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Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:42 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Denver Dan" denverdan22180
Howdy.
I understand the possibilities with PDF and have the Apple iPad manual
in PDF on my iPad but if a non DRM epub book were saved as a PDF when
it is opened in iBooks would it have the same features, the same
abilities, and the same interactive capabilities as a regular epub book
in iBooks?
In other words, what functionality might be lost be saving as pdf and
then reading in iBooks?
Denver Dan
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:18:18 +0930, Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane wrote:
> Sync it to iTunes I then choose to print book I can then choose save
> as a PDF file to desktop or email it.
I understand the possibilities with PDF and have the Apple iPad manual
in PDF on my iPad but if a non DRM epub book were saved as a PDF when
it is opened in iBooks would it have the same features, the same
abilities, and the same interactive capabilities as a regular epub book
in iBooks?
In other words, what functionality might be lost be saving as pdf and
then reading in iBooks?
Denver Dan
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:18:18 +0930, Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane wrote:
> Sync it to iTunes I then choose to print book I can then choose save
> as a PDF file to desktop or email it.
Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:46 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane" lightning532001
Use calibre free prog to change a PDF to ePub
Sent from my iPad . Alma
On 19/09/2012, at 2:12 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I understand the possibilities with PDF and have the Apple iPad manual
> in PDF on my iPad but if a non DRM epub book were saved as a PDF when
> it is opened in iBooks would it have the same features, the same
> abilities, and the same interactive capabilities as a regular epub book
> in iBooks?
>
> In other words, what functionality might be lost be saving as pdf and
> then reading in iBooks?
Sent from my iPad . Alma
On 19/09/2012, at 2:12 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> I understand the possibilities with PDF and have the Apple iPad manual
> in PDF on my iPad but if a non DRM epub book were saved as a PDF when
> it is opened in iBooks would it have the same features, the same
> abilities, and the same interactive capabilities as a regular epub book
> in iBooks?
>
> In other words, what functionality might be lost be saving as pdf and
> then reading in iBooks?
Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:33 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Dan,
There's something I'm missing here: why do you want to read an epub book
with the Kindle app when you have the iBooks app? Is this a test for
someone who has a Kindle?
iBooks uses the epub format; just about any reader *except* Kindle can read
epub.
Kindle uses KF8 and AZW.
AFAIK Calibre can convert any non-protected format to another.
Here's a list of ebook formats:-
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-book_formats >
Otto
On 18 September 2012 23:28, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Thanks for your note. I sort of knew some of what you wrote about but
> as of yet don't have much specific experience with it.
>
> I've downloaded and looked at Calibre for I think the first couple of
> things I experimented on were DRM and it therefore didn't work.
>
> The standard Apple iBooks store books are in the epub format.
>
> So I have this new book today, it's in epub format, no DRM, how would I
> get it from the iPad book backup folder done via iTunes to something /
> some place, where it could be read by the Kindle reader app on the
> iPad??
>
> Sorry to seem dense on this topic but it seems like maybe it's
> deliberately made confusing by Apple and other digital book publishers.
>
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There's something I'm missing here: why do you want to read an epub book
with the Kindle app when you have the iBooks app? Is this a test for
someone who has a Kindle?
iBooks uses the epub format; just about any reader *except* Kindle can read
epub.
Kindle uses KF8 and AZW.
AFAIK Calibre can convert any non-protected format to another.
Here's a list of ebook formats:-
<http://en.wikipedia
Otto
On 18 September 2012 23:28, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> Thanks for your note. I sort of knew some of what you wrote about but
> as of yet don't have much specific experience with it.
>
> I've downloaded and looked at Calibre for I think the first couple of
> things I experimented on were DRM and it therefore didn't work.
>
> The standard Apple iBooks store books are in the epub format.
>
> So I have this new book today, it's in epub format, no DRM, how would I
> get it from the iPad book backup folder done via iTunes to something /
> some place, where it could be read by the Kindle reader app on the
> iPad??
>
> Sorry to seem dense on this topic but it seems like maybe it's
> deliberately made confusing by Apple and other digital book publishers.
>
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Dan,
This is the opposite of what you asked in the OP. You need to convert the
Kindle (KF8 or AZW) file into epub or PDF so iBooks can read it. Calibre
should do this as long as the file is not DRM. Calibre is also an ebook
reader.
Otto
On 19 September 2012 05:39, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net > wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Bekah, I think I'm learning here. I'd like to figure out how to get a
> Kindle non DRM book into the Apple iBooks app for reading since I
> prefer the quality of text and features in iBooks to Kindle app (and
> much better than the Nook app).
>
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This is the opposite of what you asked in the OP. You need to convert the
Kindle (KF8 or AZW) file into epub or PDF so iBooks can read it. Calibre
should do this as long as the file is not DRM. Calibre is also an ebook
reader.
Otto
On 19 September 2012 05:39, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> Howdy.
>
> Bekah, I think I'm learning here. I'd like to figure out how to get a
> Kindle non DRM book into the Apple iBooks app for reading since I
> prefer the quality of text and features in iBooks to Kindle app (and
> much better than the Nook app).
>
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:31 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"James Robertson" jamesrob328i
On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.
> understand the possibilities with PDF and have the Apple iPad manual
> in PDF on my iPad but if a non DRM epub book were saved as a PDF when
> it is opened in iBooks would it have the same features, the same
> abilities, and the same interactive capabilities as a regular epub book
> in iBooks?
>
> In other words, what functionality might be lost be saving as pdf and
> then reading in iBooks?
I'm a bit puzzled why ePub has overwhelmed pdf, to be honest. So many books still contain text that says "see figure 8 on page 27" or something akin to that, or are DESIGNED so that an image is adjacent to a particular column, and all that is decimated by the auto-reflow of ePub.
I get most of my Mac books via my SafariBooksOnline subscription. They've recently dropped pdf for ePub. I'm very disappointed.
I know there are advantages of ePub, but I think the losses exceed the gains for technical documents.
Just my opinion,
--
Jim Robertson
Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:06 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
On 19 September 2012 14:31, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net > wrote:
>
> I'm a bit puzzled why ePub has overwhelmed pdf, to be honest. So many
> books still contain text that says "see figure 8 on page 27" or something
> akin to that, or are DESIGNED so that an image is adjacent to a particular
> column, and all that is decimated by the auto-reflow of ePub.
>
> I get most of my Mac books via my SafariBooksOnline subscription. They've
> recently dropped pdf for ePub. I'm very disappointed.
>
> I know there are advantages of ePub, but I think the losses exceed the
> gains for technical documents.
>
> Just my opinion,
>
Aren't PDFs essentially "images" of printed pages, and therefore take a lot
of space? All of the ebook formats use less space than even plain text, as
well as providing formatting not available in plain text.
Otto
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> I'm a bit puzzled why ePub has overwhelmed pdf, to be honest. So many
> books still contain text that says "see figure 8 on page 27" or something
> akin to that, or are DESIGNED so that an image is adjacent to a particular
> column, and all that is decimated by the auto-reflow of ePub.
>
> I get most of my Mac books via my SafariBooksOnline subscription. They've
> recently dropped pdf for ePub. I'm very disappointed.
>
> I know there are advantages of ePub, but I think the losses exceed the
> gains for technical documents.
>
> Just my opinion,
>
Aren't PDFs essentially "images" of printed pages, and therefore take a lot
of space? All of the ebook formats use less space than even plain text, as
well as providing formatting not available in plain text.
Otto
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 19/09/12 15:06, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> On 19 September 2012 14:31, James Robertson<jamesrob@sonic.net > wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm a bit puzzled why ePub has overwhelmed pdf, to be honest. So many
>> books still contain text that says "see figure 8 on page 27" or something
>> akin to that, or are DESIGNED so that an image is adjacent to a particular
>> column, and all that is decimated by the auto-reflow of ePub.
>>
>> I get most of my Mac books via my SafariBooksOnline subscription. They've
>> recently dropped pdf for ePub. I'm very disappointed.
>>
>> I know there are advantages of ePub, but I think the losses exceed the
>> gains for technical documents.
>>
>> Just my opinion,
>>
>
> Aren't PDFs essentially "images" of printed pages, and therefore take a lot
> of space? All of the ebook formats use less space than even plain text, as
> well as providing formatting not available in plain text.
They can be like that, but do not have to be.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format
a PDF could be as compact as any ebook format, or could be a lot larger,
depending how it is produced..
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> On 19 September 2012 14:31, James Robertson<jamesrob@sonic.
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>>
>> I'm a bit puzzled why ePub has overwhelmed pdf, to be honest. So many
>> books still contain text that says "see figure 8 on page 27" or something
>> akin to that, or are DESIGNED so that an image is adjacent to a particular
>> column, and all that is decimated by the auto-reflow of ePub.
>>
>> I get most of my Mac books via my SafariBooksOnline subscription. They've
>> recently dropped pdf for ePub. I'm very disappointed.
>>
>> I know there are advantages of ePub, but I think the losses exceed the
>> gains for technical documents.
>>
>> Just my opinion,
>>
>
> Aren't PDFs essentially "images" of printed pages, and therefore take a lot
> of space? All of the ebook formats use less space than even plain text, as
> well as providing formatting not available in plain text.
They can be like that, but do not have to be.
See http://en.wikipedia
a PDF could be as compact as any ebook format, or could be a lot larger,
depending how it is produced..
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:28 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Bekah" bekalex
So you're trying to go from a Kindle non-DRM book and read it in the iBooks app? Hmmm.... I read on my Kindle app so I really don't know.
The Kindle books are kept in the Docs > My Kindle Content folder. See if you can take a book out and put it into the iBooks folder and maybe sync your Mac with your iPad. ???? (The books are numbered, not titled, so it might not be easy to find one you want to move - I have hundreds of books.) The books each have between 1 and 3 files.
I don't have the iBook reader on my Mac or I'd do it and tell you if it works. (I really only use the Kindle.) I don't have Mountain Lion (later today!) either so I can't even do the iBook Lite yet.
Bekah
On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I understand the possibilities with PDF and have the Apple iPad manual
> in PDF on my iPad but if a non DRM epub book were saved as a PDF when
> it is opened in iBooks would it have the same features, the same
> abilities, and the same interactive capabilities as a regular epub book
> in iBooks?
>
> In other words, what functionality might be lost be saving as pdf and
> then reading in iBooks?
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:18:18 +0930, Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane wrote:
>> Sync it to iTunes I then choose to print book I can then choose save
>> as a PDF file to desktop or email it.
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The Kindle books are kept in the Docs > My Kindle Content folder. See if you can take a book out and put it into the iBooks folder and maybe sync your Mac with your iPad. ???? (The books are numbered, not titled, so it might not be easy to find one you want to move - I have hundreds of books.) The books each have between 1 and 3 files.
I don't have the iBook reader on my Mac or I'd do it and tell you if it works. (I really only use the Kindle.) I don't have Mountain Lion (later today!) either so I can't even do the iBook Lite yet.
Bekah
On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> I understand the possibilities with PDF and have the Apple iPad manual
> in PDF on my iPad but if a non DRM epub book were saved as a PDF when
> it is opened in iBooks would it have the same features, the same
> abilities, and the same interactive capabilities as a regular epub book
> in iBooks?
>
> In other words, what functionality might be lost be saving as pdf and
> then reading in iBooks?
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:18:18 +0930, Mr & Mrs Alma & Colin Lane wrote:
>> Sync it to iTunes I then choose to print book I can then choose save
>> as a PDF file to desktop or email it.
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:10 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Richard Prokopchuk" wizardofaz2002
After further assessment of what I want, I guess what I am looking for is a photo and text journal that I can document work photographically with text, include costs and materials too. I don't build for sale anymore. My health is too poor and I don't think I could do a project within a reasonable time anymore. My quality hasn't suffered, just my work speed.
Thanks to you and the other members who have responded. I appreciate it.
Rick
iMac 3.06 ghz Intel Core 2 Duo - 4GB 800 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM
Thanks to you and the other members who have responded. I appreciate it.
Rick
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:16 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Otto Nikolaus" nikyzf
Don,
What do you see under Mail > Preferences > Fonts & Colors? Is Mailbox font
the only one that's missing?
Otto
On 19 September 2012 02:13, Don Seal <y-photo.96705@hawaiiantel.net > wrote:
> Bekah
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I suspect that the Mailbox font is wrong on
> my Mac. Problem is that I do not have that item under Fonts & Colors!
>
> Don at 21.9N 159.6W
> 2 x 2.93 GHz Mac Pro
> OS X 10.7.4
>
> P.S. I am off-line more than I am on-line due to failure to wake from
> sleep / failure to boot problems w/ my Mac Pro. I try to reply as soon as
> I get online.
>
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What do you see under Mail > Preferences > Fonts & Colors? Is Mailbox font
the only one that's missing?
Otto
On 19 September 2012 02:13, Don Seal <y-photo.96705@
> Bekah
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I suspect that the Mailbox font is wrong on
> my Mac. Problem is that I do not have that item under Fonts & Colors!
>
> Don at 21.9N 159.6W
> 2 x 2.93 GHz Mac Pro
> OS X 10.7.4
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> P.S. I am off-line more than I am on-line due to failure to wake from
> sleep / failure to boot problems w/ my Mac Pro. I try to reply as soon as
> I get online.
>
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:56 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Harry Flaxman" hflaxman001
Was iOS 6 supposed to be released today, or have I been misinformed?
Harry
Harry
Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Randazzo" cdazzo64
Ur right. Today. Last time it was released, it was around mid day or so.
On 9/19/12 9:55 AM, "Harry Flaxman" <harry.flaxman@me.com > wrote:
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Chris Jones" bobstermcbob
On 19/09/12 15:01, Chris Randazzo wrote:
> Ur right. Today. Last time it was released, it was around mid day or so.
which of course is time zone specific.... So depending on where you are,
it could be any time in a 24 hour period...
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> On 9/19/12 9:55 AM, "Harry Flaxman"<harry.flaxman@me.com > wrote:
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> On 9/19/12 9:55 AM, "Harry Flaxman"<harry.flaxman@
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
I read somewhere that it was expected at 1:00 pm EST.
.........Mike
On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@me.com > wrote:
> Was iOS 6 supposed to be released today, or have I been misinformed?
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> Harry
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.........Mike
On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@
> Was iOS 6 supposed to be released today, or have I been misinformed?
>
> Harry
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:54 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Michael P. Stupinski" mstupinski
Guess that should have been 1:00PM EDT, not EST. I always get confused on that, although I know when to adjust the clock. LOL
.........Mike
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> .........Mike
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> On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@me.com > wrote:
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> On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@
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