11/16/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8565

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Air's lighted keyboard From: Bill Boulware
1b.
Re: Air's lighted keyboard From: Bill B.
1c.
Re: Air's lighted keyboard From: Otto Nikolaus
2a.
Re: Tivo Transfer on Lion From: Jay Abraham
3a.
Re: Steve's last project?? From: mkaplan22
4a.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Denver Dan
4b.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Harry Flaxman
4c.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Denver Dan
4d.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Harry Flaxman
4e.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Otto Nikolaus
4f.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Tod Hopkins
4g.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Gail Hensler
4h.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: James Robertson
4i.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Randy B. Singer
4j.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Randy B. Singer
4k.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: James Robertson
4l.
Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Randy B. Singer
5a.
Any Black Friday sale rumors for iPads? From: neelie
5b.
Re: Any Black Friday sale rumors for iPads? From: Tod Hopkins
6.1.
Re: Directories From: Tod Hopkins
7a.
Re: Adobe Ends Mobile Flash From: Dave Sherlock
8a.
Re: I.yimg.com From: HAL9000
9a.
Re: Sidebar issues From: Jay Abraham
9b.
Re: Sidebar issues From: Otto Nikolaus
10.
Un-forward From: Guy Kudlemyer

Messages

1a.

Re: Air's lighted keyboard

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:08 am (PST)



The backlit keyboard is the best part, I want to sell my 1st gen 13" all
the time and end up using my 2nd gen 11" even though I would prefer the
larger screen for the keyboard.

It is only 'on' when it is dark but if you want, you can disable it in
System Preferences > Keyboard

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 13:03, Ken <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Can you turn off the lighted keyboard on the MacBook Air? I'm deciding
> between a closeout and a new one, and would only get the new one if I can
> turn off the light. Thanks.
> Ken S.
>
>
>

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1b.

Re: Air's lighted keyboard

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:24 am (PST)



At 6:03 PM +0000 11/16/11, Ken wrote:
>Can you turn off the lighted keyboard on the MacBook Air? I'm deciding between a closeout and a new one, and would only get the new one if I can turn off the light. Thanks.<<

A free program called Lab Tick <http://labtick.proculo.de/> gives control over keyboard lighting. I esp like a keyboard shortcut to toggle the lights on and off. It also has a menubar control to adjust brightness. You will want to uncheck Illuminate Keyboard in low light conditions if you use this program to prevent flicker.

Bill

--
____________________________
Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8

1c.

Re: Air's lighted keyboard

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:36 am (PST)



On 16 November 2011 19:24, Bill B. <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
> A free program called Lab Tick <http://labtick.proculo.de/> gives control
> over keyboard lighting. I esp like a keyboard shortcut to toggle the lights
> on and off. It also has a menubar control to adjust brightness. You will
> want to uncheck Illuminate Keyboard in low light conditions if you use this
> program to prevent flicker.
>

My PowerBook has keys for this, F9 and F10. Has this function been removed?

Otto

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2a.

Re: Tivo Transfer on Lion

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:10 am (PST)



Jim,

I've been trying to use iTivo and when comparing both times it looks comparable. However on my new Mac mini, iTivo seems to take a long time to launch and connect to the Tivo. During this time it seems unresponsive. Also when switching Tivo boxes, it takes around 30 sec - 1 minute to switch over and looks unresponsive. Is this normal or is there something I should do to fix what's happening on my Mac.

Jay

On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Jim Harry wrote:

>
> On Nov 16, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Jim Harry <jim.harry@harryfamily.com> wrote:
> > I'm going to try a standard def program and see how it
> > compares.
>
> FYI, the standard def show took 32 mins from start of download to available in iTunes. Of course, your mileage may vary (YMMV), as this was on my quad-core MacBook Pro.
>
>
>

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3a.

Re: Steve's last project??

Posted by: "mkaplan22" view@att.net   mkaplan22

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:21 am (PST)



From at least the Pixar days, Jobs was interested in stereoscopic 3D imaging and display. I'd imagine there will be a family of products (including iPhone, iPad and Apple TV) using patented Apple no-glasses stereoscopic 3D display technology. The next generation iPhone and iPad will likely include a stereoscopic 3D camera. Whether this technology will catch on is anybody's guess, but I believe it is inevitable they will go there.

Michael
http://viewproductions.com

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <cookrd1@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering what was the last project that Steve worked
> on. Whatever it is, I would like to have one. Anyone hear anything?

4a.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:31 am (PST)



Howdy.

Harry, Journaling doesn't have anything to do with defragmentation or
fragmentation.

Check this Apple KB article on Journaling.

- - - - -
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2355>

Mac OS X: About file system journaling

• Last Modified: July 22, 2008
• Article: HT2355
• Old Article: 107249

Summary

"Journaling" is a feature that helps protect the file system against
power outages or hardware component failures, reducing the need for
repairs. Journaling was first introduced in Mac OS X Server 10.2.2,
then to the non-server OS in Mac OS X 10.3 Panther. This document
explains some of the benefits of using this feature and how it works.
- - - - -

I've seen the term "snapshot cache" used to describe journaling. A set
of cache files are kept updated on your boot drive that in case of an
unexpected shut down or power failure will often make it possible to
just reboot without any problems and to reboot faster than otherwise
after unusual shutdowns.

There are opinions that folks who deal with large files like videos,
video editing, should turn Journaling off on non boot drives to provide
a small increase in drive responsiveness.

Journaling can be turned on and off in Disk Utility for individual
drives.

Denver Dan

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:51:11 -0500, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> Just tried the demo of iDefrag 2, and it will basically analyze your
> disk(s) and let you know how much fragmentation there is, but will
> not defray it.
>
> I was pretty pleased to find that I have little or no fragmentation
> problems with my main drive.
>
> Fragmentation has not really been an issue with OS X for as long as
> I've used it, especially with the latest journaled filesystem.
>
> I still don't see much of a need for such a program with OS X and
> it's current filesystem.
>
> Harry

4b.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:33 am (PST)



Right, understood. I was just referring to the current filesystem. I had a brain burp and coudnlt' remember Extended or GUID in reference to disks.

I knew what I knew, and that journaling doesn't have anything to do with it.

Thanks Dan.

Harry

On Nov 16, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Harry, Journaling doesn't have anything to do with defragmentation or
> fragmentation.
>
> Check this Apple KB article on Journaling.
>
> - - - - -
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2355>
>
> Mac OS X: About file system journaling
>
> • Last Modified: July 22, 2008
> • Article: HT2355
> • Old Article: 107249

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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4c.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:37 am (PST)



Howdy.

Harry, since the infamous "brain burp" is one of my little sufferances
that seem to crop up more and more often for me, we should collaborate
on a more elegant term for it! :-)

Denver Dan

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:33:53 -0500, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> I had a brain burp and coudnlt' remember Extended or GUID in
> reference to disks.

4d.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:39 am (PST)



:) !

I remember working on a machine running OS/400 and dealing with the journaling it utilized. It was sooo much fun, that term sticks in my mind.

Harry

On Nov 16, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Harry, since the infamous "brain burp" is one of my little sufferances
> that seem to crop up more and more often for me, we should collaborate
> on a more elegant term for it! :-)
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:33:53 -0500, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>> I had a brain burp and coudnlt' remember Extended or GUID in
>> reference to disks.
>

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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4e.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:42 am (PST)



"Senior Moment"?

(I get those too.)

Otto

On 16 November 2011 18:37, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Harry, since the infamous "brain burp" is one of my little sufferances
> that seem to crop up more and more often for me, we should collaborate
> on a more elegant term for it! :-)
>

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4f.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:22 am (PST)



On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
> In recent years, Apple has stated that defragmentation is not
> required. I think this is not exactly the case but that the average
> user would not see a huge benefit in frequent defragmentation.

I believe both you and Apple are backed up by a lot of data on this subject. Active defrag is unnecessary. To be brutal, new defrag software would never be written today. These are legacy apps looking for something to do.

Apple explains it pretty well actually.

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1375

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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4g.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Gail Hensler" ghensler1@msn.com   gvhensler

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:40 pm (PST)



What about "brain eructation"? Not very elegant sounding though, I guess.

4h.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:45 pm (PST)




On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> I believe both you and Apple are backed up by a lot of data on this subject. Active defrag is unnecessary. To be brutal, new defrag software would never be written today. These are legacy apps looking for something to do.

Is there a likely explanation for the fact that, with a few occupied blocks in the middle of my 100 GBytes of "free" space on my new MacBook Pro's Lion boot partition, Lion's Finder was unable to copy my approximately 60 GB Fusion virtual machine file from my "Documents" folder of my previous MacBook Pro to the same location on the new MacBook Pro (putting up a "not enough free space" dialog as the explanation for why it couldn't), but that after I ran iDefrag on the same volume (which dramatically increased contiguous free space to about the same 100 GBytes), the Finder had no trouble executing that copy?

My assumption is that the VM file requires contiguous free space. I asked on the VMware Community forums. No one offered any other explanations.

--
Jim Robertson

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4i.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:51 pm (PST)




On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:02 AM, Steve B. wrote:

> Umm, isn't defragging built into OS X?

File defragmentation is. Disk defragmentation is not.

There is a whole bunch of information about this here:

http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
Item #6 and note #1

When you first install a new version of the Mac OS on your hard
drive, there is a surprising amount of fragmentation as a result.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

4j.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:02 pm (PST)




On Nov 16, 2011, at 6:16 AM, James Robertson wrote:

> Can it be the case that a huge file will only write to the drive if
> it can occupy contiguous space on the drive?

I saw your post about this when you originally posted it. I didn't
answer because I don't have any specific information to point to to
give you a definitive answer.

On the other hand, you do. Clearly your Mac wouldn't do it until you
defragmented your hard drive, would it?

I can tell you that the Mac OS doesn't like to write system or
working files to the hard drive unless it has contiguous space to do
so. That's why you often hear of folks with many gigabytes of total
free space left on their drive being told by the OS that they are out
of hard drive space or experiencing wonky behavior. Their drives are
too fragmented (disk fragmentation, not file fragmentation) for there
to be enough contiguous space left to work with.

Once again, check out all of the citations on my Web site:
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
Item #6 and Note#1

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

4k.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:26 pm (PST)




On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> I saw your post about this when you originally posted it. I didn't
> answer because I don't have any specific information to point to to
> give you a definitive answer.

Thanks. I don't really remember who it was, but whomever it was, he was so sure this couldn't be true that I questioned my own experience.

--
Jim Robertson

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4l.

Re: iDefrag 2 News

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:53 pm (PST)




On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:26 PM, James Robertson wrote:

> Thanks. I don't really remember who it was, but whomever it was, he
> was so sure this couldn't be true that I questioned my own experience.

Did you see the quote from a MicroMat technician on my Web site?

"The claim that installations of Mac OS X on HFS+ volumes do not
fragment is a myth believed by people who do not have disk optimizers
that allow them to see how much fragmentation their disks have. It is
an example of ignorance that is not able to be removed by any amount
of evidence. I think theologians call that "invincible ignorance". It
is now a widespread form of the pollution of information space."
There are lots of folks who will adamantly claim things about OS X
and fragmentation that really don't know what they are talking about.

It's the same for repairing permissions, by the way.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

5a.

Any Black Friday sale rumors for iPads?

Posted by: "neelie" neeliec2000@yahoo.com   neeliec2000

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:34 am (PST)



I"m ready to buy an iPad2 and was wondering if anyone has heard of any Black Friday ONLINE sales (I'm in a rural area)?

I did read that possibly Best Buy will be having iPads on sale, but only 5 per store. We do have a Best Buy in our small town, but with stores opening at midnight, I will not be participating in that kind of sale!

Any other rumors out there?

I was hoping maybe even the Apple Store would offer a sale, but I guess iPads are so popular they might not be ripe for a sale of any kind.

5b.

Re: Any Black Friday sale rumors for iPads?

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:11 am (PST)



Apple has the strongest price controls I've ever seen. The best you're likely to get will be associated freebies and give-aways.

Unless.... Some pundits think Apple may feel the need to "push back" against the Kindle Fire, and that would have to be with a price drop. Apple doesn't put things "on sale." They just drop the price.

I'm not as bullish on this idea as some pundits. Apple has the courage of it's convictions and rarely acts rashly. I think they will wait to see how the Kindle Fire does over the holidays. If the Kindle sells as well as some bullish predictions, AND people like it (a BIG if) then expect to see iPad pricing drop in the new year. It may drop anyway.

BUT... Jobs is no longer in charge, so predicting Apple's behavior is probably a fool's game at the moment.

Cheers,
tod

On Nov 16, 2011, at 1:34 PM, neelie wrote:

> I"m ready to buy an iPad2 and was wondering if anyone has heard of any Black Friday ONLINE sales (I'm in a rural area)?
>
> I did read that possibly Best Buy will be having iPads on sale, but only 5 per store. We do have a Best Buy in our small town, but with stores opening at midnight, I will not be participating in that kind of sale!
>
> Any other rumors out there?
>
> I was hoping maybe even the Apple Store would offer a sale, but I guess iPads are so popular they might not be ripe for a sale of any kind.
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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6.1.

Re: Directories

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:01 am (PST)



On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:30 AM, James Robertson wrote:
> (Todd, I hope that I'm paraphrasing you correctly).

I'm not sure it captures every nuances, but it is faithful to my intent. ;)

tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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7a.

Re: Adobe Ends Mobile Flash

Posted by: "Dave Sherlock" dsherlock.geo@yahoo.com   dsherlock.geo

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:27 pm (PST)



Or ipad@yahoogroups

Regards, Dave
Sent from my  iPad

On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Barb Adamski wrote:
> > There's an iPad list?
> >
>
> You might want to look at: apple-ipad@googlegroups.com
>
> keith whaley
>
>

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8a.

Re: I.yimg.com

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:39 pm (PST)



Suddenly today I am getting this "I.yimg.com" small window when using Yahoo Mail. The small window appears w this url as "undefined".

Yahoo is becoming very bugy. I began receiving mysterious blank files downloaded when I use Yahoo a few weeks ago. I simply trash them. I never try to open them. I have not found an explaination of why this is happening.

Recently I removed all of my important data from Yahoo Mail. I suspect that Yahoo is not spending any resources to keep the site clean or secure.

jr

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "iris" <gardenstr25@...> wrote:
>
> Once again I thank you for your timely reply. I will research on Yahoo. Don't know if anyone has told you but you folks are a wonderful support system especially to non techs like myself dating from the old times!!
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Denver Dan <denver.dan@> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy.
> >
> > l.yimg.com is probably some kind of Yahoo server that Yahoo may use for
> > images. Hence the Y Img name.
> >
> > Don't know if I can help with the frequency since it may be a Yahoo
> > issue.
> >
> > However, try a Yahoo search to see what you can fine. I've seen some
> > references to it possibly being connected to a Yahoo tool bar.
> >
> > Note that currently Facebook is experiencing some kind of massive spam
> > attack. I've noted that Facebook has been very slow to update some
> > things the past couple of days and sometimes when one internet entity
> > experiences this kind of think it could have an overflow effect on
> > other services such as email that has to work harder to keep up with
> > traffic.
> >
> > Denver Dan
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:38:15 +0000, iris wrote:
> > > Good morning. Excuse me if this is a repeat but why is this suddenly
> > > popping up on my Yahoo mail. I was using Safari at the time and had
> > > to quit the site. Could not continue with my mail.
> > > Happened twice in a matter of minutes. A small blue box with the
> > > above address.
> > > Thank you in advance.
> > > Iris
> >
>

9a.

Re: Sidebar issues

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:10 pm (PST)



Anyone know how to remove something from the Sidebar. I have an old application that migrated there when I did the initial migration from the old computer. I did not migrate the application though so the link to Adobe Standard doesn't go anywhere.

I can't select it to right click though if I double click it, it will open up a blank folder. I know I can delete other stuff from the sidebar with a right click but not this icon for Adobe Standard.

Jay

On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > I'm using 10.7.2 also. As you said it would not let me put a file (pointer) into the sidebar, but would a folder (directory). I was able to put an alias to a file into the sidebar. So here is how I did it:
> >
> > Right click on the file, in the popup menu choose 'Make Alias', then I selected the alias I just created and moved it to the sidebar, it stayed (without the 'alias' in the name). I then moved the original alias to the trash. Emptied the trash. The original file is still in it place.

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9b.

Re: Sidebar issues

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:59 pm (PST)



Can't you simply drag it off?

Otto

On 16 November 2011 22:10, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net> wrote:

> Anyone know how to remove something from the Sidebar. I have an old
> application that migrated there when I did the initial migration from the
> old computer. I did not migrate the application though so the link to
> Adobe Standard doesn't go anywhere.
>
> I can't select it to right click though if I double click it, it will open
> up a blank folder. I know I can delete other stuff from the sidebar with a
> right click but not this icon for Adobe Standard.
>
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

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10.

Un-forward

Posted by: "Guy Kudlemyer" gwkuddles@comcast.net   truckersroost

Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:38 pm (PST)



Hello:

Using Entourage for Mac 2008, is there a way to render an email void for
forwarding to another party?

I can¹t seem to find anything in the Help files that would ³Help.²

If anyone has insights, I¹d be most appreciative of a response!

Guy
Thurston, Oregon

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