10/27/2011

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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Megan McHugh" ratziem@yahoo.com   ratziem

Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:01 am (PDT)



Well... at least Steve Jobs' Mac products are now so accessible for people who are blind / low vision, that we can use them off the shelf as opposed to having to add on expensive screen readers / magnifiers. Can't say that for Bill Gates' Microsoft products.

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> From: talk@signifydesign.com <talk@signifydesign.com>
> Subject: Re: [macsupport] OT: Screed about Steve Jobs
> To: "Harry Flaxman" <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>, macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 2:22 AM
> I also found myself getting into it
> with a friend, who shared an anti-Jobs blog post on her
> Facebook page. The writer dismissed Jobs as "just a
> capitalist," and said, in effect, that since Gates had
> established a giant foundation, Jobs's work meant nothing in
> comparison. While I agreed that anyone who finds colossal
> proserity should do something significant, I tried to point
> out that Gates is a bigger capitalist, and that it was a
> kind of robber baron career that earned him such wealth.
> Somehow that point never got acknowledged.
>
> Steve did not have a uniformly wonderful personality, but
> his inventions have contributed a lot to humanity.
>
> Thanks for the comments you posted,
> Nicky
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> From: "Harry Flaxman" <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>
> Date: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 09:43
> Subject: [macsupport] OT: Screed about Steve Jobs
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> On 10/26/2011 8:41 AM, hester reik wrote:
> > Today's NY times has a horrible harangue about Jobs by
> the ever nasty
> > Maureen Dowd. I was so po'ed I wrote a LTE. It lies
> below
> >
> > To the Editor:
> >> >  Ms. Dowd's op-ed piece in today's paper
> was unusually nasty, even for her.
> >> >  What was the point in publishing such a
> diatribe? Mr. Jobs was a terribly
> >> >  flawed human being, like every other
> one on the face of the earth. His
> >> >  enormous contributions makes his
> imperfections more poignant and tragic,
> >> >  especially since they might have
> shortened his incredibly productive life.
> >> >
> >> >  The nits Ms. Dowd picks highlight her
> own skewed perspective as well as
> >> >  doing your paper a huge disservice.
> >> >
>
> Well said Hester!
>
> Thank you.  I will go and read the 'article' now and
> write a comment or
> 'letter to the editor' pertaining to it.  I'm sure
> it's nasty enough,
> considering the source!
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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Rob Frankel" rob@robfrankel.com   robfrankeldotcom

Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:55 am (PDT)



At 2:22 AM -0400 10/27/11, Nicky wrote thusly:
>I also found myself getting into it with a friend, who shared an
>anti-Jobs blog post on her Facebook page. The writer dismissed Jobs
>as "just a capitalist," and said, in effect, that since Gates had
>established a giant foundation, Jobs's work meant nothing in
>comparison. While I agreed that anyone who finds colossal proserity
>should do something significant, I tried to point out that Gates is
>a bigger capitalist, and that it was a kind of robber baron career
>that earned him such wealth. Somehow that point never got
>acknowledged.
>
>Steve did not have a uniformly wonderful personality, but his
>inventions have contributed a lot to humanity.
>

Since when does a successful person have to be a saint? This
politically correct generation is the first to get lost in minutiae
while losing the big picture. History will remember Henry Ford more
for his automotive contributions than his well-published tracts on
anti-semitism. The man was a raging racist, but he built a huge
empire that had even greater impact on society than did Jobs, by
essentially enabling a mobile society.

What's the value in dissecting these personal aspects of character?

It's interesting to see that when you step away from the whole
Jobs/Apple thing, the most admirable quality isn't the operating
system, the machines or company; it's the fact that one man's vision
can still overcome corporate inertia and win.

Personally, I'm a big fan of "one man against the system" stories.
When I watch movies about clever prison escapes, I always root for
the inmate that outthinks the system to win back his liberty -- often
forgetting that what got the guy into the can in the first place was
murder or robbery.

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Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:18 pm (PDT)



i was going to say, this is a bit OT, Jim. but, then, that would be hypocritical, wouldn't it?
except in extreme cases.

But, btw, we ALL have a dark side.
doug
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The resistance to the unpleasant situation is the root of suffering.
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On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

>> I feel the same. He did have a dark side. Don't most people of genius? Think of the other artists in history, many were quite batty in one way or another. It seems to come with the territory.
>> Terry
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> If you learn of a dark side to Richard Feynman, Carl Sagan, Leonardo daVinci - let me know.
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Apple issues updates fixing iPhoto, QuickTime, Lion Recovery and Thu

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:37 am (PDT)



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/aj4yMrpAmVE/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple issues updates
fixing iPhoto, QuickTime, Lion Recovery and Thunderbolt Mac issues via
9to5Mac by Christian Zibreg on 10/27/11



Apple late yesterday released half a dozen updates addressing issues
with iPhoto, QuickTime for Windows, Lion Internet Recovery and
Thunderbolt on Mac computers. The iPhoto 9.2.1 update fixed unexpected
quits caused by the 3ivxVIdeoCodec plug-in while QuickTime 7.7.1 for
Windows squashed a number of security flaws allowing maliciously
crafted movie files to compromise your Windows box. 9to5Mac recently
reported of displeasing Thunderbolt-related issues causing random
blanking out of an attached Apple Thunderbolt Display.

Apple fixed these, too, while improving reliability of Thunderbolt
Target Disk Mode performance. Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI)
updates also addressed problems with Lion Recovery from an Internet
connection. Thunderbolt updates are available by choosing Software
Update from the Mac menu, unlike the updated iPhoto which is deployed
via the Mac App Store client. Release notes after the break…


iPhoto 9.2.1 [357.18MB]
What’s New in iPhoto 9.2.1
Addresses an issue that could cause iPhoto to quit unexpectedly on Macs
with the 3ivxVideoCodec plug-in installed

Included in version 9.2

Addresses compatibility with iCloud and iOS 5
Left and right swipe gestures can now be used to navigate between
photos in Magnify (1-up) view
Previously imported photos are now displayed in a separate section of
the Import window
Book/calendar themes and card categories can now be selected using a
pop-up menu in the carousel view
Resolves an issue that could cause some pages of books to print
incorrectly
Rebuilding a library now correctly preserves saved slideshows and books
This update is recommended for all users of iPhoto ’11.
QuickTime for Windows 7.7.1 [37.58MB]
QuickTime 7.7.1 improves security and is recommended for all QuickTime
7 users on Windows. For information on the security content of this
update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222.
MacBook Air EFI Firmware Update 2.2 [4MB]
This update fixes several issues to improve the stability of MacBook
Air (mid 2011) computers and is recommended for all users.

This update includes fixes delivered in MacBook Air EFI Firmware Update
2.1 that enhance the stability of Lion Recovery from an Internet
connection, and resolve issues with Apple Thunderbolt Display
compatibility and Thunderbolt Target Disk Mode performance on MacBook
Air (mid 2011) models.

The MacBook Air EFI Update will update the EFI firmware on your
notebook computer. Your computer’s power cord must be connected and
plugged into a working power source. When your MacBook Air restarts, a
gray screen will appear with a status bar to indicate the progress of
the update. It will take several minutes for the update to complete. Do
not disturb or shut off the power on your MacBook Air during this
update.

Boot ROM or SMC Version Information: After MacBook Air update has
successfully completed, your Boot ROM Version will be
MBA41.88Z.0077.B0E.1110141154
Macbook Pro EFI Firmware Update 2.3 [4.17MB]
This update fixes several issues to improve the stability of MacBook
Pro (early 2011) computers and is recommended for all users.

This update includes improvements delivered in MacBook Pro EFI Firmware
Update 2.2 that enables Lion Internet Recovery from an Internet
connection, resolves issues with Apple Thunderbolt Display
compatibility and Thunderbolt Target Disk Mode performance on MacBook
Pro (early 2011) models.

The MacBook Pro EFI Update will update the EFI firmware on your
notebook computer. Your computer’s power cord must be connected and
plugged into a working power source. When your MacBook Pro restarts, a
gray screen will appear with a status bar to indicate the progress of
the update. It will take several minutes for the update to complete. Do
not disturb or shut off the power on your MacBook Pro during this
update.

Boot ROM or SMC Version Information: After MacBook Pro update has
successfully completed, your Boot ROM Version will be
MBP81.88Z.0047.B24.1110141131
iMac EFI Update 1.7 [3.69MB]
This update enables Lion Recovery from an Internet connection and
includes fixes that resolve issues with Apple Thunderbolt Display
compatibility and Thunderbolt Target Disk Mode performance on iMac
(early 2011) models.

For more information about Lion Recovery, please visit
http://www.apple.com/macosx/recovery/.

The iMac EFI Update will update the EFI firmware on your iMac computer.
When your iMac restarts, a gray screen will appear with a status bar to
indicate the progress of the update. It will take several minutes for
the update to complete. Do not disturb or shut off the power on your
iMac during this update.

Boot ROM or SMC Version Information: After iMac EFIupdate has
successfully completed, your Boot ROM Version will be
IM121.88Z.0047.B1D.1110171110
Mac mini EFI Firmware Update 1.4 [4.01MB]
This update fixes several issues to improve the stability of Mac mini
(mid 2011) computers and is recommended for all users.

This update includes fixes delivered in Mac mini EFI Firmware Update
1.3 that enhance the stability of Lion Recovery from an Internet
connection, and resolve issues with Apple Thunderbolt Display
compatibility and Thunderbolt Target Disk Mode performance on Mac Mini
(mid 2011) models.

The Mac mini EFI Update will update the EFI firmware on your Mac mini
computer. When your Mac mini restarts, a gray screen will appear with a
status bar to indicate the progress of the update. It will take several
minutes for the update to complete. Do not disturb or shut off the
power on your Mac mini during this update.

Boot ROM or SMC Version Information: After Mac mini update has
successfully completed, your Boot ROM Version will be
MM51.88Z.0077.B0E.1110141154




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Sanity check on advice related to HP 6200 series printer

Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil

Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:58 am (PDT)



Hello,

I was asked to provide advice recently on a HP 6200 printer. The advice I
suggested was to update the drivers. Is there a better or more efficient
method?

I did not see the configurations in person and the problem statement is from
memory. I know it is not Lion. It is either Leopard or Snow Leopard. I can
acquire more details if necessary.

The Problem: There are 2 printers connected to a Macbook air. One [HP 7XXX
series] is in an office in NJ. The other is in an office in the FL and is the
6200 that is causing trouble [will not print].

The Macbook Air was updated by Apple store personnel in NJ and prints using
the 7XXX series printer. Then the Macbook Air was subsequently updated in FL
by Apple store personnel. After the southeast upgrade the 6200 ceased
printing.

My advice was to update drivers as stated above. Just doing a sanity check on
the advice.

Lastly, the Macbook Air owner is thinking of getting a new printer.
Suggestions are welcome.

John F. Richardson

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Wanted ENET thin coax->RJ45 adapter

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:28 am (PDT)



When I search for these or BNC->RJ45, I come up with a lot of stuff for video. Can anyone suggest a product? BNC should be male.

I now have it on a hub with a BNC plus a splitter with one end terminated. I assume I would still have to terminate the coax side, if I can find an adapter to RJ45.

TIA,

Bill
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Re: Wanted ENET thin coax->RJ45 adapter

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:07 am (PDT)



Howdy.

MacMall and other online retail places will have coax cables and
terminator plugs and BNC based networking items and RJ45 to coax
adapters. I think the cost seems to be going up for coax things.

<http://www.macmall.com>

For an excellent online source for high quality cables and connectors
of all kinds, check into Blue Jeans Cable. In addition the Blue Jeans
Cable web site has interesting and extra and good info on cabling
issues, networking issues, that can be very helpful.

Blue Jeans has a section just for adapters of all kinds.

<http://www.bluejeanscable.com/index.htm>

Look at some of the Beldon type cables or Beldon rated cabling if you
want a product that IMO is extra trustworthy, made to high standards,
and high quality requirements. Beldon is a company that began in 1902
and is known for quality products but often used by industry groups
like the old US Bell System which installed phone products designed to
last for decades and not for a year or two.

Denver Dan

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:27:40 -0500, Bill B. wrote:
> When I search for these or BNC->RJ45, I come up with a lot of stuff
> for video. Can anyone suggest a product? BNC should be male.
>
> I now have it on a hub with a BNC plus a splitter with one end
> terminated. I assume I would still have to terminate the coax side,
> if I can find an adapter to RJ45.
>
> TIA,
>
> Bill
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Re: Wanted ENET thin coax->RJ45 adapter

Posted by: "Dane Reugger" dane@downtownpc.com   dar2112

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:12 am (PDT)



I haven't seen thinnet in a decade or so but it sounds like you are
looking for a media converter -

Maybe something like -
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=6316

-Dane

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:
> When I search for these or BNC->RJ45, I come up with a lot of stuff for video. Can anyone suggest a product? BNC should be male.
>
> I now have it on a hub with a BNC plus a splitter with one end terminated. I assume I would still have to terminate the coax side, if I can find an adapter to RJ45.
>
> TIA,
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Re: Wanted ENET thin coax->RJ45 adapter

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:21 am (PDT)



On 10/27/2011 1:07 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Blue Jeans has a section just for adapters of all kinds.
>
> <http://www.bluejeanscable.com/index.htm>

Looked here, but it reminded me that I"m looking for an outlet that has
the mini TOSlink audio adapters for most of the desktop digital audio
out ports.

Have you found any Dan?

Harry

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Re: Wanted ENET thin coax->RJ45 adapter

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:51 am (PDT)



Howdy.

Try MacMall. I'm not knowledgeable on TOSlink at all but MacMall has
TOSlink and mini TOSlink items available.

Some items like this tend to not be in stock but have to be ordered.

Also try Amazon.com.

Denver Dan

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:21:46 -0400, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> Looked here, but it reminded me that I"m looking for an outlet that has
> the mini TOSlink audio adapters for most of the desktop digital audio
> out ports.
>
> Have you found any Dan?
>
> Harry

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Where does Word 2008 store its Autotext database?

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:12 am (PDT)



I want to keep Autotext entries in synch over several computers, but cannot find where Word 2008 keeps the data.

Does anyone know where this is stored?

Thanks,

Bill
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MPEG-2 video component?

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:31 am (PDT)



I'm using MPEG Streamclip and attempting to export to DVD video from
.avi files.

I see no option for DVD (MPEG-2) format export, and in the manual for
Streamclip it says that this format is dependent on the Apple MPEG-2
QT component.

I have a faint memory of having purchased this a few years ago, and a
disk search turned up this:

AppleMPEG2Codec.component

in the Library>Quicktime folder.

Is this the component that is required? (Get Info says it's version
1.0.2) Why does not Streamclip recognize it?

Thanks,
Dave

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iCloud problems

Posted by: "Metaksa Tanya" tanya.metaksa@att.net   tanya.metaksa@att.net

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:44 am (PDT)



I set up my iCloud user account and password with a new username. Now after having it work I got a message that it couldn't sync,
Thinking my password wasn't correct, I went on iCloud on my iPhone 3S and changed the password.
I changed the password on my iPhone and on my iCal, but I am still getting this message:

Access to account "hotbaba1937@me.com" is not permitted.

The server responded:
"HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden"
to operation CalDAVAccountRefreshQueueableOperation.

Can anyone help?

TIA

Tanya Metaksa
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Re: Spotlight: last modified column

Posted by: "Metaksa Tanya" tanya.metaksa@gmail.com   tmetaksa@att.net

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:59 am (PDT)



Thanks for a great tip
Tanya
On Oct 26, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Patsy Price wrote:

> I said:
> >I almost always need a column for last modified. Occasionally I also
> >want last created. I understand there's some way to adjust view
> >options. How?
>
> I found it! But it took a long time, and lots of dead ends.
>
> After I did a Spotlight search, Command-J brought up a window where I
> could tell Spotlight which columns I do and don't want displayed. And
> the change has stuck!
>
> Patsy
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Re: iphone noob - resources?

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:16 pm (PDT)



Howdy.

Start by downloading the iPhone PDF manual. A bunch of nifty tips in
it.

<http://support.apple.com/manuals/#iphone>

A lot of folks here have an iPhone. I'm on my 2nd. Haven't got the
iPhone 4S yet.

Denver Dan

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:47:02 -0400, Jurgen Richter wrote:
> Just joined this century and got an iPhone 4s - nice!!! shame about a 36
> month contract though, but the last phone was not used much and on a
> usurous "plan" with few benefits except to the provider.
> Anyhoo, I tinkered with it for a couple of days, but have some tech
> questions that many of you would consider basic. Just wondering if you
> can recommend another yahoo group, a good book (is there an "iphone for
> dummies"?) and whether this is on topic for THIS group, or if I should
> save my questions for the genius bar at my local Apple store... in the
> meantime I'll make a list of my questions that are inconclusively
> answered by searching the web.
> Cheers
>

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iPhone ear bud Recommendations?

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:20 pm (PDT)



Howdy.

I need to get someone a new iPhone ear bud set. the guy has gone
through about 6 of them in the past 12 months I'd guess. He uses them
daily and then wraps them tightly and stuffs in a pocket at work.

I almost never use ear buds so my couple of sets have been "borrowed"
and . . . . . done in -- like the others.

Any suggestions for good quality, durable, long lasting ear buds?

Ones with good sound? That don't fall apart?

Denver Dan

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Re: iPhone ear bud Recommendations?

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:29 pm (PDT)



Hi Dan,
I use v-moda that are red. I use them every day on my Itouch, and also on
my Ipad if I have to l.isten to something. They have buttons up near the top
that I can use to pause, or make louder or softer.

i had an older model V -moda that i used for years, but they wouldn't work
on the ipad..just the itouch, and didn't have those controls. Hubie is using
them for his itouch.

There are many cheaper brands, but this brand is the only one that doesn't
hurt my ears and doesn't fall out. They come with several size tips.

Jeannie

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> I need to get someone a new iPhone ear bud set. the guy has gone
> through about 6 of them in the past 12 months I'd guess. He uses them
> daily and then wraps them tightly and stuffs in a pocket at work.
>
> I almost never use ear buds so my couple of sets have been "borrowed"
> and . . . . . done in -- like the others.
>
> Any suggestions for good quality, durable, long lasting ear buds?
>
> Ones with good sound? That don't fall apart?
>
> Denver Dan
>
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Re: iPhone ear bud Recommendations?

Posted by: "Rob Frankel" rob@robfrankel.com   robfrankeldotcom

Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:35 pm (PDT)



At 4:20 PM -0400 10/27/11, Denver Dan wrote thusly:
>Howdy.
>
>I need to get someone a new iPhone ear bud set. the guy has gone
>through about 6 of them in the past 12 months I'd guess. He uses them
>daily and then wraps them tightly and stuffs in a pocket at work.
>
>I almost never use ear buds so my couple of sets have been "borrowed"
>and . . . . . done in -- like the others.
>
>Any suggestions for good quality, durable, long lasting ear buds?
>
>Ones with good sound? That don't fall apart?
>
>Denver Dan
>

I'm a Klipsch.com man, myself. Awesome sound, durable. Especially
the "rugged" models that feature remotes on the wire.

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Re: iPhone ear bud Recommendations?

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:44 pm (PDT)




On Oct 27, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Any suggestions for good quality, durable, long lasting ear buds?
>
> Ones with good sound?

Have a look at:

Cut-the-Crap iPhone Headset Battlemodo

http://gizmodo.com/5039819/cut+the+crap-iphone-headset-battlemodo

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10a.

iPhone "cover"

Posted by: "chemist_ken" chemist_ken@yahoo.com   chemist_ken

Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:59 pm (PDT)



I'm looking to buy a clear plastic cover to protect the screen of my iPhone 4.
Any suggestions ae welcome!

Ken

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10b.

Re: iPhone "cover"

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:25 pm (PDT)



> I'm looking to buy a clear plastic cover to protect the screen of my iPhone 4.
> Any suggestions ae welcome!
> Ken

My suggestion is: none.

Unless you like to keep it in a pocket with diamond rings you haven't sold yet, or some such.

The Gorilla Glass front that you wold be protecting is harder and more durable than anything you could put over it to "protect" it, and the oleophobic coating sheds skin oils very nicely.

I occasionally wipe mine on the front of my t-shirt, and after 15 months it looks like new.

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10c.

Re: iPhone "cover"

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:59 pm (PDT)




On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:10 PM, chemist_ken wrote:

> I'm looking to buy a clear plastic cover to protect the screen of
> my iPhone 4.
> Any suggestions ae welcome!

You don't need one. Which is why Apple stopped selling them.

However, you may want a protective sleeve or carrying case. This is
my favorite company for those sorts of things:

http://www.eforcity.com

http://is.gd/mGojXN

I got this skin for only $8:
http://is.gd/kL79jC

and this leather case for $10:
http://is.gd/yCwpWe

I switch off between the two, and both are high quality. You can't
beat the prices.

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Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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11.

2007 Mac Pro USB Wireless adapter

Posted by: "Dane Reugger" dane@downtownpc.com   dar2112

Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:28 pm (PDT)



Anybody have or know of a good USB wireless adapter for an older Mac
Pro - ideally one that uses the Mac wireless client. I've used a few
in the past with mixed results but they all used their own client. I
know that I could install an airport card but that's a serious hassle
from what I remember.

Any advice?

Thanks,
-Dane

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Fwd: [moderatorcentral] Missing messages and more

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:54 pm (PDT)



FYI
in case this has already made the list, please ignore.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

The resistance to the unpleasant situation is the root of suffering.
- - Ram Dass

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> Subject: [moderatorcentral] Missing messages and more
> Date: October 27, 2011 10:33:34 AM PDT
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> Reply-To: moderatorcentral-owner@yahoogroups.com
>
> Several of you have reported issues on the following:
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> -Email Delivery
> -Chat
> -Bounce History
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> Just a quick note that we are aware and we are investigating. Thanks for your patience.
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13.

New Google Chrome Browser

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:24 pm (PDT)



http://download.cnet.com/Google-Chrome/3000-2356_4-75205983.html?tag=nl.e780

just experimenting now.
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net

The resistance to the unpleasant situation is the root of suffering.
- - Ram Dass

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