

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:32 am (PDT)



That I couldn't tell you, I haven't used Outlook in 10 years and haven't
used iCloud for Windows at all...

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 07:26, Jean Painter <Jean@jeanpainter.com> wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> I just found that and installed it. After I ran it, all my contacts in
> Outlook are GONE!
>
> They are still on the iPad and on iCloud.
>
> How do I get them back onto Outlook?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Boulware
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] iPad won't sync to iCloud
>
>
>
> There is an iCloud Control Panel item for Windows Vista & Windows 7 (not
> XP
> or older) that has to be installed in order to sync to Outlook, Internet
> Explorer, Address Book, etc.
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 07:05, Jean Painter <Jean@jeanpainter.com> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps I've misunderstood?
> >
> > I've further observed that if I make an entry on the iPad calendar, it
> > shows up on iCloud, but it doesn't show up in Outlook.
> >
> > So perhaps the automatic sync is only between all Apple devices? That's
> > strange that I can sync fine via a USB connection from Outlook to the
> iPad
> > but not using a cloud connection.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jean Painter
> > To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:18 AM
> > Subject: [apple-iphone] iPad won't sync to iCloud
> >
> >
> >
> > I followed instructions and did the initial sync for calendar and
> contacts
> > via iTunes with the iPad tethered to the laptop.
> >
> > That put the Outlook contacts and calendar that were on the laptop, onto
> > both iCloud and the iPad.
> >
> > However, if I make a change in Outlook (either calendar or contacts) it
> > does
> > not sync automatically to iCloud.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jean painter
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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7a.

Re: 3GS updated OS - Battery Life

Posted by: "Susan Ferraglio" bladessf@aol.com   bladessf2000

Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:49 am (PDT)



Hi Alice - for some reason Ping is in there!! It is not just for parental things. You can set a restriction so that locations and account settings cannot be tinkered with without a Passcode. Good if your phone is stolen. Prevents thief from turning off location services effectively crippling find my phone.
Just remember the code and remember that un changeable items will be grey and inaccessible until you disable restrictions.
HTH
Sue

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Alice Saunders <whiterabbit32@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have restriction enabled. Isn't restrictions for the parental stuff?
>
> Alice
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Susan Ferraglio <bladessf@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim - settings/general/ restrictions. Enable restrictions then you should see ping under iTunes I think.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Jim Inman <jiminmanjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sue - Thank you for the prompt reply.
>>>
>>> I checked in Settings for my Location Services, and most were turned on... I left on just a few - weather, camera, a couple others. I don't use Bluetooth, but I'm not sure if there is an "off" for that.
>>>
>>> Where do I turn "Ping" off? I thought that was part of Location Services.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Susan Ferraglio <bladessf@aol.com>
>>> To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com" <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:00 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] 3GS updated OS - Battery Life
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jim - there have been complaints even with the new phone. They suggest turning off Ping, location services, Bluetooth etc - just as suggested in years past for battery Life. I just noticed ping was enabled on my 4s so I just turned it off. Will see if it helps. The most drastic suggestion was a complete restore :-0
>>> Hth
>>> Sue
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:55 AM, "jiminmanjr" <jiminmanjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all... I have a 3GS, works great, no problems. Over the weekend I upgraded to the new OS (I believe it's iOS5, for the "technical" name). I have all the features - iCloud, the double-tap camera from Home, etc. Everything seems to be in good order.
>>>>
>>>> However, I've noticed the battery life has suddenly changed. For example, yesterday I was out running errands, and barely using the phone for anything. In less than 90 minutes it dropped from mid-70% to under 40% battery. I've had to charge the phone each day mid-day, even with my average usage.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if iCloud has something to do with it. I am looking for a little guidance.
>>>>
>>>> I've followed many of the posts here about the OS, but not much for the 4S (since I don't have the newest phone). So, maybe this was discussed, and I missed it...
>>>>
>>>> I've done the obvious stuff, btw - double-tap and closed all open apps, a couple hard resets, etc. but the problem still continues.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
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iPhone 4S teething problems: Yellowgate, poor battery performance, s

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:21 am (PDT)



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/K6Z3DMOGegQ/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: iPhone 4S teething
problems: Yellowgate, poor battery performance, silly Siri stuff,
iCloud, Apple IDs (and lots more) via 9to5Mac by Christian Zibreg on
10/18/11


This is your Yellowgate. It looks worse from an angle (below the fold).
Hopefully, the tint should go away as glue from the factory dries.
Image credit: chr0m

Look, fringe issues are common when four million devices hit at once.
Hence, this compilation of inevitable teething problems with Apple's
new baby. First up, the display. A bunch of people are writing in a
thread on Apple's Discussion Forums about washed out colors and
yellowish tint on the iPhone 4S's display. This is especially
noticeable with lots of whites, such as when browsing the web or
reading your email. A forum user Snowglider reports:

Got a new iPhone 4S this morning, and when I put it next to my old
iPhone 4 I discovered the screen was much 'nicer' on the old iPhone.
When I say nicer, its kind of got a really yellow tint to the screen on
the 4S, whites are where you notice it the most for example the email
looks far nicer on the iPhone 4 screen. All other colours look quite
washed out. Anyone else got this problem?

Not to worry, factory workers did not pee on your screen. It's a common
issue with the devices that have literally just been produced as the
glue from the factory which keeps the screen in place dries. Watchful
readers could note similar problems with early iPad 2 and iPhone 3G
units. Next up, some folks are complaining about their brand spanking
new iPhone 4S's battery draining out in just a couple of hours on
standby.

Now, Apple rates the battery inside the iPhone 4S as having up to 200
hours of standby, a hundred less than the previous model. This
surprised some fans, especially considering the iPhone 4S's
extra .05W/hrs battery and an hour-long talk time increase. The most
logical explanation for a thirty percent reduction in standby time is
Siri or additional background processes with notifications. Judging by
this thread on Apple's support forums, the battery issue may be
affecting a tiny portion of early adopters.



Moreover, iLounge found out in their iPhone 4S mega-review that the
device also has worse battery life for 3G data and audio/video
playback/recording. It fared better in their cellular calling tests and
on par with the iPhone 4 for WiFi and FaceTime. If it's any
consolation, Apple offers these handy tips on improving battery life on
your iPhone, warning:

Be sure to go through at least one charge cycle per month (charging the
battery to 100% and then completely running it down).

Then there are the sporadic issues, including the high-pitched noise
when connecting your iPhone 4S to a stereo via the headphones jack,
microphone issues, frozen screen, frequent lockups, random
unresponsiveness, getting stuck while syncing, overheating, camera lens
rattle sound and more. Many of those can be attributed to a human
factor or inapt users who, for example, complain about Siri missing on
their device whereas the feature has to be manually turned on in
Settings > General > Siri.

Moving on to Siri. As you know, Apple's digital assistant is being
billed as the killer feature of the iPhone 4S. Indeed, it's like having
a secretary of your own – in your pocket. Siri has inspired a site
solely dedicated to the things Siri says. Heck, Jonathan Mann even sang
a duet with Siri. Some answers Siri gives are amusing, such as
responding to marriage questions with "My End User License Agreement
does not cover marriage". People are more amused by the silly stuff,
like when you say "call me an ambulance" and she responds by
acknowledging "From now on, I'll call you 'an ambulance'". More on Siri
and other tidbits below the fold.


Siri, fuzzy by design, taps a huge phrases database to come up with
amusing replies.



Siri is clever enough to understand context and keep the conversation
flowing naturally. Sometimes, however, this very feat can cause
problems if you suddenly change the topic of conversation. Luckily,
there's a remedy for that, just tell Siri to "start over". Also
important, Siri does not work in Airplane mode. A network connection is
needed because Siri talks to the Apple cloud which takes care of the
artificial intelligence algorithms and reasoning engine. The cloud also
offloads web-based queries from the phone for faster information
retrieval. Due to this cloud-device integration, enthusiasts are
unlikely to port Siri fully to other iOS devices, even though developer
Steven Troughton-Smith has managed to get the user interface running on
the iPhone 4. Apple notes in its Siri FAQ that additional languages
will be supported in 2012, including Japanese, Chinese, Korean,
Italian, and Spanish. For now, Siri understands English in the U.S.,
U.K. and Australia, plus French and German.


The yellow tinting on the iPhone 4S looks worse at an angle.

Thanks to the iCloud's vast computing power and data Siri collects each
time you ask her a question, your personal secretary gets better over
time. Apple explains:

The more you use Siri, the better it will understand you. It does this
by learning about your accent and other characteristics of your voice.
Siri uses voice recognition algorithms to categorize your voice into
one of the dialects or accents it understands. As more people use Siri
and it's exposed to more variations of a language, its overall
recognition of dialects and accents will continue to improve, and Siri
will work even better.

Siri also learns about the world you live in by tapping information
from your contacts, music library, calendars and reminders, as
explained by Ed Wrenbeck, former lead developer of Siri:

For Siri to be really effective, it has to learn a great deal about the
user. If it knows where you work and where you live and what kind of
places you like to go, it can really start to tailor itself as it
becomes an expert on you. This requires a great deal of trust in the
institution collecting this data. Siri didn't have this, but Apple has
earned a very high level of trust from its customers.

On the cloud front, Apple created a mess by introducing iCloud accounts
and the ability to migrate MobileMe accounts to iCloud. A lot of people
complain about Apple ID issues in regards to iCloud, but Apple is
unlikely to enable merging of multiple IDs into one. The company
clarified in a support article:


Can I merge multiple Apple IDs into one?
You cannot merge two or more Apple IDs into a single one. You can,
however, use one Apple ID for iCloud services and another Apple ID for
store purchases (including iTunes in the Cloud and iTunes Match). See
"Using one Apple ID for iCloud and a different Apple ID for Store
Purchases" above for details.

You can check the iCloud status on this web page.

On a final note, while Siri is very effective at running errands, we
shouldn't forget it's a work in progress and beta product. Summing up,
Daring Fireball's John Gruber, one of the toughest critics out there,
highlighted in his iPhone 4S review paradigm shift Siri brings to the
table:

It's also sort of the antithesis of everything prior in iOS. iOS is
explicit and visual. Everything you can do in iOS is something you can
see and touch on screen. The limits are visible and obvious. Siri, on
the other hand, feels limitless. It's fuzzy, and fuzzy on purpose.
There's no way to tell what will work and what won't. You must explore.
I found it extremely fun to explore Siri — primarily because so many of
the things I tried actually worked. It's a completely different
interface for interacting with your iPhone. You're not driving or
commanding the existing iPhone interface with commands. There is no
syntax to memorize. You're just, well, talking to your iPhone.







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9.

out-of-the-box/DIY app building app

Posted by: "Steve Schaefer" sschaefer50@gmail.com   steven0356

Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:14 am (PDT)



Can anyone recommend an out-of-the-box/DIY app building app other then
BuildAnApp, SwebApps and AppBreeder. I am just starting to look around and
do some research.

If you have used any of the for mentioned apps can you give me a review?

Thanks

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10a.

iOS5 - Newsstand

Posted by: "BONNIE" COOOLKITTY@AOL.COM   cooolkitty

Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:50 am (PDT)



I noticed that my NY Times app was automatically moved into the newsstand app when upgrading to iOS5. It won't let me move it out and I can't seem to transfer any of my other apps, like LA Times into it. Even if I delete the LA Times and re-download it from the newsstand app's link to the app store, it won't work. Can anyone help with this? I like to have all my news apps in one place. Thank you.

10b.

Re: iOS5 - Newsstand

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:53 am (PDT)



The developer has to update the App to use the Newstand API - Apple will
require all 'news' outlets, magazines, newspapers, etc to use it eventually
and they are approving them quickly. I have had 10-20 apps updated each day
in the 5-6 days...

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 14:26, BONNIE <COOOLKITTY@aol.com> wrote:

> I noticed that my NY Times app was automatically moved into the newsstand
> app when upgrading to iOS5. It won't let me move it out and I can't seem to
> transfer any of my other apps, like LA Times into it. Even if I delete the
> LA Times and re-download it from the newsstand app's link to the app store,
> it won't work. Can anyone help with this? I like to have all my news apps
> in one place. Thank you.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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10c.

Re: iOS5 - Newsstand

Posted by: "Alice Saunders" whiterabbit32@gmail.com   lwr32

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:28 pm (PDT)



Sounds like NYTimes became part of Newsstand instead of its own app and your other magazine apps stayed their own apps.

Alice

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:26 AM, "BONNIE" <COOOLKITTY@AOL.COM> wrote:

> I noticed that my NY Times app was automatically moved into the newsstand app when upgrading to iOS5. It won't let me move it out and I can't seem to transfer any of my other apps, like LA Times into it. Even if I delete the LA Times and re-download it from the newsstand app's link to the app store, it won't work. Can anyone help with this? I like to have all my news apps in one place. Thank you.
>
>

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11.

Instant Expert: Secrets & Features of iCloud (2011)

Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com   flapdoodle44

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:55 pm (PDT)

12a.

Calendar doubled since updating to iOS5

Posted by: "Carol" floridabouvs@gmail.com   floridabouvs

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:26 pm (PDT)



I updated my 4 to iOS 5 a week ago without incident. Today, I sync'd it again to my computer so that I could update my iPad2. Now my iPhone calendar items are doubled -- the original entry and a 2nd that says "busy" after it. Not sure what I will find on the ipad once it finishes updating.
Any ideas as to what happened and how can I fix it?
Is it a cloud thing?
Thanks.
Carol

12b.

Re: Calendar doubled since updating to iOS5

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:28 pm (PDT)



I would guess that you are syncing calendar items in iTunes and via iCloud.
Turn one off or turn both off to delete all events and turn the one you want
back on.

I have duplicated, tripled and even quadrupled my contacts before by turning
on the wrong syncing options....

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 17:19, Carol <floridabouvs@gmail.com> wrote:

> I updated my 4 to iOS 5 a week ago without incident. Today, I sync'd it
> again to my computer so that I could update my iPad2. Now my iPhone calendar
> items are doubled -- the original entry and a 2nd that says "busy" after it.
> Not sure what I will find on the ipad once it finishes updating.
> Any ideas as to what happened and how can I fix it?
> Is it a cloud thing?
> Thanks.
> Carol
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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13.

Cloud and mail

Posted by: "Carol" floridabouvs@gmail.com   floridabouvs

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:27 pm (PDT)



Also, the cloud created a .me account for mail. Is that just an extra account? Will it have any effect on my Google and Yahoo email?
Thanks lots.
Carol

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