10/05/2011

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Apple Special Event October 2011

Posted by: "James C. Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Wed Oct 5, 2011 7:35 am (PDT)




If you'd like to watch a video of Apple's announcement of the iPhone 4S yesterday, here is the link. The video also gives a brief review of Apple's other products as well....Jim

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piuhbvdlbkvoih10/event/index.html

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Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

Posted by: "James Johnson" jamcam1@mac.com   james_jhn

Wed Oct 5, 2011 8:21 am (PDT)



Hi all,

Having watched the keynote for Tuesday 4 October about Siri I do have a question: is Siri meant to only work on the iPhone 4S?

I sure hope it will work on other Apple devices, such as my iPhone4 and save me a lot of money.

I really could do with having Siri as my humble personal assistant!

James J

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Re: Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Wed Oct 5, 2011 8:28 am (PDT)



Siri has been an iPhone app for years, but was just removed and the server
turned off, so now you must have a 4S to use it. I tried it in the past, no
big deal then. Vlingo worked as well and still does.
Bob

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Re: Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Wed Oct 5, 2011 10:41 am (PDT)




On Oct 5, 11, at 8:20 AM, James Johnson wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Having watched the keynote for Tuesday 4 October about Siri I do have a question: is Siri meant to only work on the iPhone 4S?
>
> I sure hope it will work on other Apple devices, such as my iPhone4 and save me a lot of money.
>
> I really could do with having Siri as my humble personal assistant!
>
> James J

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James: Siri works fine on my 3GS -- no problem. It has been available at the appStore for the past six months or so.

earle
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Home: 650-424-4362
Cell: 650-269-0035
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Re: Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Wed Oct 5, 2011 10:45 am (PDT)




On Oct 5, 11, at 8:28 AM, Bob Cook wrote:

> Siri has been an iPhone app for years, but was just removed and the server
> turned off, so now you must have a 4S to use it. I tried it in the past, no
> big deal then. Vlingo worked as well and still does.
> Bob

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As of this morning (five minutes ago) Siri works fine on my 3GS.

My understanding is it will be turned off for any iPhone except the 4S on October 15.

Ten more days!

earle
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Re: Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Oct 5, 2011 2:05 pm (PDT)



> Having watched the keynote for Tuesday 4 October about Siri I do have a question: is Siri meant to only work on the iPhone 4S?

You haven't been paying attention in the forum, have you?

Asked and answered.

The answer to your question is "Yes."

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Re: Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

Posted by: "Earle Jones" earle.jones@comcast.net   earlejones501

Wed Oct 5, 2011 2:37 pm (PDT)




On Oct 5, 11, at 2:05 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > Having watched the keynote for Tuesday 4 October about Siri I do have a question: is Siri meant to only work on the iPhone 4S?
>
> You haven't been paying attention in the forum, have you?
>
> Asked and answered.
>
> The answer to your question is "Yes."

*
More specifically:

After October 15, Yes.

earle
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3a.

Re: M$ Kills the Zune

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Wed Oct 5, 2011 9:09 am (PDT)



Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>
> On 5 October 2011 01:45, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:keith_w%40dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>
> > Denver Dan wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah, heck, Heith, som undertandng of thos of usss whmake an
> > > ocassssionall typppoo, per favore.
> > >
> > > DnvrDan (my license tag)
> >
> > Heck, no problem with the occasional missteak, but...I did want to know
> > what you had intended!

> I thought you were responding to Harry originally???
>
> Otto

Oooops. I used the wrong pronoun. See, even I can make mistakes.

I meant to say "...what HE had intended!"

I'll watch it from now on. No, I promise! <bigrin>

keith

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4a.

USB drive spins up (Lion)

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Wed Oct 5, 2011 12:27 pm (PDT)



For a few days I've had Time Machine automatic backups turned off.

I've noticed during this time that when booted in Lion my Time
Machine backup drive (connected via USB) spins up and down. There is
nothing else on the drive that any application would need access to.

Why does it spin up? Any way to stop this behavior?

Thanks,
Dave
--
2011 Mac mini 2.7 GHz i7 / 4 GB / 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) and 10.7.1 (Lion)

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Re: USB drive spins up (Lion)

Posted by: "Dave Kelly" imamacwizard@mac.com   imamacwizard

Wed Oct 5, 2011 12:39 pm (PDT)



It will still spin up to mount the drive. If you don't want it to spin up then unmount the drive and you may even want to turn it off.

Dave

On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:27 PM, DaveC wrote:

> For a few days I've had Time Machine automatic backups turned off.
>
> I've noticed during this time that when booted in Lion my Time
> Machine backup drive (connected via USB) spins up and down. There is
> nothing else on the drive that any application would need access to.
>
> Why does it spin up? Any way to stop this behavior?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

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Re: USB drive spins up (Lion)

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Oct 5, 2011 12:47 pm (PDT)



My guess, and it's only an educated guess, is that it spins up whenever the USB bus is "activated," and the USB bus is combined with other busses in various hardware configs so it may not be obvious that you are "activating" it. Another drive, even FW, or a printer, or maybe even the camera.

It's not spinning up because you are calling data, but simply because you've "touched" the drive in some way.

Cheers,
tod

On Oct 5, 2011, at 3:27 PM, DaveC wrote:

> For a few days I've had Time Machine automatic backups turned off.
>
> I've noticed during this time that when booted in Lion my Time
> Machine backup drive (connected via USB) spins up and down. There is
> nothing else on the drive that any application would need access to.
>
> Why does it spin up? Any way to stop this behavior?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> --
> 2011 Mac mini 2.7 GHz i7 / 4 GB / 750 GB
> OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) and 10.7.1 (Lion)
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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Re: USB drive spins up (Lion)

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Wed Oct 5, 2011 3:07 pm (PDT)



Turn it off.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:27:32 -0700, DaveC wrote:
> For a few days I've had Time Machine automatic backups turned off.
>
> I've noticed during this time that when booted in Lion my Time
> Machine backup drive (connected via USB) spins up and down. There is
> nothing else on the drive that any application would need access to.
>
> Why does it spin up? Any way to stop this behavior?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

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Sparrow, the Great Mac Gmail and IMAP Client, Updates to Rid the Wor

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Oct 5, 2011 12:42 pm (PDT)



http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/F1-yZdenJtU/sparrow-the-great-mac-gmail-and-imap-client-updates-to-rid-the-world-of-attachments

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Sparrow, the Great Mac
Gmail and IMAP Client, Updates to Rid the World of Attachments
[Updates] via Lifehacker by Adam Dachis on 10/5/11
In addition to adding some nice speed and interface enhancements (like
swiping up to check for mail), our favorite Mac Gmail client Sparrow
(which works great with IMAP, too!) has decided to take a stand against
email attachments. More »



Things you can do from here:
- Subscribe to Lifehacker using Google Reader
- Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your
favorite sites

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6a.

I was wrong!

Posted by: "Robert" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Wed Oct 5, 2011 2:04 pm (PDT)



As my friend Jim Saklad said, I should have waited.

Talked to a friend that knows a lot more about the iPhone 4GS (actually, a friend of a friend). He says the GPU in the new iPhone is what really makes it superior, so comparing the processor speed of the 4GS to a 1.2 GHz or even a 1.5 GHz Android phone is not a valid comparison.....he thinks the 4GS will prove to be superior in everyday use (unless the Droid phone is on a LTE network).

And, he also agrees with me that the camera is still the best of any phone and that is also rivals some dedicated point and shoot cameras. In any event, thanks again to the GPU, it is able to take pictures really fast, although he did not compare to fast-shooting apps available on iOS or Gingerbread.

I guess I fall into the "never satisfied" category. Wish my iPhone/Android/Windows phones did more, wish my Mac computers did more, wish my fav car didn't cost $20/mile to drive the damn thing.

Bob

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Re: I was wrong!

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Oct 5, 2011 2:10 pm (PDT)



> Talked to a friend that knows a lot more about the iPhone 4GS (actually, a friend of a friend). He says the GPU in the new iPhone is what really makes it superior, so comparing the processor speed of the 4GS to a 1.2 GHz or even a 1.5 GHz Android phone is not a valid comparison.....he thinks the 4GS will prove to be superior in everyday use (unless the Droid phone is on a LTE network).

The new product is "iPhone 4S"

"4G" "LTE/IMT-Advanced" is what Apple is probably holding the iPhone 5 for.

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Re: I was wrong!

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Oct 5, 2011 2:24 pm (PDT)



I'll preface this by saying, I plan on buying the 4S - I have told everyone
who has asked that it is worth the upgrade (meaning if you are eligible for
$199/$299/$399 pricing - but not the 'early upgrade' $449/$549/$649 or 'off
contract' $649/$749/$849 pricing. But I do think for the "general public"
not having a new name might hurt fiscal 1st Qtr sales (remember fiscal year
just ended, earnings call is 18th).

Once the SIRI, camera, and processor commercials start the 4S orders will
increase - who knows maybe they chose the 4S name to be able to meet initial
demand and ramp up production for any of a dozen reasons (previous Japan
issues, etc, etc).

I do think that they will continue the 'tick/tock' upgrades of iPad/iPhone
with iPad getting processor and cellular standard bumps at end of 1st/start
of 2nd calendar quarter IE iPad 3 will have A6 and likely LTE support with
SIRI - even though iPad 2 is more than capable of handling SIRI. While
iPhone is now moved to the end of 3rd/start of 4th calendar quarter getting
the 'tock' getting the processor and cell standards that years iPad got and
adding RAM, software features, etc. That being said, the next iPhone will
likely have LTE (battery life on LTE and coverage areas will be greatly
improved and iPad will have given them experience and data on making it
smaller, faster, and better).

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 17:10, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The new product is "iPhone 4S"
>
> "4G" "LTE/IMT-Advanced" is what Apple is probably holding the iPhone 5 for.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
>
>

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Removing files to fix Safari

Posted by: "us2forever" us2forever@frontiernet.net   rksangelkayann

Wed Oct 5, 2011 2:28 pm (PDT)



Please excuse me if this is not exactly correct, I am having a few memory problems due to an auto accident.

I believe I saved the following so that if I had the problem with Safari closing if "any" red dot is used, I could fix it again.

If the software doesn't have an uninstall feature, quit Safari and try manually removing the third-party add-on files. These files are usually installed in one or more of the following locations:

/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/
/Library/Input Methods/
/Library/InputManagers/
/Library/ScriptingAdditions
~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/
~/Library/Input Methods/
~/Library/InputManagers/
~/Library/ScriptingAdditions
The first four locations listed are in the root-level Library on your hard disk, not the user-level Library in your Home folder.

The tilde (~) represents your Home folder.

To find the Home folder in OS X Lion, open the Finder, hold the Option key, and choose Go > Library.
To find the Home folder in Mac OS X v10.6 and eariler, open the Finder and choose Go > Home. Then, click the Library folder.

Safari is again closing if I shut down any open window and when I re-open it, everything that was open comes back up. I have restarted and also shut down and re-started making sure the I have unchecked the re-open instructions. It has not helped.

The above information would probably help but I do not remember what files in these folders should be trashed. Can anyone help me again.

Thank you so very much.

Kay
MacBook Air
Mac OS X 10.7
1.8 GHz Intel Core i7
4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3
MacBook
Mac OS X 10.6.7
2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
iMac g4
Mac OS X 10.4.11
1.25 GHz PowerPC G
2 GB DDR SDRAM

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8a.

Re: [macsupport] Apple's iPhone Event: Three Big Reasons It Stil

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Wed Oct 5, 2011 3:24 pm (PDT)



Very good point.
I learned the "specs vs. real life" lesson back in the early 1980's, when I decided to upgrade my stereo equipment. I did a ton of reading up on speakers, and had a list of favorites that had the specs that I *thought* I wanted.
When I went around to the various local stereo dealerships and conducted actual listening tests, I fell in love with the sound from a pair of Infinity speakers, which I had never previously given a thought to because of their "poor" bass specs.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.1

On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Dane Robison wrote:

Specs -- whether referring to features
or numbers -- are great tools for selling to consumers who lack the
self confidence to make informed hands-on decisions.

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Sad

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Oct 5, 2011 4:44 pm (PDT)



Requiescat In Pace Stephen Paul Jobs - 5 October, 2011

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Re: Time Machine not foolproof

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Wed Oct 5, 2011 4:45 pm (PDT)




I would not have expected this.

I wrote a bunch of emails, which I then posted to Mail's Outbox. I then connected to my external harddrive. That action connected me to Time Machine for a backup and to a second (daisychained) harddrive for a SuperDuper! startup-drive clone (backup).

Later in the day I connected to a WiFi provider --my local library-- at which time Mail sent my emails (with the earlier timestamps). At some later-still point I accidentally deleted an email, which I could not retrieve. No biggie, I thought, I'll just connect to my external harddrive when I get home and find my missing email.

My surprise is that NONE of my posted-to-Outbox emails actually showed up on Time Machine, even though I had connected AFTER the emails had been posted to Mail's Outbox. The respective [TM and email] timestamps demonstrated the chronology.

The only thing that I can think of is that emails in Apple Mail's Outbox are not REAL to Time Machine and that they only become REAL upon their actual sending.

In a just-now test, this email did not show up in Outbox, which is a Time Machine deficiency. I am not yet running with Lion, so things might be different with it.

Any ideas, similar experiences? Oneal

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11a.

Steve Jobs has Died

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Oct 5, 2011 4:45 pm (PDT)



http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/

If you would like to share your thoughts, memories, and condolences, please
email rememberingsteve@apple.com<https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=rememberingsteve@apple.com>

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Re: Steve Jobs has Died

Posted by: "hester" dhreik@gmail.com   drhester_06107

Wed Oct 5, 2011 5:11 pm (PDT)





R.I.P.

hester
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...> wrote:
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> http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/
>
> If you would like to share your thoughts, memories, and condolences, please
> email rememberingsteve@...<https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=rememberingsteve@...>
>
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Steve Jobs - February 24, 1955, October 5, 2011

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Wed Oct 5, 2011 5:15 pm (PDT)



Rest in Peace.

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Re: Steve Jobs - February 24, 1955, October 5, 2011

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Wed Oct 5, 2011 5:18 pm (PDT)



I was so sad to hear the news ahile ago. Hubie told me as soon as he heard
it on the news

Jeannie

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Rest in Peace.
>
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>
> Group FAQ:
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Operating System re-install ancient iMac

Posted by: "cnltnn" cnltnn@yahoo.com   cnltnn

Wed Oct 5, 2011 5:23 pm (PDT)



Thanks for everyone's help.
I was able to download Quicktime 6 and the missing USB driver. It was missing alot of extensions. I was able to get it operable for the kid. He can now sync my ancient Palm Pilot that I gave him and play educational games on it.

Thanks again,
Carrie

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@...> wrote:
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> What you are missing is part of Quicktime 3.
>

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