Messages In This Digest (17 Messages)
- 1.1.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Anna Larson
- 1.2.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Jim Saklad
- 1.3.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Dane Robison
- 1.4.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Dane Robison
- 1.5.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Jim Saklad
- 1.6.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Anna Larson
- 1.7.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Anna Larson
- 1.8.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Jim Saklad
- 1.9.
- Re: iPhoto question From: Otto Nikolaus
- 2a.
- Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain From: Jim Robertson
- 2b.
- Re: Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain From: Jim Saklad
- 2c.
- Re: Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain From: Denver Dan
- 2d.
- Re: Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain From: Bob Cook
- 3a.
- Re: A eulogy for Steve Jobs, as spoken by his sister From: Doug Yelmen
- 3b.
- Re: A eulogy for Steve Jobs, as spoken by his sister From: Harry Flaxman
- 4a.
- Re: saving mail attachments From: Metaksa Tanya
- 4b.
- Re: saving mail attachments From: Metaksa Tanya
Messages
- 1.1.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:27 pm (PDT)
On 31.10.2011, at 00:52, Oneal Neumann wrote:
>
> Don't presume that photos imported from the Net contain Exif data, Anna.
Thank you very much for drawing my attention to this, I thought indeed that since they had been uploaded by someone they must also contain some Exif data.
>
> I use the iPhotos Information as much as possible. I'm fast approaching 20-thou photos and I need to be able to track people, situations, etc.
Do you notice any slowdown in performance by so many photos?
Do you have any problems with Faces that so many people have complained about?
Anna
- 1.2.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:51 pm (PDT)
>> Don't presume that photos imported from the Net contain Exif data, Anna.
>
> Thank you very much for drawing my attention to this, I thought indeed that since they had been uploaded by someone they must also contain some Exif data.
Since we're on a Mac list, essentially everyone has Preview.
In Finder, click on a list of several photos, some web-downloaded, some camera-inported, and open them in Preview.
With an image displayed, press <Command><i>.
On images with EXIF data, EXIF is one of the tab choices within the info window.
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- 1.3.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com macdane1
Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:51 pm (PDT)
On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Anna Larson wrote:
> Well, I just chose randomly a picture from flickr.com [...] As you
> can see here no metadata were imported, everything is blank.
That particular photo doesn't have any EXIF data, even on Flickr, so
this has nothing to do with iPhoto.
> Well, I think it is a major catastrophe [...]
I feel your pain, but it's more a matter of using the right tool for
the job. iPhoto has the capability to be that tool, but you need to
get the photos into iPhoto before entering your comments. It's sort of
like writing an address on a sticky not and putting it on the
dashboard of your car. Do you expect that your car's navigation system
will know what to do with it? Nope. When you want to use your
navigation system to find someplace, you enter the address into the
nav system directly.
> Are you maybe using an older version of iPhoto?
Almost certainly, as I rarely use it for anything. For iPhoto 11, see
here:
http://support.apple.com/ kb/PH2402
> I would consider this workflow a major impediment to intelligent
> work [...] What an absurd joke. :-)
The fact that this whole scenario doesn't accommodate *your* customary
workflow makes it neither unintelligent nor absurd. It's just not what
you'd hoped for, I get that. But looked at objectively, you have an
opportunity here to cut a couple of steps out of the workflow you
described. Assuming you stick with Safari and iPhoto as your tools,
why not just keep iPhoto running all the time? When you see a photo
you want, right-click, add to iPhoto, and then type or paste the
relevant info in then and there? That may not be what you're used to,
but it's unquestionably more efficient ... and it will work.
> Lost the copyright holder, sorry folks, I'm using a Mac …
That's a cheap shot, Anna. Expecting Spotlight Comments to be treated
as an EXIF attribute when it's not is just plain unreasonable. There
are ways to make this all work, but you need to recognize your role in
making it happen.
Dane
- 1.4.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com macdane1
Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:59 pm (PDT)
On Oct 30, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Anna Larson wrote:
> I think I may perhaps have forgotten to mention that the core
> problem is how to get all my old Internet photos into iPhoto
> *without loosing* the source data, the URLs. Importing the photos is
> not an option because that will result in loss of metadata.
Yikes, that's a tough one. The best thing I can think of is to take a
look at Photo Mechanic <http://www.camerabits.com/site/ >. It's a very
capable tool for dealing with all sorts of metadata, and is incredibly
well supported.
Good luck!
Dane
- 1.5.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:00 pm (PDT)
>> I would consider this workflow a major impediment to intelligent work [...] What an absurd joke. :-)
>
> The fact that this whole scenario doesn't accommodate *your* customary workflow makes it neither unintelligent nor absurd. It's just not what you'd hoped for, I get that. But looked at objectively, you have an opportunity here to cut a couple of steps out of the workflow you described. Assuming you stick with Safari and iPhoto as your tools, why not just keep iPhoto running all the time? When you see a photo you want, right-click, add to iPhoto, and then type or paste the relevant info in then and there? That may not be what you're used to, but it's unquestionably more efficient ... and it will work.
>
>> Lost the copyright holder, sorry folks, I'm using a Mac …
>
> That's a cheap shot, Anna. Expecting Spotlight Comments to be treated as an EXIF attribute when it's not is just plain unreasonable. There are ways to make this all work, but you need to recognize your role in making it happen.
>
> Dane
Perhaps an Automator workflow is what is needed here. Any volunteers?
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- 1.6.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:09 pm (PDT)
On 31.10.2011, at 01:01, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> On 30 October 2011 21:44, Anna Larson <pix@maksimo.de > wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Otto,
>>
>> I think I may perhaps have forgotten to mention that the core problem is
>> how to get all my old Internet photos into iPhoto *without loosing* the
>> source data, the URLs. Importing the photos is not an option because that
>> will result in loss of metadata.
>>
>> What about Apple scripts? Has anybody written scripts to save the
>> Spotlight comments as "Description" in iPhoto? That could be the solution.
>>
>
> To be clear, are you talking about info *you've added* to the image files
> using Finder, or info that's *already* part of the file?
Both.
The infos I have added myself are infos I wrote or pasted directly into the file's Spotlight Comments box. During the import to iPhoto these infos are wiped out and there is apparently nothing one can do about it as Dane Robision already explained.
But it was not until today that I discovered that the download location (the URL) is ALSO stripped off when a photo from the Internet is imported and that is a catastrophe I find. I double checked this using GraphicConverter and GraphicConverter could not find any download URL after it had been imported. I'm talking here about the imported file which resides inside the iPhoto Library. The file can be directly accessed in iPhoto through the menu command
File > Reveal in Finder > Original File
Anna
- 1.7.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Anna Larson" pix@maksimo.de yovard@ymail.com
Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:25 pm (PDT)
On 31.10.2011, at 02:09, Anna Larson wrote:
> I'm talking here about the imported file which resides inside the iPhoto Library. The file can be directly accessed in iPhoto through the menu command
>
> File > Reveal in Finder > Original File
>
… which in fact is NOT the original file but the imported file. :-)
Anna
- 1.8.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:02 pm (PDT)
>>> I think I may perhaps have forgotten to mention that the core problem is how to get all my old Internet photos into iPhoto *without loosing* the source data, the URLs. Importing the photos is not an option because that will result in loss of metadata.
>>>
>>> What about Apple scripts? Has anybody written scripts to save the Spotlight comments as "Description" in iPhoto? That could be the solution.
>>
>> To be clear, are you talking about info *you've added* to the image files using Finder, or info that's *already* part of the file?
>
> Both.
>
> The infos I have added myself are infos I wrote or pasted directly into the file's Spotlight Comments box. During the import to iPhoto these infos are wiped out and there is apparently nothing one can do about it as Dane Robision already explained.
>
> But it was not until today that I discovered that the download location (the URL) is ALSO stripped off when a photo from the Internet is imported and that is a catastrophe I find. I double checked this using GraphicConverter and GraphicConverter could not find any download URL after it had been imported. I'm talking here about the imported file which resides inside the iPhoto Library. The file can be directly accessed in iPhoto through the menu command
>
> File > Reveal in Finder > Original File
I note that the Mac App Store find several apps when I search for EXIF, some of which allows writing data to the EXIF sub-file.
Perhaps one of these instead of Finder Info comments would do the job.
I don't use iPhoto myself, but I would think that data IN the EXIF file should survive import into iPhoto.
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- 1.9.
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Re: iPhoto question
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:04 am (PDT)
On 31 October 2011 02:02, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
>
> I note that the Mac App Store find several apps when I search for EXIF,
> some of which allows writing data to the EXIF sub-file.
>
> Perhaps one of these instead of Finder Info comments would do the job.
>
> I don't use iPhoto myself, but I would think that data IN the EXIF file
> should survive import into iPhoto.
>
It most certainly does. Without it, library apps like iPhoto, Picasa, etc.,
just wouldn't work and would probably not even exist.
Otto
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- 2a.
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Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain
Posted by: "Jim Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net jamesrob328i
Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:29 pm (PDT)
I can't be certain this problem is new, but I think it began with iOS 5 on
my iPhone 4 and seems even more dramatic on my iPhone 4S.
I make patient rounds in 3 hospitals. Each of these institutions has a
"public" WiFi network that requires me to acknowledge conditions for
connecting in my mobile Safari browser. The WiFi icon shows a connection
even before I log in in mobile Safari, and until I log in with mobile
Safari, at the two hospitals where cell service is marginal, the iPhone
warms up in its holster because the Mail application tries endlessly to
retrieve email from my IMAP and Exchange servers.
I finally figured this out today while trying to demonstrate Siri to a
colleague who uses an Android device. Seeing the WiFi icon active but having
Siri tell me she had no network connection made me open Safari and
acknowledge the connection conditions. Before I did that the phone was quite
warm, and in the Mail app the recursive circle was spinning.
Once I logged in in Safari, the phone cooled down over the next 20 minutes,
and battery drain obviously slowed down.
So, what's the best option to prolong battery life:
1. Turn off WiFi connectability EXCEPT when I need an outgoing internet
connection? (I don't know if the same power drain would persist with the
phone trying to use the marginal 3G cell network).
2. Have Siri remind me to log in every time I get to the hospital with the
bad 3G network so that the WiFi network becomes available? Actually, I'm not
sure that would work - once the iOS 5 reminder is set, would I need an
ESTABLISHED WiFi connection to trigger the reminder?
3. Force myself somehow to remember to disable push Mail reception
altogether at that hospital?
Any other suggestions?
--
Jim Robertson
- 2b.
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Re: Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:57 pm (PDT)
I like #2, and I think it's at least worth a try. Not EVERYthing Siri does requires connectivity, and I would think that this is one of those that doesn't.
Also, if you're AT&T, use the AT&T Mark The Spot App to notify them of bad reception there.
> I make patient rounds in 3 hospitals. Each of these institutions has a "public" WiFi network that requires me to acknowledge conditions for connecting in my mobile Safari browser. The WiFi icon shows a connection even before I log in in mobile Safari, and until I log in with mobile Safari, at the two hospitals where cell service is marginal, the iPhone warms up in its holster because the Mail application tries endlessly to retrieve email from my IMAP and Exchange servers.
>
> I finally figured this out today while trying to demonstrate Siri to a colleague who uses an Android device. Seeing the WiFi icon active but having Siri tell me she had no network connection made me open Safari and acknowledge the connection conditions. Before I did that the phone was quite warm, and in the Mail app the recursive circle was spinning.
>
> Once I logged in in Safari, the phone cooled down over the next 20 minutes, and battery drain obviously slowed down.
>
> So, what's the best option to prolong battery life:
>
> 1. Turn off WiFi connectability EXCEPT when I need an outgoing internet connection? (I don't know if the same power drain would persist with the phone trying to use the marginal 3G cell network).
>
> 2. Have Siri remind me to log in every time I get to the hospital with the bad 3G network so that the WiFi network becomes available? Actually, I'm not sure that would work - once the iOS 5 reminder is set, would I need an ESTABLISHED WiFi connection to trigger the reminder?
>
> 3. Force myself somehow to remember to disable push Mail reception altogether at that hospital?
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- 2c.
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Re: Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:47 pm (PDT)
Howdy.
You may be seeing a problem on iPhone 4S with excessive battery drain.
There are several articles out about this issue.
The number of iPhone 4Ss with the problem seems to be small.
The issue may be a bug in iOS 5.
If you do an online search on this topic you will find a bunch of
articles.
Apple engineers have been in touch with a number of iPhone 4S users and
asked them to install a special app that records data connected to the
problem and then to send the data to the Apple engineers after a
certain amount of time.
The Guardian Unlimited in the UK had a decent article on this but there
is no guarantee that what they discuss is the cause of the problem.
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/technolog >y/2011/oct/ 29/iphone- 4s-battery- location- services- bug?INTCMP= SRCH
Denver Dan
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:29:07 -0700, Jim Robertson wrote:
> I can't be certain this problem is new, but I think it began with iOS 5 on
> my iPhone 4 and seems even more dramatic on my iPhone 4S.
>
> I make patient rounds in 3 hospitals. Each of these institutions has a
> "public" WiFi network that requires me to acknowledge conditions for
> connecting in my mobile Safari browser. The WiFi icon shows a connection
> even before I log in in mobile Safari, and until I log in with mobile
> Safari, at the two hospitals where cell service is marginal, the iPhone
> warms up in its holster because the Mail application tries endlessly to
> retrieve email from my IMAP and Exchange servers.
>
> I finally figured this out today while trying to demonstrate Siri to a
> colleague who uses an Android device. Seeing the WiFi icon active but having
> Siri tell me she had no network connection made me open Safari and
> acknowledge the connection conditions. Before I did that the phone was quite
> warm, and in the Mail app the recursive circle was spinning.
>
> Once I logged in in Safari, the phone cooled down over the next 20 minutes,
> and battery drain obviously slowed down.
>
> So, what's the best option to prolong battery life:
>
> 1. Turn off WiFi connectability EXCEPT when I need an outgoing internet
> connection? (I don't know if the same power drain would persist with the
> phone trying to use the marginal 3G cell network).
>
> 2. Have Siri remind me to log in every time I get to the hospital with the
> bad 3G network so that the WiFi network becomes available? Actually, I'm not
> sure that would work - once the iOS 5 reminder is set, would I need an
> ESTABLISHED WiFi connection to trigger the reminder?
>
> 3. Force myself somehow to remember to disable push Mail reception
> altogether at that hospital?
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> --
> Jim Robertson
>
- 2d.
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Re: Iphone 4S, iOS 5; push services, WiFi, and battery drain
Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com cookrd1
Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:00 pm (PDT)
Jim,
The transmit power in any cell phone is controlled by the cell site it is
connected to and is inversely proportional to signal strength. Nothing,
other than a screen set to maximum brightness, will drain a battery like a
poor cell signal. It takes a lot of power to run your data radio and your
voice radio.
You can do some things to alleviate the problem, but some of these might
not work for you. First, you can turn off data. Or, you can lengthen the
ping time to check your email or other network connections. You can also
turn off location services, or at least the cell portion.
If none of these are good alternatives, there is always the Mophie
Juicepack Air, or similar battery cases.
HTH,
-Bob
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Jim Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> I can't be certain this problem is new, but I think it began with iOS 5 on
> my iPhone 4 and seems even more dramatic on my iPhone 4S.
>
> I make patient rounds in 3 hospitals. Each of these institutions has a
> "public" WiFi network that requires me to acknowledge conditions for
> connecting in my mobile Safari browser. The WiFi icon shows a connection
> even before I log in in mobile Safari, and until I log in with mobile
> Safari, at the two hospitals where cell service is marginal, the iPhone
> warms up in its holster because the Mail application tries endlessly to
> retrieve email from my IMAP and Exchange servers.
>
>
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Re: A eulogy for Steve Jobs, as spoken by his sister
Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net dougyelmen
Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:32 pm (PDT)
thank you very much, Bill.
doug
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> Tech by Zach Epstein on 10/30/11
>
> During a memorial service for Steve Jobs that took place on October
> 16th, his sister Mona Simpson delivered a touching eulogy that was
> published in today's New York Times. Follow the link below to read it
> in its entirety.
>
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Re: A eulogy for Steve Jobs, as spoken by his sister
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net hflaxman001
Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:23 pm (PDT)
Thanks for this Bill!
Harry
On 10/30/2011 8:01 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> http://feedproxy.google.com/ ~r/TheBoyGeniusR eport/~3/ qL4EBJqaRKk/
>
>
>
> Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: A eulogy for Steve
>
> Jobs, as spoken by his sister via BGR: The Three Biggest Letters In
>
> Tech by Zach Epstein on 10/30/11
>
>
>
> During a memorial service for Steve Jobs that took place on October
>
> 16th, his sister Mona Simpson delivered a touching eulogy that was
>
> published in today̢۪s New York Times. Follow the link below to read it
>
> in its entirety.
- 4a.
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Re: saving mail attachments
Posted by: "Metaksa Tanya" tanya.metaksa@att.net tanya.metaksa@att.net
Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:27 pm (PDT)
Thanks for the answer. I will check it out in the folder you suggested, Randy.
Now I have another problem:
I set up my iCloud user account and password with a new username. Now after having it work I got a message that it couldn't sync,
Thinking my password wasn't correct, I went on iCloud on my iPhone 3S and changed the password.
I changed the password on my iPhone and on my iCal, but I am still getting this message:
Access to account "hotbaba1937@me.com " is not permitted.
The server responded:
"HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden"
to operation CalDAVAccountRefreshQueueableOperat ion.
Can anyone help?
TIA
Tanya Metaksa
On Oct 30, 2011, at 12:16 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Oct 29, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Metaksa Tanya wrote:
>
> > I am still using Snow Leopard. I want to save almost three years
> > worth of attachments from one email address. Since I get these
> > attachemnts 1-3 x per day, there are a lot of attachments to save
> > individually. Is there a way to do this without doing it one at a
> > time. Or is there a program that I can buy to help me do this?
>
> You have already saved them. Each attachment exists, as a separate
> file, in this folder:
>
> [hard drive icon] --> Users folder --> [your user name] --> Library --
> > Mail Downloads
>
> And within that folder, you can choose to view things "By List" and
> then sort everything the way that is most convenient for you (by
> date, by kind, etc.)
>
> However, if that isn't what you had in mind, there are several e-mail
> archiving applications listed here:
> http://www.hawkwings.net/plugins. htm#archive
>
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Re: saving mail attachments
Posted by: "Metaksa Tanya" tanya.metaksa@gmail.com tmetaksa@att.net
Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:30 pm (PDT)
I am using the Mail program supplied with Snow Leopard.
Tanya
On Oct 30, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Since you don't mention which email program you are using no one can
> answer your question.
>
> If you are using Apple's included Mail program, it isn't easy to save
> attachments in bulk.
>
> If you are using an email program like Outlook, Entourage, GyazMail, or
> a couple of others, these program have filters that are part of the
> program and these filters can be configured to save all attachments
> from a whole group of selected messages to a folder on the hard drive
> that you designate.
>
> It is possible that there is some kind of plugin for Apple Mail that
> might also make this possible. I've tried to make an Automator plug in
> for Apple's Mail that would also do this but could never make it work.
>
> Denver Dan
>
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:56:37 -0700, Metaksa Tanya wrote:
> > I am still using Snow Leopard. I want to save almost three years
> > worth of attachments from one email address. Since I get these
> > attachemnts 1-3 x per day, there are a lot of attachments to save
> > individually. Is there a way to do this without doing it one at a
> > time. Or is there a program that I can buy to help me do this?
> >
> > Any suggestions are very much appreciated.
> >
> > Tanya
> >
>
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