11/23/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8579

Messages In This Digest (19 Messages)

1a.
Where would I find a Call Recorder saved file? From: Barb Adamski
1b.
Re: Where would I find a Call Recorder saved file? From: Barb Adamski
2a.
Re: Ethernet migration From: Barry Austern
2b.
Re: Ethernet migration From: Denver dan
3a.
Re: Mail suddenly slow From: George Robertson
3b.
Re: Mail suddenly slow From: titnaw titnaw
4a.
Hitachi vs. Toshiba: should I send this hard drive back? From: Andrew Buc
4b.
Re: Hitachi vs. Toshiba: should I send this hard drive back? From: Randy B. Singer
5a.
namebench and hijacking From: HAL9000
5b.
Re: namebench and hijacking From: HAL9000
6a.
Re: Ok, one more time! From: paul smith
7a.
Re: Trojan Horse "DevilRobber" From: paul smith
8a.
Re: modem/router question with Magic Jack From: Louise Stewart
9.
Re: Mail accounts From: titnaw titnaw
10a.
Re: I lost my documents on desktop From: titnaw titnaw
10b.
Re: I lost my documents on desktop From: titnaw titnaw
10c.
Re: I lost my documents on desktop From: titnaw titnaw
10d.
Re: I lost my documents on desktop From: Harry Flaxman
10e.
Re: I lost my documents on desktop From: Harry Flaxman

Messages

1a.

Where would I find a Call Recorder saved file?

Posted by: "Barb Adamski" adamski@telus.net   bkadamski

Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:09 pm (PST)



Hello.

I just recorded an interview on Skype that was supposed to have been recorded using Call Recorder. Everything looked fine when I was making the call, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. It's not in the "Saved Calls" folder where I expected it to be.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Barb

************************************************
Barbara K. Adamski, MA, certified proofreader
writing, editing, proofreading & photography
www.barbadamski.com
www.barbadamski.photoshelter.com

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1b.

Re: Where would I find a Call Recorder saved file?

Posted by: "Barb Adamski" adamski@telus.net   bkadamski

Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:10 pm (PST)



Disregard. It showed up in a different folder on my desktop.

Barb

************************************************
Barbara K. Adamski, MA, certified proofreader
writing, editing, proofreading & photography
www.barbadamski.com
www.barbadamski.photoshelter.com

On 2011-11-22, at 3:08 PM, Barb Adamski wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I just recorded an interview on Skype that was supposed to have been recorded using Call Recorder. Everything looked fine when I was making the call, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. It's not in the "Saved Calls" folder where I expected it to be.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Barb
>
> ************************************************
> Barbara K. Adamski, MA, certified proofreader
> writing, editing, proofreading & photography
> www.barbadamski.com
> www.barbadamski.photoshelter.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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2a.

Re: Ethernet migration

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:13 pm (PST)



At 10:50 PM +0000 11/22/11, Ken wrote:

>
>Migrating from old MacBook to new MB Air, 10.5.8 to Lion. Apple
>support says to use an Ethernet cable or go wireless. Do you folks
>think wireless is reliable for this task, or should I do Ethernet?
>And if I do, should it be a straight-through or crossover cable, and
>thank you.
>Ken Silva

I'd trust the cable more. Since 10 years or more ago Macs understand
what to do with any cable, so I can't see that as a problem. Your
question did bring back memories to me :-)
Actually, you probably do have a wireless router/switch already, so
you could also likely plug cables from both of the machines into that.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

2b.

Re: Ethernet migration

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:27 pm (PST)



WiFi is fine if you have reliable WiFi.

Macs made in last 8 or so years don't need an Ethernet crossover cable. A regular one is fine.

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iFrom Denver Dan's iPhone
— my magical animal is a butterfly

On Nov 22, 2011, at 5:50 PM, "Ken" <avlisk@cox.net> wrote:

> Migrating from old MacBook to new MB Air, 10.5.8 to Lion. Apple support says to use an Ethernet cable or go wireless. Do you folks think wireless is reliable for this task, or should I do Ethernet? And if I do, should it be a straight-through or crossover cable, and thank you.
> Ken Silva
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>

3a.

Re: Mail suddenly slow

Posted by: "George Robertson" gcrobert@shaw.ca   haydn46

Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:25 pm (PST)



Thanks for the various suggestions of how to speed up mail with other applications, like SpeedMail. Before I try that, am I taking any risks by using Mail's Rebuild Desktop option?

George

Re: Mail suddenly slow
Posted by: "Christopher Collins" maclist@analogdigital.com.au cjc1959au
Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:45 pm (PST)

SpeedMail

Performs database compaction of Mail, the Mail application for Mac OS X, making it far more because it tends and responsive.

http://www.1802.it/speedmail.php

cjc

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3b.

Re: Mail suddenly slow

Posted by: "titnaw titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com   titnaw

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:03 am (PST)



Thanks Daly,
It is a POP account so that is probably what happened
Thank you for information on Server Settings. I never used tools before so
your instructions were perfect. I used the checkbox to leave mail on server
till I delete
Titnaw

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2011, at 2:47 AM, titnaw wrote:
>
> > I have thunderbird and seem to miss a lot of messages. I do have this
> email on another computer that uses Outlook Express. Do you think that is
> what is happening
>
> It depends on how the mail is set up. If they are "POP" accounts, then
> when you download mail on one computer, those messages are no longer on the
> server, so won't be available when you download mail on the other computer.
>
> In Thunderbird's Tools menu, you can choose Account Settings. In Account
> Settings, find your account on the left and beneath its name, select
> "Server Settings." In Server Settings, you can use checkboxes to tell it to
> leave your messages on the server "Until I delete them."
>
> That way, mail you get but do not delete on one computer will still be
> available to be re-downloaded on the other computer.
>
> Daly
>
>
>

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4a.

Hitachi vs. Toshiba: should I send this hard drive back?

Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net   andrewbuc

Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:45 pm (PST)



Back story: For the last few years I've been cloning my hard drive
weekly, using SuperDuper, to an 80GB one of these drives:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/on-the-go

When I got a PC a couple of years ago, I got an external Verbatim HD
that an online vendor had on sale, and I started backing up the PC to
it. A few days ago the Verbatim drive died, so I figured I'd get
another (320GB) On-the-Go Pro drive to back up the Mac and start
backing up the PC to the 80GB OTGP.

I've had the impression for some time that Hitachi hard drives are
really the gold standard. When I got the PC upgraded to a bigger
drive 7 months ago, I specifically had the tech use a Hitachi drive.
I noticed that the older OTGP had a Hitachi drive in the case, and
when I called Other World Computing to order the new drive, I asked
the salesman if they were still using Hitachi drives. He said they
were, and I said, "Good!"

So--after owning the new drive for about a day, I took a closer look
through the transparent case, and it's a Toshiba drive. I called OWC
and got a different customer service rep from the one I ordered the
drive from. He said that what with supply chain disruptions and
flooding in Thailand, they weren't always using Hitachi drives at the
moment. He took a look at the website (where the salesman presumably
got his info), confirmed that it said the case would contain a
Hitachi drive, and more or less acknowledged that it would be a good
idea for OWC the website to reflect the current reality. He said that
I could return the drive for a refund, or I could buy just the case,
get a Hitachi drive from wherever, and roll my own. I told him that
I'd be a lot happier about this if I'd been told up front that I
might not be getting a Hitachi drive and been able to make an
informed decision.

I'd also add that in the late '80s I got a Toshiba hard drive with a
particularly good word-of-mouth reputation for reliability, and it
died within 2 years. Maybe Toshiba drives have improved, or that one
was a fluke, but it didn't dispose me favorably toward Toshiba drives.

So--I can go forward with the Toshiba-based OTGP, or I can order a
bare case and a Hitachi drive as the guy suggested--more delay, the
hassle of putting the drive in the case, or driving 12 miles each way
to have my local Mac tech install it. And in the meantime I'd have to
choose which computer to back up. Both computers have had new HDs in
the last couple years (the PC in the last 7 months), and I'm not
really expecting an HD failure, but then one never really expects an
HD failure.

I should mention that doing backup duty, these drives are seeing only
~90 minutes a week of use, so maybe a different in longevity between
Hitachi and Toshiba drives isn't that big a deal in my case.

Any thoughts? Thanks. (resisting the urge to vent big-time)

4b.

Re: Hitachi vs. Toshiba: should I send this hard drive back?

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:15 pm (PST)




On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Buc wrote:

> Any thoughts?

Funny you should ask. 8-)

We had a heated discussion on another Macintosh discussion list about
whether it is even important that one brand of drive may be more
reliable than another, because hard drives in general are so
unreliable, especially recently. One person argued that no matter
what drive you purchase, you need to keep at least one meticulously
updated backup of you like your data, and probably more than one. I
agreed about the backup, but my feeling is that it is still very
valuable to have the most reliable primary drive possible.

The hard drive industry has been experiencing consolidation.

Western Digital just recently purchased Hitachi which had previously
purchased IBM's hard drive division
<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/wd-buys-hitachi-gst-the-good-and-
the-bad/1309>

Seagate purchased Samsung's hard drive division
<http://blogs.forbes.com/briancaulfield/2011/04/19/seagate-agrees-to-
buy-samsungs-hard-drive-business-in-1-375-billion-deal/>

Earlier Seagate purchased Maxtor which had previously purchased Quantum
<http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/05/12/21/1311235/Seagate-buys-
Maxtor-for-19B>
<http://articles.sfgate.com/2000-10-05/business/17663615_1_maxtor-
quantum-ceo-michael-brown-net-loss>

Toshiba purchased Fujitsu's hard drive division
<http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2009/02/18/toshiba-to-buy-
fujitsu-hdd-division/1>

Basically there are now only three players in the rotating disk hard
drive field, and Toshiba concentrates on drives for mobile computers.

So, I asked a friend who owns a well-known hard drive data recovery
service which drives (speaking only of internal drives, not
externals) are still well made and the most reliable. He said that
HItachi drives have really gone downhill since the purchase by WD.
Even Hitachi's "enterprise-class" hard drives are now only as good as
their consumer class drives were previously.

He said that Samsung hard drives are now the gold standard, which
surprises me, because Seagate drives (Seagate owns Samsung's drive
business now) are no longer as well tested and as reliable as they
used to be. He says that Samsung drives rarely fail.

He said that Western Digital drives are an abomination. He said that
they aren't even made by WD in most cases anymore. Manufacturing is
outsourced to a bunch of far east manufacturers who don't even
necessarily use the same parts as each other.

With regard to your decision about your Other World Computing drive,
my *guess* is that the drive will be about as good as any other
drive. Other World Computing claims to do their own testing of
drives before settling on which to use, and, at least in the past,
that has showed because their drives have been very reliable.
However, the flooding in Thailand, and the disruption in
manufacturing may have caused them to be desperate and to lower their
standards, I just don't know.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

5a.

namebench and hijacking

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:47 pm (PST)



This is a namebench test description of a server I had used under network settings. What happens when there is hijacking? I see this on several server addresses of which namebench tests.

> A backup DNS server for this system.
> www.facebook.com appears incorrect: 69.171.228.39
> NXDOMAIN Hijacking
> twitter.com appears incorrect: 199.59.148.82, 199.59.148.10, 199.59.149.230
> www.paypal.com is hijacked: www.paypal.com.akadns.net

John R

5b.

Re: namebench and hijacking

Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com   jrswebhome

Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:31 pm (PST)



Well, heck, only what 6-12 hours old. Yahoo at it's best.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>
> This is a namebench test description of a server I had used under network settings. What happens when there is hijacking? I see this on several server addresses of which namebench tests.
>
> > A backup DNS server for this system.
> > www.facebook.com appears incorrect: 69.171.228.39
> > NXDOMAIN Hijacking
> > twitter.com appears incorrect: 199.59.148.82, 199.59.148.10, 199.59.149.230
> > www.paypal.com is hijacked: www.paypal.com.akadns.net
>
> John R
>

6a.

Re: Ok, one more time!

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:32 pm (PST)



When a DNS server is hijacked, that means that it has been taken over by a hacker, and can redirect users to fake, often malicious websites.
NEVER use a hijacked DNS server.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.2

On Nov 22, 2011, at 4:44 PM, HAL9000 wrote:

I ran namebench. Namebench reported several servers as being hijacked. What is the meaning of hijacked? Is that an assault by hacking software? Is the server controlled by hackers? Or is it just too busy to function. Was Yahoo AGAIN hacked this morning, once again proving the unreliability of Yahoo or the web in general to function when one needs it to function?

7a.

Re: Trojan Horse "DevilRobber"

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:35 pm (PST)



The level of "vulnerability" and the avenue of attack are nothing new. This exactly replicates exploits that existed six or seven years ago.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.2

On Nov 22, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

In short, the evidence is mounting that organized crime, the primary source of malware, is gearing up to target Mac users. It would not be wise to continue to be complacent about the relative "invulnerability" of Macs.

8a.

Re: modem/router question with Magic Jack

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:36 pm (PST)



Regarding this situation, I bought a switch but it didn't do the job.
Then bought a router and it did work. HOWEVER, after lots of back and
forth with many MagicJack live chat people, someone there FINALLY
told me that even with the promise of MJ PLUS that "no computer is
needed", I couldn't use it without an Intel Mac. I had asked that
question of maybe TEN live chatters and not one of them answered me
until finally the last one did. Sooo, until I get a newer computer,
Magicjack is being returned.

On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Denver Dan wrote:

Howdy.

I'm not sure I can be any help here. I tried to find tech info on the
RCA Digital Broadband device you mention but can only find it for sale
used on eBay and a few other places.

If the RCA cable modem device is like similar devices, then the Fry Guy
may have not known what he was talking about. He may also have been
trying to talk you into doing some upgrades. I have no idea.

Call ComCast and ask if they can change out your cable modem to
something more up to date with several Ethernet ports. (I have a
"cable modem" router provided by Verizon for coax cable/FiOS fiber
optic, and Internet and it includes WiFi AND 4 Ethernet ports.)

Normally, when a "cable modem" has an Ethernet port you can get a low
cost Ethernet switch with 4 ports and run an Ethernet cable from the
router/RCA device to the Ethernet switch. This arrangement the
provides 4 Ethernet ports.

If you need more than 4 ports, you can get 5 port, 8 port, 12 port, 16
port, and 24 port Ethernet Switches.

Any device plugged into an Ethernet port on the Ethernet Switch
(computer, Magic Jack) will then have access to the Internet and 4 of
them can be plugged in at the same time.

To make all this work and to be sure you can have things move data at
the fastest possible speed you need to match some speed ratings up on
each device.

1. Get an Ethernet Switch rated for the current fast speed called
Gigabit Ethernet (sometimes seen as 1000BaseT).

2. The Ethernet cables need to also be rated/designed for this faster
speed. Look for cables that are rated as Cat 5e or Cat 6. "Cat" just
means Category. 5e is fine and 6 is for long distances. You might see
cables rated at Cat 3, Cat 3e, and Cat 5 so avoid them.

3. Don't get an Ethernet Hub should you come across one. Get the
thing called a "Switch."

Denver Dan

On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:57:49 -0500, Louise Stewart wrote:
> I have a G-4. I want to try out Magic Jack Plus since it can be used
> without plugging into the computer. For a Mac user, the computer must
> be Intel to use Magic Jack and mine isn't. So, I ordered Magic Jack
> Plus and started hooking it up. BUT it seems that my modem has one
> Ethernet slot and I'd need two so the MJP can be plugged in, or else
> I'd have to switch back and forth between having a phone or having
> the Internet on my computer.
>
> My modem says: RCA by Thomson, Digital Broadband, Model DHG-535-2. On
> the back, there's a place where the computer plugs in, then two
> telephone slots, one Ethernet slot, a USB slot and the slot for the
> cable cord. This modem came from Comcast when I subscribed about 3-5
> yrs ago.
>
> I called Magic Jack and was told I needed a modem with two Ethernet
> slots. I told them they should say that in their advertising.
>
> So I went to Fry's Electronics yesterday. A salesman who seemed very
> informed said modems don't come with two Ethernet slots, that I'd
> need to buy two things he showed me: Motorola Cable Modem PLU 6726555
> for $99.99 and a Netgear N300 Router PLU 6069588 for $69.99. He said
> installation is a bit complicated and they can come do it for $99.99.
> If all this is needed, that doesn't make Magic Jack such a good deal.
> Plus, it's here on a 30-day trial to see how I like it. I already
> don't like it if I have to spend all this money to know if I like it.
>
> I plan to get a Mac MIni but other things are taking precedent right
> now. The Fry's guy also said my current RCA box (installed by
> Comcast) won't work when I get the Mini Mac, that I'd need these
> newer contraptions.
>
> Then, it occurred to me today that since I have a modem, why would
> the Fry's guy say I need this new one? Couldn't I just get a router
> and get that hooked up to my current modem? I have noooooo idea about
> ANY of this, being a total non-technical sort.
>
> Can anyone give me info on what I need to do?
>
> Louise

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9.

Re: Mail accounts

Posted by: "titnaw titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com   titnaw

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:08 am (PST)



Thanks Harry,
I changed to subject heading and hope this helps.
I did change the server settings in tools as Daly suggested so I hope that
works.
I have one account in apple mail set up for me at the apple store. I have
gone to add accounts and tried to add accounts but the mail all comes into
one mail box.
Is there a way we can have separate mail boxes for each family members
email?
I went to help and support but did not find this
Thanks, everyone is very helpful
Titnaw

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
> > On Nov 22, 2011, at 5:47 AM, titnaw wrote:
> >
> >> I have thunderbird and seem to miss a lot of messages. I do have this
> email on another computer that uses Outlook Express. Do you think that is
> what is happening
> >> Titnaw
> >
> >
> > Have you tried using Apple Mail? It's pretty versatile, and the newest
> version is good at keeping threads together. I use it for all of my 6
> different public and 'private' email accounts.
> >
> > Haven't missed a piece of mail yet!
> >
> > Harry
>
> Sorry, just caught up with this thread. The whole idea was that Mail was
> slow.
>
> Whoops!
>
> Harry
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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10a.

Re: I lost my documents on desktop

Posted by: "titnaw titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com   titnaw

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:11 am (PST)



Thanks Harry,
I think I have too many.The ones I do not use all the time, should I send
them to trash and then when I do want to use the program find them in the
finder?
Titnaw

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2011, at 5:55 AM, titnaw wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> > I was able to find it the way John told me. I put the hard drive on the
> desktop and then to the bottom right and opened home and went to the user
> folder and then home icon and put the document folder on the left side of
> the bottom of the desktop.
>
> Do take care in how many visible icons you keep no the desktop. Being as
> most of them are 'live updating' icons, they can slow the system down by
> having to refresh them constantly. It's never been recommended to keep
> much, if anything, on the desktop in the way of icons.
>
> Harry
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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10b.

Re: I lost my documents on desktop

Posted by: "titnaw titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com   titnaw

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:17 am (PST)



Thanks Daly, It worked! I now have my home icon there!
This is exciting to me to learn all this from all of you
Titnaw

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2011, at 2:55 AM, titnaw wrote:
>
> > Thanks,
> > I was able to find it the way John told me. I put the hard drive on the
> desktop and then to the bottom right and opened home and went to the user
> folder and then home icon and put the document folder on the left side of
> the bottom of the desktop.
> >
> > When I go to the finder window the icon with the face and 2 colors I do
> not see any thing that says Places. When I opened it up on the left it says
> > all files, air drop, applications, downloads, documents, movies, music
> and pictures
> > Is there suppose to be Places too.
> > Thanks to you and John I now have my folder but would like to save all
> advise incase it happens again
>
> Sorry, I should have realized you were running Lion. You're right. There's
> no "Places" category in the Sidebar in Lion. I just checked it out, and
> found that I had to go to the "Finder" menu and choose Preferences. In
> Preferences, click the "Sidebar" tab at the top. There, in the category
> labeled "Favorites," click to check the box next to the little house icon
> with your name on it. Close the preferences window. Now when you open the
> Finder, you should see your house icon (your home). When you click it you
> should then see all your personal folders, including your Documents folder.
>
> Daly
>
>
>

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10c.

Re: I lost my documents on desktop

Posted by: "titnaw titnaw" titnaw@gmail.com   titnaw

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:19 am (PST)



So Is this a good idea.
Do I make a new folder for the icons I do not always use?
Titnaw

2011/11/22 OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net>

> **
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:05:27 -0500, Harry Flaxman wrote:
> > ...It's never been recommended to keep much, if anything, on the
> > desktop in the way of icons.
>
> I keep an Alias folder on my Desktop. The Alias folder points to a
> "Desktop Items" folder on one of my HDs. I drop all files on the Desktop
> into the "Desktop Items" Alias folder. This keeps my Desktop neat, and I
> can view the items by opening the Alias folder. Alternatively, the Alias
> folder could be in the Dock instead of on the Desktop.
>
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
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Re: I lost my documents on desktop

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:58 am (PST)



You can create a stack for easy launching of apps. Drag the Applications folder icon from the Finder to the right hand side of the dock, to the left of the Trash. You then left click on it and all of your app icons are there for the launching. If you right click on this stack, you can choose the way to display them, grid, list .. etc.

I use this and have since stacks have been around. I wish there were a way to disable the new stuff like Launchpad. I will never use it. I tried and just don't like it. There is no rhyme or reason as to how the icons are placed in Launchpad. I can't find anything quickly and often miss things.

Harry

On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:11 AM, titnaw titnaw wrote:

> Thanks Harry,
> I think I have too many.The ones I do not use all the time, should I send
> them to trash and then when I do want to use the program find them in the
> finder?
> Titnaw
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:
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>> On Nov 22, 2011, at 5:55 AM, titnaw wrote:
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>>> Thanks,
>>> I was able to find it the way John told me. I put the hard drive on the
>> desktop and then to the bottom right and opened home and went to the user
>> folder and then home icon and put the document folder on the left side of
>> the bottom of the desktop.
>>
>> Do take care in how many visible icons you keep no the desktop. Being as
>> most of them are 'live updating' icons, they can slow the system down by
>> having to refresh them constantly. It's never been recommended to keep
>> much, if anything, on the desktop in the way of icons.
>>
>> Harry
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>> Harry Flaxman
>> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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10e.

Re: I lost my documents on desktop

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:00 am (PST)



Oh yes, this will not use any Desktop real estate. The only thing I ever use my desktop for is temporary files that I am currently working on. This way, I am reminded to get rid of things when I am done for the day, rather than let them pile up in a folder that's out of site. Generally, these are document, Pages, or Word files anyway, so they don't update unless you change the document.

Harry

On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:11 AM, titnaw titnaw wrote:

> Thanks Harry,
> I think I have too many.The ones I do not use all the time, should I send
> them to trash and then when I do want to use the program find them in the
> finder?
> Titnaw
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> **
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>>
>>
>> On Nov 22, 2011, at 5:55 AM, titnaw wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> I was able to find it the way John told me. I put the hard drive on the
>> desktop and then to the bottom right and opened home and went to the user
>> folder and then home icon and put the document folder on the left side of
>> the bottom of the desktop.
>>
>> Do take care in how many visible icons you keep no the desktop. Being as
>> most of them are 'live updating' icons, they can slow the system down by
>> having to refresh them constantly. It's never been recommended to keep
>> much, if anything, on the desktop in the way of icons.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Harry Flaxman
>> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>>
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Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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