11/15/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8561

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1.
Lion - Invisible User Library in Time Machine From: Denver Dan
2a.
I Tunes 10.5 From: Barbara B
2b.
Re: I Tunes 10.5 From: Bill Boulware
3.1.
Re: Time Machine and Finder tricks [was "3"] From: Jim Saklad
4.1.
Re: Directories From: Jim Saklad
5a.
25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Denver Dan
5b.
Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Keith Whaley
5c.
Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Denver dan
5d.
Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Keith Whaley
5e.
Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Michael P. Stupinski
5f.
Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Chris Jones
5g.
Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Jim Saklad
5h.
Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year From: Barry Austern
6a.
Weird Cmd-Tab behavior From: DaveC
6b.
Re: Weird Cmd-Tab behavior From: Bob Cook
6c.
Re: Weird Cmd-Tab behavior From: Jim Saklad
7a.
Re: Tivo Transfer on Lion From: nhoward5040
8a.
Re: Win 7 Boot Issue In Lion From: Bob Cook
8b.
Re: Win 7 Boot Issue In Lion From: Harry Flaxman
8c.
Re: Win 7 Boot Issue In Lion From: Harry Flaxman
9a.
Re: Sidebar issues From: Jim Saklad
9b.
Re: Sidebar issues From: Joan B Sax Ph.D.
9c.
Re: Sidebar issues From: Jim Saklad
10a.
iPhone bluetooth connection to car radio From: Joan B Sax Ph.D.
10b.
Re: iPhone bluetooth connection to car radio From: Barry Austern

Messages

1.

Lion - Invisible User Library in Time Machine

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:37 am (PST)



Howdy.

I just posted this as a response to someone asking about general Time
Machine things and thought it could be useful for all Lion users to
know about.

The normal Users/.../Library folder in Mac OS X has been made invisible
in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion.

There are several ways to make it visible again for your convenience.
One way is to use the Finder's Go menu and press Option then click on
Go menu and the Library folder appears in the Go menu listing and can
be selected. It will then be visible and useable until you click
somewhere else in Finder.

You can drag this Library folder icon, while it's visible, to the
Sidebar where it will remain for you to use without resorting to the
Option/Go menu trick. There are also Terminal commands to make
Users/Library visible.

THIS POSTING talks about this Lion invisible Library folder ALSO being
invisible in a Lion Time Machine backup.

I've just now learned that in Lion's Time Machine backups the
User/Library folder is now invisible just as it is invisible on the
Lion boot drive that was backed up!

So how do you restore something using Time Machine Restore when you
can't see it to find it in the Time Machine backup ????? Well, it can
be done but takes some work.

Having just tried this using Terminal commands, not all of which a
actually worked as advertised, I downloaded and used the free
TinkerTool utility which has an excellent one button solution to make
all files visible (and when needed to make those files invisible
again).

This command may require a restart of the Mac to finalize. OR, you can
launch Terminal (in Utilities folder) and type the following command at
the prompt:

killall Finder [Return]

So that means to type the word "killall" (no quotes), then a space,
then type "Finder" (with a capital letter "F" and no quotes) then press
the Return key. You can even copy the command from this message
(without the spaces and the [Return} part and then paste into the
Terminal window at the prompt. Then press Return.

The various User/Library folders on connected drives will all become
visible.

This will relaunch Finder and the invisible files will be visible or
files that you want to return to being invisible (using the TinkerTool
feature) will go back to being invisible.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND that folks keep normally invisible files visible.
Too much chance to delete something that is not understood but is
required.

Denver Dan

2a.

I Tunes 10.5

Posted by: "Barbara B" bpurdy13@gmail.com   sakura1313ca

Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:23 am (PST)



Hi all,
I am running I tunes 10 and would like to know if I update to 10.5 will I have to use i cloud? or can I still sync to my computer. I am not interested in using i cloud. Am still running SL on a macbook 10.6.8 have to interest right now to going to lion.
I also have an i pad 2 and an i touch 4th gen.
Hope this is not too obvious of a ques.
Thanking you in advance.
Barbara from Montreal

2b.

Re: I Tunes 10.5

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:27 am (PST)



No, iTunes has nothing to do with iCloud. iTunes Match is an option in
10.5.1 but you don't have to turn it on.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 14:23, Barbara B <bpurdy13@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi all,
> I am running I tunes 10 and would like to know if I update to 10.5 will I
> have to use i cloud? or can I still sync to my computer. I am not
> interested in using i cloud. Am still running SL on a macbook 10.6.8 have
> to interest right now to going to lion.
> I also have an i pad 2 and an i touch 4th gen.
> Hope this is not too obvious of a ques.
> Thanking you in advance.
> Barbara from Montreal
>
>
>

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3.1.

Re: Time Machine and Finder tricks [was "3"]

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:34 am (PST)



> 1. Invisible Users/.../Library folder in Lion.
>
> I've just now learned that in Lion's Time Machine backups the User/Library folder is now invisible just as it is invisible on the Lion boot drive that was backed up!
>
> So how do you restore something using Time Machine Restore when you can't see it to find it in the Time Machine backup ????? Well, it can be done but takes some work.

Or not....

I put ~/Library in the sidebar of my Finder windows when I installed Lion. If I open a Finder window, click on Library in the sidebar to display its contents, then activate Time Machine, the TM display shows me ~/Library in all of the historical windows.

> This command may require a restart of the Mac to finalize. OR, you can launch Terminal (in Utilities folder) and type the following command at the prompt:
>
> killall Finder (Return)
>
> So that means to type the word "killall" (no quotes), then a space, then type Finder (with a capital letter "F") then press the Return key.

I have also activated the "Quit" functionality in Finder, so all I have to do is click in the Finder, press <Command><q>, then click on the Finder icon in the dock to restart it.

Absent that functionality, the next easiest way to to that would be to press <Command><Option><Escape>, click on Finder, then on "Relaunch".

No need to make things more complicated than they have to be.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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4.1.

Re: Directories

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:37 am (PST)



> Yup, developmental testing was one thing. The public release is quite another. I am experiencing a degrading of the entire system within days of bringing it online. This did not happen during the beta phase.
>
> I've kept up with maintenance, not overdoing it. I do still have a partition where it is freshly installed, and I use it occasionally.
> Harry

I'm pretty sure you have some unidentified system peculiarity that's biting at your ankles; this does NOT seem to be a problem inherent to Lion.

>>> It's funny you should mention this. Not since then have I done so many reinstalls as with Lion. I have done 3 to date. I have made a second bootable partition with 10.6 on it, only to have it operate so smoothly, that I decided to go ahead an upgrade it to 10.7. Then things went south. I wound up having to reinstall 10.6 and then 10.7 again. I am so tired of the process that I have decided to stay at 10.6.8 at this point.
>>
>> I have lost track of the number of times I've installed Lion, since I was testing it during the seed program.
>>
>> The only time I had any trouble with it was the very first.
>>
>>> To me, it was a mistake to shell out the 30 bucks and upgrade.
>>
>> To me it's been a win from day 2.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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5a.

25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:02 pm (PST)



Howdy.

A link to AOL/Daily Finance and an article on:

Internet Insecurity: The 25 Worst Passwords of 2011

By Sheryl Nance-Nash

<http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/11/15/internet-insecurity-the-25-worst-passwords-of-2011/?a_dgi=aolshare_facebook>

Here's the list of 25 copied and pasted from the online article.

1. password

2. 123456

3. 12345678

4. qwerty

5. abc123

6. monkey

7. 1234567

8. letmein

9. trustno1

10. dragon

11. baseball

12. 111111

13. iloveyou

14. master

15. sunshine

16. ashley

17. bailey

18. passwOrd

19. shadow

20. 123123

21. 654321

22. superman

23. qazwsx

24. michael

25. football

- - - - -

Denver Dan (I added the hyphens so folks wouldn't think Denver Dan a
password, :-) )

5b.

Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:43 pm (PST)



Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> A link to AOL/Daily Finance and an article on:
>
> Internet Insecurity: The 25 Worst Passwords of 2011
>
> By Sheryl Nance-Nash
>
> <http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/11/15/internet-insecurity-the-25-worst-passwords-of-2011/?a_dgi=aolshare_facebook>
>
>
> Here's the list of 25 copied and pasted from the online article.
>
* * *

> 24. michael
>
> 25. football
>
> - - - - -
>
> Denver Dan (I added the hyphens so folks wouldn't think Denver Dan a
> password, :-)

Those dashes looked a bit odd to my naked eye, so I enlarged them by
using Control-scroll ball upward on my Mac mouse.

I noticed the hyphens have sort of a shadow gray hyphen a pixel above
the hyphen's black pixels. No idea of the purpose, but of course, it is
part of ALL text glyphs. They all have the offset shadow.
Yes, I've noticed it for some time, but just decided to ask about it.

Thanks,

keith whaley

5c.

Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:01 pm (PST)



Probably part of anti-aliasing.

!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i
iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
— my magical animal is a butterfly

On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Keith Whaley <keith_w@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Denver Dan wrote:
>> Howdy.
>>
>> A link to AOL/Daily Finance and an article on:
>>
>> Internet Insecurity: The 25 Worst Passwords of 2011
>>
>> By Sheryl Nance-Nash
>>
>> <http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/11/15/internet-insecurity-the-25-worst-passwords-of-2011/?a_dgi=aolshare_facebook>
>>
>>
>> Here's the list of 25 copied and pasted from the online article.
>>
> * * *
>
>> 24. michael
>>
>> 25. football
>>
>> - - - - -
>>
>> Denver Dan (I added the hyphens so folks wouldn't think Denver Dan a
>> password, :-)
>
> Those dashes looked a bit odd to my naked eye, so I enlarged them by
> using Control-scroll ball upward on my Mac mouse.
>
> I noticed the hyphens have sort of a shadow gray hyphen a pixel above
> the hyphen's black pixels. No idea of the purpose, but of course, it is
> part of ALL text glyphs. They all have the offset shadow.
> Yes, I've noticed it for some time, but just decided to ask about it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> keith whaley
>
>
>
>
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5d.

Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:39 pm (PST)



Denver dan wrote:
> Probably part of anti-aliasing.

You're totally right.

Being a bit shaky on the term, I looked it up.

http://www.graphicsacademy.com/what_antialiastext.php

Excellent example of text with and without anti-aliasing!

Many thanks, Dan.

keith

5e.

Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Michael P. Stupinski" mpstupinski@snet.net   mstupinski

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:42 pm (PST)



I didn't think 'michael' would be such a popular password. I hope
everyone doesn't conclude that people named Michael are, in general,
that foolish! I remember a few years ago someone gushed proudly on a
list about using the perfect password: the complicated last name of a
former teacher. Unfortunately, in doing that the person also shared
the name of the teacher with the list.

..............Mike

On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> A link to AOL/Daily Finance and an article on:
>
> Internet Insecurity: The 25 Worst Passwords of 2011
>
> By Sheryl Nance-Nash
>
> <http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/11/15/internet-insecurity-the-25-worst-passwords-of-2011/?a_dgi=aolshare_facebook
> >
>
> Here's the list of 25 copied and pasted from the online article.
>
> 1. password
>
> 2. 123456
>
> 3. 12345678
>
> 4. qwerty
>
> 5. abc123
>
> 6. monkey
>
> 7. 1234567
>
> 8. letmein
>
> 9. trustno1
>
> 10. dragon
>
> 11. baseball
>
> 12. 111111
>
> 13. iloveyou
>
> 14. master
>
> 15. sunshine
>
> 16. ashley
>
> 17. bailey
>
> 18. passwOrd
>
> 19. shadow
>
> 20. 123123
>
> 21. 654321
>
> 22. superman
>
> 23. qazwsx
>
> 24. michael
>
> 25. football
>
> - - - - -
>
> Denver Dan (I added the hyphens so folks wouldn't think Denver Dan a
> password, :-) )
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
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>
>

5f.

Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Chris Jones" jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk   bobstermcbob

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:56 pm (PST)



Hi,

> I didn't think 'michael' would be such a popular password. I hope
> everyone doesn't conclude that people named Michael are, in general,
> that foolish! I remember a few years ago someone gushed proudly on a
> list about using the perfect password: the complicated last name of a
> former teacher. Unfortunately, in doing that the person also shared
> the name of the teacher with the list.

Anyone who thinks a strong password can be something that is a real word/name doesn't understand what the concept of a strong password is� If it is something you can find in a dictionary/phonebook, or a trival combination thereof, then it is something the most basic of password hackers will try. Computers don't get bored. They don't mind cycling through such lists trying all combinations, just incase�

The only true strong passwords are random combinations of letters, with a few characters not normally found in words (_,-,| and so on) thrown in for good measure.

Chris

>
> ..............Mike
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> A link to AOL/Daily Finance and an article on:
>>
>> Internet Insecurity: The 25 Worst Passwords of 2011
>>
>> By Sheryl Nance-Nash
>>
>> <http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/11/15/internet-insecurity-the-25-worst-passwords-of-2011/?a_dgi=aolshare_facebook
>>>
>>
>> Here's the list of 25 copied and pasted from the online article.
>>
>> 1. password
>>
>> 2. 123456
>>
>> 3. 12345678
>>
>> 4. qwerty
>>
>> 5. abc123
>>
>> 6. monkey
>>
>> 7. 1234567
>>
>> 8. letmein
>>
>> 9. trustno1
>>
>> 10. dragon
>>
>> 11. baseball
>>
>> 12. 111111
>>
>> 13. iloveyou
>>
>> 14. master
>>
>> 15. sunshine
>>
>> 16. ashley
>>
>> 17. bailey
>>
>> 18. passwOrd
>>
>> 19. shadow
>>
>> 20. 123123
>>
>> 21. 654321
>>
>> 22. superman
>>
>> 23. qazwsx
>>
>> 24. michael
>>
>> 25. football
>>
>> - - - - -
>>
>> Denver Dan (I added the hyphens so folks wouldn't think Denver Dan a
>> password, :-) )
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Group FAQ:
>> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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5g.

Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:38 pm (PST)



> Internet Insecurity: The 25 Worst Passwords of 2011

I'm surprised no one uses [power

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5h.

Re: 25 Worst Password Choices of the Year

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:56 pm (PST)



At 5:38 PM -0500 11/15/11, Jim Saklad wrote:

>
>
> > Internet Insecurity: The 25 Worst Passwords of 2011
>
>I'm surprised no one uses [power

Hey, guys, I think we now know Jim's password :-)

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

6a.

Weird Cmd-Tab behavior

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:20 pm (PST)



Used to be, until recently, holding down Cmd-Tab keys would result in
the application icons popping up on the screen and the "highlighted"
one would progress across infinitely. In other words, the
highlighting of the apps would continue to the rightmost icon and
then start with the leftmost one and repeat until I lifted the keys.

Now when I press the Cmd-Tab keys, the highlighting of the app icons
will progress to the rightmost one and... stop. It will not continue
with the leftmost one and continue infinitely.

Same if I press Cmd-` (just above the Tab key): the highlighting of
the icons now goes to left (as expected) and stops with the leftmost
icon.

Is anyone else seeing this change in behavior?

I just recently re-installed Lion (for other reasons).

Thanks,
Dave
--
2011 Mac mini 2.7 GHz i7 / 4 GB / 750 GB
OS X 10.7.2

6b.

Re: Weird Cmd-Tab behavior

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:55 pm (PST)



On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:20 PM, DaveC <davec2468@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Used to be, until recently, holding down Cmd-Tab keys would result in
> the application icons popping up on the screen and the "highlighted"
> one would progress across infinitely. In other words, the
> highlighting of the apps would continue to the rightmost icon and
> then start with the leftmost one and repeat until I lifted the keys.
>
> Now when I press the Cmd-Tab keys, the highlighting of the app icons
> will progress to the rightmost one and... stop. It will not continue
> with the leftmost one and continue infinitely.
>
> Same if I press Cmd-` (just above the Tab key): the highlighting of
> the icons now goes to left (as expected) and stops with the leftmost
> icon.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this change in behavior?
>
> I just recently re-installed Lion (for other reasons).
>
> No, when I press Cmd+Tab, when it gets to the last app, it starts over at
the beginning. I have 10.7.2. I checked this on my MBA and it works ok
also.

Bob

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6c.

Re: Weird Cmd-Tab behavior

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:34 pm (PST)



> Used to be, until recently, holding down Cmd-Tab keys would result in the application icons popping up on the screen and the "highlighted" one would progress across infinitely. In other words, the highlighting of the apps would continue to the rightmost icon and then start with the leftmost one and repeat until I lifted the keys.
>
> Now when I press the Cmd-Tab keys, the highlighting of the app icons will progress to the rightmost one and... stop. It will not continue with the leftmost one and continue infinitely.

Still cycles for me, in Lion.

> Same if I press Cmd-` (just above the Tab key): the highlighting of the icons now goes to left (as expected) and stops with the leftmost icon.

Huh. Didn't know about that one. I always used <Command><Shift><Tab>.
But either way, it still cycles for me, in Lion.

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7a.

Re: Tivo Transfer on Lion

Posted by: "nhoward5040" lists5040@comcast.net   nhoward5040

Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:41 pm (PST)



Hi Jay,

I am still on Snow Leopard (and plan to stay there, at least for a while). I don't recall whether I used Tivo Transfer back when I had a PPC - I probably did. But I don't recall any problems when I moved to an Intel Mac. I don't remember if I transferred any programs from computer to computer, or just used newly transferred material. I do member having lots of problems with Toast 8, particularly trying to burn some of the things that I had downloaded - Toast would keep on quitting. This was a known problem.

Sorry that I can't help you more.

Nancy

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nancy,
>
> Thanks for replying. Are you using Lion?
>
> I have entered my Media Access Key but it is not recognizing any of the shows. Also the already transferred programs were downloaded to the old Mac using Tivo Transfer. When I used Setup Assistant to start up the new Mac, all data on the old Mac was transferred to the old Mac.
>
> Googling on the internet seems to indicate that some of the old decode information used by the various converters were based on the PPC architecture and won't work unless it is recompiled for Intel.
>
> Jay
>
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:31 AM, nhoward5040 wrote:
>
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > It's been a while since I set up my computer with Tivo Transfer, but I think that you have to go into it's preferences and enter the Media Access number from your Tivo Machine. I think that you can get this either from your older Mac, or probably on the screen of your TV in the Tivo settings part.
> >
> > Also, I don't follow the part in your post where you say it won't play the already transferred programs. Where are these programs? - if they are on your new computer, then it must have recognized it to transfer them. If they aren't, then they aren't there to play - or did you just copy them from the old to the new computer?
> >
> > Nancy
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

8a.

Re: Win 7 Boot Issue In Lion

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:11 pm (PST)



Harry,

I started Bootcamp Assistant and it told me that I can't use Bootcamp
because the HD in my MBP has three partitions (Lion, SL and Data). I get a
warning message telling me that Bootcamp will only install on a HD with a
single partition. Funny, I didn't remember that from Leopard, and I
thought that my HD in Leopard already had a second (Data) partition when I
installed Bootcamp.

Or am I doing something wrong (again)?

If I can round up an external USB drive with only one partition (I think
all of mine have a NTFS or FAT32 and a Mac Journaled partition), I will
give it a try. Or, maybe Bootcamp won't work on an external drive?

-Bob

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Nope, definitely Win 7. I have the Ultimate disc.
>
> Like I say, I don't believe there was any firmware update with my iMac
> prior to the Lion upgrade.
>
> The machine is still capable of booting XP. Firmware is in control of
> that, not Lion. Lion's version of the Bootcamp software does not support XP
> or lower.
>
> We have a few people running Lion that still have XP partitions. I'm
> assuming they can boot from the XP dads.
>
> Would appreciate you trying later on!
>
> Thanks Bob!!
>
> Harry
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
> > Harry,
> > If you don't get a response, I will try when I get home. Only Win7 works
> > with Lion, so make sure it is not Vista or XP.
> > Bob
> > On Nov 15, 2011 9:15 AM, "Harry Flaxman" <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> **
>
> >>
> >>
> >> I just tried to boot from a Win 7 install dvd that I purchased awhile
> ago.
> >> In Lion, the disc is not recognized as a boot disc. I have two optical
> >> drives, including the internal, and neither of them recognize it.
> >>
> >> I thought, perhaps the drives are out of alignment, or need replacing,
> so
> >> I created and then burned back, a disc image.
> >>
> >> Has anyone had an issue with this?
> >>
> >> I don't believe that firmware was changed anywhere during the Lion
> >> upgrade, so I can't imagine what's causing this.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Harry
> >>
> >> Harry Flaxman
> >> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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8b.

Re: Win 7 Boot Issue In Lion

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:51 pm (PST)



If you partition manually, you can use 3 partitions on the hard drive. You must first ensure that the target partition for Windows is named BOOTCAMP and it's formatted FAT32.

My issue was just starting the machine with a Windows disc. I just can't the machine to recognize the DVD as that of a boot source.

Harry

On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

> Harry,
>
> I started Bootcamp Assistant and it told me that I can't use Bootcamp
> because the HD in my MBP has three partitions (Lion, SL and Data). I get a
> warning message telling me that Bootcamp will only install on a HD with a
> single partition. Funny, I didn't remember that from Leopard, and I
> thought that my HD in Leopard already had a second (Data) partition when I
> installed Bootcamp.
>
> Or am I doing something wrong (again)?
>
> If I can round up an external USB drive with only one partition (I think
> all of mine have a NTFS or FAT32 and a Mac Journaled partition), I will
> give it a try. Or, maybe Bootcamp won't work on an external drive?
>
> -Bob

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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8c.

Re: Win 7 Boot Issue In Lion

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:23 pm (PST)



You know, come to think of it, you don't even need Bootcamp Assistant to set up Windows. You can partition manually, boot from the Win dvd manually. When the Win installer 'sees' the hard drives, you wind up having to reformat the FAT drive anyway, as Win 7 cannot use that format.

I just did this a couple of weeks ago, and it's the way I've always done it. Bootcamp assistant basically repartitions the drive for you and can download the new support software. When it comes to the install, it just reboots to the Win dvd.

Harry

On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> If you partition manually, you can use 3 partitions on the hard drive. You must first ensure that the target partition for Windows is named BOOTCAMP and it's formatted FAT32.
>
> My issue was just starting the machine with a Windows disc. I just can't the machine to recognize the DVD as that of a boot source.
>
> Harry
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
>> Harry,
>>
>> I started Bootcamp Assistant and it told me that I can't use Bootcamp
>> because the HD in my MBP has three partitions (Lion, SL and Data). I get a
>> warning message telling me that Bootcamp will only install on a HD with a
>> single partition. Funny, I didn't remember that from Leopard, and I
>> thought that my HD in Leopard already had a second (Data) partition when I
>> installed Bootcamp.
>>
>> Or am I doing something wrong (again)?
>>
>> If I can round up an external USB drive with only one partition (I think
>> all of mine have a NTFS or FAT32 and a Mac Journaled partition), I will
>> give it a try. Or, maybe Bootcamp won't work on an external drive?
>>
>> -Bob
>

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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9a.

Re: Sidebar issues

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:24 pm (PST)



> I'm using 10.7.2 also. As you said it would not let me put a file (pointer) into the sidebar, but would a folder (directory). I was able to put an alias to a file into the sidebar. So here is how I did it:
>
> Right click on the file, in the popup menu choose 'Make Alias', then I selected the alias I just created and moved it to the sidebar, it stayed (without the 'alias' in the name). I then moved the original alias to the trash. Emptied the trash. The original file is still in it place.
>
> I then double clicked the name in the sidebar and the file opened with the application.

Thank you!
That is a new one for me!

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9b.

Re: Sidebar issues

Posted by: "Joan B Sax Ph.D." jsax@me.com   joan05061

Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:40 pm (PST)



Thanks, Jim, that works. Does seem like a lot of trouble to go through when in Snow Leopard all one had to do was drag the file to the sidebar. Whatever made the folks at Apple complicate things more?

Joan

9c.

Re: Sidebar issues

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:36 pm (PST)



> Thanks, Jim, that works. Does seem like a lot of trouble to go through when in Snow Leopard all one had to do was drag the file to the sidebar. Whatever made the folks at Apple complicate things more?
> Joan

Well, actually, it seems there's an easier method:
Where in Snow Leopard you would just drag to the sidebar, in Lion you <Command><drag> to the sidebar....

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10a.

iPhone bluetooth connection to car radio

Posted by: "Joan B Sax Ph.D." jsax@me.com   joan05061

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:00 pm (PST)



I use the iPod part of my iPhone for listening to audiobooks. I have tried several of the devices that connect your iPhone to the car stereo (my car radio does not have an auxiliary place to plug into) through FM stations and none of them work without my having to change to different frequencies depending on where I'm driving. Furthermore the sound is inconsistent and sometimes awful. I am told that there are after market bluetooth car radios out there that allow you to couple your iPhone or iPod with the radio to use its speaker without the FM radio. Anyone had any experience with this who can recommend a good one? I know there are regular standalone radios that one can do this with, but how about car radios?

TIA

Joan

10b.

Re: iPhone bluetooth connection to car radio

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:56 pm (PST)



At 5:00 PM -0500 11/15/11, Joan B Sax Ph.D. wrote:

>
>
>I use the iPod part of my iPhone for listening to audiobooks. I have
>tried several of the devices that connect your iPhone to the car
>stereo (my car radio does not have an auxiliary place to plug into)
>through FM stations and none of them work without my having to
>change to different frequencies depending on where I'm driving.

I've tried many FM transmitters, and they all stink. When I tried
them all I had two cars. The older one had a cassette deck, and those
adapters are pretty good, and less than five dollars. If you have an
older care with a cassette deck then you can do that. As it was 15
years old I traded it in, and the new car has not only an aux jack
but even a way of hooking up an iPod with a special cable, so the
radio panel controls the iPod. I solved the problem with the other
car, without the tape deck by my wife's wrecking it, so I had to buy
a second new car :-)

>Furthermore the sound is inconsistent and sometimes awful. I am told
>that there are after market bluetooth car radios out there that
>allow you to couple your iPhone or iPod with the radio to use its
>speaker without the FM radio. Anyone had any experience with this
>who can recommend a good one? I know there are regular standalone
>radios that one can do this with, but how about car radios?

As long as you are willing to buy a new radio, why not get one with
an aux jack and forgo the Blue Tooth? Certainly a lot less
complicated and I'm sure that a cable would be better than over the
air, even if the air is BlueTooth and not FM.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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