10/24/2011

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1a.

Re: Steve Jobs Biographer

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:19 am (PDT)



This may be a large part of it:

<http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/steve-jobs-final-vendetta-haunt-google-14795854
>

.........Mike

On Oct 23, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> On 10/23/2011 4:44 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>> Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>
>>>> Don't forget, SJ's biographer will be doing a piece on 60 Minutes
>>>> tonight.
>>>> The national news during the past couple of nights seem to
>>>> indicate it will
>>>> be the start of an 'earth shattering' experience!
>>>>
>>>> Harry
>> Is that sarcasm or not? No smiley makes me confused as to the
>> veracity
>> of that statement. Will it or won't it be?
>>
>> keith
>
> Oh yes, he will indeed be on the show tonight. Apparently, all the
> major networks were able to buy a copy of the biography on Friday. It
> led to many news reports about it as well as the biographer being
> interviewed in one of the segments for 60 Minutes tonight.
>
> Jobs had some scathing comments about Bill Gates, Google, among
> others.
> Having followed Apple and Jobs for many years, I suspected that what
> he
> said is and was the truth.
>
> Harry
>
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Re: Steve Jobs Biographer

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:57 am (PDT)



On 10/23/2011 8:19 AM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> This may be a large part of it:
>
> <http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/steve-jobs-final-vendetta-haunt-google-14795854
> >
>
> .........Mike
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> > On 10/23/2011 4:44 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>>> >> Harry Flaxman wrote:
>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> Don't forget, SJ's biographer will be doing a piece on 60 Minutes
>>>>> >>>> tonight.
>>>>> >>>> The national news during the past couple of nights seem to
>>>>> >>>> indicate it will
>>>>> >>>> be the start of an 'earth shattering' experience!
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Harry
>>> >> Is that sarcasm or not? No smiley makes me confused as to the
>>> >> veracity
>>> >> of that statement. Will it or won't it be?
>>> >>
>>> >> keith
>> >
>> > Oh yes, he will indeed be on the show tonight. Apparently, all the
>> > major networks were able to buy a copy of the biography on Friday. It
>> > led to many news reports about it as well as the biographer being
>> > interviewed in one of the segments for 60 Minutes tonight.
>> >
>> > Jobs had some scathing comments about Bill Gates, Google, among
>> > others.
>> > Having followed Apple and Jobs for many years, I suspected that what
>> > he
>> > said is and was the truth.
>> >
>> > Harry
>> >

Yes, that's probably part of it. On NBC NIghtly News, he is quoted as
slamming Google for being nothing but thieves. They ripped off the
iPhone's OS and design, he said, using an expletive in the same
sentence. He called Gates unimaginative. He never invented anything,
he just ripped other people off, and made money from it.

Harry

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MacBook Air 11"

Posted by: "hester reik" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:48 am (PDT)



Gurus,
My daughter's bf spilled lemon water on her old mb and though it works, it's
not 'right'. So, like the gentlemen he is, he agreed to replace it. After
reading here and elsewhere, I advised them to get at least 4 GB of RAM b/c
of Lion. But what do mom's know?

In any case, her computer needs are minimal: email, browsing and word
processing and she liked the 11" Macbook Air. She hasn't taken it out of the
box yet and at the Apple store they told her she could swap it out after 2
weeks, if she didn't like it.

Is it true that all she needs is the 2 GB, which is what the base model came
with, given her 'minimal' needs?

Thanks in advance. Sorry for the verbosity :).

hester

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Re: MacBook Air 11"

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:50 am (PDT)



I would say that 4GB is necessary - she likely can get by with 2GB and with
the SSD and processor in the latest Airs she likely will see a huge speed
boost from previous lap top but if she ever does anything memory intensive,
she is going to run into problems.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 08:47, hester reik <dhreik@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Gurus,
> My daughter's bf spilled lemon water on her old mb and though it works,
> it's
> not 'right'. So, like the gentlemen he is, he agreed to replace it. After
> reading here and elsewhere, I advised them to get at least 4 GB of RAM b/c
> of Lion. But what do mom's know?
>
> In any case, her computer needs are minimal: email, browsing and word
> processing and she liked the 11" Macbook Air. She hasn't taken it out of
> the
> box yet and at the Apple store they told her she could swap it out after 2
> weeks, if she didn't like it.
>
> Is it true that all she needs is the 2 GB, which is what the base model
> came
> with, given her 'minimal' needs?
>
> Thanks in advance. Sorry for the verbosity :).
>
> hester
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Re: MacBook Air 11"

Posted by: "hester" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:44 am (PDT)





Thanks much. I'm letting her know this. Much appreciated.

hester
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...> wrote:
>
> I would say that 4GB is necessary - she likely can get by with 2GB and with
> the SSD and processor in the latest Airs she likely will see a huge speed
> boost from previous lap top but if she ever does anything memory intensive,
> she is going to run into problems.
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 08:47, hester reik <dhreik@...> wrote:
>

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Re: MacBook Air 11"

Posted by: "Jim Harry" jim.harry@harryfamily.com   jnharry

Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:46 am (PDT)



On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>wrote:

> I would say that 4GB is necessary - she likely can get by with 2GB and with
> the SSD and processor in the latest Airs she likely will see a huge speed
> boost from previous lap top but if she ever does anything memory intensive,
> she is going to run into problems.
>

Since the AIr's memory cannot be upgraded after the fact, I'd recommend 4GB
for future use.

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Re: MacBook Air 11"

Posted by: "hester" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:29 am (PDT)





--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jim Harry <jim.harry@...> wrote:

>
> Since the AIr's memory cannot be upgraded after the fact, I'd recommend 4GB
> for future use.
>

Thank you. I am encouraging her to swap it out b/f taking it out of the box. But kids don't like to listen to their parents especially when they are still a bit dependent :).

Love this group.

thanks

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3a.

Re: Strange Share name (was: Strange Terminal prompt)

Posted by: "a_hidden_id" a_hidden_id@yahoo.com   a_hidden_id

Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:52 am (PDT)





If you run hostname in terminal on each computer, does it reveal anything?

Maybe there's something lingering in some cache that hasn't been flushed. I'd be tempted to rename the computers and then change them back to the way you have them.

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Re: Strange Share name (was: Strange Terminal prompt)

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:29 pm (PDT)



On "DavesMini" (as listed in System Preferences > Sharing), when I
run hostname in Terminal it says:

walter

I then ran

sudo scutil --set HostName DavesMini.

I ran the hostname command and it now shows "DavesMini", and as does
the prompt in Terminal.

But...

Running the set hostname command changed the share name from

"Other users can access shared folders... at afp://walter.local
or DavesMini."

to:

"Other users can access shared folders... at afp://heather.local
or DavesMini."

Would you suggest reinstalling Lion? Is it Lion that determines this
share name? Or the router on the LAN?

Thanks for your suggestions.

Dave

-=-=-=-

>If you run hostname in terminal on each computer, does it reveal anything?
>
>Maybe there's something lingering in some cache that hasn't been
>flushed. I'd be tempted to rename the computers and then change them
>back to the way you have them.

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Re: Strange Share name (was: Strange Terminal prompt)

Posted by: "a_hidden_id" a_hidden_id@yahoo.com   a_hidden_id

Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:48 pm (PDT)





As far as I know, the name is set on each computer in the sharing panel that you have become intimate with. Have you changed routers or firewall configurations lately? I suppose that some routers might block some stuff such as Bonjour. I suspect that your problem might be Bonjour related but I don't know much about it.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, DaveC <davec2468@...> wrote:
>
> On "DavesMini" (as listed in System Preferences > Sharing), when I
> run hostname in Terminal it says:
>
> walter
>
> I then ran
>
> sudo scutil --set HostName DavesMini.
>
> I ran the hostname command and it now shows "DavesMini", and as does
> the prompt in Terminal.
>
> But...
>
> Running the set hostname command changed the share name from
>
> "Other users can access shared folders... at afp://walter.local
> or DavesMini."
>
> to:
>
> "Other users can access shared folders... at afp://heather.local
> or DavesMini."
>
> Would you suggest reinstalling Lion? Is it Lion that determines this
> share name? Or the router on the LAN?
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
>
> Dave
>
> -=-=-=-
>
> >If you run hostname in terminal on each computer, does it reveal anything?
> >
> >Maybe there's something lingering in some cache that hasn't been
> >flushed. I'd be tempted to rename the computers and then change them
> >back to the way you have them.
>

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Re: Strange Share name (was: Strange Terminal prompt)

Posted by: "a_hidden_id" a_hidden_id@yahoo.com   a_hidden_id

Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:56 pm (PDT)



Furthermore, your problem appears to be related to the way the mini is connected to the larger network. Are they all on the same subnet?

Searching Help for Bonjour leads to the following:

Local hostname (or "local network name"): Other computers on the same network subnet can find your computer by this name using Bonjour, a network technology developed by Apple Inc. Bonjour-compatible devices and services (such as computers or printers) automatically advertise their availability on the local network, so you can easily find devices and services you want to use. You can change the local network name.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "a_hidden_id" <a_hidden_id@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> As far as I know, the name is set on each computer in the sharing panel that you have become intimate with. Have you changed routers or firewall configurations lately? I suppose that some routers might block some stuff such as Bonjour. I suspect that your problem might be Bonjour related but I don't know much about it.
>
>
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, DaveC <davec2468@> wrote:
> >
> > On "DavesMini" (as listed in System Preferences > Sharing), when I
> > run hostname in Terminal it says:
> >
> > walter
> >
> > I then ran
> >
> > sudo scutil --set HostName DavesMini.
> >
> > I ran the hostname command and it now shows "DavesMini", and as does
> > the prompt in Terminal.
> >
> > But...
> >
> > Running the set hostname command changed the share name from
> >
> > "Other users can access shared folders... at afp://walter.local
> > or DavesMini."
> >
> > to:
> >
> > "Other users can access shared folders... at afp://heather.local
> > or DavesMini."
> >
> > Would you suggest reinstalling Lion? Is it Lion that determines this
> > share name? Or the router on the LAN?
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -=-=-=-
> >
> > >If you run hostname in terminal on each computer, does it reveal anything?
> > >
> > >Maybe there's something lingering in some cache that hasn't been
> > >flushed. I'd be tempted to rename the computers and then change them
> > >back to the way you have them.
> >
>

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Re: Strange Share name (was: Strange Terminal prompt)

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:24 pm (PDT)



>Furthermore, your problem appears to be related to the way the mini
>is connected to the larger network. Are they all on the same subnet?

The LAN is divided thus:

ATT Uverse (2wire) router
|
|
Gig switch----- walter
| |----- heather
|
|
Gig switch----- DavesMini
|----- OldMini

>Searching Help for Bonjour leads to the following: ...

I had the general understand of how Bonjour works. Not sure how to
troubleshoot it, though...

This symptom (someone else's share name) is not causing any
functional problems that I can see now. I'm just concerned that it
might be indicative of some underlying corruption that will cause
trouble later if not corrected now.

>[a_hidden_ID]

Really? So secretive!
Dave

-=-=-=-

>--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "a_hidden_id"
><a_hidden_id@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as I know, the name is set on each computer in the sharing
>>panel that you have become intimate with. Have you changed routers
>>or firewall configurations lately? I suppose that some routers
>>might block some stuff such as Bonjour. I suspect that your problem
>>might be Bonjour related but I don't know much about it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, DaveC <davec2468@> wrote:
>> >
>> > On "DavesMini" (as listed in System Preferences > Sharing), when I
>> > run hostname in Terminal it says:
>> >
>> > walter
>> >
>> > I then ran
>> >
>> > sudo scutil --set HostName DavesMini.
>> >
>> > I ran the hostname command and it now shows "DavesMini", and as does
>> > the prompt in Terminal.
>> >
>> > But...
>> >
>> > Running the set hostname command changed the share name from
>> >
>> > "Other users can access shared folders... at afp://walter.local
>> > or DavesMini."
>> >
>> > to:
>> >
>> > "Other users can access shared folders... at afp://heather.local
>> > or DavesMini."
>> >
>> > Would you suggest reinstalling Lion? Is it Lion that determines this
>> > share name? Or the router on the LAN?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your suggestions.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > -=-=-=-
>> >
>> > >If you run hostname in terminal on each computer, does it
>>reveal anything?
>> > >
>> > >Maybe there's something lingering in some cache that hasn't been
>> > >flushed. I'd be tempted to rename the computers and then change them
> > > >back to the way you have them.

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Re: Strange Share name (was: Strange Terminal prompt)

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:32 pm (PDT)



And the problem is now intermittent. I just quit all applications and
was getting ready to re-install Lion. I checked System Preferences
and the Sharing pane shows the correct share name:

Other users can access shared folders on this computer, and
administrators [sic] all volumes, at afp://davesmini.local/ or
"DavesMini".

Barring other developments or ideas I'm going to re-install Lion.

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: Strange Share name (was: Strange Terminal prompt)

Posted by: "a_hidden_id" a_hidden_id@yahoo.com   a_hidden_id

Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:51 am (PDT)



Good luck! I hope you'll let us know if that solves the problem.

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Re: Have pictures on my iPhone - need to transfer to Mac

Posted by: "Eric" emanmb@yahoo.com   emanmb

Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:48 am (PDT)



Start up the app Image Capture on your comp while iphone is connected and offload whatever pix you want.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Metaksa Tanya <tanya.metaksa@...> wrote:
>
>
> My daughter sent me pictures from her iPhone by attaching them to a text message. How do I get them from the phone to the mac book pro?
>
> TIA,
> Tanya
>

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CBS makes full 60 minutes Steve Jobs special available online

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:26 pm (PDT)



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/7AJtHy4ZnTM/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: CBS makes full 60
minutes Steve Jobs special available online via 9to5Mac by Jake Smith
on 10/23/11

http://cnettv.cnet.com/av/video/cbsnews/atlantis2/cbsnews_player_embed.swf

http://cnettv.cnet.com/av/video/cbsnews/atlantis2/cbsnews_player_embed.swf

http://cnettv.cnet.com/av/video/cbsnews/atlantis2/cbsnews_player_embed.swf

CBS has posted the full 60 Minutes program of the interview with Walter
Isaacson, the author of 'Steve Jobs' — which is due out tomorrow. The
rest of the program is after the break, including an extra where Steve
Jobs discussed his competitors:

http://cnettv.cnet.com/av/video/cbsnews/atlantis2/cbsnews_player_embed.swf

Extra:
http://cnettv.cnet.com/av/video/cbsnews/atlantis2/cbsnews_player_embed.swf





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Steve Jobs's Biographer on "60 Minutes": The Hi

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:58 pm (PDT)



http://feeds.mashable.com/~r/Mashable/~3/sZXasDD9VpA/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Steve Jobs's Biographer
on "60 Minutes": The Highlights via Mashable! by Lauren Indvik on
10/23/11


60 Minutes's interview with Walter Isaacson, the authorized biographer
of Apple founder and former CEO Steve Jobs, aired on CBS News around
the U.S. at 7 p.m. local time Sunday evening.

The segment appeared two-and-a-half weeks after Jobs's passing, and
less than 24 hours before Isaacson's biography hits bookshelves.
Excerpts of the biography, which contains information derived from
interviews with more than 100 individuals among his acquaintance, as
well as some 40 interviews with Jobs himself, have already appeared at
many media outlets.

Below, we've identified some highlights from the transcript of Sunday
evening's segment. You can watch the segment in full here.
Highlights
- Jobs invited Isaacson to write his biography seven years ago.
Isaacson thought the request "presumptuous and premature, since Jobs
was still a young man." What Isaacson didn't know at the time was that
Jobs was about to undergo surgery for pancreatic cancer.
- Isaacson describes Jobs as "petulant" and "brittle." "He could be
very, very mean to people at times. Whether it was to a waitress in a
restaurant, or to a guy who had stayed up all night coding. … And you'd
say, 'Why did you do that? Why weren't you nicer?' And he'd say, 'I
really want to be with people who demand perfection. And this is who I
am," recalls Isaacson.
- Isaacson attributes much of Jobs's personality and drive to a few key
moments in his childhood. Isaacson tells one anecdote involving the
construction of a fence with his adoptive father Paul. "And [Paul]
said, 'You got to make the back of the fence that nobody will see just
as good looking as the front of the fence. Even though nobody will see
it, you will know, and that will show that you're dedicated to making
something perfect.'"
- Jobs was also influenced by the Bay Area, and not just the
Hewlett-Packard offices located nearby, but also its counter-culture
spirit. "He was sort of a hippie-ish rebel kid, loved listening to
Dylan music, dropped acid, but also he loved electronics," Isaacson
describes. He says that when Jobs worked at game-maker Atari they had
to put him on the night shift because he walked around barefoot and
never bathed, and so employees didn't want to work with him.
- Jobs took a seven-month leave from Atari to travel through India. His
encounters there and with Zen Buddhism "really informed his design
sense," says Isaacson. "That notion that simplicity is the ultimate
sophistication [came from that trip]."
- When Jobs returned, he began making a primitive computer for
hobbyists in the garage of his parents with Steve Wozniak, Apple's
other founder. They started with $1,300. By the time Jobs was 25 Apple
was worth "maybe 50 million dollars," Jobs said in a taped recording
with Isaacson. "I knew I never had to worry about money again."
- Jobs also had a natural disregard for authority, and felt that normal
rules didn't apply to him, Isaacson explains. One manifestation of that
principle was visible in a Mercedes sports coupe he owned, which he
refused to put a license plate on.
- Isaacson says Jobs's house in Palo Alto is completely unremarkable.
"[It's] a house on a normal street with a normal sidewalk. No big
winding driveway. No big security fences," Isaacson says. He recalls
that Jobs said he "did not want to live that nutso lavish lifestyle
that so many people do when they get rich."
- Jobs did meet his biological father, who once ran a restaurant in
Silicon Valley. But Jobs never revealed to his father who he was. "I
was in that restaurant once or twice and I remember meeting the owner
who was from Syria," Jobs said on tape. "And it was most certainly [my
father]. And I shook his hand and he shook my hand. And that's all."
- Jobs's cancer was discovered accidentally while he was being checked
for kidney stones in 2004. A cat scan revealed a malignant tumor in his
pancreas. Jobs delayed the operation for its removal for nine months
while he tried a number of natural remedies first. By the time it was
operated on, the cancer had spread to tissues around the pancreas.
Isaacson says he believes Jobs regretted the delay.
- Through 2008, Jobs continued to receive secret cancer treatment even
though he was telling everyone he had been cured. The cancer had spread
to his liver by this time.
- In the last two-and-a-half years of his life, Jobs no longer wanted
to go out or travel, but wanted to focus on the products he was
building at Apple: namely, the iPhone and iPad. "I think he would've
loved to have conquered television [as well]," says Isaacson. "He would
love to make an easy-to-use television set. … But he started focusing
on his family again as well. And it was a painful brutal struggle. And
he would talk, often to me about the pain."
- Jobs occasionally brought up the subject of death in their last
meetings. "I saw my life as an arc and that it would end and compared
to that nothing mattered," Jobs said in a taped interview. "You're born
alone, you're going to die alone. And does anything else really matter?
I mean what is it exactly is it that you have to lose Steve? You know?
There's nothing."
- Jobs also said he began believing in the existence of God "a bit
more." "Maybe it's 'cause I want to believe in an afterlife. That when
you die, it doesn't just all disappear. The wisdom you've accumulated.
Somehow it lives on," Jobs said on tape. He paused before he continued,
"Yeah, but sometimes I think it's just like an on-off switch. Click and
you're gone. And that's why I don't like putting on-off switches on
Apple devices."
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Order Apple parts?

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:56 pm (PDT)



I want to order a spare part for my new 2011 mini. (The round black
plastic bottom access cover.)

Any idea where I can find the p/n and/or price? How about someone who
will sell it to me?

So far, the few I've contacted say that they will only sell a part if
there is labor associated with it (ie, if they replace the part.)

Thanks,
Dave
--
2011 Mac mini 2.7 GHz i7 / 4 GB / 750 GB
OS X 10.7.2

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