10/26/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8512

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: hester reik
1b.
Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Henry Kalir
1c.
Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Harry Flaxman
1d.
Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: vixpix
1e.
Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: hester
1f.
Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Terry Pogue
1g.
Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Bekah
1h.
Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs From: Harry Flaxman
2a.
Re: Mac & Parallels From: jamesrob@sonic.net
2b.
Re: Mac & Parallels From: Harry Flaxman
3a.
Re: Spotlight: last modified column From: Patsy Price
4a.
OT-non-iPhone smartphone From: caribsea@bellsouth.net
4b.
Re: OT-non-iPhone smartphone From: Bob Cook
5a.
Re: New MacBook Pros From: Bill B.
5b.
Re: New MacBook Pros From: Bill Boulware
5c.
Re: New MacBook Pros From: Harry Flaxman
5d.
Re: New MacBook Pros From: Bill Boulware
5e.
Re: New MacBook Pros From: Harry Flaxman
5f.
Re: New MacBook Pros From: Bill Boulware
5g.
Re: New MacBook Pros From: Harry Flaxman
6.
Unable to Sync iPhone From: James Johnson
7a.
Re: Password management From: Nick Andriash
8a.
Re: Using Two Firewire 800 WD Studio LX External Drives on one Macbo From: Nick Andriash
9a.
PBS to premiere 'Steve Jobs - One Last Thing' doc on Nov. 2 -- EXCLU From: Bill Boulware
9b.
Re: PBS to premiere 'Steve Jobs - One Last Thing' doc on Nov. 2 -- E From: Harry Flaxman

Messages

1a.

OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "hester reik" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:41 am (PDT)



Today's NY times has a horrible harangue about Jobs by the ever nasty
Maureen Dowd. I was so po'ed I wrote a LTE. It lies below

To the Editor:
> Ms. Dowd's op-ed piece in today's paper was unusually nasty, even for her.
> What was the point in publishing such a diatribe? Mr. Jobs was a terribly
> flawed human being, like every other one on the face of the earth. His
> enormous contributions makes his imperfections more poignant and tragic,
> especially since they might have shortened his incredibly productive life.
>
> The nits Ms. Dowd picks highlight her own skewed perspective as well as
> doing your paper a huge disservice.
>

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1b.

Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Henry Kalir" kalirhe@umdnj.edu   snookey1000

Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:54 am (PDT)



Well said, Hester!

Best,

Henry

On 10/26/11, hester reik <dhreik@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Today's NY times has a horrible harangue about Jobs by the ever nasty
> Maureen Dowd. I was so po'ed I wrote a LTE. It lies below
>
> To the Editor:
> > Ms. Dowd's op-ed piece in today's paper was unusually nasty, even for her.
> > What was the point in publishing such a diatribe? Mr. Jobs was a terribly
> > flawed human being, like every other one on the face of the earth. His
> > enormous contributions makes his imperfections more poignant and tragic,
> > especially since they might have shortened his incredibly productive life.
> >
> > The nits Ms. Dowd picks highlight her own skewed perspective as well as
> > doing your paper a huge disservice.
> >
>
>
>

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1c.

Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:43 am (PDT)



On 10/26/2011 8:41 AM, hester reik wrote:
> Today's NY times has a horrible harangue about Jobs by the ever nasty
> Maureen Dowd. I was so po'ed I wrote a LTE. It lies below
>
> To the Editor:
>> > Ms. Dowd's op-ed piece in today's paper was unusually nasty, even for her.
>> > What was the point in publishing such a diatribe? Mr. Jobs was a terribly
>> > flawed human being, like every other one on the face of the earth. His
>> > enormous contributions makes his imperfections more poignant and tragic,
>> > especially since they might have shortened his incredibly productive life.
>> >
>> > The nits Ms. Dowd picks highlight her own skewed perspective as well as
>> > doing your paper a huge disservice.
>> >

Well said Hester!

Thank you. I will go and read the 'article' now and write a comment or
'letter to the editor' pertaining to it. I'm sure it's nasty enough,
considering the source!

Harry

1d.

Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "vixpix" vixpix@frontiernet.net   nyskater

Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:28 am (PDT)



Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't take it as such an attack. It appears she's just reporting what's in the book, and much of what she wrote was already revealed on 60 Minutes. Yes, it points out his darker side, but that seems to be all the buzz right now anyway.

The article is available online.

Vickie

Sent from a spoiled little iPad

On Oct 26, 2011, at 8:41 AM, hester reik <dhreik@gmail.com> wrote:

> Today's NY times has a horrible harangue about Jobs by the ever nasty
> Maureen Dowd. I was so po'ed I wrote a LTE. It lies below
>
> To the Editor:
>> Ms. Dowd's op-ed piece in today's paper was unusually nasty, even for her.
>> What was the point in publishing such a diatribe? Mr. Jobs was a terribly
>> flawed human being, like every other one on the face of the earth. His
>> enormous contributions makes his imperfections more poignant and tragic,
>> especially since they might have shortened his incredibly productive life.
>>
>> The nits Ms. Dowd picks highlight her own skewed perspective as well as
>> doing your paper a huge disservice.
>>
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1e.

Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "hester" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:50 am (PDT)





Well, the book is full of a lot of positives about him. This was 100% negatory. just my 2.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, vixpix <vixpix@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't take it as such an attack. It appears she's just reporting what's in the book, and much of what she wrote was already revealed on 60 Minutes. Yes, it points out his darker side, but that seems to be all the buzz right now anyway.
>
> The article is available online.
>
> Vickie
>
> Sent from a spoiled little iPad
>

1f.

Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:21 am (PDT)



I feel the same. He did have a dark side. Don't most people of genius? Think of the other artists in history, many were quite batty in one way or another. It seems to come with the territory.
Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 26, 2011, at 11:28 AM, vixpix <vixpix@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't take it as such an attack. It appears she's just reporting what's in the book, and much of what she wrote was already revealed on 60 Minutes. Yes, it points out his darker side, but that seems to be all the buzz right now anyway.
>
> The article is available online.
>
> Vickie
>
> Sent from a spoiled little iPad
>
> On Oct 26, 2011, at 8:41 AM, hester reik <dhreik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Today's NY times has a horrible harangue about Jobs by the ever nasty
>> Maureen Dowd. I was so po'ed I wrote a LTE. It lies below
>>
>> To the Editor:
>>> Ms. Dowd's op-ed piece in today's paper was unusually nasty, even for her.
>>> What was the point in publishing such a diatribe? Mr. Jobs was a terribly
>>> flawed human being, like every other one on the face of the earth. His
>>> enormous contributions makes his imperfections more poignant and tragic,
>>> especially since they might have shortened his incredibly productive life.
>>>
>>> The nits Ms. Dowd picks highlight her own skewed perspective as well as
>>> doing your paper a huge disservice.
>>>
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1g.

Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Bekah" bekah0176@sbcglobal.net   bekalex

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:09 am (PDT)



Yup -Dowd pretty much used the material straight out of the book - and I'm really not surprised. Jobs was a brilliant, creative, manic (possibly bi-polar), perfectionist who was heavily influenced by the counter-culture and it showed in his products as well as his private life. Good news / bad news. I've heard it said that Bill Gates has a certain mild degree of autistic / asperger's. He's also managed quite well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/opinion/limits-of-magical-thinking.html?_r=1&ref=maureendowd

Has anyone read the book? I'm curious if we've now hit the hot spots on TV and in the news or if I should go ahead and buy the book?

Bekah

On Oct 26, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Terry Pogue wrote:

> I feel the same. He did have a dark side. Don't most people of genius? Think of the other artists in history, many were quite batty in one way or another. It seems to come with the territory.
> Terry
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 26, 2011, at 11:28 AM, vixpix <vixpix@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>> Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't take it as such an attack. It appears she's just reporting what's in the book, and much of what she wrote was already revealed on 60 Minutes. Yes, it points out his darker side, but that seems to be all the buzz right now anyway.
>>
>> The article is available online.
>>
>> Vickie

1h.

Re: OT: Screed about Steve Jobs

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:19 am (PDT)



On 10/26/2011 1:09 PM, Bekah wrote:
> Has anyone read the book? I'm curious if we've now hit the hot spots on TV and in the news or if I should go ahead and buy the book?

I am on the 3rd chapter of the ebook. I am going to purchase the
hardcover just to add it to my library.

Superb detail on Job's young years, especially during school. He tested
out at a 10th grade level while he was in 4th grade. The school system
wanted to skip him 2 grades, but his parents only allowed one grade
level. As it was, he had a problem with peers, being as smart as he was.

Harry

2a.

Re: Mac & Parallels

Posted by: "jamesrob@sonic.net" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:59 am (PDT)




--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "gloriajstitcher@..."
<gloriamraz@...> wrote:
>
> First let me say that I am not a computer genius like you all seem to
be. I am amazed at all the knowledge on this group.
>
> I have a Mac with Parallels running on it so I can have Windows XP for
my embroidery programs. My Kapersky anti-virus ran out for my Parallels
desktop and I want to install the free AVG for the windows side. I went
to the Add/Remove screen, clicked on the Kapersky and it started to
uninstall. It gets to a screen that says "stopping utilities" and goes
not farther...says there is an error and I need to have privileges to do
this. I am lost. Help! The AVG won't install until the Kapersky is
gone.
>

That's a Windows OS question [:)]
Many of us use Windows for various reasons, but the focus of the group
is the Mac and other elements of the Apple ecosystem. There are Windows
mailing lists and almost certainly Windows security Yahoo groups where
you'd have a much better chance of getting help.
This won't help you get rid of Kapersky, but my advice, once you manage
to do so, would be not to install Free AVG but rather Microsoft's own
"Microsoft Security Essentials." It runs on XP. It won't try desperately
to get you to purchase a fee-based product every year by hiding the free
download page; it won't bloat the installation with Internet Explorer
toolbars that send you to a search provider you don't want. It just
works.
Jim Robertson

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2b.

Re: Mac & Parallels

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:45 am (PDT)



On 10/25/2011 10:00 AM, gloriajstitcher@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> First let me say that I am not a computer genius like you all seem to be. I am amazed at all the knowledge on this group.
>
> I have a Mac with Parallels running on it so I can have Windows XP for my embroidery programs. My Kapersky anti-virus ran out for my Parallels desktop and I want to install the free AVG for the windows side. I went to the Add/Remove screen, clicked on the Kapersky and it started to uninstall. It gets to a screen that says "stopping utilities" and goes not farther...says there is an error and I need to have privileges to do this. I am lost. Help! The AVG won't install until the Kapersky is gone.
This may not be of help now, however, I usually install Windows on the
Bootcamp partition. Then, I can use this install to run either
Parallels, Fusion, or straight PC. If I have an issue with software, I
can always boot straight into Windows, using Bootcamp, and the issue is
usually quickly resolved that way. Afterward, I can resume my use of
Fusion or Parallels, normally.

Harry

3a.

Re: Spotlight: last modified column

Posted by: "Patsy Price" beyondwords@shaw.ca   beyondwords2

Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:06 am (PDT)



I said:
>I almost always need a column for last modified. Occasionally I also
>want last created. I understand there's some way to adjust view
>options. How?

I found it! But it took a long time, and lots of dead ends.

After I did a Spotlight search, Command-J brought up a window where I
could tell Spotlight which columns I do and don't want displayed. And
the change has stuck!

Patsy

4a.

OT-non-iPhone smartphone

Posted by: "caribsea@bellsouth.net" caribsea@bellsouth.net   caribsea@bellsouth.net

Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:01 am (PDT)



I'd love to have an iPhone but don't want a contract. Can anyone comment on other no-contract smartphones? Important features: GPS, Internet/email.

Thanks in advance.

Willi
iMac, 4 G4 PB 15" al., OS 10.6.8

4b.

Re: OT-non-iPhone smartphone

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:52 am (PDT)



I recommend you look at Virgin Mobile if it is available in your area.
UNLIMITED data, 300 minutes voice, unlimited text for $35/month and no junk
fees. VM is the MVNO of Sprint. They have two really good smartphones -
the LG Optimus V (for about $100 on sale) or the Moto Triumph (4.3" screen,
$300). Both are really nice phones and run Android 2.2. And, a very simple
process to enable (free) wifi tethering. With integrated voice actions and
third-party apps, you won't even miss Siri. For another $10/month, you can
add Line2 and have unlimited calling.
-Bob

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, caribsea@bellsouth.net <
caribsea@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I'd love to have an iPhone but don't want a contract. Can anyone comment on
> other no-contract smartphones? Important features: GPS, Internet/email.
>
>

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5a.

Re: New MacBook Pros

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:14 am (PDT)



Can any of the quad core i7 MBPs run Snow Leopard?

Bill
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Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8

5b.

Re: New MacBook Pros

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:18 am (PDT)



Sure, you just won't have thunderbolt or iCloud.

Sent from a mobile device, please ignore any autocorrected or typographical
errors.

On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:15, "Bill B." <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:

Can any of the quad core i7 MBPs run Snow Leopard?

Bill
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5c.

Re: New MacBook Pros

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:07 am (PDT)



On 10/26/2011 10:12 AM, Bill B. wrote:
> Can any of the quad core i7 MBPs run Snow Leopard?
>
> Bill
> --

Depends upon which version of the OS they ship with. A Mac can't boot
from an OS disc that is earlier than the version it ships with, unless
that's changed over the last 6 months.

Harry

5d.

Re: New MacBook Pros

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:12 am (PDT)



You can boot from a Snow Leopard DVD and erase the drive, you just can't
downgrade...

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:07, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> On 10/26/2011 10:12 AM, Bill B. wrote:
> > Can any of the quad core i7 MBPs run Snow Leopard?
> >
> > Bill
> > --
>
> Depends upon which version of the OS they ship with. A Mac can't boot
> from an OS disc that is earlier than the version it ships with, unless
> that's changed over the last 6 months.
>
> Harry
>
>
>

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5e.

Re: New MacBook Pros

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:53 am (PDT)



On 10/26/2011 11:11 AM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> You can boot from a Snow Leopard DVD and erase the drive, you just can't
> downgrade...
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:07, Harry Flaxman<harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/26/2011 10:12 AM, Bill B. wrote:
>>> > > Can any of the quad core i7 MBPs run Snow Leopard?
>>> > >
>>> > > Bill
>>> > > --
>> >
>> > Depends upon which version of the OS they ship with. A Mac can't boot
>> > from an OS disc that is earlier than the version it ships with, unless
>> > that's changed over the last 6 months.
>> >
>> > Harry

Bill,

Funny, my iMac shipped with 10.6.4. I've tried booting with lower
versions, including the original $30 10.6 upgrade disc, and the machine
won't start. The gear spins and spins, but no boot. If I use any disc
that is bootable with 10.6.4, the machine starts right up. I had to
update Diskwarrior to a new boot disc so I could just use it.

Alsoft offers a free update service to folks who have discs that won't
boot because of OS versions and releases.

Harry

5f.

Re: New MacBook Pros

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:01 am (PDT)



Harry, I can't speak as to pre Leopard as my first mac was an iMac that
shipped with Leopard I bought when Snow Leopard came out and only ran
Leopard for a few days until Best Buy got more copies of Snow Leopard (which
was free with Mac purchase).

I have bought several Mac Minis and two Airs since and I recently bought a
2011 Lion Mini to use as a Server for an office that came with Lion and I
was able to boot it, format hard drive and install Snow Leopard Server with
the unopened disk that came with the 2010 Mini Server I have at home (which
is running Lion after I upgraded from Snow Leopard which had been formatted
and installed over Snow Leopard Server).

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:53, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Funny, my iMac shipped with 10.6.4. I've tried booting with lower
> versions, including the original $30 10.6 upgrade disc, and the machine
> won't start. The gear spins and spins, but no boot. If I use any disc
> that is bootable with 10.6.4, the machine starts right up. I had to
> update Diskwarrior to a new boot disc so I could just use it.
>
> Alsoft offers a free update service to folks who have discs that won't
> boot because of OS versions and releases.
>
> Harry
>
>
>

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5g.

Re: New MacBook Pros

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:17 am (PDT)



On 10/26/2011 12:01 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> Harry, I can't speak as to pre Leopard as my first mac was an iMac that
> shipped with Leopard I bought when Snow Leopard came out and only ran
> Leopard for a few days until Best Buy got more copies of Snow Leopard (which
> was free with Mac purchase).
>
> I have bought several Mac Minis and two Airs since and I recently bought a
> 2011 Lion Mini to use as a Server for an office that came with Lion and I
> was able to boot it, format hard drive and install Snow Leopard Server with
> the unopened disk that came with the 2010 Mini Server I have at home (which
> is running Lion after I upgraded from Snow Leopard which had been formatted
> and installed over Snow Leopard Server).

You might have misunderstood what I was referring to. I have a mid-2010
iMac that shipped with 10.6.4. If I try to start with any release of
the OS below that, 10.6.3 or lower, the machine will not start. It has
to be 10.6.4 or greater.

The iMac I had before that came with 10.4.8 or so.. I forget at this
point. I could not boot with a lower release of the operating system.
The machine would not start. It would sit at the spinning gear forever
if I let it.

I had a release of Diskwarrior that had an earlier boot than 10.6.4 and
could not use it. Alsoft replaced the disc with a newer one, for nothing.

I started early on in the OS X days, not during the public beta, but
during one of the first commercial releases. Prior to that, I used
System 8, I believe it was. I had a clone back when Apple did it's
'licensing thing'.

Harry

6.

Unable to Sync iPhone

Posted by: "James Johnson" jamcam1@mac.com   james_jhn

Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:22 am (PDT)



Hi all,

For some reason I am unable to sync my iPhone 4 with such things as my contacts and ical calendars.

An error message pops up stating that a sync session could not be started.

Any ideas why and how to fix this?

James J

7a.

Re: Password management

Posted by: "Nick Andriash" Nickster248@telus.net   andriash2005

Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:29 am (PDT)




On 2011-10-25, at 5:24 PM, Terry Pogue wrote:

> I use iPassword on all my computers and my iPad. I only bought it once. I used Web Confidential for years but it seemed to be fading so I switched. IPassword played nicely with WC and imported everything with no problems.

I will 2nd the recommendation for 1Password Pro.

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andriash@gmail.com
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 8 GB, OS X 10.7.1
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4 16GB

8a.

Re: Using Two Firewire 800 WD Studio LX External Drives on one Macbo

Posted by: "Nick Andriash" Nickster248@telus.net   andriash2005

Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:30 am (PDT)




On 2011-10-24, at 10:03 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> You will notice that all AC-powered external FW drives (ones using 3.5"
> "desktop" drives) have 2 FW ports for this very reason.

Yes, I did notice that and thought exactly that...but still wanted to confer with the knowledgable types on the List to confirm. Thanks again to everyone for replying.

--
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andriash@gmail.com
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 8 GB, OS X 10.7.1
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4 16GB

9a.

PBS to premiere 'Steve Jobs - One Last Thing' doc on Nov. 2 -- EXCLU

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:25 am (PDT)



http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/26/steve-jobs-pbs-documentary/
PBS to premiere 'Steve Jobs - One Last Thing' doc on Nov. 2 -- EXCLUSIVE
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[image: Steve-Jobs]

Image Credit: David Paul Morris/Getty Images

PBS will take an unflinching, in-depth look at the influences on Steve Jobs�
character and career in the one-hour documentary *Steve Jobs � One Last
Thing*, which is set to premiere Nov. 2 at 10 p.m. ET (check local
listings). According to the announcement, the documentary features
interviews with, among others: Ronald Wayne, co-founder of Apple with Jobs
and Steve Wozniak; Ross Perot, who invested in NeXT Computer when Jobs was
running out of money; Walt Mossberg, principal technology columnist for *The
Wall Street Journal*, who interviewed Jobs every year from 2003-2010;
will.i.am, frontman and producer for The Black Eyed Peas, whose �I Gotta
Feeling� currently ranks as the most downloaded iTunes song ever; Dean
Hovey, designer of the original mouse for Apple; Robert Cringely, writer and
host of the PBS series *Triumph of the Nerds: The Rise of Accidental Empires
*; Robert Palladino, calligraphy professor at Reed College, whose classes
Jobs credited with inspiring his typography design for the Mac; and Bill
Fernandez, who introduced Jobs and Wozniak in Sunnyvale, where the three
hung out in his father�s garage and tinkered with electronics.

It also includes footage from a never-before-broadcast interview with Jobs
in 1994, when he shared his philosophy on life: �You tend to get told that
the world is the way it is, but life can be much broader once you discover
one simple fact; and that is that everything around you that you call life
was made up by people no smarter than you � Once you learn that, you�ll
never be the same again.�

The documentary takes its name from Jobs� penchant for appearing to reach
the end of a presentation, before saying �Oh � one more thing� and revealing
his latest design
achievement<http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20522702_20570134,00.html>.
The film is funded by PBS, Channel 4, and Mentorn International.

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9b.

Re: PBS to premiere 'Steve Jobs - One Last Thing' doc on Nov. 2 -- E

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:30 am (PDT)



On 10/26/2011 1:25 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/26/steve-jobs-pbs-documentary/
> PBS to premiere 'Steve Jobs - One Last Thing' doc on Nov. 2 -- EXCLUSIVE
> by Mandi Bierly<http://www.ew.com/ew/mandi-bierly>
> Categories: In Memoriam<http://insidetv.ew.com/category/misc/in-memoriam/>,
> Television<http://insidetv.ew.com/category/genres/television/>, TV
> Scoop<http://insidetv.ew.com/category/misc/tv-scoop/>
>
> - Comments 1
> <http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/26/steve-jobs-pbs-documentary/#commentsHeader>
> - Add comment<http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/26/steve-jobs-pbs-documentary/#respond>

Tough link to follow, I get through reading a couple of sentences of the
doc's description, and the page refreshes to a comment page. Tried this
several times with the first link above and it happens consistently.

Not sure about other browsers, I'm using Firefox currently.

Harry

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