10/08/2011

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2676

Messages In This Digest (20 Messages)

1a.
Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ????? From: Ackerman, Ralph
1b.
Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ????? From: Gijzette Strickland
1c.
Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ????? From: Jim Harry
1d.
Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ????? From: Prokic Roger
1e.
Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ????? From: Gijzette Strickland
2a.
Re: what is advantage of pre ordering? From: rkkeller8
2b.
Re: what is advantage of pre ordering? From: Golden One 7
2c.
Re: what is advantage of pre ordering? From: Brian Bozzo
2d.
Re: what is advantage of pre ordering? From: Terri Kitchen
2e.
Selling iPhone 4 on Ebay? From: SFreilinger
3a.
Re: Locked phones From: pabitra saha
3b.
Re: Locked phones From: Rodrigo
3c.
Re: Locked phones From: Rodrigo
4a.
GSM and CDMA? and other questions From: Morgan Mandel
4b.
Re: GSM and CDMA? and other questions From: Wyldceltic1
4c.
Re: GSM and CDMA? and other questions From: Jim Harry
5.
what verizon told me From: jay1price
6.
Trade In From: Paul
7.
Next (5?) iPhone From: Jim Saklad
8.
preorders From: Paul 

Messages

1a.

Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ?????

Posted by: "Ackerman, Ralph" ralph.ackerman@dom.wustl.edu   twistin_nugz

Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:13 pm (PDT)



Bill,
I just got $575 for my iPhone 4 32gb device on ebay.

Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boulware
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:39 AM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ?????

Honestly I wouldn't agree to a 2 year contract with 18 month old hardware.
Not sure what account you have with Sprint to get a 'free' 4 but if that
logic hold true they should be willing to give you a 4S for $100 (4 is $99
for everyone else, etc).

A Friend is eligible for upgrade on AT&T - she got the 4 last year and it
was stolen and went back to 3G, then used one of my upgrades (I have 5 AT&T
lines, 2 of them are just feature phones) and her son put that one in the
toilet. She is saying she is going to buy another 4 for $99 and I am trying
to talk her out of it, to get the 4S.

I haven't even looked yet but I don't think I am going to be able to sell my
4 as I did all of my previous ones, certainly not for the usually $400+ - I
may be able to get $200-$300 max for it (perfect condition, battery rarely
used as I always use Mophie Juice Pack, etc) but I may end up just giving
her my 4 so she doesn't spend $99 and get into another contract to try and
'save' $100...

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:20, rkkeller8 <thekellergroup@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's what I thought too. It's why I am having a hard time
> deciding between a free iPhone 4 and paying for a 4S. A lot of
> the good new things are on the new iOS.
>
> Rich
>
> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > All except Siri. There are a ton of new things - photo editing, iMessage,
> etc.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:01, Brent Lamb <flapdoodle@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I use the camera a lot. The better camera is worth it for me.
> > >
> > > I wish I knew how much of iOS 5 will work on the iPhone 4.
> > >
> > > Sent from Brent's iPhone 4
> > >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Yahoo! Groups Links

1b.

Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ?????

Posted by: "Gijzette Strickland" gsstrickland@gmail.com   elfinbears

Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:56 pm (PDT)



Ralph,

How does this work? Are you with out a phone until your 4S arrive or did you
put in your auction that you will not ship the phone until 10/15?

I've looked at all the websites that I can sell my iPhone4 on including
Gazelle but I can't figure out how I would still have a phone before getting
the money to purchase the new iPhone.

Thanks!

--Gijzette

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Ackerman, Ralph <
ralph.ackerman@dom.wustl.edu> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Bill,
> I just got $575 for my iPhone 4 32gb device on ebay.
>
> Ralph
>
>

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1c.

Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ?????

Posted by: "Jim Harry" jim.harry@harryfamily.com   jnharry

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:33 pm (PDT)



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Gijzette Strickland
<gsstrickland@gmail.com>wrote:

> I've looked at all the websites that I can sell my iPhone4 on including
> Gazelle but I can't figure out how I would still have a phone before
> getting
> the money to purchase the new iPhone.
>
>
Gazelle's quote is good for 30 days, so you can wait for the new phone and
then send yours in once you've switched to it.

Jim H.

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1d.

Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ?????

Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com   rprokic

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:09 pm (PDT)



Wow. That's awesome!!!!

---
Roger Prokic

-=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4 with iOS 5 Gold Master ]=-

On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:58 PM, "Ackerman, Ralph" <ralph.ackerman@dom.wustl.edu> wrote:

> Bill,
> I just got $575 for my iPhone 4 32gb device on ebay.
>
> Ralph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boulware
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:39 AM
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ?????
>
> Honestly I wouldn't agree to a 2 year contract with 18 month old hardware.
> Not sure what account you have with Sprint to get a 'free' 4 but if that
> logic hold true they should be willing to give you a 4S for $100 (4 is $99
> for everyone else, etc).
>
> A Friend is eligible for upgrade on AT&T - she got the 4 last year and it
> was stolen and went back to 3G, then used one of my upgrades (I have 5 AT&T
> lines, 2 of them are just feature phones) and her son put that one in the
> toilet. She is saying she is going to buy another 4 for $99 and I am trying
> to talk her out of it, to get the 4S.
>
> I haven't even looked yet but I don't think I am going to be able to sell my
> 4 as I did all of my previous ones, certainly not for the usually $400+ - I
> may be able to get $200-$300 max for it (perfect condition, battery rarely
> used as I always use Mophie Juice Pack, etc) but I may end up just giving
> her my 4 so she doesn't spend $99 and get into another contract to try and
> 'save' $100...
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:20, rkkeller8 <thekellergroup@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's what I thought too. It's why I am having a hard time
>> deciding between a free iPhone 4 and paying for a 4S. A lot of
>> the good new things are on the new iOS.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All except Siri. There are a ton of new things - photo editing, iMessage,
>> etc.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:01, Brent Lamb <flapdoodle@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use the camera a lot. The better camera is worth it for me.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I knew how much of iOS 5 will work on the iPhone 4.

1e.

Re: Free iPhone 4 or pay for iPhone 4S ?????

Posted by: "Gijzette Strickland" gsstrickland@gmail.com   elfinbears

Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:05 pm (PDT)



Perfect! Thanks Jim.

--Gijzette

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Jim Harry <jim.harry@harryfamily.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Gijzette Strickland
> <gsstrickland@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> > I've looked at all the websites that I can sell my iPhone4 on including
> > Gazelle but I can't figure out how I would still have a phone before
> > getting
> > the money to purchase the new iPhone.
> >
> >
> Gazelle's quote is good for 30 days, so you can wait for the new phone and
> then send yours in once you've switched to it.
>
> Jim H.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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2a.

Re: what is advantage of pre ordering?

Posted by: "rkkeller8" thekellergroup@gmail.com   rkkeller8

Fri Oct 7, 2011 3:17 pm (PDT)





No, the same day 10/14 but no waiting in line and
as long as you preorder early enough your going
to get one on release day.

Rich

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Leek" <mleek@...> wrote:
>
> Do people who pre order receive their new phone before it is released in retail stores?
>
> My thanks for your time.
>
> Mary
>

2b.

Re: what is advantage of pre ordering?

Posted by: "Golden One 7" gryone77@yahoo.com   gryone77

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:33 pm (PDT)



I just ordered through the store. I was told it could be a 2-3 week ship date. Has anyone else heard this? Is there a difference on ship date with the black vs. White

On Oct 7, 2011, at 6:17 PM, "rkkeller8" <thekellergroup@gmail.com> wrote:

No, the same day 10/14 but no waiting in line and
as long as you preorder early enough your going
to get one on release day.

Rich

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Leek" <mleek@...> wrote:
>
> Do people who pre order receive their new phone before it is released in retail stores?
>
> My thanks for your time.
>
> Mary
>

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2c.

Re: what is advantage of pre ordering?

Posted by: "Brian Bozzo" brianbozzo@yahoo.com   roqabilly

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:31 pm (PDT)



So I was told that they have to tell you 2-3 weeks "just in case" they said I should have it on Friday

Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Golden One 7 <gryone77@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I just ordered through the store. I was told it could be a 2-3 week ship date. Has anyone else heard this? Is there a difference on ship date with the black vs. White
>
> On Oct 7, 2011, at 6:17 PM, "rkkeller8" <thekellergroup@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> No, the same day 10/14 but no waiting in line and
> as long as you preorder early enough your going
> to get one on release day.
>
> Rich
>
> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Leek" <mleek@...> wrote:
>>
>> Do people who pre order receive their new phone before it is released in retail stores?
>>
>> My thanks for your time.
>>
>> Mary

2d.

Re: what is advantage of pre ordering?

Posted by: "Terri Kitchen" terrisk35@yahoo.com   terrisk35

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:03 pm (PDT)



I ordered mine same way and got same answer. They have to give you the "worst case" scenario in case there are problems incurred but if it's anything like past launches it will probably be right on time or maybe even ONE day earlier. Good Luck!

Sent from my iPhone that I can't live without....

On Oct 7, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Golden One 7 <gryone77@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I just ordered through the store. I was told it could be a 2-3 week ship date. Has anyone else heard this? Is there a difference on ship date with the black vs. White
>
> On Oct 7, 2011, at 6:17 PM, "rkkeller8" <thekellergroup@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No, the same day 10/14 but no waiting in line and
> as long as you preorder early enough your going
> to get one on release day.
>
> Rich
>
> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Leek" <mleek@...> wrote:
> >
> > Do people who pre order receive their new phone before it is released in retail stores?
> >
> > My thanks for your time.
> >
> > Mary

2e.

Selling iPhone 4 on Ebay?

Posted by: "SFreilinger" SFreilinger@comcast.net   suzyseyephone

Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:04 pm (PDT)



Can any of you who have sold your 4's on ebay send me a link so I can get an idea as to condition, accessories etc....I usually give mine away when I upgrade, but this time I need $ so I can get the 64gb LoL.....I checked Gazelle and for the average 4 it looks like they would pay $200; is it safe to say I could double that on ebay?

Also, on launch day are the lines usually awful...I was considering a pre-order but with so many potentially ahead of me I didn't want to chance it....I have both an Apple store and an AT&T store within walking distance of my home- any idea which one might be a better choice to stand in line at?

Bright Blessings,
Suzy

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3a.

Re: Locked phones

Posted by: "pabitra saha" pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk   pksaha000

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:34 pm (PDT)



Do they do that in Brzil?
I do not think they do it anywhere.
 
best
PKS

________________________________
From: Rodrigo <yid_grps@yahoo.com.br>
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011, 15:31
Subject: [apple-iphone] Locked phones

 

Hello

In the US when you contract expires, does the carrier unlock your phone upon request or they don´t unlock it no matter what?

Rod

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3b.

Re: Locked phones

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Fri Oct 7, 2011 5:17 pm (PDT)



Hi

Yes, actually all cell phones must be unlocked from factory. It is the law and it has been like that for few years.

You might even purchase a locked phone (if you don´t ask for a unlocked one) because the carrier "wants to keep you as a customer" but if you ask they unlock it right away.

Here you can get phone a bit cheaper thru a contract also but they are unlocked. if you decide to leave the contract for whatever reason you pay a fine that was previously agreed and that is it.

Curious in US they don´t unlock even when the contract is over. People should complain about that with the politicians to change the law.

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: pabitra saha
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Locked phones

Do they do that in Brzil?
I do not think they do it anywhere.

best
PKS

________________________________
From: Rodrigo <yid_grps@yahoo.com.br>
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011, 15:31
Subject: [apple-iphone] Locked phones

Hello

In the US when you contract expires, does the carrier unlock your phone upon request or they don´t unlock it no matter what?

Rod

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3c.

Re: Locked phones

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:01 pm (PDT)



I forgot to add:

Recently when I got my iPhone 4 and it was locked to my carrier, which I think it is default here for the iphone only i guess. When I got home I went to my carrier website and entered the iphone IMEI and voil, it was unlocked. I think from all cell phones only the iphone needs to be unlocked by apple. Go figure.

Rod

Hi

Yes, actually all cell phones must be unlocked from factory. It is the law and it has been like that for few years.

You might even purchase a locked phone (if you don´t ask for a unlocked one) because the carrier "wants to keep you as a customer" but if you ask they unlock it right away.

Here you can get phone a bit cheaper thru a contract also but they are unlocked. if you decide to leave the contract for whatever reason you pay a fine that was previously agreed and that is it.

Curious in US they don´t unlock even when the contract is over. People should complain about that with the politicians to change the law.

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: pabitra saha
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Locked phones

Do they do that in Brzil?
I do not think they do it anywhere.

best
PKS

________________________________
From: Rodrigo <yid_grps@yahoo.com.br>
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2011, 15:31
Subject: [apple-iphone] Locked phones

Hello

In the US when you contract expires, does the carrier unlock your phone upon request or they don´t unlock it no matter what?

Rod

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4a.

GSM and CDMA? and other questions

Posted by: "Morgan Mandel" morgan@morganmandel.com   morganmandel

Fri Oct 7, 2011 4:39 pm (PDT)



I'm confused. Does the 4S have both GSM and CDMA which can switch back and forth, or is it one or the other, depending on which carrier I use?
 
Also, I have an iPhone 4 and a 3 from before. I wonder if Best Buy would take my 3 and give me a gift card.
 
If the 4S is the same size as the 4, I wonder if a 4 case would fit on the 4S. I already had a case, but got a free one when the antenna issue came up.

Morgan Mandel

4b.

Re: GSM and CDMA? and other questions

Posted by: "Wyldceltic1" wyldceltic1@me.com   wyldceltic1

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:03 pm (PDT)



yes, iPhone 4 cases will fit the iPhone 4S.

Thank frak for that, I wouldn't want to get a bunch of cases all over again

From my little technological bit of heaven, iPad2!

On Oct 7, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Morgan Mandel <morgan@morganmandel.com> wrote:

> I'm confused. Does the 4S have both GSM and CDMA which can switch back and forth, or is it one or the other, depending on which carrier I use?
>
> Also, I have an iPhone 4 and a 3 from before. I wonder if Best Buy would take my 3 and give me a gift card.
>
> If the 4S is the same size as the 4, I wonder if a 4 case would fit on the 4S. I already had a case, but got a free one when the antenna issue came up.
>
> Morgan Mandel
>
>

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4c.

Re: GSM and CDMA? and other questions

Posted by: "Jim Harry" jim.harry@harryfamily.com   jnharry

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:03 pm (PDT)



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Morgan Mandel <morgan@morganmandel.com>wrote:

> I'm confused. Does the 4S have both GSM and CDMA which can switch back and
> forth, or is it one or the other, depending on which carrier I use?
>

In the US, you buy it for a GSM carrier (AT&T) or a CDMA carrier (Sprint or
Verizon). If you choose AT&T, you cannot use CDMA. If you choose
Sprint/Verizon, it can function as a world phone with a SIM, but not as it's
primary account.

> Also, I have an iPhone 4 and a 3 from before. I wonder if Best Buy would
> take my 3 and give me a gift card.
>

I think so, check here:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Electronics+Promotions/Online-Trade-In/pcmcat133600050011.c?id=pcmcat133600050011.
Not sure how much you will receive.

> If the 4S is the same size as the 4, I wonder if a 4 case would fit on the
> 4S. I already had a case, but got a free one when the antenna issue came up
>

The 4S has the same antennae design as the Verizon iPhone 4, which moved the
mute switch and volume buttons down slightly. Some original cases
(including original bumpers) that were for the AT&T iPhone 4 will not fit
correctly. If the case was advertised to work with AT&T and Verizon (or
just Verizon) *should* fit correctly, but your mileage may vary (YMMV).

Jim H.

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5.

what verizon told me

Posted by: "jay1price" jrp1042000@yahoo.com   jay1price

Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:02 pm (PDT)



I was able to get an iphone for $149.00,,instead of the regular$199.00,which is fine by me.i was told unless i was going outside of the U.S. That the iphone 4 is all i need.Verizon told me that,the proceser was faster,and the camra,was 8mp instead of 5.i can live with the 5mp camra fine.jay

6.

Trade In

Posted by: "Paul" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:33 pm (PDT)



Does anyone know if this trade in deal is for another IPhone or could you take the "$" and put it toward another apple product. Specifically an iPad.
Thanks.
Paul

7.

Next (5?) iPhone

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:05 pm (PDT)



MacRumors has a story on why AnandTech thinks the "real iPhone 5) won't be out until 3rd quarter 2012:

<http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/05/lte-unlikely-to-arrive-in-iphone-until-at-least-q3-2012/>

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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8.

preorders

Posted by: "Paul " paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Fri Oct 7, 2011 11:05 pm (PDT)

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