10/22/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8506

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1a.

Re: Ethernet Splitter

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:40 am (PDT)



In the UK at least, cable ISPs* tend to give you a cable modem, to which you
can connect any router, although there may now be routers with a cable modem
built-in. Routers with built-in DSL modems have always been available,
though. I also have never seen a router with both types of modem.

*I think there's only one in the UK now: Virgin Media.

Otto

On 22 October 2011 03:25, Don <y-groups.96705@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> Daly
>
> Your internet connection, whether DSL or Cable, is not Ethernet or WiFi.
> You need a device that converts from your ISP's hardware protocol to
> Ethernet and/or WiFi. This device is a Modulator/Demodulator [Modem]. In
> the S_L_O_W dialup phone-line days these were standalone devices. They have
> now been incorporated into routers.
>
> The average home "router" includes: Modem, IP address assignment [DHCP],
> Firewall, Network Address Translation [NAT], Switch, Wireless hub.
>
> Routers typically have five ethernet ports. If that is enough you don't
> need a switch. If you need more you can hang a switch on every port on the
> router.
>
> I have used DSL routers & Cable routers. I have not seen a router that
> supports both though they may exist.
>
> Don at 21.9N 159.6W
> retired network & systems administrator at Blockbuster Video
> Mac Pro 2-2.93 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
> OS X 10.7.1
> 6GB Ram
>

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Re: Ethernet Splitter

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:49 pm (PDT)



Don wrote:

>
> Don at 21.9N 159.6W

Must be somewhere in the Hawai'ian Islands...

LOVE Hawaii!

keith <=== whose favorite is N.W. Maui.

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Re: Ethernet Splitter

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:18 pm (PDT)



On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Don wrote:

> Your internet connection, whether DSL or Cable, is not Ethernet or WiFi. You need a device that converts from your ISP's hardware protocol to Ethernet and/or WiFi. This device is a Modulator/Demodulator [Modem]. In the S_L_O_W dialup phone-line days these were standalone devices. They have now been incorporated into routers.
>
> The average home "router" includes: Modem, IP address assignment [DHCP], Firewall, Network Address Translation [NAT], Switch, Wireless hub.
>
> Routers typically have five ethernet ports. If that is enough you don't need a switch. If you need more you can hang a switch on every port on the router.
>
> I have used DSL routers & Cable routers. I have not seen a router that supports both though they may exist.

You are so right. I wrote a stupid post. I have a cable modem connected by ethernet to an Airport Extreme router. I have a regular hub connected by ethernet cable to a port on the Airport Extreme. What I should have said was that when I have to replace the hub, I should probably replace it with a switch instead of a hub.

My router, the Airport Extreme, is doing a fine job.

I apologize for wasting your time.

Daly
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Have pictures on my iPhone - need to transfer to Mac

Posted by: "Metaksa Tanya" tanya.metaksa@att.net   tanya.metaksa@att.net

Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:25 pm (PDT)




My daughter sent me pictures from her iPhone by attaching them to a text message. How do I get them from the phone to the mac book pro?

TIA,
Tanya
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Re: Have pictures on my iPhone - need to transfer to Mac

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:52 pm (PDT)



They should sync back to your computer or if you're concerned email the photo to yourself and open it on the computer.

Sent from my iPad

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> My daughter sent me pictures from her iPhone by attaching them to a text message. How do I get them from the phone to the mac book pro?
>
> TIA,
> Tanya
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Freezing cursor

Posted by: "hester reik" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:03 am (PDT)



Gurus,

Periodically after my macbook pro has been asleep for a while (>1 hour)
after I wake it up, the cursor will be frozen. A restart fixes the issue. Is
there anything I can do to avoid this and/or does anyone know what the issue
could be?

(mid-2010, 13" Intel core 2 duo, 4GB memory, 1.07 GHz bus speed)

Thanks in advance.

hester

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Re: Freezing cursor

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:18 am (PDT)



Howdy.

Do you have any external devices connected when this happens? Any
external HD connected? Other external devices?

What version of Mac OS X exactly is installed?

Denver Dan

On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:03:46 -0400, hester reik wrote:
> Periodically after my macbook pro has been asleep for a while (>1 hour)
> after I wake it up, the cursor will be frozen. A restart fixes the issue. Is
> there anything I can do to avoid this and/or does anyone know what the issue
> could be?
>
> (mid-2010, 13" Intel core 2 duo, 4GB memory, 1.07 GHz bus speed)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> hester

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Re: Freezing cursor

Posted by: "hester" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:57 am (PDT)





Hi Dan,

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have an external HD connected at all times. I have a Newer Technology drive for my time machine back ups and another larger capacity NT for my weekly super duper back ups. I switch them out the evening b/f my weekly SD back up. Only the smaller capacity HD is connected when this happens. I am using OS X 10.6.8

hester

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@...> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Do you have any external devices connected when this happens? Any
> external HD connected? Other external devices?
>
> What version of Mac OS X exactly is installed?
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:03:46 -0400, hester reik wrote:
> > Periodically after my macbook pro has been asleep for a while (>1 hour)
> > after I wake it up, the cursor will be frozen. A restart fixes the issue. Is
> > there anything I can do to avoid this and/or does anyone know what the issue
> > could be?
> >
> > (mid-2010, 13" Intel core 2 duo, 4GB memory, 1.07 GHz bus speed)
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > hester
>

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Re: Freezing cursor

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:08 am (PDT)



Howdy.

Hester, sometimes external HDs don't like to cooperate with the Sleep
feature. Or, an external HD might have its own but separate sleep
feature and this may not cooperate with the Mac OS X sleep feature.

Hard to know, however.

You should try disconnecting the external hard drive and then see if
the same problem still happens.

Be sure to first dismount the external HDs drive icon by ejecting it or
dragging to Trash (same thing) before disconnecting the cable and
shutting it down.

If that doesn't help, then you might try the standard troubleshooting
routines of Safe Disk boot, Repair Disk Permissions, and Delete cache
files.

Denver Dan

On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:57:29 +0000, hester wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have an external HD connected at all
> times. I have a Newer Technology drive for my time machine back ups
> and another larger capacity NT for my weekly super duper back ups. I
> switch them out the evening b/f my weekly SD back up. Only the
> smaller capacity HD is connected when this happens. I am using OS X
> 10.6.8
>
> hester

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Re: Cell Phone Provider Coverage Question

Posted by: "Henry Kalir" kalirhe@umdnj.edu   snookey1000

Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:30 am (PDT)



I find it amazing that in Connecticut, a small and relatively populated state, there would be immense holes in cell network coverage for AT&T!! They (AT&T) did not seem concerned at all when I called them from a borrowed VERIZON cell phone in rural Eastern CT to complain about this. I guess the problem would only be solved once another "Iridium Project" takes off (satellite phone reception).

Best,

Henry

On 10/21/11, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Howdy.
>
> Colorado is almost the size of Germany and the entire west half is
> mountains so signal depends on where you are.  Denver to the Kansas
> line is pretty flat.  Good signal.  I even had good signal on my ATT
> cell in Teller County (county seat is Cripple Creek) - most of Teller
> County is above 8,500 feet in altitude and all mountains. 
>
> Wyoming is the size of Colorado but has the smallest population of all
> 50 states so cell coverage where there are fewer than 500,000 people in
> a vast space can be sparse.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:28:49 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > Dan, I find it interesting that you had good signal in Colorado. I
> > moved there for work and was lucky to get a signal about half the
> > time. That was with both and iPhone 3GS on contract and a Palm Treo
> > on a pay as you go.  Worse coverage and signal strength I have every
> > had.
> >
> > I had great signal and coverage in Portland, Oregon with the Treo on
> > both post and pre-paid, and when traveling for work, if the
> > population was over a 200 per square mile. Same with the iPhone.
> >
> > Now, if you had problems with getting a signal near San Simeon, then
> > you were probably in a valley in the coastal mountains. Remember it
> > is ground based cellular, not satellite.
> >
> > I have used both cellphones while traveling for work to "wide spots
> > in the road" and Verizon had about 2% more coverage, but again, when
> > the population is below 200 per square mile, don't expect a signal.
> > Except in Colorado and southern Wyoming, those are the two biggest
> > black holes I have ever seen.
> >
> > Brent
> >
>
>
>
>

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Re: Cell Phone Provider Coverage Question

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:18 am (PDT)



I understand that AT&T coverage is generally not as good as Verizon
coverage here in CT. Living in North Central CT, that's one of the
reasons I waited for Verizon to sell the iPhone before buying. You
should understand, though, that a substantial portion of northeastern
CT has a population density of only 50-250 people per square mile (go
here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
File:Connecticut_population_map.png). Cell coverage in that portion
of the state, except along the interstate highway corridors, probably
suffers from sparse cell tower coverage.

............Mike

On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:e30 AM, Henry Kalir wrote:

> I find it amazing that in Connecticut, a small and relatively
> populated state, there would be immense holes in cell network
> coverage for AT&T!! They (AT&T) did not seem concerned at all when I
> called them from a borrowed VERIZON cell phone in rural Eastern CT
> to complain about this. I guess the problem would only be solved
> once another "Iridium Project" takes off (satellite phone reception).
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Henry
>
>
> On 10/21/11, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Colorado is almost the size of Germany and the entire west half is
>> mountains so signal depends on where you are. Denver to the Kansas
>> line is pretty flat. Good signal. I even had good signal on my ATT
>> cell in Teller County (county seat is Cripple Creek) - most of Teller
>> County is above 8,500 feet in altitude and all mountains.
>>
>> Wyoming is the size of Colorado but has the smallest population of
>> all
>> 50 states so cell coverage where there are fewer than 500,000
>> people in
>> a vast space can be sparse.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:28:49 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
>>> Dan, I find it interesting that you had good signal in Colorado. I
>>> moved there for work and was lucky to get a signal about half the
>>> time. That was with both and iPhone 3GS on contract and a Palm Treo
>>> on a pay as you go. Worse coverage and signal strength I have every
>>> had.
>>>
>>> I had great signal and coverage in Portland, Oregon with the Treo on
>>> both post and pre-paid, and when traveling for work, if the
>>> population was over a 200 per square mile. Same with the iPhone.
>>>
>>> Now, if you had problems with getting a signal near San Simeon, then
>>> you were probably in a valley in the coastal mountains. Remember it
>>> is ground based cellular, not satellite.
>>>
>>> I have used both cellphones while traveling for work to "wide spots
>>> in the road" and Verizon had about 2% more coverage, but again, when
>>> the population is below 200 per square mile, don't expect a signal.
>>> Except in Colorado and southern Wyoming, those are the two biggest
>>> black holes I have ever seen.
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Cell Phone Provider Coverage Question

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:24 am (PDT)



Howdy.

It's important to very specifically check coverage issues before buying
a cell phone or jumping to a new plan or provider particularly on a
continent as big as North America.

I looked at Sprint's claims on 4G cell service a few months ago for
here in the Washington, DC, region. Sprint was doing heavy TV ads for
its 4G service and the speed. The Sprint 4G coverage included only a
tiny area of downtown Washington (city's population is about 550,000)
and zero 4G coverage in Fairfax County in the Virginia suburbs (Fairfax
County population is about 1,100,000).

So the original poster is doing exactly the right thing to ask for
experiences of others.

Denver Dan

On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 11:18:04 -0400, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:
> I understand that AT&T coverage is generally not as good as Verizon
> coverage here in CT. Living in North Central CT, that's one of the
> reasons I waited for Verizon to sell the iPhone before buying. You
> should understand, though, that a substantial portion of northeastern
> CT has a population density of only 50-250 people per square mile (go
> here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> File:Connecticut_population_map.png). Cell coverage in that portion
> of the state, except along the interstate highway corridors, probably
> suffers from sparse cell tower coverage.
>
> ............Mike

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Re: Cell Phone Provider Coverage Question

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:25 am (PDT)



Guess that link got broken. It should be:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Connecticut_population_map.png

.........Mike

On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Michael P. Stupinski wrote:

> I understand that AT&T coverage is generally not as good as Verizon
> coverage here in CT. Living in North Central CT, that's one of the
> reasons I waited for Verizon to sell the iPhone before buying. You
> should understand, though, that a substantial portion of northeastern
> CT has a population density of only 50-250 people per square mile (go
> here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> File:Connecticut_population_map.png). Cell coverage in that portion
> of the state, except along the interstate highway corridors, probably
> suffers from sparse cell tower coverage.
>
> ............Mike
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:e30 AM, Henry Kalir wrote:
>
>> I find it amazing that in Connecticut, a small and relatively
>> populated state, there would be immense holes in cell network
>> coverage for AT&T!! They (AT&T) did not seem concerned at all when I
>> called them from a borrowed VERIZON cell phone in rural Eastern CT
>> to complain about this. I guess the problem would only be solved
>> once another "Iridium Project" takes off (satellite phone reception).
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>> On 10/21/11, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> Colorado is almost the size of Germany and the entire west half is
>>> mountains so signal depends on where you are. Denver to the Kansas
>>> line is pretty flat. Good signal. I even had good signal on my ATT
>>> cell in Teller County (county seat is Cripple Creek) - most of
>>> Teller
>>> County is above 8,500 feet in altitude and all mountains.
>>>
>>> Wyoming is the size of Colorado but has the smallest population of
>>> all
>>> 50 states so cell coverage where there are fewer than 500,000
>>> people in
>>> a vast space can be sparse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:28:49 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
>>>> Dan, I find it interesting that you had good signal in Colorado. I
>>>> moved there for work and was lucky to get a signal about half the
>>>> time. That was with both and iPhone 3GS on contract and a Palm Treo
>>>> on a pay as you go. Worse coverage and signal strength I have
>>>> every
>>>> had.
>>>>
>>>> I had great signal and coverage in Portland, Oregon with the Treo
>>>> on
>>>> both post and pre-paid, and when traveling for work, if the
>>>> population was over a 200 per square mile. Same with the iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> Now, if you had problems with getting a signal near San Simeon,
>>>> then
>>>> you were probably in a valley in the coastal mountains. Remember it
>>>> is ground based cellular, not satellite.
>>>>
>>>> I have used both cellphones while traveling for work to "wide spots
>>>> in the road" and Verizon had about 2% more coverage, but again,
>>>> when
>>>> the population is below 200 per square mile, don't expect a signal.
>>>> Except in Colorado and southern Wyoming, those are the two biggest
>>>> black holes I have ever seen.
>>>>
>>>> Brent
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Cell Phone Provider Coverage Question

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:53 pm (PDT)




Remembering that I said the coverage in Oregon was pretty good, to compare Connecticut's holy coverage to Oregon's, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oregon_population_map_2000.png

If you look at the map, Portland is the large red dot at the top. Remember the state is about 400 miles north to south and 600 miles east to south. There are two major highways, one almost directly south from Portland and the other east from Portland. One quarter of the state has a population of less than 1 per square mile, and most of the rest has anywhere from less than 101 to less than 26 per square mile. Population 3.8 million people, with an area of 98,000 square miles.

While Connecticut has a population of 3.5 million in 5,500 square miles.

Our largest population center is Metro Portland has 2.2 million in 6,700 square miles, larger than all of Connecticut with two-thirds the population. Within the boundaries of Portland city, we go from 35 ft to 1100 feet above sea level. Mt Hood, the highest point in the state is 11,249 ft above sea level, about 100 miles from the Pacific Ocean.

Yet, we have good coverage with AT&T and the other carriers. I just don't expect much coverage when in areas below 26 people per square mile, behind mountains and in valleys.

Your mileage (coverage) may vary.

And not all cellphones capture signal as well as others. I had an early Kyocera smart phone with a Qualcomm chip (inventors of CDMA) from Verizon, that could not get a signal when in sight of the cell tower over the Columbia River. Put the phone in a brown paper bag and it thought it was a PBJ sandwich. You could put the Motorola StarTac in a bank vault and it would find a signal. Thankfully, current phones all have better reception than the Kyocera, but they vary.

Brent

On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Henry Kalir wrote:

> I find it amazing that in Connecticut, a small and relatively populated state, there would be immense holes in cell network coverage for AT&T!! They (AT&T) did not seem concerned at all when I called them from a borrowed VERIZON cell phone in rural Eastern CT to complain about this. I guess the problem would only be solved once another "Iridium Project" takes off (satellite phone reception).
>
> Best,
>
> Henry
>
> On 10/21/11, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy.
> >
> > Colorado is almost the size of Germany and the entire west half is
> > mountains so signal depends on where you are. Denver to the Kansas
> > line is pretty flat. Good signal. I even had good signal on my ATT
> > cell in Teller County (county seat is Cripple Creek) - most of Teller
> > County is above 8,500 feet in altitude and all mountains.
> >
> > Wyoming is the size of Colorado but has the smallest population of all
> > 50 states so cell coverage where there are fewer than 500,000 people in
> > a vast space can be sparse.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 16:28:49 -0700, N.A. Nada wrote:
> > > Dan, I find it interesting that you had good signal in Colorado. I
> > > moved there for work and was lucky to get a signal about half the
> > > time. That was with both and iPhone 3GS on contract and a Palm Treo
> > > on a pay as you go. Worse coverage and signal strength I have every
> > > had.
> > >
> > > I had great signal and coverage in Portland, Oregon

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Re: how to recognize usb flash drive

Posted by: "Frank T" fjt2@mac.com   frankt192

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:13 am (PDT)



It may be just under the HD in the left upper right of the screen.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, titnaw titnaw <titnaw@...> wrote:
>
> Thank You,
> II do not see it on the desktop-- where would it be
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Frank T <fjt2@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > One of the best things about a Mac is when you insert the flash drive the
> > drive will appear on the Desktop for your use.
> >
> > When you stop using the drive you must press Command-E to eject the drive.
> > Don't forget to highlight the drive first.
> >
> >
> > --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "ivan" <pat30@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a flash drive in the usb port but can not find out how to find it
> > on my iMac. Is there a "computer icon like there is on the PC
> > > Learning and having troubles. I will take a class soon but need to
> > explore first
> > > thanks
> > > Pat30
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: how to recognize usb flash drive

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:28 am (PDT)



>>> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "ivan" <pat30@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have a flash drive in the usb port but can not find out how to find it
>>> on my iMac. Is there a "computer icon like there is on the PC
>>>> Learning and having troubles. I will take a class soon but need to
>>> explore first
>>>> thanks
>>>> Pat30

Pat, it should show up on your Desktop as a "disk" icon.
If not, try opening a Finder window (one way to do that is to click the blue "double-face" icon at the left end of the Dock, the strip of icons probably at the bottom of your screen. When you click the Face icon, a Finder window opens.

You ought to see the USB drive listed under "Devices" at the top of the left-hand sidebar of the Finder window.

If you want it to show up on the Desktop as an icon and it isn't, click on your Desktop to be sure you are in the Finder. At the left end of the menu bar, you will see "Finder" (just to the right of the Apple icon itself), which means that your current application IS the Finder. Under the Finder menu, choose Preferences. In the Preferences dialog, choose the "General" tab. Under the General tab, click to put a checkmark next to "External Disks" if it isn't already checked. Then close the Preferences window. Look again on your Desktop to see if the USB drive is showing up.

If none of that works, write and tell us what happened (or didn't happen) instead.

Daly

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Re: Suggestions on a new computer -  iMac or Mac Mini

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:49 pm (PDT)



Don't forget the refurb store. Does not sound like you need the latest and greatest. And your existing machines still have considerable value, especially the G5. Consider selling if you don't need. No question you could give them to someone deserving who does not yet need Lion. Consider checking with non-profits that cater to seniors if you want a tax deduction. Old macs, while not of so much value to the young, are everything a senior might need.

And final thought. Why not give the G5 to the kids and get yourself an iMac? The kids don't need the hassle of a new OS yet, do they?

cheers,
tod

On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I think with the new IOS 5, I'm finally going to have to step up and
> upgrade my G5 tower and my kid's G4 Imac.
>
> I wanted some advice from you all on whether it makes more sense to
> get an Mac mini or an Imac keeping in mind the balance between cost
> and capabilities.
>
> For my tower upgrade, I figure I have a bluetooth keyboard, mouse and
> the 23" Cinema HD
> Display that works well. I have an external Isight camera that I use
> with this. Is there any reason not to get the Mac Mini. I know in
> the past the Mac-mini was targeted at switchers. The tower works fine
> for all my current needs but given that it can't work with all the new
> IOS and cloud software I'm some what forced to upgrade. I'm also
> trying to do so as cheaply as possible.
>
> Same issue with my kids, they are on a IMac 1.25 GHz G4. Complaining
> about the speed of accessing their web-sites and also that it is
> incompatible with some software at their school and with iCloud. I
> have a spare Viewsonic VGA monitor that I figure could be used with a
> Mac Mini though I'm not quite sure if the latest Mac-mini's allow a
> VGA connection of if there is an adaptor. So should I get an Imac to
> replace the kid's current iMac or get a Mac Mini.
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>
> Jay
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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Re: Suggestions on a new computer -  iMac or Mac Mini

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:34 pm (PDT)



Kids need the new OS more than I do. A lot of the stuff they do at
school is on Macs and requires the Lion software. Additionally we all
use a shared calendar through Mobile Me which is being phased out with
iCloud and I think they are not going to support the old PowerPC
architecture on iCloud. I could probably stay with the G5 except for
the iCloud issue.

Jay

On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> And final thought. Why not give the G5 to the kids and get yourself
> an iMac? The kids don't need the hassle of a new OS yet, do they?

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Re: Suggestions on a new computer -  iMac or Mac Mini

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:54 pm (PDT)



On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:

> Kids need the new OS more than I do. A lot of the stuff they do at
> school is on Macs and requires the Lion software. Additionally we all
> use a shared calendar through Mobile Me which is being phased out with
> iCloud and I think they are not going to support the old PowerPC
> architecture on iCloud. I could probably stay with the G5 except for
> the iCloud issue.

Wow! What are they doing at school already that requires Lion? Just curious!

Daly

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Re: Suggestions on a new computer - iMac or Mac Mini

Posted by: "Carol" cjarrett1946@charter.net   carol_2797

Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:25 pm (PDT)



I bought an iMac Mimi last year and I love it. It does everything I need it to do. I use a ViewSonic monitor and I also was able to use my keyboard that I had with my old IBM Lenova. I recently changed to the Mac keyboard since I spilled coffee in the other one and had to buy a replacement.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jim.
>
> It seems though that if you get the equivalent Mini to the base Imac
> model, you pay $799 with a lower speed (5400 rpm vs 7200 rpm) hard
> drive, lower graphics card. Though the mini seems to have a more
> recent Bluetooth standard (4.0 vs 2.1 on the Imac). Given that it is
> only $300 higher and for that you get the monitor, keyboard, mouse and
> I can use my existing monitor as an additional screen, I'm leaning
> toward going with the iMac.
>
> How easy though is it to upgrade memory and change out the hard drive
> on the iMac versus the mini? I've been able to change the memory and
> hard drive on my previous desktops and G4 powerbook though I took the
> iBook to dealer to replace hard-drive.
>
> Jay
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Jim Harry wrote:
>
> > > I wanted some advice from you all on whether it makes more sense to
> > > get an Mac mini or an Imac keeping in mind the balance between cost
> > > and capabilities.
> > >
> > > For my tower upgrade, I figure I have a bluetooth keyboard, mouse
> > and
> > > the 23" Cinema HD
> > > Display that works well. I have an external Isight camera that I use
> > > with this. Is there any reason not to get the Mac Mini. I know in
> > > the past the Mac-mini was targeted at switchers. The tower works
> > fine
> > > for all my current needs but given that it can't work with all the
> > new
> > > IOS and cloud software I'm some what forced to upgrade. I'm also
> > > trying to do so as cheaply as possible.
> > >
> > > Same issue with my kids, they are on a IMac 1.25 GHz G4. Complaining
> > > about the speed of accessing their web-sites and also that it is
> > > incompatible with some software at their school and with iCloud. I
> > > have a spare Viewsonic VGA monitor that I figure could be used
> > with a
> > > Mac Mini though I'm not quite sure if the latest Mac-mini's allow a
> > > VGA connection of if there is an adaptor. So should I get an Imac to
> > > replace the kid's current iMac or get a Mac Mini.
> > >
> >
> > I think the Mini would fit both of your needs quite nicely. I think
> > it will
> > allow you to hook up to a VGA monitor via a DVI to VGA adapter.
> >
> > Or... you could buy yourself a new iMac 27" and give the kids your 23"
> > monitor and decide who gets your keyboard mouse and the ones that
> > come with
> > the iMac. :)
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: Suggestions on a new computer - iMac or Mac Mini

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:36 pm (PDT)



Carol,

I have an old ViewSonic as well. Did you have to buy a DVI cable to
use it with the iMac. The one I have has a DVI port and a VGA port
but came with a VGA cable. Used to use with an old G3 I had.

Thanks

Jay
On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Carol wrote:

> I bought an iMac Mimi last year and I love it. It does everything I
> need it to do. I use a ViewSonic monitor and I also was able to use
> my keyboard that I had with my old IBM Lenova. I recently changed to
> the Mac keyboard since I spilled coffee in the other one and had to
> buy a replacement.

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dlete contacts in email

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:16 pm (PDT)



Thanks to a friend finding a web page that gave me a hint where to start for
importing my gmail contacts into my ipad email, that is now done.

I have another problem. How does one delete contacts from the ipad email.
The new is seems to have dumped manyy, many email addresses of epople that I
simply don't know. How can I get rid of them?

Jeannie

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Airport

Posted by: "julienmark2002" shellsiv@gmail.com   julienmark2002

Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:15 pm (PDT)



I use ATT DSL and using 10.6.8 system for my Macintosh. We have two laptops and an android phone using the airport base for internet. It keeps going out and the internet keeps kicking out. It still shows green light but I have to put it in and out of surge protector. Is it my DSL connection or the Airport base is worn out? Please let me know what alternatives I need to do to get this working like before. Thanks in advance :)

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Re: Airport

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:58 pm (PDT)



Short answer from what you have give us to work with, could be.

When you loose the internet, can you devices communicate by WiFi between each other? That will tell you if it is your ISP or the Airport.

If power cycling, the Airport and the DSL modem returns the internet, then it is your DSL modem or your ISP.

Brent

On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:15 PM, julienmark2002 wrote:

> I use ATT DSL and using 10.6.8 system for my Macintosh. We have two laptops and an android phone using the airport base for internet. It keeps going out and the internet keeps kicking out. It still shows green light but I have to put it in and out of surge protector. Is it my DSL connection or the Airport base is worn out? Please let me know what alternatives I need to do to get this working like before. Thanks in advance :)

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Re: Airport

Posted by: "julienmark2002" shellsiv@gmail.com   julienmark2002

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:10 pm (PDT)



Thanks for your reply to my post. If I try to IM each computer or internet on phone it wont work. How can I find out if it's the ISP and/or modem. The DSL modem was supplied by AT&T. When I pull the Airport base out and put back it starts up fine again.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
>
> Short answer from what you have give us to work with, could be.
>
> When you loose the internet, can you devices communicate by WiFi between each other? That will tell you if it is your ISP or the Airport.
>
> If power cycling, the Airport and the DSL modem returns the internet, then it is your DSL modem or your ISP.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:15 PM, julienmark2002 wrote:
>
> > I use ATT DSL and using 10.6.8 system for my Macintosh. We have two laptops and an android phone using the airport base for internet. It keeps going out and the internet keeps kicking out. It still shows green light but I have to put it in and out of surge protector. Is it my DSL connection or the Airport base is worn out? Please let me know what alternatives I need to do to get this working like before. Thanks in advance :)
>

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