Messages In This Digest (10 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Jim Saklad
- 1b.
- Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Harry Flaxman
- 1c.
- Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Harry Flaxman
- 1d.
- Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Josephine Bacon
- 1e.
- Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Harry Flaxman
- 2.1.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Denver Dan
- 2.2.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Dane Robison
- 2.3.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Otto Nikolaus
- 2.4.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Terry Pogue
- 3.
- FaceTime on iPhone 4s? From: Jurgen Richter
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:58 pm (PDT)
> It's a shame,really. I have not gotten to the part of the book yet, however, on a CNET podcast yesterday, I found out that Steve basically took credit for Jonathan Ive's design work. Ive was apparently upset about this the whole time he worked in the capacity of chief designer.
> Dismaying to say the least.
> Harry
1. Name one other design engineer or VP of design for a major (or minor) hardware company whose name is a world-wide byword for leading-edge/world-class design.
2. Go here and watch Jonathan Ive's excellent 8-minute tribute to Steve Jobs.
<http://macdailynews.com/2011/ >10/26/jonathan- ives-excellent- 8-minute- tribute-to- steve-jobs- with-video/
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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:36 pm (PDT)
On 10/28/2011 5:58 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> 1. Name one other design engineer or VP of design for a major (or minor) hardware company whose name is a world-wide byword for leading-edge/world-class design.
>
> 2. Go here and watch Jonathan Ive's excellent 8-minute tribute to Steve Jobs.
> <http://macdailynews.com/2011/ >10/26/jonathan- ives-excellent- 8-minute- tribute-to- steve-jobs- with-video/
I agree with you wholeheartedly re the worldwide renown. Jonathan has
always captivated my attention by his design talents as well as his
demeanor.
I will watch the video as soon as I get a chance. I'm configuring Linux
Mint right now and don't want to tie the processor up with too much.
Harry
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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:38 pm (PDT)
On 10/28/2011 5:58 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> It's a shame,really. I have not gotten to the part of the book yet, however, on a CNET podcast yesterday, I found out that Steve basically took credit for Jonathan Ive's design work. Ive was apparently upset about this the whole time he worked in the capacity of chief designer.
>> > Dismaying to say the least.
>> > Harry
> 1. Name one other design engineer or VP of design for a major (or minor) hardware company whose name is a world-wide byword for leading-edge/world-class design.
>
> 2. Go here and watch Jonathan Ive's excellent 8-minute tribute to Steve Jobs.
> <http://macdailynews.com/2011/ >10/26/jonathan- ives-excellent- 8-minute- tribute-to- steve-jobs- with-video/
You know Jim, I'm going to send that link to the appropriate CNET
podcast host, The Buzz Report, Molly something. She was extremely
derogatory about Steve and Jonny. I watched a few of his videos there,
following the tribute to SJ, and it tells alot about the man.
Harry
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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs
Posted by: "Josephine Bacon" bacon@langservice.com baconandeggs_2001
Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:47 am (PDT)
Mother Teresa was a prize bitch! She has been exposed numerous times,
her charity in India was a hellhole and her intolerance of other
people, especially her anti-abortion work, makes her an anathema.
Saint? She was a complete fraud!
Josephine Bacon
Tamr Translations
197 Kings Cross Road
London WC1X 9DB
Tel: 020 7 278 9490
On 28 Oct 2011, at 18:11, DaveC wrote:
> >But, btw, we ALL have a dark side.
> >doug
>
> Mother Teresa?
>
> All generalizations are inaccurate and are the foundation of
> prejudice.
> Dave
>
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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:05 am (PDT)
On 10/28/2011 07:36 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> On 10/28/2011 5:58 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>> > 1. Name one other design engineer or VP of design for a major (or minor) hardware company whose name is a world-wide byword for leading-edge/world-class design.
>> >
>> > 2. Go here and watch Jonathan Ive's excellent 8-minute tribute to Steve Jobs.
>> > <http://macdailynews.com/2011/ >10/26/jonathan- ives-excellent- 8-minute- tribute-to- steve-jobs- with-video/
> I agree with you wholeheartedly re the worldwide renown. Jonathan has
> always captivated my attention by his design talents as well as his
> demeanor.
>
> I will watch the video as soon as I get a chance. I'm configuring Linux
> Mint right now and don't want to tie the processor up with too much.
I just left the hostess of the podcast, The Buzz Report, Molly Wood, a
detailed message of my opinion of her 'cracks' about Jonathan Ive and
Steve Jobs, citing several sources and showing proof of the
sensationalism behind her comments.
I'm hoping she got the message, although, I feel as if I've been flamed
and I took the bait.
Oh well.
Harry
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:24 pm (PDT)
Howdy.
The "Comments" feature has been a part of Macintosh for 20 or more
years. It's found in the Get Info dialog box.
Select an icon and then press Command i. Or, use the Get Info command
on the File menu in Finder for the same thing.
With the advent of Spotlight and indexing files for content, "Comments"
now appears as "Spotlight Comments" in Get info.
As a piece of Mac history, back in the days of Mac OS 6, 7, and 8, the
Get Info Comments were present. But, there was also something called
"Rebuild the Desktop File." The Desktop File was an invisible file
that kept track of a lot of things. Occasionally you had to restart
and press a key combo to rebuild and clean out this file to prevent odd
things happening. Back then the "Rebuild Desktop" would erase the
Comments text items in files so there used to be a number of utilities
to make it possible to maintain the Comments.
Today the Spotlight Comments can be seen in some programs but not in
others.
For example, the great GraphicConverter shareware program has a special
window called Information that displays Spotlight Comments for each
file. I recommend GraphicConverter. It's like the poor man's
Photoshop with some parts on steroids.
iPhoto. I don't know if iPhoto can "see" the Get Info Spotlight
Comment info. I tried to find it but did not in the short time I
tried.
Photoshop. A quick look at Photoshop didn't reveal a way to show the
Spotlight Comments but there could be a plugin available to do this.
??
Search/Find command. You can use Search/Find to search and display
files with a designated Spotlight Commend. By looking at the Kind
popup in Search/Find (do a Command f on a folder to invoke Search/Find)
then opening the Other section and scrolling to Spotlight Command - put
a check in the check box - then Spotlight Comment gets elevated to the
Kind menu for your future convenience.
I'm sure other programs can show Spotlight Comments but I have no names
immediately at hand.
Denver Dan
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:41:45 -0400, Terry Pogue wrote:
> Where do you see "comments"? When I download a pic from the web it's
> just a graphic there is no text area? If I want it opened I use
> photoshop in CS but I think one can also use preview. Still it's
> usually just a .jpg. I must be missing something.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com macdane1
Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:55 pm (PDT)
On Oct 28, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Anna Larson <pix@maksimo.de > wrote:
> OK, I'll try to make it as simple as possible.
> 1) Find a picture on the net which you like.
> 2) Download that picture with Safari to your hard disk (or simply
> drag it from Safari to the desktop per Drag and Drop).
> 3) Now select the photo in Finder and press Command + i.
> 4) Then write some information such as the download location (= the
> site from where you got the photo) into the Comments field.
> [snip]
Hi Anna,
There are a couple of things going on here but I'll try to help.
Most of what you're talking about is collectively known as EXIF
(Exchangeable Image File Format) data. This is a set of metadata tags
used to describe image and sound files, and we never really have to
think much about it because, in the case of digital photos, our
cameras automatically record these tags for us. EXIF data may include,
among other things, such information as copyright, data and time of
image capture, and the camera settings used to capture the photo. Most
competent image viewing and manipulation software has some sort of
ability to display at least some of the EXIF data. Almost invariably,
though, any act of "importing" will result in the loss of large chunks
of this data...but the core attributes I mentioned earlier will
typically remain.
"Spotlight Comments" is not a part of the EXIF specification -- it's a
uniquely "Apple" thing -- and it's one of the things that gets
stripped out when you import the image into iPhoto. Apple could've
handled things differently by allowing you to write to an actual EXIF
attribute (or one of a broader set of ITPC attributes used by
international news agencies) but they didn't. That's ok, it just means
you need to tweak your workflow to make this work.
If you locate and select one of these images in iPhoto, you should see
a small information pane in the lower-left of the window (if you don't
see it, click the small blue "info" icon which should be in the
vicinity). This pane contains marginally useful info, but pressing
command-option-i will give you access to much more data, including the
key attributes I mentioned above. What's not there, no matter how hard
you look, is a Spotlight Comments attribute.
So. My suggestion is to skip steps 2-4 in your workflow. Instead, when
you find an image you like, right-click and choose "Add Image to
iPhoto." Select the photo and hit command-i IN IPHOTO, NOT THE FINDER,
and add your notes about the image source and copyright to the
description field. This still isn't the appropriate method or place
for that data, but it appears that's all iPhoto offers you. Besides,
it should make your workflow slightly smoother by eliminating the
steps involving the Finder.
Oh, and as a photographer, thanks for at least giving a crap about
copyright!
Hope this helps,
Dane
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:15 pm (PDT)
On 28 October 2011 18:01, Anna Larson <pix@maksimo.de > wrote:
> OK, I'll try to make it as simple as possible.
>
> 1) Find a picture on the net which you like.
>
> 2) Download that picture with Safari to your hard disk (or simply drag it
> from Safari to the desktop per Drag and Drop).
>
> 3) Now select the photo in Finder and press Command + i.
>
> 4) Then write some information such as the download location (= the site
> from where you got the photo) into the Comments field.
>
> 4) Under "More Info" (in the middle of the pane) you will see that metadata
> are enlisted: Dimensions, Color space, Color profile, Download location,
> etc.
>
> 5) Now close the pane which you opened with Command + i and import the
> photo into iPhoto, and delete the original in Finder, you don't want to
> clutter your hard disk with unnecessary duplicates.
>
> 6) Now scrutinize the photo in iPhoto. Spotlight Comments and metadata such
> as the download location (= the URL) have been stripped off during the
> import process.
>
> 7) In iPhoto you have now no possibility to see from where you got the
> damned photo, nor can you see whether the photo is copyrighted or not.
>
>
> Is it clear now what I mean?
>
>
> Anna
>
> As others have explained, EXIF data and "comments" added using Finder are
not the same thing. Simple answer: import photo into iPhoto, *then* edit the
info there.
Otto
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net terrypogue_2000
Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:31 pm (PDT)
I know the Get Info window but I didn't realize that was information one added to a graphic downloaded from the web. Hmmm. I'll have to check into that.
terry
On Oct 28, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Forrest Leedy wrote:
> Anna, I am not really following your problem that clearly. Are you saying that you Have imported photo's into a folder on your computer and now you want to put them into iPhoto? If this is the case and they actually came with additional information you should be able to import them directly into iPhoto. At any rate that is the only way you can get them into iPhoto is by importing them. IPhoto will only import a copy of the photos and leave your original in the folders.
>
> Forrest
>
> On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Anna Larson wrote:
>
>> How can I import photos into iPhoto from Finder while preserving the original metadata and Spotlight comments?
>>
>> I have a large collection of photos in Finder which I got from the internet. Information about each photo (copyrights etc.) is stored in the Spotlight Comments field (Command + i) and as metadata in the file itself (for example Where from: …). Now, when I import photos to iPhoto all comments will get lost, so it seems.
>>
>> How can I import photos into iPhoto from Finder so that the original metadata and Spotlight comments will be preserved?
>>
>>
>> Anna
>>
>> iPhoto 9.2
>> OS X 10.6.8
>> MacBook Pro 17''
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FaceTime on iPhone 4s?
Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca epsongroups
Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:05 pm (PDT)
So after tinkering with my new phone I can't get facetime to work. The
icons are there but the other party also has icons, but neither can see
the other. We can each see ourselves, but not the other party. I am on
Bell Canada 3G network and have my phone set to use my home wifi network
by default, so I don't use my phone's data plan (I think that is how it
works.... I have 25 GB for home use and 1 GB on the phone, and since
this is all new to me, I have no idea yet how much data I will be using
on the phone.) Anyway, I looked up the concept of connecting and making
facetime calls, but we get the red error message of facetime failure or
some such thing. The receiving party is not necessarily signed on to any
wifi network - is that a requirement?... from what I read some people
are making around the world calls with it, yet I can't even get it to
work upstairs to downstairs (I am still trying to get both phones set up
down its multiple layers of preferences and settings. Is there some
number that I can call that automatically checks your configuration or
setup so that facetime is actually setup and working?
Thanks
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