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1.: Siri development team one of the largest groups at Apple

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:01 am (PDT)

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2.: Apple iPhone 4S review

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:02 am (PDT)

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The iPhone 4S is Apple's top of the line smartphone, but is it just a
small upgrade over the iPhone 4 or something entirely different? It
looks the same, but does it act the same? New in the iPhone 4S is Siri,
Apple's virtual personal assistant, along with an upgraded camera,
twice the speed as far as processing and downloads are concerned, and a
redesigned antenna system that also supports global roaming for Verizon
and Sprint users. Are these new features enough to upgrade your iPhone
4, though? What about iPhone 3GS owners or maybe even those of you who
are stuck using some other smartphone you bought because the
salesperson said it was just good as that iPhone your carrier didn't
offer at the time? Read on to find out.

Hardware / Design

The iPhone 4S combines some of the best materials with what is arguably
the finest smartphone design on the planet — you don't even need to see
or hold one to know that. Why? Because it's basically identical to the
original iPhone 4 that launched last year in June.

While the iPhone 4S external hardware doesn't greatly differ from the
iPhone 4, there are some subtle and welcome changes. For starters, the
iPhone 4S incorporates the updated external antenna design found on the
Verizon iPhone 4. Instead of three breaks in the stainless steel middle
band that surrounds the handset, there are now four symmetrically
placed breaks.

I like this layout better because while Apple's "Antennagate" issues
were exaggerated, it was still a problem at times if you happened to
hold the phone in a way that completely smothered the bottom-left
corner of the phone. After over a year of consciously and then
subconsciously avoiding that spot with my grip, this new antenna design
makes me feel a bit more at ease. In fact, I haven't noticed an issue
at all even when purposely applying the death grip across one, two or
even all four seams this time around.

There are also a few physical hardware changes like a redesigned home
button (mostly from the inside) that should fix reliability issues.
While not touted by Apple, I can also tell that there has been a big
change with the microphone and speakerphone, but I'll go into that a
little bit later.

The big upgrades with the iPhone 4S are internal. The iPhone 4 wasn't a
slow device by any means; in fact, it performed and felt faster than
most other smartphones that had much faster processors thanks to
Apple's complete control over the OS from top to bottom, including the
user interface. The iPhone 4S though, is much faster than the iPhone 4
with most tasks, and it offers up seven times the graphics performance
of the iPhone 4. Apps open instantly now, there's no lag whatsoever,
web browsing (which was already arguably better than it is on any other
mobile device) is even faster now, and gaming on the 4S most certainly
has a notable performance increase.

This device, Apple touts, is the first smartphone to incorporate two
antennas that is able to switch between them even while on a phone
call, offering a superior phone calling experience. This is in addition
to being a true world phone for Verizon and newcomer Sprint, who for
the first time is offering the iPhone 4S and the previous-generation
iPhone 4. In short: Apple made the best smartphone, from a hardware and
design perspective, even better.
iOS 5

Apple released iOS 5 as a free upgrade for all iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4,
iPad, iPad 2, and third and fourth-generation iPod touch owners. It
also ships with the iPhone 4S. The new operating system brings some
much needed features and enhancements to the iOS platform to play catch
up with competitors, while also leaping beyond other platforms in other
areas.

A major pain point in previous versions of iOS, for example, was the
notifications system. They were obtrusive, they we're obstructive, they
were so old school. Thankfully iOS 5 brings Notification Center, a new
pull-down drawer that features all of your notifications from each and
every app you'd like in addition the local weather and stocks courtesy
of Apple widgets. Instead of a pop-up making you either dismiss it or
read the message, new alerts simply drop down at the very top of your
screen, allowing you to continue going about your business while of
course letting you go into that specific alert if you'd like. It's a
system we've seen before, of course, but it's better in a lot of ways.

Also new in iOS 5 is iMessage. Apple has finally introduced a messaging
service that not only eliminates the need for many text messaging
packages and saves you money, but also lets you communicate with any
other iOS 5 device including iPad and iPod touch devices without a
cellular connection. It's Apple's version of BlackBerry Messenger, and
while it doesn't offer the ability to request / deny buddies, or offer
advanced features like group calendar sharing, it's an excellent
alternative that seamlessly integrates into the Messages app. By
default, Apple will use iMessage, signified by a blue chat bubble as
opposed to a green one, allowing you to bypass your carrier's text
message service in order to use Apple's free one instead. Messages also
show if they were delivered or read by the recipient, and you can share
photos, videos, your location, contacts, and more over iMessage.

Another big addition to the iOS experience that comes alongside iOS 5
is iCloud, which works hand in hand with the brand new iPhone 4S.

With iCloud, you're able to stop worrying about syncing your content
and let Apple push it instantly to all of your computers and mobile
devices. For instance, you can start working on a document in iWork on
your computer, pick up your iPad when you're on the sofa and pick up
right where you left off, all without saving, emailing, uploading, or
anything. The same thing goes with your media and content. Purchase a
song from iTunes or download an app from the App Store and it's
immediately available on your other iOS devices and even in your iTunes
library on your computer. iCloud works across third party apps as well
so you can put down a game you're playing on your iPhone, pick up your
iPad and resume from the level or place you paused at.

Another major iCloud feature is called Photo Stream. After testing this
feature for the last few months, I'm completely in love with it. If you
have more than one computer, it used to be difficult to manage an iOS
device as data including photos could only be synced with one computer.
With Photo Stream, Apple automatically pushes your photos to all of
your computers and other iOS devices, and it stores up to 1,000 photos
for 30 days. Just grab the photos you want, and drag them to an album
on any computer or even make one right from the iPhone 4S itself, and
you don't ever have to worry about syncing your photos again.

Other notable iOS 5 additions include the ability to sync your device
to iTunes over Wi-Fi instead of plugging it in, wireless nightly
backups to iCloud, and important enhancements to the Mail app like the
ability to flag your emails, search all content, mark all as read, and
more. Lastly, iOS 5 enables you to use your smartphone or device
completely PC-free. This means you don't need to plug it into a
computer to set it up — in fact, you don't have to use a computer for
anything if you don't want. You can make email boxes on the fly, make
photo albums, and even set up and manage your Apple wireless network
right from your iOS device.

All in all, iOS 5 brings over 200 new features and changes to the iOS
platform and they add up to a dramatic improvement over a user
experience that was already phenomenal.
Siri

There are a few words I can think of that can accurately describe Siri:
game-changing, mind-blowing, revolutionary, empowering. Is Siri really
that big a deal? Yes, and here's why:

In it's current iteration as a sassy voice-driven personal assistant,
Siri is incredible. It's by far the best artificial intelligence
solution that's ever been offered to consumers (and I'm sure even to
most non-consumers as well). Siri not only can respond to ordinary
tasks but it also has the ability to extend beyond the device and pull
in information from many sources of information like Wolfram Alpha,
Yelp, Wikipedia, and more.

There are many people who won't understand the fawning over Siri, and
following the Apple event earlier this month, a part of me was
initially skeptical of Siri's usefulness beyond the initial novelty
when I would play around with it and show it off to friends and family.
Then I got in my car and drove somewhere. Texting and driving is
terrible, but let's be honest, most of us glance at our phones or worse
when we're in the car. Siri enabled me to get all of my new text
messages and emails, reply to my text messages, check my calendar, move
an appointment, create an appointment including inviting someone to the
meeting, check the weather, play a specific song, find where a specific
friend was in the world (using Apple's Find My Friends app), and make a
few phone calls. I didn't look at my phone once. Now that's a game
changer.

Siri allows you to have a normal conversation with your phone, and it
actually is a tad bit… unsettling at first. Asking your phone to move
your 1:00 p.m. calendar appointment to 3:00 p.m., call your mother
back, text your friend and tell him that the movie he recommended you
see was horrendous, how much 1912 times 451 is, how do I get home,
remind me to grab my sunglasses when I leave the office, and how the
markets are doing is just ridiculous. I've asked Siri her age, what her
favorite color is, where she is from, and other personal questions, and
each time there's a personal response, most of the time with slight
snark.

Now, Siri does have a few hiccups. It relies on the network, so if
you're using something like Optimum's Wi-Fi hotspots when you're out
and about, this can cause a little bit of an issue as you switch on and
off of Wi-Fi access points since Siri won't be able to connect to the
server when you're disconnecting. And the few times you're on an EDGE
or 1x network, Siri can take a while instead of coming back with a
response almost instantly. There are also some times when Siri will
mess up, but I have found that even if you don't say a few words
clearly enough, or Siri doesn't detect them clearly enough, that most
of the time the response will still turn out alright. When Siri
misunderstands a word, you can also edit it with a simple tap to ensure
an accurate response. Then of course there are the comical times Siri
doesn't get what you're saying at all, but those luckily don't happen
too much.

In addition to Siri, the personal assistant that lives on your iPhone
4S, you're also able to dictate text in any text field on the iPhone
using the new microphone button on the virtual keyboard. This is very
similar to a feature Android has had for years. Fortunately, this works
way, way better.

It was rumored that Nuance is powering this feature (and parts of
Siri), and I'd believe it as this performs just like the Dragon
Dictation iPhone app, but being built-in changes everything. Even with
background noise, Siri and voice dictation normally worked flawlessly
thanks to the iPhone's second microphone for noise cancellation. Again,
while driving, I didn't have to check my phone once and I could carry
on a perfectly accurate text conversation with someone. It's
incredible. When you think that Apple has labeled this as a beta, and
that the system will improve over time, this is going to be the next
big revolution as far as computer and device input is concerned. We're
actually starting to live in a world where you can speak naturally to
your device and it won't only understand you, but it will give you a
little bit of attitude as well. Imagine something like this in
different aspects of technology… what about in your TV? Instead of
fumbling for the remote and navigating through those terrible,
terrible, cable box interfaces, just tell your TV to tune to ESPN, or
record a specific show at a certain time, and it's done. Think about
how bad car navigation and voice control is, even in the best
automobiles. This is the start of the next revolution in terms of
interacting with a computer, just as a mouse was, just as touch was.

Siri works internationally with five languages and a few localizations,
though there are some features that are limited to the U.S. for now.
Apple will expand Siri to more regions and languages in 2012.
Camera / Video capture

The camera on the iPhone 4S is the best camera I have ever used on a
mobile device.

I remember years ago buying a Sharp GX22 and then GX30 camera phone and
being impressed at the quality of photos that the phones could take.
The first was a VGA camera phone, but it had a better lens than any
other phone on the market, and the second featured a 1-megapixel
camera. It was the first time I realized that megapixels weren't the
only thing that mattered as far as photos were concerned.

That's not to say 8-megapixels isn't impressive on a smartphone, but
it's what those 8-megapixels can serve up that matters, and on the
iPhone 4S, they are the best photos I have seen taken on a non-camera.
In fact, the camera is good enough to where I have no longer need to
bring an actual camera anywhere I go outside of a dSLR for specific
purposes. With face detection (it supports up to 10 people in the same
photo) exposure is properly set, with the ability to use the volume up
button as a shutter button, you no longer have to go hunting around for
the on-screen shutter button, and with new features like grid lines
that help you compose a shot even better, the camera on the iPhone 4S
is a winner.

That's not even considering how amazing the iPhone 4s is in low-light
situations, or how with the new camera button on the lock screen
combined with the speed of the 4S and optics, you can take a photo in
under 4 seconds from getting your phone out of your pocket — you won't
ever miss a shot again. Photos can now be taken in rapid succession,
and with the ability to edit photos right on the device itself,
including red eye removal, cropping, and an auto-enhance feature, the
iPhone 4S offers the most compelling camera package on any smartphone
or mobile device.

As far as the video camera goes on the iPhone 4S, it's almost equally
as impressive. Finally you're able to capture full 1080p HD video right
from your iPhone, and in addition to crystal clear, full-frame 1080p
video, the iPhone 4S offers up something even better: brilliantly,
using the gyro built into the device (it can sense the device's
orientation and position on three different axes), video captured with
the iPhone 4S is automatically stabilized as it's taken, eliminating
almost all shakes and jagged video. Additionally, using the same noise
cancellation techniques that the phone uses for voice calling and for
interacting with Siri, audio taken with videos is almost always crisp
and clear.
Phone / Speaker

Apple's iPhones have not ever been excellent phones for voice calling.
Blame the networks, blame the radios or blame whatever else you want —
voice calls were almost never a good experience. I'm extremely happy
that the iPhone 4S finally starts to break that mold.

In terms of radio performance, speed and call quality, I am incredibly
impressed. I have more service in more places, fewer dropped calls
(just about on par with a phone like a BlackBerry 9700, which runs very
well on AT&T's network) and better call quality. The reason for the
change? Well, Apple's new antenna system is surely a part of it as is
the updated software on the device, but I think we have to give some
credit to the Qualcomm radio that Apple has finally migrated to.
Qualcomm is known for making class-topping chips, and this is a welcome
change.

Finally, the speakerphone on the iPhone 4S improves on an already solid
experience. It's not only louder than it was on previous models, but
it's clearer as well, offering call and music audio that's not
distorted or choppy. This improvement most likely has to do with Siri
in order to ensure the experience with Apple's new personal assistant
is top-notch and crystal clear, but the improvements trickle down into
other areas of the device as well.
Battery

Apple notes that battery life on the iPhone 4S should be comparable to
the iPhone 4 even though the smartphone features a dual-core processor
with two times the speed and seven times the graphics performance over
the previous model. The company also notes that the iPhone 4S will
perform better in some key areas, like delivering an extra hour of talk
time over 3G than its predecessor. It comes at the cost of one less
hour of internet usage over Wi-Fi (10% less), and 33% less standby
time. At first these sound like big changes, especially in standby
time, but over the last few days I didn't notice much of a difference
in battery performance compared to the iPhone 4.
Conclusion

Apple didn't introduce a brand new iPhone with a radical new case
design, larger display, 4G, or the ability to make you a cup of
espresso. What Apple did do is drastically improve upon the company's
most successful smartphone ever — and the most popular smartphone in
the world — the iPhone 4.

The iPhone 4S is better in every way possible, including being up to
two times faster as far as regular use is concerned. It also features
the best camera and video camera on a smartphone ever, drastically
improved voice calling performance, global support, downloads up to
twice as fast, and Siri, a game-changing virtual personal assistant
that is the start of a shift in how we interact with computers and
mobile devices.

The iPhone 4S comes at a time when most iPhone 3GS users are coming up
for their wireless service renewal. The iPhone 4S isn't just impressive
to an iPhone 3GS owner, it blows the doors off almost any Android
alternative (I'd say all, but then I'd fear for my survival), and if
you're big on photography, an on-the-go person who might need an extra
hand from your phone, or even require the ability to use your phone
internationally if you're on Verizon or Sprint, the iPhone 4S is a
worthy upgrade from any smartphone. Whether it's an iPhone 3GS or
iPhone 4, a feature phone or a BlackBerry, this is the best phone Apple
has ever made, and there isn't another company in the world that could
deliver all of these features in such a beautifully designed, tightly
integrated, and enjoyable packages.

With the iPhone 4S starting at $199 from each of the three largest
carriers in the U.S. (finally), Apple is also making the original
iPhone 4 available at only $99 for the 8GB model. Make no mistake, this
is the most formidable smartphone tag team that exists on the planet,
and while you can't go wrong with either device, the iPhone 4S really
pushes what we can do with mobile devices even further into the future.

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3.: Apple offers special limited time prices on gen-1 iPads

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:05 am (PDT)

Anyone wanting a 'cheap' 1st Gen iPad

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple offers special
limited time prices on gen-1 iPads via 9to5Mac by Christian Zibreg on
10/17/11

From 9to5Toys.com:

The online Apple Store is having a clearance of the original iPad for
three select WiFi and WiFi + 3G models, including the flagship 64GB
WiFi + 3G iPad. Now available for up to $200-$230 less compared to
their original list prices, these products come looking like new and
with the same 1-year warranty that other Apple products receive. All
refurbished iPad models also include a brand new battery and outer
shell. Supplies are time-limited, as indicated by the Special Limited
Time Price designation. Availability is guaranteed upon receipt of full
payment.

• Refurbished 64GB WiFi iPad: Now available for $399, down from $599, a
$200 saving
• Refurbished 32GB WiFi + 3G iPad, now available for $399 down from
$629 a $230 saving
• Refurbished 64GB WiFi + 3G iPad , now available for $499, down from
$729, a $230 saving

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4.: iOS 5: Tips To Improve iPhone's Battery Life

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:07 am (PDT)

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iPhone's Battery Life via iPhone Hacks by Yatri on 10/16/11
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experiencing major battery-life issues. It seems that iPhone and iPad
users are more affected than iPod touch users. Regardless of which iOS
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5.: Article: iOS 5 Battery Life Worse? Fix Draining Battery Problems wit

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Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:08 am (PDT)

iOS 5 Battery Life Worse? Fix Draining Battery Problems with these Tips
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6a.: Re: WiFi Scanner App

Posted by: "Jim Showalter" jshowalt@mindspring.com jshowalt94127

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:08 am (PDT)

Well, I think what started this part of the thread was that Apple had removed scanners like WifiTrak from the app store, and the version that people had on their phones before have now stopped working with iOS5. My comment was intended to be an explanation of why a wifi scanner like that is sometimes necessary.

I will certainly miss WiFiTrak when I upgrade my 3Gs to iOS5, and later get the iPhone 4s. Such scanners are really essential to wifi network setup/trouble shooting in high density areas. There are times when I see as many as 10 access points around my neighberhood. With 11 channels, it gets crowded, but most people seem to pick the same channel - 11. When I set up my wifi a few years ago, I picked 11 thinking that others setting up new ones would use the default of 1, but it hasn't happened. I need to redo my network :-(

On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:05 AM, Prokic Roger wrote:

> I can't find WiFiTrak on the app store!
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> On Oct 16, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Jim Showalter <jshowalt@mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> WiFiTrak shows all of the wifi signals around me. It is very helpful when my wifi access goes bad to check to see which neighbor has turned on their wifi router using the same channel that I am on, which causes disruption. It also shows those who are using a channel next to mine. It is really necessary for working out wifi channel conflicts. If you're not having wifi conflict problems, then it is useless to you. If you are having wifi conflicts, it is an essential app.
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>> On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Alice Saunders wrote:
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>>> Hmmm.....do I want to know what wifi signals are around me that are locked? No, I wouldn't be able to use them. Free wifi finder tells me which places have free wifi and will give directions to those places so I can use it. It's really all I need. Beggars can't be choosy when it comes to free wifi :-)
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>>>> Kate, That is no the same thing. A scanner would show what WiFi signals the
>>>> phone was hearing around you, how strong they were and if they were locked
>>>> or not.
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6b.: Re: WiFi Scanner App

Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com flapdoodle44

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:17 am (PDT)

Good explanation Jim. I once shifted from Channel 6 to 11 because everyone
around me was on 6. I too am going to miss that app.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jim Showalter <jshowalt@mindspring.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Well, I think what started this part of the thread was that Apple had
> removed scanners like WifiTrak from the app store, and the version that
> people had on their phones before have now stopped working with iOS5. My
> comment was intended to be an explanation of why a wifi scanner like that is
> sometimes necessary.
>
> I will certainly miss WiFiTrak when I upgrade my 3Gs to iOS5, and later get
> the iPhone 4s. Such scanners are really essential to wifi network
> setup/trouble shooting in high density areas. There are times when I see as
> many as 10 access points around my neighberhood. With 11 channels, it gets
> crowded, but most people seem to pick the same channel - 11. When I set up
> my wifi a few years ago, I picked 11 thinking that others setting up new
> ones would use the default of 1, but it hasn't happened. I need to redo my
> network :-(
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:05 AM, Prokic Roger wrote:
>
> > I can't find WiFiTrak on the app store!
> >
> > ---
> > Roger Prokic
> >
> > -=[ this message was sent from my Apple iPhone 4S with iOS 5 ]=-
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Jim Showalter <jshowalt@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> WiFiTrak shows all of the wifi signals around me. It is very helpful
> when my wifi access goes bad to check to see which neighbor has turned on
> their wifi router using the same channel that I am on, which causes
> disruption. It also shows those who are using a channel next to mine. It is
> really necessary for working out wifi channel conflicts. If you're not
> having wifi conflict problems, then it is useless to you. If you are having
> wifi conflicts, it is an essential app.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Alice Saunders wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hmmm.....do I want to know what wifi signals are around me that are
> locked? No, I wouldn't be able to use them. Free wifi finder tells me which
> places have free wifi and will give directions to those places so I can use
> it. It's really all I need. Beggars can't be choosy when it comes to free
> wifi :-)
> >>>
> >>> Alice
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Brent <flapdoodle@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Kate, That is no the same thing. A scanner would show what WiFi
> signals the
> >>>> phone was hearing around you, how strong they were and if they were
> locked
> >>>> or not.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Kate Klein <kate@cholulared.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
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7a.: Re: iCloud XPR pro

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:08 am (PDT)

> I just updated my 3GS on my XP Pro PC.Now I find out the only reason I went through the process, to use iCloud, can only be used if you are running Vista. Is there a work around for this. At least with mobile me no software was required. Is there a work around?
> Cody

I suspect that most computer-knowledgable people would advise you move your computer into the 21st century, and give up XP.

Not *me*, mind you. I avoid Microsoft like the plague, myself....

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8.: Apple: iPhone 4S Sales Top Four Million; More Than 25 Million iOS 5

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:08 am (PDT)

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Top Four Million; More Than 25 Million iOS 5 Users; Over 20 Million
iCloud Signups via iPhone Hacks by iPhoneHacks on 10/17/11
Apple has just announced that it has sold more than 4 million units of
iPhone 4S in just three days after its launch on Friday, October 14th.
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9a.: Re: 3GS updated OS - Battery Life

Posted by: "Susan Ferraglio" bladessf@aol.com bladessf2000

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:08 am (PDT)

Forgot to let you know Bluetooth is in settings three or for under 'about'. Just scroll down - should see bluetooth
Hth
Sue

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Jim Inman <jiminmanjr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sue - Thank you for the prompt reply.
>
> I checked in Settings for my Location Services, and most were turned on... I left on just a few - weather, camera, a couple others. I don't use Bluetooth, but I'm not sure if there is an "off" for that.
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> Where do I turn "Ping" off? I thought that was part of Location Services.
>
> Jim
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> From: Susan Ferraglio <bladessf@aol.com>
> To: "apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com" <apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] 3GS updated OS - Battery Life
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> Hi Jim - there have been complaints even with the new phone. They suggest turning off Ping, location services, Bluetooth etc - just as suggested in years past for battery Life. I just noticed ping was enabled on my 4s so I just turned it off. Will see if it helps. The most drastic suggestion was a complete restore :-0
> Hth
> Sue
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:55 AM, "jiminmanjr" <jiminmanjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Hey all... I have a 3GS, works great, no problems. Over the weekend I upgraded to the new OS (I believe it's iOS5, for the "technical" name). I have all the features - iCloud, the double-tap camera from Home, etc. Everything seems to be in good order.
>>
>> However, I've noticed the battery life has suddenly changed. For example, yesterday I was out running errands, and barely using the phone for anything. In less than 90 minutes it dropped from mid-70% to under 40% battery. I've had to charge the phone each day mid-day, even with my average usage.
>>
>> I'm wondering if iCloud has something to do with it. I am looking for a little guidance.
>>
>> I've followed many of the posts here about the OS, but not much for the 4S (since I don't have the newest phone). So, maybe this was discussed, and I missed it...
>>
>> I've done the obvious stuff, btw - double-tap and closed all open apps, a couple hard resets, etc. but the problem still continues.
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>> Any help would be appreciated!
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9b.: Re: 3GS updated OS - Battery Life

Posted by: "Jo Anne" bluehaze911@gmail.com bluehaze911

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:59 am (PDT)

While reading online about the various iOS5 features, I noticed many with
this problem resolved it by deleting their email accounts and then re-adding
them. Found these instructions:

Delete eMail Accounts, Reset Network Settings, Re-add eMail Accounts

* Delete your email accounts by going to "Settings" > Mail, Contacts,
Calendars > Account Name > Delete Account
* Now Reset Network Settings in "Settings > Reset > Reset Network
Settings
* Reboot the iOS device
* Re-add email accounts back in "Settings" > Mail, Contacts, Calendars
> Add Account

Jo Anne

From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jiminmanjr
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:56 AM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apple-iphone] 3GS updated OS - Battery Life

Hey all... I have a 3GS, works great, no problems. Over the weekend I
upgraded to the new OS (I believe it's iOS5, for the "technical" name). I
have all the features - iCloud, the double-tap camera from Home, etc.
Everything seems to be in good order.

However, I've noticed the battery life has suddenly changed. For example,
yesterday I was out running errands, and barely using the phone for
anything. In less than 90 minutes it dropped from mid-70% to under 40%
battery. I've had to charge the phone each day mid-day, even with my average
usage.

I'm wondering if iCloud has something to do with it. I am looking for a
little guidance.

I've followed many of the posts here about the OS, but not much for the 4S
(since I don't have the newest phone). So, maybe this was discussed, and I
missed it...

I've done the obvious stuff, btw - double-tap and closed all open apps, a
couple hard resets, etc. but the problem still continues.

Any help would be appreciated!

Jim

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10a.: Re: iOS5 Battery

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:15 am (PDT)

>> What is it in iOS5 that is causing more of a drain than the previous version?
>> Sent to you directly from an iPhone 4
>
> Probably dual core processor, Siri and other background services. It was listed on the comparison page and during keynote that standby time was down 100 hours (200 total vs 300 from 4S). Talk time, data usage, etc are all the same.

Dual Core? Siri? Not on his iPhone 4....

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10b.: Re: iOS5 Battery

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:19 am (PDT)

Ahh, I missed that, thought he was asking about 4S for some reason. I must
have IHATMQ diease (I have answered too many questions).

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11.: iOS 5 Tutorial: How to Create and Use a Custom Text Tone in 10 Easy

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:44 am (PDT)

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/iphonealley/sitewide/~3/z09EMayQf04/ios-5-tutorial-how-to-create-and-use-a-custom-text-tone-in-10-easy-steps

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: iOS 5 Tutorial: How to
Create and Use a Custom Text Tone in 10 Easy Steps via iPhone Alley -
iPhone news, app reviews, and accessories on 10/17/11

Other than the 10 prominent, most notable features that Apple showcased
at WWDC this Summer, there is yet another that kind of sneakily made
its way into iOS 5; previously, you only had the ability to create
custom ringtones, but now users can create their own custom text alert
tones.
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12.: Sprint users seem to be having issues with iMessages and FaceTime ca

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:44 am (PDT)

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/gadgetell/~3/rDBgeMThFqY/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Sprint users seem to be
having issues with iMessages and FaceTime calls due to Google Voice via
Gadgetell by Robert Nelson on 10/17/11

We saw the issue where some iOS 5 users were having trouble logging in
with the official Google Voice iOS that we mentioned earlier today and
it looks like there is some additional trouble as well. This latest
issue deals with the iPhone 4S and Sprint users. The trouble, you may
be experiencing some issues with receiving FaceTime calls or iMessages.
According to the details posted on the official Apple Support pages;
"If your Sprint account is integrated with Google Voice, you may be
unable to use your phone number to receive FaceTime calls or
iMessages." That being said, there…

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13a.: Apple is selling almost 1,000 iPhone 4Ss/minute, setting it up to be

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:45 am (PDT)

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/RxaKcNd6UpQ/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple is selling almost
1,000 iPhone 4Ss/minute, setting it up to be the fastest selling gadget
ever via 9to5Mac by Jake Smith on 10/17/11

Shawn Blanc (via The Next Web) calculated this morning that Apple is
selling 16 iPhone 4Ss a second, or roughly 1,000 a minute. Blanc's
figuring comes after Apple announced this morning that there were 4
million iPhone 4Ss sold its opening three day weekend. Figures are also
expected to expand as the iPhone 4S is introduced in 22 more countries
on the 24th.

Reaching this milestone, Apple is on tract to pass Microsoft's Kinect
as the fastest selling consumer device of all time. Microsoft sold 8
million Kinects in the first 60 days, a number Apple could
theoretically pass in the first two weeks.

The success of the iPhone 4S is most likely helped by a few factors:

- The availability on three U.S. carriers: AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint.
AT&T and Sprint both announced opening day sales records on Friday. The
iPhone 4 was only on AT&T in the US.
- iPhone 4 was released in 5 Countries. iPhone 4S was also available in
Canada and Australia in addition.
- iPhone 4 saw serious product shortages while it appears that Apple
made plenty of iPhone 4S's
- There was a longer than normal wait time between the iPhone 4 and 4S
- iPhone 4S is amazing.
We're sure to hear more in Apple's FYQ4 earnings call tomorrow
afternoon.

Related articles

- Apple announces sales of four million iPhone 4S units, more than
double the iPhone 4 launch (9to5mac.com)
- Drop test: iPhone 4S vs. Galaxy S II (9to5mac.com)
- iPhone 4S sells out completely across U.S. carriers (9to5mac.com)
- Samsung "counter-attacking Apple again," seeks to stop iPhone 4S
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13b.: Apple is selling almost 1,000 iPhone 4Ss/minute, setting it up to be

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:45 am (PDT)

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/RxaKcNd6UpQ/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple is selling almost
1,000 iPhone 4Ss/minute, setting it up to be the fastest selling gadget
ever via 9to5Mac by Jake Smith on 10/17/11

Shawn Blanc (via The Next Web) calculated this morning that Apple is
selling 16 iPhone 4Ss a second, or roughly 1,000 a minute. Blanc's
figuring comes after Apple announced this morning that there were 4
million iPhone 4Ss sold its opening three day weekend. Figures are also
expected to expand as the iPhone 4S is introduced in 22 more countries
on the 24th.

Reaching this milestone, Apple is on tract to pass Microsoft's Kinect
as the fastest selling consumer device of all time. Microsoft sold 8
million Kinects in the first 60 days, a number Apple could
theoretically pass in the first two weeks.

The success of the iPhone 4S is most likely helped by a few factors:

- The availability on three U.S. carriers: AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint.
AT&T and Sprint both announced opening day sales records on Friday. The
iPhone 4 was only on AT&T in the US.
- iPhone 4 was released in 5 Countries. iPhone 4S was also available in
Canada and Australia in addition.
- iPhone 4 saw serious product shortages while it appears that Apple
made plenty of iPhone 4S's
- There was a longer than normal wait time between the iPhone 4 and 4S
- iPhone 4S is amazing.
We're sure to hear more in Apple's FYQ4 earnings call tomorrow
afternoon.

Related articles

- Apple announces sales of four million iPhone 4S units, more than
double the iPhone 4 launch (9to5mac.com)
- Drop test: iPhone 4S vs. Galaxy S II (9to5mac.com)
- iPhone 4S sells out completely across U.S. carriers (9to5mac.com)
- Samsung "counter-attacking Apple again," seeks to stop iPhone 4S
sales in Australia and Japan (9to5mac.com)

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14.: MobileMe users experience issues in Apple's transition to iCloud

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224

Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:46 am (PDT)

http://feeds.appleinsider.com/click.phdo?i=febfc48d4a6730fd5dc5269a92fa9c56

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experience issues in Apple's transition to iCloud via AppleInsider on
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The inability of users to merge their Apple IDs has created a myriad of
potential problems for some making the transition from MobileMe to its
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15.1.: Re: Mobile me

Posted by: "Wyldceltic1" wyldceltic1@me.com wyldceltic1

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:00 am (PDT)

I notice now I have 2 me.com addies. Both are the same, but one is Mobile Me and the other is iCloud.

I'm thinking I can use the iCloud one alone. Right?

On Oct 16, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > I know but when i try to log into mobile me it just gets redirected to iCloud anyway. Just seems silly to still have it there.
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> Since I don't [plan to move from MobileMe to iCloud for some weeks, it doesn't seem silly to me.
>
> And "have it there"?
> Where?
> In System Preferences?
> While in System Preferences, go to the menus, View, Customize, and UNcheck MobileMe.
> Then you won't see it, and you won't have to feel silly.
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16a.: Waterproof case - anyone tried it? Life Proof

Posted by: "willanz2" wilanz@gmail.com willanz2

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:11 am (PDT)

Anyone in the group using a Life Proof case? - http://www.lifeproof.com/

Just waiting for my 4S to arrive. It's going from the box right into the case.

I previously used Otterbox for 3G and Ipod Touch. They are nice but after watching their promo video. It looks like this case may work better for me.

http://youtu.be/C6EOO7Jrk6I

Thanks,

William

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16b.: Re: Waterproof case - anyone tried it? Life Proof

Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:14 am (PDT)

I tried that case at Best Buy and was very disappointed.

It will not provide shock protection at all.

But it does provide protection from liquids.. that's it!

Roger

On Oct 17, 2011, at 2:08 PM, willanz2 wrote:

> Anyone in the group using a Life Proof case? - http://www.lifeproof.com/
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> Just waiting for my 4S to arrive. It's going from the box right into the case.
>
> I previously used Otterbox for 3G and Ipod Touch. They are nice but after watching their promo video. It looks like this case may work better for me.
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17a.: Re: sorry to ask

Posted by: "Wyldceltic1" wyldceltic1@me.com wyldceltic1

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:14 am (PDT)

Odd, mine Apple ID has ALWAYS been under my me.com earlier mac.com addy.

On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Prokic Roger wrote:

> Apple has never allowed anyone to use me.com or mac.com for their apple id. I have no idea why.
> I hear Mr. Cook is now interested in fixing this as it's one of the biggest complaints among Apple users.
> I am on a thread at Apple Support about this problem. I hope they fix this one day soon.
>
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17b.: Re: sorry to ask

Posted by: "Prokic Roger" rprokic@me.com rprokic

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:20 am (PDT)

And so there's the conundrum. They allowed it before MobileMe service started as mac.com
Then they let you continue to use it, but people like me that had gmail.com as our AppleIDs were not allowed to convert to me.com when MobileMe came out.

Roger

On Oct 17, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Wyldceltic1 wrote:

> Odd, mine Apple ID has ALWAYS been under my me.com earlier mac.com addy.
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> On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Prokic Roger wrote:
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>> Apple has never allowed anyone to use me.com or mac.com for their apple id. I have no idea why.
>> I hear Mr. Cook is now interested in fixing this as it's one of the biggest complaints among Apple users.
>> I am on a thread at Apple Support about this problem. I hope they fix this one day soon.
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18.: Question 1: Why a new email address?

Posted by: "bob_vandiver" bobv@easystreet.net bob_vandiver

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:40 am (PDT)

When I installed iOS 5 and/or set up iCloud, somewhere in all the fun and frolic I was basically told to create a new email address at me.com. How come? Now I have this extra email address and do not know why I should need it. In fact it seems to be messing up my mail on my iOS device, as iOS Mail seems to shuttle messages between accounts if I trash a message or move them to a "keep" folder for later downloading to my computer. Can I get rid of the address without messing things up?

Bob Vandiver

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19.: Good Bye WiFiTrak

Posted by: "bob_vandiver" bobv@easystreet.net bob_vandiver

Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:47 am (PDT)

I'm gonna miss you. Apart from the obvious utility it provided to the user, it was fun to drive about with it running so one could see all the ...ahem... interesting names that people use for their networks!

Bob Vandiver

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