Messages In This Digest (15 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Was wasiting for the iPhone 5 - about to go for the 4s From: Prokic Roger
- 1b.
- Re: Was wasiting for the iPhone 5 - about to go for the 4s From: whiterabbit32@gmail.com
- 2.1.
- Re: Well iPhone 4S From: Dave Balcom
- 2.2.
- Re: Well iPhone 4S From: whiterabbit32@gmail.com
- 2.3.
- Re: Well iPhone 4S From: Jim Harry
- 2.4.
- Re: Well iPhone 4S From: Pablo Morales
- 2.5.
- Re: Well iPhone 4S From: Zillaide Zimbo
- 2.6.
- Re: Well iPhone 4S From: Prokic Roger
- 3.
- Apple's iPhone 4S, iOS 5 and iPod roundup: details, specs and releas From: Bill Boulware
- 4a.
- Apple���⒠��s iPhone Event: Three Big Reasons It Still Mattered From: Bill Boulware
- 4b.
- Re: Apple's iPhone Event: Three Big Reasons It Still Mattered From: Jay
- 4c.
- Re: [apple-iphone] Apple���⒠��s iPhone Event: Three Big Reasons It From: Prokic Roger
- 5a.
- Why are some underwhelmed? From: bob_vandiver
- 5b.
- Re: Why are some underwhelmed? From: Prokic Roger
- 6a.
- Re: All About Siri, Your iPhone's New Assistant [Ios] From: Nick Andriash
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- 1a.
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Re: Was wasiting for the iPhone 5 - about to go for the 4s
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:50 pm (PDT)
go for it
On Oct 4, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Jay wrote:
> I have been a Blackberry user forever. My company now supports the iPhone using the Good Enterprise software. I use it on my iPad and it works well. I was anxiously waiting for the iPhone5. I hate my Blackberry so I think its time to jump in and go with the 4s.
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> Here is my thinking, let me know if you agreee.
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> My primary need is as a phone and email. The 4s will do fine.
> For phone I need international (Verizon is my carrier). The 4s will give me that. I will get the 64gb so I will be out $399.
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> I figure that the earliest that the 5 will be announced is between February and April. I don't think its worth the wait.
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> I appreciate any comments. You can do it in the group or mail me direct.
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> Thanks
> Jay
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- 1b.
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Re: Was wasiting for the iPhone 5 - about to go for the 4s
Posted by: "whiterabbit32@gmail.com" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr32
Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:52 pm (PDT)
The iPhone 4s is good for you since you don't have an iPhone. You may find you use other features of it besides just the mail and phone.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"...Ben Franklin
On Oct 4, 2011, at 4:36 PM, "Jay" <ontheroad1154@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I have been a Blackberry user forever. My company now supports the iPhone using the Good Enterprise software. I use it on my iPad and it works well. I was anxiously waiting for the iPhone5. I hate my Blackberry so I think its time to jump in and go with the 4s.
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> Here is my thinking, let me know if you agreee.
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> My primary need is as a phone and email. The 4s will do fine.
> For phone I need international (Verizon is my carrier). The 4s will give me that. I will get the 64gb so I will be out $399.
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> I figure that the earliest that the 5 will be announced is between February and April. I don't think its worth the wait.
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> I appreciate any comments. You can do it in the group or mail me direct.
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> Thanks
> Jay
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- 2.1.
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Re: Well iPhone 4S
Posted by: "Dave Balcom" balcy24@gmail.com balcy24
Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:00 pm (PDT)
On 10/4/2011 2:26 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
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> If I were confident that there was no iPhone 5 coming in 2012, I would
> definitely upgrade our 3GS to a 4S, and swap my 4 to my wife...
I am glad I have a couple of months to think about it. My iPhone 4
upgrade date is in late November.
On a side note, we ordered a shiny new black iPad 2 (32 GB, wifi) from
Apple on Saturday and it was delivered this afternoon.
Later,
Dave
- 2.2.
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Re: Well iPhone 4S
Posted by: "whiterabbit32@gmail.com" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr32
Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:16 pm (PDT)
Oooo, a new iPad. I get all jittery inside just thinking about it all nice and shiny and fingerprintless :-)
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"...Ben Franklin
On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Dave Balcom <balcy24@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 10/4/2011 2:26 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
> >
> > If I were confident that there was no iPhone 5 coming in 2012, I would
> > definitely upgrade our 3GS to a 4S, and swap my 4 to my wife...
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> I am glad I have a couple of months to think about it. My iPhone 4
> upgrade date is in late November.
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> On a side note, we ordered a shiny new black iPad 2 (32 GB, wifi) from
> Apple on Saturday and it was delivered this afternoon.
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> Later,
> Dave
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- 2.3.
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Re: Well iPhone 4S
Posted by: "Jim Harry" jim.harry@harryfamily.com jnharry
Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:30 pm (PDT)
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Woody <waterk9@gmail.com > wrote:
> How will you do that?
> Won't you pay an extra large charge to change from the 4 to 4S?
> Are you with ATT or Verizon?
I will use the eligibility of one of my other lines, so I will be able to
pay normal cost. I am with AT&T.
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- 2.4.
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Re: Well iPhone 4S
Posted by: "Pablo Morales" pablomorales71@gmail.com
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:16 pm (PDT)
my question is. How much will be the iPhone 4s, without contract?
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From: "Janet Rhoden" <msjdr@aol.com>
To: <apple-iphone@yahoogroups. >com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Well iPhone 4S
> how can i find out about the voice assistant features.
> thanks
> j
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> From: Bill Boulware
> To: Open-iPhone Group ; iPhone Group
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:45 AM
> Subject: [apple-iphone] Well iPhone 4S
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> Well new iPhone 4S - looks the same, A5 processor that iPad 2 has, new
> 8MP /
> 1080P camera, biggest feature is Siri (kept same name) and tons of voice
> assistant features and 64GB model for $399 (same $199/$299 pricing for
> 16GB/32GB).
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> The iPhone 4 will stay and is now $99 as does the 3GS which is free on
> contract.
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> The 4S comes out on the 14th a week from Friday, iOS 5 & iCloud come out
> Wed
> 10/12 and iTunes Match comes out "End of October" - no firm date.
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> In total? Underwhelmed excite voice features.
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Re: Well iPhone 4S
Posted by: "Zillaide Zimbo" zillaidezimbo@gmail.com
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:16 pm (PDT)
Is it worth to buy iPhone 4S
Sent from my iPhone 4.
On 05-Oct-2011, at 6:34 AM, Jim Harry <jim.harry@harryfamily.com > wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Woody <waterk9@gmail.com > wrote:
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> > How will you do that?
> > Won't you pay an extra large charge to change from the 4 to 4S?
> > Are you with ATT or Verizon?
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> I will use the eligibility of one of my other lines, so I will be able to
> pay normal cost. I am with AT&T.
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- 2.6.
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Re: Well iPhone 4S
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:49 pm (PDT)
Yes it is worth it.
Roger
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On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Zillaide Zimbo <zillaidezimbo@gmail.com > wrote:
> Is it worth to buy iPhone 4S
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> Sent from my iPhone 4.
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> On 05-Oct-2011, at 6:34 AM, Jim Harry <jim.harry@harryfamily.com > wrote:
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>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Woody <waterk9@gmail.com > wrote:
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>>> How will you do that?
>>> Won't you pay an extra large charge to change from the 4 to 4S?
>>> Are you with ATT or Verizon?
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>> I will use the eligibility of one of my other lines, so I will be able to
>> pay normal cost. I am with AT&T.
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Apple's iPhone 4S, iOS 5 and iPod roundup: details, specs and releas
Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224
Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:17 pm (PDT)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/ 10/04/apples- iphone-4s- ios-5-and- ipod-roundup- details-specs- and-re/
Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple's iPhone 4S, iOS
5 and iPod roundup: details, specs and release dates via Engadget by
Brad Molen on 10/4/11
Phew, what a day! Apple's done its fair share of introducing today, and
now it's on us to distill everything down into something understandable
by folks who don't have the time to pore over every single morsel of
iPhone and iOS 5-related news oozing from Cupertino. You can relive our
liveblog right here -- for everything else, get schooled below.
iPhone 4S
- iPhone 4S officially announed, lands October 14th in sizes up to 64GB
- Sprint iPhone announced, getting both iPhone 4 and 4S
- Meet the new iPhone 4S
- AirPlay Mirroring coming to iPhone 4S
- iPhone 4S hands-on
- iPhone 4S vs. the smartphone elite
- iPhone 4S vs. iPhone 4
- Post-event live broadcast
- iPhone 4S event video posted online iOS 5
- iOS 5 will be available October 12th, iCloud launches the same day
- Cards app for iPhone introduced
- Find My Friends announced
- iTunes Match hits US 'end of October' for $24.99
- Apple brings Siri voice recognition iPod / Mac / other news
- Six million copies of Lion downloaded since launch
- Macbook Pro and iMac are the best selling notebook and desktop in the
US
- 16 billion iTunes songs downloaded, 300 million iPods sold
- 250 million iOS devices sold, 18 billion apps downloaded
- iPod Touch available October 12th in black and white, maxes at 64GB /
$399
- iPod nano now $149 for 16GB and $129 for 8GB
- iPhone 3GS 8GB is free, iPhone 4 8GB $99
- AppleCare+ debuts for $99, covers accidental damage for a fee
Apple's iPhone 4S, iOS 5 and iPod roundup: details, specs and release
dates originally appeared on Engadget on Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:51:00 EDT.
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Apple���⒠��s iPhone Event: Three Big Reasons It Still Mattered
Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224
Tue Oct 4, 2011 6:18 pm (PDT)
Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple���⒠��s iPhone Event:
Three Big Reasons It Still Mattered via Mashable! by Lance Ulanoff on
10/4/11
Yes, Apple disappointed millions of current iPhone 4 owners by not
introducing the iPhone 5.
Still the iPhone 4S is the next best thing. It has all new guts: new
chip, new camera, and new antennas. It just happens to look exactly
like the iPhone 4. This makes the iPhone 4S unveiling today at Apple���⒠��s
Corporate Campus feel a little like a non-event. That���⒠��s too bad,
because I counted at least three important stories coming out of
Cupertino today.
Sprint
No, Sprint didn���⒠��t spend $20 billion to secure exclusive iPhone 5
rights, but it is now officially part of the Apple iPhone family, and
that is big news. Apple was extra careful not to diminish current and
longtime partners as it announced Sprint���⒠��s iPhone, so much so that
Sprint was simply listed along with AT&T and Verizon.
Yes, Apple CEO Cook did say, ���⒠��and for the first time, Sprint���⒠��. But that
was it. It was so casual that some audience members I spoke to almost
missed it.
Underplayed or not, a Sprint iPhone is big news. Sprint has 35 million
postpaid customers, many of which I���⒠��m sure have always wanted an
iPhone. When I asked on Twitter whether or not Sprint customers are
excited about the iPhone 4S, I immediately got this response: ���⒠��HELL
YES. Free from Android.���⒠�� Another told me her husband, who is on Sprint,
was ready to go to the Apple store this morning. This is the definition
of pent-up demand. As I���⒠��ve said before, Sprint customers do have other
slab phone options (Android), but the cachet of an iPhone remains, and
I bet Apple sells a boatload to Sprint customers.
Siri: The Intelligent Assistant
I���⒠��ve been looking at voice recognition technology since the early
1990s. Both IBM and Microsoft spent years integrating it with their
operating systems (OS/2 had one of the most advanced voice systems I
had ever seen���⒠��at least up until the mid-90s). However, both companies
failed to stir up much enthusiasm for the technology among consumers.
The truth was this: old-school voice recognition (VR) required tons of
training, and most users gave up long before they ever started to get
any value out of it.
Things started to change when Dragon Naturally Speaking came along in
the late 90s. The product required little training and was remarkably
accurate. Nuance now owns them and is generally known as a leader in
VR. Still, voice recognition usually fails when it comes to
understanding context. Siri, which uses Nuance���⒠��s VR technology, aptly
breaks that barrier and, at least in the demos I saw, actually appears
to understand what the speaker is saying.
Typical voice recognition demos rarely go as smoothly as Apple���⒠��s Siri
demo went today. It was flawless and stunning. As Apple explained it,
Siri understands ���⒠��concepts���⒠��. If true, then Siri has a form of
artificial intelligence. Here were some of the examples I saw of Siri
in action:
Scott Forstall, senior vice president of iOS Software at Apple, asked
Siri, ���⒠��How many days are there until Christmas?���⒠�� Siri quickly responded
that she was checking and then she displayed an accurate result.
Forestall then asked, ���⒠��Give me directions to Hoover Tower���⒠�� Siri
replied,: ���⒠��Here are directions to Hoover tower���⒠�� and then it displayed
the map.
In every instance, Siri showed off its deep integration with the phone
and its native apps, including Maps, reminders, Calendar, Contacts and
more.
We may soon forget that Apple failed to deliver an iPhone 5 on this
day, but I doubt we���⒠��ll ever forget the first time we saw and heard
Siri: The Intelligent Assistant in action.
Tim Cook
Tim Cook took the stage and immediately noted that this was his first
product announcement as CEO. Still, he didn���⒠��t seem nervous.
On the contrary, his near-country cadence was calm, even and, at times,
mesmerizing. However, Cook wasn���⒠��t all that interested in the stage and
ceded the platform to Phil Schiller, Apple���⒠��s senior vice president of
worldwide product marketing, for the lion���⒠��s share of major
announcements. Cook handled where Apple is now and how it got here. He
cracked a couple of jokes, but I don���⒠��t recall any Jobsian-style
zingers. Cook did not pull a one-more thing out of his back pocket. No,
he simply thanked us all for coming and then quietly left the stage.
Steve Jobs did not show up and Cook, smartly, did not try to be him.
It���⒠��s the end of an era at Apple and, clearly, the beginning of a new
one.
What Apple Announced Oct. 4:
Tim Cook takes the stage
Tim Cook takes the stage
Live bloggers at the Apple event
iPod sales
iPod sales
iPhone sales
iPad's impact on education
iPad stats
Scott Forstall talks iOS
Scott Forstall talks app downloads
Scott Forstall introduces Apple Cards
Scott Forstall introduces Apple Cards
Scott Forstall talks iOS 5
Eddy Cue talks camera updates
Eddy Cue talks location sharing
Eddy Cue talks iTunes
Eddy Cue on app updates
Philip Schiller introduces new gen iPods
iPod nano as a watch
iPod nano customizable watch face
iPod touch, nano, shuffle
iPhone 4S
A5 chip
iPhone 4S plays Infinity Blade
iPhone 4S plays Infinity Blade
iPhone 4S plays Infinity Blade
iPhone 4 & 4S data speed comparison
iPhone 4S data speed market comparison
iPhone 4's impact on photography
iPhone 4S camera megapixel sensor
iPhone 4S camera backside illumination
iPhone 4S camera lens
iPhone 4S camera shooting time
iPhone 4S camera shooting time
iPhone 4S photo sample
iOS Weather app
iOS Weather app
Siri assistant for iPhone
Siri assistant for iPhone
Philip Schiller reviews
iPhone 4S Specs
iPhone 4S Pricing
- Apple Announces iPhone 4S
- iPhone 4S: When, Where and How Much
- Sprint Is Getting the iPhone
- Free iPhone: Apple Cuts 3GS Price to $0
- Apple Unveils Siri, the iPhone 4S Voice Assistant
- New iPod Nano Is Clock and Fitness Watch in One
- iOS 5 Available for Download Oct. 12
- Cards: Apple���⒠��s One-Stop-Shop for iPhone Greeting Cards
- iPhone Adds ���⒠��Find My Friends���⒠�� App for Location Sharing
- Apple: 250 Million iOS Devices Sold and Other Huge Stats
More About: apple, iphone, iPhone 4S, tim cook
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Re: Apple's iPhone Event: Three Big Reasons It Still Mattered
Posted by: "Jay" ontheroad1154@yahoo.com ontheroad1154
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:16 pm (PDT)
If they called it the iPhone 5, people would be happy.
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Re: [apple-iphone] Apple���⒠��s iPhone Event: Three Big Reasons It
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:49 pm (PDT)
Probably! I think the S now means they didn't change the outside of the unit.
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On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Jay <ontheroad1154@yahoo.com > wrote:
> If they called it the iPhone 5, people would be happy.
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Why are some underwhelmed?
Posted by: "bob_vandiver" bobv@easystreet.net bob_vandiver
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:16 pm (PDT)
I keep reading posts of those who think the 4GS is a trifling upgrade, not worth springing for. What the heck does an upgrade have to feature to get you excited? Built in Shiatsu massage? Free food from Guy Savoy?
I have been waiting for more memory and this phone has it, though truth be told I would love it if they offered a 128 gig phone. The other features also sound cool.
Bob Vandiver
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Re: Why are some underwhelmed?
Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:49 pm (PDT)
Lol! More memory is all I need to upgrade too.
Roger
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On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:13 PM, bob_vandiver <bobv@easystreet.net > wrote:
> I keep reading posts of those who think the 4GS is a trifling upgrade, not worth springing for. What the heck does an upgrade have to feature to get you excited? Built in Shiatsu massage? Free food from Guy Savoy?
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> I have been waiting for more memory and this phone has it, though truth be told I would love it if they offered a 128 gig phone. The other features also sound cool.
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Re: All About Siri, Your iPhone's New Assistant [Ios]
Posted by: "Nick Andriash" Nickster248@telus.net andriash2005
Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:16 pm (PDT)
Apparently not. You need the 1 GB RAM and the A5 Chip.
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Nick Andriash
On 2011-10-04, at 12:38 PM, Zillaide Zimbo wrote:
> Can Siri be updated to iPhone4.
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