11/18/2011

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2789

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: IOS5 and old email From: bj
1b.
Re: IOS5 and old email From: Christopher Collins
1c.
Re: IOS5 and old email From: Rodrigo
1d.
Re: IOS5 and old email From: Betsy Schwartz
2.
Voice Memo I Deleted Still Hidden In iPhone! From: Alvin Auerbach
3a.
Re: address book sync From: Cochi
4a.
Re: AirPrint From: Christopher Collins
5.
Iphone 4s and Canada From: ycatscorgi
6a.
iPhone 4s conflict resultion not working From: ycatscorgi
6b.
Re: iPhone 4s conflict resultion not working From: bj
7.
Custom icons From: Susan Ferraglio
8a.
Siri Easter Eggs From: K.Cruce, Sr.
8b.
Re: Siri Easter Eggs From: bj
9.1.
iPhone 4S From: Karen in CA
9.2.
Re: iPhone 4S From: Donald
9.3.
Re: iPhone 4S From: bj
9.4.
Re: iPhone 4S From: Karen In CA
9.5.
Re: iPhone 4S From: Karen In CA
9.6.
Re: iPhone 4S From: Otto Nikolaus
9.7.
Re: iPhone 4S From: Jim Saklad
10a.
photo quality of iPhone 4s ? From: Mary Leek
10b.
Re: photo quality of iPhone 4s ? From: Jim Saklad
11.
iPhone 4 sleep button From: bj
12.
iPhone 4S Carrier Quality: AT&T Wins For Data Speed, Verizon For Cal From: Bill Boulware
13a.
Re: Update All Button From: Patrick Milligan

Messages

1a.

Re: IOS5 and old email

Posted by: "bj" bjones44@verizon.net   jblair44

Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:46 am (PST)



I have a POP3 account. My phone will d/l any messages in my inbox that it
doesn't (somehow!) know it's already gotten It won't d/l any messages if
I've already either deleted them or moved them to a different folder in my
ips mailbox.
bj

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Wood
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:44 PM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] IOS5 and old email

If you email provider uses pop 3 protocol it will always do this.

On 17/11/2011, at 10:16 PM, sbailey131 <mailto:susanbailey%40cox.net> wrote:

> When I updated to 5 on my GS3, it regurgitated ~1800 old emails, which I
> had to delete one at a time. Now that my 4S is here and loaded, those
> emails are back. I've searched the manual and this group w/o success: Is
> there another way to delete those pesky things en masse?
>

1b.

Re: IOS5 and old email

Posted by: "Christopher Collins" iphone@analogdigital.com.au   cjc1959au

Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:46 am (PST)



Only if you have it setup to store emails on the server.

By default, a POP3 account will download the mails to your email client and then delete them from the server.

cjc

On 18/11/2011, at 12:44 PM, Andrew Wood wrote:

> If you email provider uses pop 3 protocol it will always do this.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 17/11/2011, at 10:16 PM, sbailey131 <susanbailey@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > When I updated to 5 on my GS3, it regurgitated ~1800 old emails, which I had to delete one at a time. Now that my 4S is here and loaded, those emails are back. I've searched the manual and this group w/o success: Is there another way to delete those pesky things en masse?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Susan Bailey
> > Oakton, VA
> >

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1c.

Re: IOS5 and old email

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:16 am (PST)



If you have emails in your inbox on the server side they will eventually be downloaded.

Delete (or move somewhere else) all the inbox messages on the server if you want to start from scratch, because the message counter is in the client application and if the application is new, the counter is zero so it will download all the messages on inbox again.

If you don´t want this to happen again, set your client application to "delete messages on the server" after downloading them.

On my case I usually set my email client to "delete messages on the server after XX days", so I always have a backup of the latest email.

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Wood
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] IOS5 and old email

If you email provider uses pop 3 protocol it will always do this.

Sent from my iPhone

On 17/11/2011, at 10:16 PM, sbailey131 <susanbailey@cox.net> wrote:

> When I updated to 5 on my GS3, it regurgitated ~1800 old emails, which I had to delete one at a time. Now that my 4S is here and loaded, those emails are back. I've searched the manual and this group w/o success: Is there another way to delete those pesky things en masse?
>
> TIA,
> Susan Bailey
> Oakton, VA
>
>

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1d.

Re: IOS5 and old email

Posted by: "Betsy Schwartz" betsys@gmail.com   betsys99

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:24 am (PST)



POP email uses a file stored locally on the device to keep track of
which messages are not already downloaded. Sounds like apple
backup/restore is not copying this file. There should also be a
setting to tell the server to throw away messages after downloading,
or to keep them for a certain number of days. Back when I used POP I
set it to two days to allow me time to recover from any computer
errors.

I'd recommend switching to IMAP, though, if your provider supports it.
IMAP keeps your mail on the server and lets you access it from
multiple devices (like your PC, or iPhone, or Webmail). You can also
save mail offline if your online folder gets too big.

2.

Voice Memo I Deleted Still Hidden In iPhone!

Posted by: "Alvin Auerbach" Alvin.Auerbach@verizon.net   potentmap

Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:46 am (PST)



I deleted some voice memos from my 3GS, some as long as a year ago.
Now I�m using a 4S with all files transferred from the 3GS.
Using a program called iExplorer, I opened the 4S as if the 4S was a normal mounted volume, and in a folder named Recordings, I found many voice memos that I deleted when they were in the 3GS!

What�s going on here? Why isn�t a deleted voice memo actually deleted? Are there other types of file that I deleted still in the iPhone?
This violates my privacy!

Alvin

3a.

Re: address book sync

Posted by: "Cochi" cochiho3@gmail.com   chihoco

Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:46 am (PST)



Ill try it. Thanks!

Rey

On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:

> Hi Rey,
>
> Look at the phone when syncing to iTunes. If the iTunes still says address book is syncing via iTunes then you may have some corrupted sync data. Pick whichever one you want to be the master and have that overwrite the other as opposed to syncing.
>
> Once you do that once the sync should work..
>
> Mobile Reply
>
> On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Cochi <cochiho3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > I never used mobile me but I did update my Mac to to iCloud but i change the settings (in iTunes) to sync to my Mac whenever I plug in my iPhone.
> >
> > Rey
> >
> > On Nov 17, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Jay Abraham wrote:
> >
> > > Were you set up for wireless syncing before iOS5 through MobileMe? Did you change to iCloud as part of the upgrade to iOS5?
> > >
> > > If so did you update to your Mac to sync through iCloud as well?
> > >
> > > I updated to iOS5 on my phone but didn't go to iCloud - my sync still works properly.
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Cochi wrote:
> > >
> > > > Before I upgraded to iOS5, whenever I input anything in the address book on my iPhone, it updates the one on my Mac when I sync. After IOS5, whenever I add or correct an entry on my phone, it doesn't reflect on my Mac anymore.
> > > >
> > > > How do I correct this? I don't want to input on my phone then input again on my Mac. It defeats the purpose of syncing.
> > > >
> > > > Rey
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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4a.

Re: AirPrint

Posted by: "Christopher Collins" iphone@analogdigital.com.au   cjc1959au

Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:46 am (PST)



AirPrint = Print Over The Air

eg: an iDevice & a printer must be connected to the same Wi-Fi network for AirPrint to work

cjc

On 18/11/2011, at 2:19 PM, <listserves-1@rochester.rr.com> <listserves-1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

> I thought the idea of AirPrint was so you could print even if you were not home by maybe logging into your wifi router. However, I have yet to figure it out yet. When ever I try new stuff like this, something always gets screwed up.
>
> Ellen_,___
>

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5.

Iphone 4s and Canada

Posted by: "ycatscorgi" yycats@gmail.com   ycatscorgi

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:17 am (PST)



I will be traveling near the Canadian border in the near future and need to know how to avoid extra charges when my iphone 4s wants to connect to a Canadian tower.

Vicki

6a.

iPhone 4s conflict resultion not working

Posted by: "ycatscorgi" yycats@gmail.com   ycatscorgi

Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:52 am (PST)



I am getting

Unable to retrieve conflict information from the sync server.

when I try and sync notes with outlook

Help?

Vicki

6b.

Re: iPhone 4s conflict resultion not working

Posted by: "bj" bjones44@verizon.net   jblair44

Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 am (PST)



-----Original Message-----
From: ycatscorgi
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:49 AM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apple-iphone] iPhone 4s conflict resultion not working

I am getting

Unable to retrieve conflict information from the sync server.

when I try and sync notes with outlook

Help?

Vicki
===================================================

I've gotten something like that too (with my 4 syncing w/ Outlook2010).

I got some sort of answer in a usenet group; maybe I can track it down
later.
(I'm off to the Genius Bar now....)
bj

7.

Custom icons

Posted by: "Susan Ferraglio" bladessf@aol.com   bladessf2000

Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:20 am (PST)



I sent a reply to Alice at the iPhone group. Usually it appears quickly but hadn't. I am resending fresh and to the iPad group. Hope this gets posted.

I got this and it works great but there is a free way with icons provided. I kept a couple of the ones I created but used a couple of the free ones which were more professional ( wifi and bluetooth)
The free site is very easy to use. There are full directions - scroll down to near the bottom.
So now I have my custom created ones and those at this site.
Does not require jailbreaking

http://iphoneza.co.za/IconSettings/

Hth
Sue

Sent from my iPhone

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8a.

Siri Easter Eggs

Posted by: "K.Cruce, Sr." kcruce@bellsouth.net   kcruce

Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:20 am (PST)



I asked Siri what the temp was in Tallahassee,Fl and she said" the temp
is 37 Degrees." I said "Thank You", Siri said, "Your welcome, as always."
 
I then said, "will you marry me?", she answered, "Let's just be friends, O.K.,?"
 
I've always talked to myself and my phone, .............now it talks back!. LOL
 
KeithC.

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8b.

Re: Siri Easter Eggs

Posted by: "bj" bjones44@verizon.net   jblair44

Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 am (PST)



-----Original Message-----
From: K.Cruce, Sr.
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:59 AM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apple-iphone] Siri Easter Eggs

I've always talked to myself and my phone, .............now it talks back!.
LOL
====================================

There's an old saying about "talking to yourself is not a problem, it's only
when you start *talking back* that you know you're crazy!"

Now we have our phones to help us out with that too.
:-)
bj

9.1.

iPhone 4S

Posted by: "Karen in CA" kaleeca@gmail.com   lolawally

Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:32 am (PST)



Had no interest in the 4S but now I do.

Do the 4 cases fit the 4S phone?

Still thinking about the 4S, is it worth it or about the same as the 4? Not
too technical please.

Thanks and everyone have a great weekend.

Karen

9.2.

Re: iPhone 4S

Posted by: "Donald" xlnt74@sbcglobal.net   xlnt74@sbcglobal.net

Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:41 am (PST)





--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Karen in CA" <kaleeca@...> wrote:
>
> Had no interest in the 4S but now I do.
>
> Do the 4 cases fit the 4S phone?
>
It is my understanding that all accessories, including cases, from the 4 work the same with the 4s. The Apple store, in the description for the bumper says " Fits iPhone 4 and 4s "'

> Still thinking about the 4S, is it worth it or about the same as
> the 4? Not
> too technical please.
>
Worth it depends on your needs/wants. The 4s has a faster processor, more RAM and a much better camera. Not to mention SIRI. You will have to decide if one ( or more ) of those is somthing that you want/need enough to upgrade.

> Thanks and everyone have a great weekend.
>
> Karen
>
Same to you;
Bruce

9.3.

Re: iPhone 4S

Posted by: "bj" bjones44@verizon.net   jblair44

Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 am (PST)



Is there something about the 4 that is making you feel constrained that
would be improved by the 4S?

Or is all this talk about how neato it is just making you feel "itchy"?
bj
(trying to restrain that itch myself even though my 4 does everything & more
than I need!)

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen in CA
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:26 AM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apple-iphone] iPhone 4S

Had no interest in the 4S but now I do.

Do the 4 cases fit the 4S phone?

Still thinking about the 4S, is it worth it or about the same as the 4? Not
too technical please.

9.4.

Re: iPhone 4S

Posted by: "Karen In CA" kaleeca@gmail.com   lolawally

Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:17 am (PST)



Thank you Bruce

Karen in CA

On Nov 18, 2011, at 8:31 AM, "Donald" <xlnt74@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>
> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Karen in CA" <kaleeca@...> wrote:
>>
>> Had no interest in the 4S but now I do.
>>
>> Do the 4 cases fit the 4S phone?
>>
> It is my understanding that all accessories, including cases, from the 4 work the same with the 4s. The Apple store, in the description for the bumper says " Fits iPhone 4 and 4s "'
>
>> Still thinking about the 4S, is it worth it or about the same as
>> the 4? Not
>> too technical please.
>>
> Worth it depends on your needs/wants. The 4s has a faster processor, more RAM and a much better camera. Not to mention SIRI. You will have to decide if one ( or more ) of those is somthing that you want/need enough to upgrade.
>
>> Thanks and everyone have a great weekend.
>>
>> Karen
>>
> Same to you;
> Bruce
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

9.5.

Re: iPhone 4S

Posted by: "Karen In CA" kaleeca@gmail.com   lolawally

Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:23 am (PST)



Daughter has my old 3G and its acting up and needs a new one. I thought of getting 4S & giving her my 4 as she can't afford the phone.

Karen in CA

On Nov 18, 2011, at 8:27 AM, "bj" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote:

> Is there something about the 4 that is making you feel constrained that
> would be improved by the 4S?
>
> Or is all this talk about how neato it is just making you feel "itchy"?
> bj
> (trying to restrain that itch myself even though my 4 does everything & more
> than I need!)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen in CA
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:26 AM
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [apple-iphone] iPhone 4S
>
> Had no interest in the 4S but now I do.
>
> Do the 4 cases fit the 4S phone?
>
> Still thinking about the 4S, is it worth it or about the same as the 4? Not
> too technical please.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

9.6.

Re: iPhone 4S

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:07 pm (PST)



If it's acting up why not try a full reset?

Otto

On 18 November 2011 18:18, Karen In CA <kaleeca@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daughter has my old 3G and its acting up and needs a new one. I thought
> of getting 4S & giving her my 4 as she can't afford the phone.
>

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9.7.

Re: iPhone 4S

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:05 pm (PST)



> Daughter has my old 3G and its acting up and needs a new one.
> I thought of getting 4S & giving her my 4 as she can't afford the phone.

1. "Acting up" can often be fixed, if we know what is actually happening.

2. AT&T will sell you a 3GS, with a 2-year contract, for $0.00

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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10a.

photo quality of iPhone 4s ?

Posted by: "Mary Leek" mleek@sbcglobal.net   mleek@sbcglobal.net

Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:40 am (PST)



I haven't seen much discussion regarding the photo quality of the 4s. If you've taken photos with this new phone, would you give us your opinion. Or if anyone knows a site that has uploaded photos taken with the 4s, would you please post the URL.

For iPhone owners who are also into genealogy, there is a free app you can use to take photos of headstones in your local cemetery. The app takes care of automatically uploading the photos and volunteers then enter the vitals data from the photos of the headstones. With the use of GPS, the burial locations and cemeteries are correctly identified. It's an easy way to participate in building a free on-line resource for family historians - genealogists.

For anyone who might be interested, the link to the app at the iPhone app store is located at the following site.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/billion-graves/id437939495?mt=8

Mary

10b.

Re: photo quality of iPhone 4s ?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:59 am (PST)



> I haven't seen much discussion regarding the photo quality of the 4s. If you've taken photos with this new phone, would you give us your opinion. Or if anyone knows a site that has uploaded photos taken with the 4s, would you please post the URL.

I have owned a 3G, a 3GS, a 4, and now a 4S.
The image quality has clearly and obviously improved with every increment.
The 4S camera and images are by far the best from an iPhone, and from reviews I've read, probably the best fron ANY phone.

I have been an advanced amateur photographer for roughly 50 years, currently using a Nikon D300s, with an assortment of lenses.

The aspects that differentiate phone cams from quality point-and-shoot cameras today are prett much limited to: a) sensor size (a larger one allows improved low-light imaging) and b) zoom lenses.

Sensors (and imaging software) are continually improving, and the output of the 4S's sensor today is more or less as good as that of the much larger sensor in the top-of-the-line Nikon point and shoot of 8-10 years ago.

-- From my iPad --

11.

iPhone 4 sleep button

Posted by: "bj" bjones44@verizon.net   jblair44

Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:53 am (PST)



my sleep button has goon kerplooey.
I'm off to the GB to see about it in a little while.
At least I have AppleCare.
If it turns out that they have to replace the phone I will have some
*seriouslyserious* need to restrain myself from going ahead & upgrading
early to the 4S.
aaarrggghhhh!
bj

12.

iPhone 4S Carrier Quality: AT&T Wins For Data Speed, Verizon For Cal

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:36 pm (PST)



http://feeds.wired.com/~r/GearFactor/~3/tTKzC3XhxWs/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: iPhone 4S Carrier
Quality: AT&T Wins For Data Speed, Verizon For Call Reliability via
Wired: Gadget Lab by Christina Bonnington on 11/18/11

AT&T provides the highest data speeds for iPhone 4S owners. Image:
Metrico

The iPhone 4S is available on three major carriers, leaving potential
buyers to wonder whether AT&T, Verizon or Sprint is the better network
choice. Pricing plans aside, carrier quality is a significant factor in
anyone's purchasing decision, and now consumers have hard data to help
them choose: A just-released study reports AT&T is tops for fast data
speeds, while Verizon is the most reliable when it comes to making
phone calls.

Sprint's main draw is that it offers unlimited, albeit slow, data.

The study was performed by Metrico Wireless, a mobile device
performance analytics firm. To test network performance, Metrico made
6,000 voice calls, conducted 8,000 data download/upload tests (both
moving and stationary), and downloaded more than 21,000 web pages.

The tests found that Verizon dropped calls 2.1 percent of the time,
while AT&T dropped 2.8 percent of calls, and Sprint lost 3.7 percent of
calls. The average dropped call rate for the entire mobile industry is
1.4 percent. Although Sprint dropped the most calls, it had the highest
call quality on the uplink (outbound calls), while AT&T had the best
downlink call quality (inbound calls).

Sprint suffered from the highest number of 4S call failures. Image:
Metrico

With regard to maximum data speeds, AT&T led the pack at 6,047Kbps,
with Verizon a distant second at 2,371Kbps, and Sprint crawling in last
with only 1,767Kbps. It's unclear, however, exactly where Metrico
tested data bandwidth, and as any iPhone-toting San Francisco resident
will tell you, data quality can be terrible in areas with high
concentrations of tech geeks.

The original iPhone launched exclusively with AT&T, which was the sole
carrier of the iPhone until Apple announced that Verizon would also
begin carrying the iPhone 4 in January 2011. Prior to the launch of the
iPhone 4S, rumors swirled that the phone would land on Sprint, and
ultimately proved true. Of the three carriers, Sprint is the only one
that provides a true unlimited data plan.

Metrico's results are consistent with what we found back when Verizon
began offering the iPhone 4: AT&T offered better download speeds, while
Verizon had better coverage.

Another important stat Metrico found was that the iPhone 4S performed
perfectly across all three networks when it came to data task
reliability. In short, 100 percent of the time, the phone was able to
complete web page loads, stationary downloads, and stationary uploads.
This contrasts with an earlier Metrico study from March 2011 that found
Verizon had a higher download success rate when the phone was
stationary, and AT&T had a higher rate while the phone was moving.

So what's the bottom line? It looks like you're going to get a
relatively positive data-downloading experience no matter which carrier
you choose, if only because you will be able to download data. But if
you value downloading material quickly, you should go with AT&T. If
call reliability is paramount, stick with Verizon, and if you want to
use a lot of data but don't care about speed, go Sprint.

via The Next Web

13a.

Re: Update All Button

Posted by: "Patrick Milligan" pmilligan@prodigy.net   pmilligan@prodigy.net

Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:05 pm (PST)



I have IOS 5.0.1 on my iPhone 3GS, and my App Store Update All button works at it should. I though it was not working for a while, but the App Store was busy downloading my Navigation App, which takes forever. I plugged the iPhone into the charger and let it run for a couple of hours and it's fine now.

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