10/06/2011

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Steve Jobs' Greatest Achievements

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:35 am (PDT)



http://feeds.wired.com/~r/GearFactor/~3/4hMkbwrjebQ/

Ill reiterate what was said last night - who knows what he would have
given us if he had lived another 20-30 years.

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Steve Jobs' Greatest
Achievements via Wired: Gadget Lab by Michael Calore on 10/5/11

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With Steve Jobs' passing, we have lost one of the greatest
technological innovators of our time.

Jobs wasn't just a savvy businessman, he was a visionary who made it
his mission to humanize personal computing, rewriting the rules of user
experience design, hardware design and software design. His actions
reverberated across industry lines: He shook up the music business,
dragged the wireless carriers into the boxing ring, changed the way
software and hardware are sold and forever altered the language of
computer interfaces. Along the way, he built Apple up into one of the
most valuable corporations in the world.

Quite a run. He will be missed.
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Time Magazine stops presses, to release special Steve Jobs issue wit

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Oct 6, 2011 9:05 am (PDT)



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Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Time Magazine stops
presses, to release special Steve Jobs issue with Walter Isaacson essay
via 9to5Mac by Seth Weintraub on 10/6/11



Time is doing a special run of its magazine this week.

Today, TIME releases a special commemorative issue on Steve Jobs to hit
newsstands and tablet devices tomorrow, Friday, October 7.

To produce this special issue, TIME stopped the presses on its
previously planned issue in order to devote its cover and 21 pages of
the full issue to Jobs' life and career. The issue includes a six-page
essay by Jobs' biographer Walter Isaacson, a historical report on Jobs
career by TIME technology reporters Harry McCracken and Lev Grossman
and a photo essay by Diana Walker, who has been shooting Jobs for TIME
since 1982.

The cover image (right, click to enlarge) is a photograph of Jobs taken
by Norman Seeff in 1984. This is the seventh time Jobs has appeared on
the cover of TIME.

The magazine is increasing its print run for this special issue, which
will be available worldwide.

Download the special commemorative cover image here:
http://bit.ly/nNOCKK
View all Jobs' TIME covers here: http://ti.me/d0cFZn
See the latest issue here later today: http://www.time.com/time/magazine

Excerpt of Isaacson's Essay below:



Jobs thus became the greatest business executive of our era, the one
most certain to be remembered a century from now. History will place
him in the pantheon right next to Thomas Edison and Henry Ford. More
than anyone else of his time, he made products that were completely
innovative, combining the beauty of poetry and the power of processors.
With a ferocity that could make working with him as unsettling as it
was inspiring, he also built what became, at least for a period this
past month, the world's most valuable company. And he was able to
infuse into its genetic code the design sensibilities, perfectionism
and imagination that make it likely to be, even decades from now, the
company that thrives best at the intersection of artistry and
technology.

In the early summer of 2004, I got a phone call from him. He had been
scattershot friendly to me over the years, with occasional bursts of
intensity, especially when he was launching a new product that he
wanted on the cover of Time or featured on CNN, places where I'd
worked. But now that I was no longer at either of those places, I
hadn't heard from him much. We talked a bit about the Aspen Institute,
which I had recently joined, and I invited him to speak at our summer
campus in Colorado. He'd be happy to come, he said, but not to be
onstage. He wanted, instead, to take a walk so we could talk.

That seemed a bit odd. I didn't yet know that taking a long walk was
his preferred way to have a serious conversation. It turned out that he
wanted me to write a biography of him. I had recently published one on
Benjamin Franklin and was writing one about Albert Einstein, and my
initial reaction was to wonder, half jokingly, whether he saw himself
as the natural successor in that sequence. Because I assumed that he
was still in the middle of an oscillating career that had many more ups
and downs left, I demurred. Not now, I said. Maybe in a decade or two,
when you retire.

But I later realized that he had called me just before he was going to
be operated on for cancer for the first time. As I watched him battle
that disease, with an awesome intensity combined with an astonishing
emotional romanticism, I came to find him deeply compelling, and I
realized how much his personality was ingrained in the products he
created. His passions, demons, desires, artistry, devilry and obsession
for control were integrally connected to his approach to business, so I
decided to try to write his tale as a case study in creativity.
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Re: Steve Jobs has Died

Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net   andrewbuc

Thu Oct 6, 2011 9:39 am (PDT)



Good cartoon, totally captures his attitude:

http://t.co/3osP06pa

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My tribute to Steve Jobs�..

Posted by: "Jennifer Usher" jennisuzan@gmail.com   jennisuzan2003

Thu Oct 6, 2011 10:48 am (PDT)



Hi all,

I mostly lurk here. Here is my blog post about Steve Jobs passing away....

He will be missed.

Jennifer

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5a.

Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Noname" kquen2008@yahoo.com   kquen2008

Thu Oct 6, 2011 11:05 am (PDT)



Steve Jobs dead at 56, his life ended prematurely by chemotherapy and radiotherapy for cancer

(NaturalNews) It is extremely saddening to see the cost in human lives that modern society pays for its false belief in conventional medicine and the cancer industry in particular

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html#ixzz1a1ezxSoC

KQ

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Re: Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Noname" kquen2008@yahoo.com   kquen2008

Thu Oct 6, 2011 11:06 am (PDT)



Jobs, please forgive the typo. KQ

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Noname" <kquen2008@...> wrote:
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> Steve Jobs dead at 56, his life ended prematurely by chemotherapy and radiotherapy for cancer
>
> (NaturalNews) It is extremely saddening to see the cost in human lives that modern society pays for its false belief in conventional medicine and the cancer industry in particular
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>
> Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html#ixzz1a1ezxSoC
>
> KQ
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[ADMIN] Re: [macsupport] Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Oct 6, 2011 11:21 am (PDT)



This will be never be a place where messages like this are appropriate.

Otto
(Moderating)

On 6 October 2011 19:05, Noname <kquen2008@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Steve Jobs dead at 56, his life ended prematurely by chemotherapy and
> radiotherapy for cancer
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> (NaturalNews) It is extremely saddening to see the cost in human lives that
> modern society pays for its false belief in conventional medicine and the
> cancer industry in particular
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> Learn more:
> http://www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html#ixzz1a1ezxSoC
>
> KQ
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Re: Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Tony Troiano" oraziofotografik@verizon.net   tonee_t2000

Thu Oct 6, 2011 11:58 am (PDT)



Obviously I will not include that URL in this reply other to say the
purpose of that site is pure propaganda with a bias clearly against
Apple, nothing to do about health care or about the fine man who was
Steve Jobs . Disgusting.

Hopefully that poster has been shown the door.

--Tony--

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At 7:21 PM +0100 10/6/11, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

This will be never be a place where messages like this are appropriate.

Otto
(Moderating)

On 6 October 2011 19:05, Noname
<<mailto:kquen2008%40yahoo.com>kquen2008@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Steve Jobs dead at 56, his life ended prematurely by chemotherapy and
> radiotherapy for cancer

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Re: Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Oct 6, 2011 12:06 pm (PDT)



Noname wrote:

> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:macsupportcentral%40yahoogroups.com>, "Noname" <kquen2008@...>
> wrote:
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> > Steve Jobs dead at 56, his life ended prematurely by chemotherapy and
> > radiotherapy for cancer

Not believed, and not proven.

> > (NaturalNews) It is extremely saddening to see the cost in human
> > lives that modern society pays for its false belief in
> > conventional medicine and the cancer industry in particular

Aha. Here comes the advert. Figures.

> > Learn more:
> http://www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html#ixzz1a1ezxSoC
> >
> > KQ

What sort of foolishness is this pronouncement?

Steve's life was ended prematurely by the insidious presence of various
CANCER invasions into part of his body, not anything else. The industry
treating him did what was known to work before, not unsupported
suppositions from alternative procedures.

This comment:

"In the end, however, even Steve Jobs could not overturn the laws of
biochemistry. When you poison the human body, the result is the
deterioration and eventual shut down of the body. Chemotherapy does not
work! This fact should now be obvious, and yet every year, more and more
people choose chemotherapy to their own demise -- people like Farrah
Fawcett, Peter Jennings, Patrick Swayze, Michael Douglas and many others
(http://www.naturalnews.com/027047_c...)."

...is pure crappola.
Believe it at your own risk... All it is is an advertisement for
alternative and unproven medication.

In other words, spam...

keith whaley

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Re: Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Larry Weissman" larryw262@gmail.com   lweissman_2000

Thu Oct 6, 2011 12:22 pm (PDT)



Can we please end this most inappropriate thread right now. And will
you please ban the moronic OP as well. Perhaps he can join the idiots
who protest at military funerals. Thanks.

Larry

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[ADMIN] Re: [macsupport] Re: Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Oct 6, 2011 12:30 pm (PDT)



Please, no more replies to this.

I see no reason to ban unless the OP persists.

Otto

On 6 October 2011 20:22, Larry Weissman <larryw262@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can we please end this most inappropriate thread right now. And will
> you please ban the moronic OP as well. Perhaps he can join the idiots
> who protest at military funerals. Thanks.
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Re: Steve Job, another perspective

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:40 pm (PDT)



> Steve Jobs dead at 56, his life ended prematurely by chemotherapy and radiotherapy for cancer

Wrong. His life was ended by cancer itself. Absent surgery and chemo, he wold have dies years ago.

> (NaturalNews) It is extremely saddening to see the cost in human lives that modern society pays for its false belief in conventional medicine and the cancer industry in particular

BULLSHIT!

> Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033793_Steve_Jobs_chemotherapy.html#ixzz1a1ezxSoC
> KQ

As Charlie Brown said to Schroeder, "It will take Linus 12 years just to un-learn all the wrong stuff Lucy is teaching him."

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6.1.

iMac G5

Posted by: "Collin" Collinwhuber@aol.com   collinwhuber

Thu Oct 6, 2011 12:38 pm (PDT)



Hi, all. I'm looking at purchasing a used iMac G5.

I've heard that some of these have had logic board, power supply, and graphics issues. I've also heard that those problems are mainly with the first generation of the iMac G5s (produced between August 2004 & May 2005). Is this true? Do the "Ambient Light Sensor" models produced between May 2005 & October 2005 have these same problems?

From what I've heard/read, the iMac G5 models with iSight cameras don't have those problems (produced between October 2005 & January 2006) . Is this true?

Thanks for any help that anyone can give! I really appreciate it!

- Collin

MacBook Pro 15" 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo, 8 GB RAM, 60 GB SSD, 320 GB HDD, Snow Leopard 10.6.8
PowerBook G4 15" 1.33 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 120 GB HDD, Tiger 10.4.11
iBook G4 14" 1.33 GHz, 768 MB RAM, 60 GB HDD, Tiger 10.4.11
Power Mac G4 MDD Dual 1.25 GHz, 2 GB RAM, 80 GB HDD, 60 GB HDD, Tiger 10.4.11
iMac G4 15" 800 MHz, 768 MB RAM, 80 GB HDD, Tiger 10.4.11
iMac G3 Indigo 400 MHz, 196 MB RAM, 10 GB HDD, Panther 10.3.9
iPod Classic, 80 GB, Black
iPod Nano first generation, 1 GB, Black
Original iPhone, 4GB
iPhone 3G, 16 GB, Black
iPhone 4, 16 GB, Black
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Re: iMac G5

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:50 pm (PDT)



At 3:37 PM -0400 10/6/11, Collin wrote:

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>Hi, all. I'm looking at purchasing a used iMac G5.
>
>I've heard that some of these have had logic board, power supply,
>and graphics issues. I've also heard that those problems are mainly
>with the first generation of the iMac G5s (produced between August
>2004 & May 2005). Is this true? Do the "Ambient Light Sensor" models
>produced between May 2005 & October 2005 have these same problems?
>
>From what I've heard/read, the iMac G5 models with iSight cameras
>don't have those problems (produced between October 2005 & January
>2006) . Is this true?
>
>Thanks for any help that anyone can give! I really appreciate it!

Right on both suppositions. The problem was with the first of the
three generations of G5 iMacs. Given my druthers, I'd take the 2nd
one, as the one with the iSight is more complicated, and does not
open anywhere near as easily. Furthermore, with a WebCam available
for $30 or so you might prefer that, as it is aimable, whereas the
built in one is fixed to the monitor.
I've had both first and third generation G5 iMacs. I did have the
known problem with the first one, and Apple fixed it under warranty.
(They did it for three years after purchase, even if you did not have
Apple Care.) Both were good machines. I used the older one with the
old Apple iSight, and it was better than the built-in camera. Too
bad they dropped it, but it was not THAT much better than what you
can now get as a USB camera for $30. In fact, I just got one, even
though my Intel iMac has a built in one. I like the fact it can be
aimed. It is a MacAlly.

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Re: iMac G5

Posted by: "Collin" Collinwhuber@aol.com   collinwhuber

Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:59 pm (PDT)



Thanks Barry! I'll look into a second generation iMac G5 then. I'll probably get the 1.8 ghz model. They're pretty cheap now.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

> At 3:37 PM -0400 10/6/11, Collin wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Hi, all. I'm looking at purchasing a used iMac G5.
> >
> >I've heard that some of these have had logic board, power supply,
> >and graphics issues. I've also heard that those problems are mainly
> >with the first generation of the iMac G5s (produced between August
> >2004 & May 2005). Is this true? Do the "Ambient Light Sensor" models
> >produced between May 2005 & October 2005 have these same problems?
> >
> >From what I've heard/read, the iMac G5 models with iSight cameras
> >don't have those problems (produced between October 2005 & January
> >2006) . Is this true?
> >
> >Thanks for any help that anyone can give! I really appreciate it!
>
> Right on both suppositions. The problem was with the first of the
> three generations of G5 iMacs. Given my druthers, I'd take the 2nd
> one, as the one with the iSight is more complicated, and does not
> open anywhere near as easily. Furthermore, with a WebCam available
> for $30 or so you might prefer that, as it is aimable, whereas the
> built in one is fixed to the monitor.
> I've had both first and third generation G5 iMacs. I did have the
> known problem with the first one, and Apple fixed it under warranty.
> (They did it for three years after purchase, even if you did not have
> Apple Care.) Both were good machines. I used the older one with the
> old Apple iSight, and it was better than the built-in camera. Too
> bad they dropped it, but it was not THAT much better than what you
> can now get as a USB camera for $30. In fact, I just got one, even
> though my Intel iMac has a built in one. I like the fact it can be
> aimed. It is a MacAlly.
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
>
>

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Re: iMac G5

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:10 pm (PDT)



At 4:58 PM -0400 10/6/11, Collin wrote:

>Thanks Barry! I'll look into a second generation iMac G5 then. I'll
>probably get the 1.8 ghz model. They're pretty cheap now.

The first generation had two speeds, 1.6 and 1.8. There were three
models, two 17" and one 20". The faster 17" and the 20" were 1.8 and
had a SuperDrive. The slower one had a combo drive. (Can read DVD's
but not burn them). The Second Generation, ambient light sensor, had
the same three models, but the speeds were bumped up to 1.8 and 2.0.
Probably you should get the 2.0 with the SuperDrive.

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Re: iMac G5

Posted by: "Collin" Collinwhuber@aol.com   collinwhuber

Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:12 pm (PDT)



Thanks! I'm probably just going to get the cheapest option which will probably be the 1.8 GHz. At this point in time, there not that much performance difference between them.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net> wrote:

> At 4:58 PM -0400 10/6/11, Collin wrote:
>
> >Thanks Barry! I'll look into a second generation iMac G5 then. I'll
> >probably get the 1.8 ghz model. They're pretty cheap now.
>
> The first generation had two speeds, 1.6 and 1.8. There were three
> models, two 17" and one 20". The faster 17" and the 20" were 1.8 and
> had a SuperDrive. The slower one had a combo drive. (Can read DVD's
> but not burn them). The Second Generation, ambient light sensor, had
> the same three models, but the speeds were bumped up to 1.8 and 2.0.
> Probably you should get the 2.0 with the SuperDrive.
>
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
>
>

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Slightly OT: Getting an original Mac to work

Posted by: "mkaplan22" view@att.net   mkaplan22

Thu Oct 6, 2011 12:42 pm (PDT)



Moved by events, I unpacked my original Mac (512K) and plugged it in. Everything works except for the mouse, Model M0100. I'm getting vertical tracking but no horizontal tracking. I opened the trackball assembly and cleaned the rollers, but that didn't help. I can't figure out how to open the entire assembly. Any suggestions? TIA.

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Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard

Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil

Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:29 pm (PDT)



Hello,

What is the maximum size of a USB external hard drive on Snow Leopard?

I had Disk Utility fail to partition a 1TB external USB drive as 1
partition.

John F. Richardson

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Re: Slightly OT: Getting an original Mac to work

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:00 pm (PDT)



At 7:42 PM +0000 10/6/11, mkaplan22 wrote:

>Moved by events, I unpacked my original Mac (512K) and plugged it
>in. Everything works except for the mouse, Model M0100. I'm getting
>vertical tracking but no horizontal tracking. I opened the trackball
>assembly and cleaned the rollers, but that didn't help. I can't
>figure out how to open the entire assembly. Any suggestions? TIA.

With the ball out of the mouse turn the rollers themselves. Do they
work? Here's my totally wild guess. You will find that the horizontal
roller, after so many years, is stuck. Push it with your finger and
you might free it up. If it does move, but not readily, then maybe a
very small drop of oil at its ends.
This, of course, is pre-ADB, so this mouse would not be easily
replaced. I have more ADB mice than I can shake a stick at, so I'm
sorry I can't help you there.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Re: Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:00 pm (PDT)



At 1:29 PM -0700 10/6/11, John Richardson wrote:

>
>What is the maximum size of a USB external hard drive on Snow Leopard?

If it can run Snow Leopard it is not one of the earlier machines that
cannot run a drive of over 128GB. Therefore, whatever is now
manufactured will work.

>I had Disk Utility fail to partition a 1TB external USB drive as 1
>partition.

I suspect you are doing that wrong. You are partitioning the drive
and not the volume, aren't you? Another thing, when you go to
partition do not choose "Current," as it really won't do anything.
Instead choose the number of partitions you want.
--
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barryaus@fuse.net

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Re: Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard

Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil

Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:49 pm (PDT)



Hello Barry,

Oops....wrong OS in the original post. It is plain old Leopard.

I switched from current to 2 and have two wonderful partitions [after reading
the manual and your post] that mount and are happy. I just can't get only 1
partition out of the IOMEGA drive.

Thanks for the info.

John F. Richardson

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Subject: Re: [macsupport] Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard

At 1:29 PM -0700 10/6/11, John Richardson wrote:

>
>What is the maximum size of a USB external hard drive on Snow Leopard?

If it can run Snow Leopard it is not one of the earlier machines that
cannot run a drive of over 128GB. Therefore, whatever is now
manufactured will work.

>I had Disk Utility fail to partition a 1TB external USB drive as 1
>partition.

I suspect you are doing that wrong. You are partitioning the drive
and not the volume, aren't you? Another thing, when you go to
partition do not choose "Current," as it really won't do anything.
Instead choose the number of partitions you want.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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7f.

On/off switches on hard drives

Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil

Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:05 pm (PDT)



Hello,

I have one USB external drive without an "on/off" switch. I have one USB
external drive with an "on/off" switch. The drive without a physical
"on/off" switch automatically shuts off when I shut down the computer. I
turn off the other.

Just curious. Does a Physical "on/off" drive have an advantage over the type
of drive without an "on/off" switch [or vice versa].

Note: All questions asked today are in honor of the culture of Steve Jobs
which compels strangers to provide succor and comfort to others no matter
what the nature of the question.

John F. Richardson

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Re: Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil

Thu Oct 6, 2011 1:57 pm (PDT)



Hello,

There is still the Dictate app [and related Nuance apps] for the iPhone4 [and possibly iPhone3 versions].

John F. Richardson

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Subject: Re: [macsupport] Siri - A Humble Personal Assistant

On Oct 5, 11, at 2:05 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > Having watched the keynote for Tuesday 4 October about Siri I do have a question: is Siri meant to only work on the iPhone 4S?
>
> You haven't been paying attention in the forum, have you?
>
> Asked and answered.
>
> The answer to your question is "Yes."

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After October 15, Yes.

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'You've got to find what you love,' Jobs says

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Thu Oct 6, 2011 2:42 pm (PDT)



http://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html

Stanford Report, June 14, 2005
This is a prepared text of the Commencement address delivered by Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, on June 12, 2005.

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