10/13/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8490

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Chrome Browser for Mac From: Bob Cook
1b.
Re: Chrome Browser for Mac From: Harry Flaxman
1c.
Re: Chrome Browser for Mac From: Jim Hamm
1d.
Re: Chrome Browser for Mac From: Donna Ellis
1e.
Re: Chrome Browser for Mac From: Tod Hopkins
1f.
Re: Chrome Browser for Mac From: James C. Hamm
2a.
Re: Dual-boot Mac and Linux From: Bob Cook
3.
Sad Note To All Computer Users From: Harry Flaxman
4a.
Re: Ethernet Splitter From: Jurgen Richter
4b.
Re: Ethernet Splitter From: DaveC
5a.
Can someone explain this? From: Robert
5b.
Re: Can someone explain this? From: Tod Hopkins
6a.
Printer support on new Macbook Pro From: Bill Morton
6b.
Re: Printer support on new Macbook Pro From: Keith Whaley
6c.
Re: Printer support on new Macbook Pro From: Denver Dan
7a.
Re: Another HD Deal From: DaveC
7b.
Re: Another HD Deal From: Randy B. Singer
7c.
Re: Another HD Deal From: Jim Saklad
7d.
Re: Another HD Deal From: Harry Flaxman
8.
Pogue's Look At iCloud From: Harry Flaxman
9.
Apple Taking Thanksgiving Week Off From: Harry Flaxman
10a.
Copying networked files From: DaveC
10b.
Re: Copying networked files From: Tod Hopkins
11a.
Lion 10.7.2 upgrade From: Jim Smith
11b.
Re: Lion 10.7.2 upgrade From: Harry Flaxman

Messages

1a.

Re: Chrome Browser for Mac

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:54 am (PDT)



I wouldn't use Safari on Apple any more than I use IE in Windows - which is
never. Chrome works great for me, and much better security and privacy. I
seldom use Apple pre-loaded software since alternatives are better.
Sometimes there is no Apple software available, Windows to the rescue.
Bob

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1b.

Re: Chrome Browser for Mac

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:59 am (PDT)



Whatever fits, and whatever''s comfortable. Everyone has favorites.

Harry

On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

> I wouldn't use Safari on Apple any more than I use IE in Windows - which is
> never. Chrome works great for me, and much better security and privacy. I
> seldom use Apple pre-loaded software since alternatives are better.
> Sometimes there is no Apple software available, Windows to the rescue.
> Bob

______________________
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

1c.

Re: Chrome Browser for Mac

Posted by: "Jim Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:19 pm (PDT)



Thanks, Bob. I think I'll give Chrome arty....Jim

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Bob Cook <cookrd1@discoveryowners.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't use Safari on Apple any more than I use IE in Windows - which is
> never. Chrome works great for me, and much better security and privacy. I
> seldom use Apple pre-loaded software since alternatives are better.
> Sometimes there is no Apple software available, Windows to the rescue.
> Bob
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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1d.

Re: Chrome Browser for Mac

Posted by: "Donna Ellis" dellis70@tampabay.rr.com   dellis551

Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:56 pm (PDT)



I use Chrome, Safari and FF interchangeably. Sometimes Safari gets
hung up on certain websites that I maintain. At times Chrome is
faster, but then other times, Safari is faster - why not try Chrome
for a bit and see if you prefer it?
de

At 10:46 AM -0700 10/13/11, James C. Hamm wrote:
>
>
>Hi All. I recently read an article from a writer at MacWorld about
>his dropping Safari and using the Chrome browser instead. He stated
>that with many tabs open WebProcess consumed so much memory that it
>kept slowing Safari down. If anyone on this Forum uses the Chrome
>browser for the Mac, I'd appreciate your comments about it. Thanks.
>Out of curiosity, I've thought about using Chrome, but never have.
>
>Right now, for me, with Safari open just briefly and using
>"ClicktoPlugin", WebProcess is still consuming well over 400MB with
>Safari using another 75MB. I haven't noticed any slowing of Safari,
>but I normally don't have too many tabs open at one time. I still
>shut Safari down occasionally to free up RAM...Jim

1e.

Re: Chrome Browser for Mac

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:15 pm (PDT)



All have strengths and weaknesses and their qualities change over time. All have bugs. I have all three installed. I favor Firefox, switch to Safari if I have a problem with a page, particularly with printing. I rarely use Chrome at the moment, but there was a time not long ago when Firefox was dog slow and Chrome was really fast. Gap has closed way down.

I prefer Firefox because it is familiar and easiest to modify with the add-ons I use. That doesn't make it better.

I see no downside in installing and playing with browsers if you are at all dissatisfied. But the ideal browser is generally the one that has been modified and tweaked for your particular needs, unless it "breaks."

And don't forget Opera. Opera has it's own charms. I used it exclusively for years long ago when it was hands down the fastest and most powerful on Windows. Can't speak to Opera on Mac today.

And there are others.

Cheers,
tod

On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Donna Ellis wrote:

> I use Chrome, Safari and FF interchangeably. Sometimes Safari gets
> hung up on certain websites that I maintain. At times Chrome is
> faster, but then other times, Safari is faster - why not try Chrome
> for a bit and see if you prefer it?
> de
>
> At 10:46 AM -0700 10/13/11, James C. Hamm wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi All. I recently read an article from a writer at MacWorld about
> >his dropping Safari and using the Chrome browser instead. He stated
> >that with many tabs open WebProcess consumed so much memory that it
> >kept slowing Safari down. If anyone on this Forum uses the Chrome
> >browser for the Mac, I'd appreciate your comments about it. Thanks.
> >Out of curiosity, I've thought about using Chrome, but never have.
> >
> >Right now, for me, with Safari open just briefly and using
> >"ClicktoPlugin", WebProcess is still consuming well over 400MB with
> >Safari using another 75MB. I haven't noticed any slowing of Safari,
> >but I normally don't have too many tabs open at one time. I still
> >shut Safari down occasionally to free up RAM...Jim
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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1f.

Re: Chrome Browser for Mac

Posted by: "James C. Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:39 pm (PDT)



Thanks, Donna and Tod, for your comments. I'll just give Chrome a try....Jim

On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Donna Ellis wrote:

> I use Chrome, Safari and FF interchangeably. Sometimes Safari gets
> hung up on certain websites that I maintain. At times Chrome is
> faster, but then other times, Safari is faster - why not try Chrome
> for a bit and see if you prefer it?
> de
>
> At 10:46 AM -0700 10/13/11, James C. Hamm wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hi All. I recently read an article from a writer at MacWorld about
> >his dropping Safari and using the Chrome browser instead. He stated
> >that with many tabs open WebProcess consumed so much memory that it
> >kept slowing Safari down. If anyone on this Forum uses the Chrome
> >browser for the Mac, I'd appreciate your comments about it. Thanks.
> >Out of curiosity, I've thought about using Chrome, but never have.
> >
> >Right now, for me, with Safari open just briefly and using
> >"ClicktoPlugin", WebProcess is still consuming well over 400MB with
> >Safari using another 75MB. I haven't noticed any slowing of Safari,
> >but I normally don't have too many tabs open at one time. I still
> >shut Safari down occasionally to free up RAM...Jim
>

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2a.

Re: Dual-boot Mac and Linux

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:59 am (PDT)



I will ditto that, I use rEFIt to boot Win7, Win8, Lion, SL and Mint on a
netbook. No need for bootcamp.
Bob
On Oct 13, 2011 1:51 PM, "Harry Flaxman" <harry.flaxman@comcast.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The startup manager, rEFITt, forget it that's how it's capitalized, allows
> installation of virtually any system that will run on the hardware, Linux
> included. I have the manager installed on my machine and got at least one
> flavor of Linux, Mint, to run successfully in a single os fashion.
>
> rEFIt: refit.sourceforge.net
>
> Nice boot manager as well.
>
> Harry
>
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>
> > For Bill Boulware, or any other multi-OS expert:
> >
> > Can Boot Camp ONLY be used to set up a partition for Windows, or could
> one instead install, say, Ubuntu Linux in it, and either boot directly into
> Linux, or use the partition within VMWare Fusion or Parallels?
> >
>
> ______________________
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
>
>
>

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3.

Sad Note To All Computer Users

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:06 am (PDT)



Dennis Ritchie, a co-founder of the original Unix and C language, as well as a major computer science figure, passed away today of a long term illness. A blog with some thoughts:

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000903.html

Harry

______________________
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

4a.

Re: Ethernet Splitter

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:06 am (PDT)



Can switches be daisy chained?

Yes they can. Just plug them in to a free port or WAN port on the "home"
or base unit or upstream unit. Follow instructions for the unit you acquire.

FWIW here is my setup:

ISP Router (in basement) ===> 8 port Gigabit switch in upstairs room 1
===> 5 port Gigabit switch in room 2

I can add other switches into one of the available remaining ports on
the ISP Router, or any of the switches already upstairs. Either option
works.

Why so many ports? I have several macs, pc's and printers and they are
all ethernet, so the measly 4 ports on the ISP router just are not enough.
And with ethernet all the printers and macs are usable and visible to
everyone on the wired system (with resp. privileges).

4b.

Re: Ethernet Splitter

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:08 am (PDT)



>Yeh, I should have completed the thread. Any suggestions on brands?
>I need 8 out and one with a coax connector for an old printer.

I've had good experience with NetGear equipment. That is what my ISP
technician used when he replaced our older, slower switch.

>Can switches be daisy chained?

Within reason, you can daisy-chain several switches.

>Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8

(Me too!)

Dave

5a.

Can someone explain this?

Posted by: "Robert" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:20 am (PDT)



I am at a location where I have a late 2008 MBP, a really old PC, and a netbook hackintosh. The MBP has a 5400 rpm 1TB Sata HD, the really old PC has a 1 TB 5400 PATA drive, and the netbook has a 1 TB 5200 rpm Sata HD.

Whenever I open a folder with a large number of items on my MBP (such as my App folder), there is a noticeable lag before the files are displayed on the screen. Even the hackintosh netbook opens both OS X and Windows files faster. The old PC, running XP, is unbelievably fast. Note that Finder appears instantly, it just takes some time to populate the files window in Finder.

MS programs, running on OS X on the MBP, open very slow compared to a Windows PC. As an example, Excel opens almost instantly on Windows, but takes a good 10 seconds on OS X by the time the initial "template" screen is loaded.

Other OS X programs open quicker on the hackintosh (2 GB RAM) compared to my MBP (2, 4 or 8 GB RAM, makes no difference).

Even when the MBP was new and had the original 2 GB RAM and 250 GB Apple HD, it felt slower than my netbook hackintosh.

Something must be wrong, I just can't figure it out. Any ideas? This has bugged me for three years!

This only seems to be a problem when opening a program or Finder. The MBP easily beats the other machines when mashing through calculations. Perhaps the MBP is looking / waiting for something on the network, although there is nothing there?

Thanks,
Bob

5b.

Re: Can someone explain this?

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:26 pm (PDT)



"Slower" and "faster" are my least favorite diagnostic symptoms. ;) Your comparison eliminates only the hardware itself, which I can mostly eliminate by specs in the first place. Failing hardware is rarely a a slowdown. Crash, yes. Slow, no.

However, do check Disk Utility and look at the "Smart Drive" status. Early failure COULD be slowing you down.

Other causes for slowness:

Background apps, especially anything that might want to be indexing (search apps), scanning (anti-malware), or acting as a finder add-on (Default folder X), but frankly any background app can cause a slowdown. Check this by booting in Safe Mode or simply skipping extensions (hold shift I think).

Overfull hard drive. If you are below 5% freespace you will start to see slowdown. Get too full and you will grind to a halt.

Basic file system or caching corruption. Run fix permissions and repair disk from a boot disk. Force run ALL OSX "maintenance" routines. You can do this with third parties like Onyx, or from the command line. Look it up.

Comparing apples to oranges. OSX versions of MS apps are not the same as the Windows versions. Not even close. Why would MS want Mac versions to run as well as Windows versions. In any case, they don't. In addition, not all folders of files are the same. A folder with 10,000 files takes more than 10x as long to load as one with 1,000 files. There are "overload" points. In addition, folders with tiny files may take much longer than folders with large files. Folders that have media files will take much longer than folders with generic files because of the custom icons that have to be built. And frankly, OSX is simply slower to show file lists. I don't know why exactly, but it is. Resource forks mostly, I guess. And the specific format of your drive and the specific version of the OS will complicate this comparison on all systems. For instance, is your hackintosh using HFS+ or FAT32 or NTFS or ExFAT? They all have slightly different performance characteristics.

And journaling. On or off. Should be on on your MBP system drive. Probably not on your hackintosh and certainly not on the PC. Journaling slows you down slightly. However, don't turn it of on your system drive.

Corrupt or over complicated system installation. If you have never done a full, fresh OS install and have upgraded the OS multiple times, or installed a lot of complicated apps, there may be something bad about your setup. You might consider doing a full, fresh install. Yes, this is a big deal. Try everything else you can think of first. However, I guarantee it will make the system noticeably faster!

I'm sure I'm only scratching the surface. My leading contenders are a background app or corruption in file system caching, particularly icon caches. I think I have things in order of priority above.

Cheers,
tod

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Robert wrote:

> I am at a location where I have a late 2008 MBP, a really old PC, and a netbook hackintosh. The MBP has a 5400 rpm 1TB Sata HD, the really old PC has a 1 TB 5400 PATA drive, and the netbook has a 1 TB 5200 rpm Sata HD.
>
> Whenever I open a folder with a large number of items on my MBP (such as my App folder), there is a noticeable lag before the files are displayed on the screen. Even the hackintosh netbook opens both OS X and Windows files faster. The old PC, running XP, is unbelievably fast. Note that Finder appears instantly, it just takes some time to populate the files window in Finder.
>
> MS programs, running on OS X on the MBP, open very slow compared to a Windows PC. As an example, Excel opens almost instantly on Windows, but takes a good 10 seconds on OS X by the time the initial "template" screen is loaded.
>
> Other OS X programs open quicker on the hackintosh (2 GB RAM) compared to my MBP (2, 4 or 8 GB RAM, makes no difference).
>
> Even when the MBP was new and had the original 2 GB RAM and 250 GB Apple HD, it felt slower than my netbook hackintosh.
>
> Something must be wrong, I just can't figure it out. Any ideas? This has bugged me for three years!
>
> This only seems to be a problem when opening a program or Finder. The MBP easily beats the other machines when mashing through calculations. Perhaps the MBP is looking / waiting for something on the network, although there is nothing there?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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6a.

Printer support on new Macbook Pro

Posted by: "Bill Morton" billmorton999@gmail.com   redpup99

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:34 am (PDT)



I have a new MacBook Pro running Lion 10.6. I added a networked Canon
Pixma IP5000 printer which was networked and on another Apple G5, running
10.4 OSX. That works fine.

I then tried to add another Canon Pixma IP5000 directly to the Macbook on
one of the USB ports. When connected, it starts searching for a driver on
the internet. And it fails to find one.

My question is this--I think there are actually two locations for drivers,
one that is automatically searched, and another that has older drivers
available but is not automatically searched. I can't remember the URL for
the 2nd one. Can anyone help?

PS: Canon support does not have a driver for OSX as far as I can see.

Thanks in advance

Bill

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6b.

Re: Printer support on new Macbook Pro

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:47 am (PDT)



Bill Morton wrote:

[...]

> PS: Canon support does not have a driver for OSX as far as I can see.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Bill

Hi Bill:

I use a Canon PIXMA iP3000 printer and have an iMac working with OSX
10.6.8. Works just fine.

keith whaley

6c.

Re: Printer support on new Macbook Pro

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:24 pm (PDT)



Howdy.

Bill, Canon does have printer drivers for Mac OS X for the IP5000 but
does not have printer drivers for Mac OS X 10.7 Lion (did you mean 10.6
Snow Leopard or 10.7 Lion?).

Your IP5000 may be old enough that Canon will not be making a Mac OS X
10.7 Lion compatible printer driver for it.

It is just barely possible that you could make it print via the CUPS
web site.

<http://www.cups.org/index.php>

Read some of the info and introduction for users here. Then try:

<http://127.0.0.1:631/printers>

This web page may automatically see one or more of the printers that
you have connected and turned on. You may be able to add and print to
the Canon IP5000. Under the Administration tab on this web page there
is an Add Printer button. You will probably need to establish an
account/password first.

I checked a 3rd party printer driver site and there was no driver
listed for the IP5000 for either Windows or Macintosh.

You may be able to print to the IP5000 via print sharing if the printer
is connected to an older Macintosh such as the G5.

Good luck.

Denver Dan

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:34:38 -0700, Bill Morton wrote:
> I have a new MacBook Pro running Lion 10.6. I added a networked Canon
> Pixma IP5000 printer which was networked and on another Apple G5, running
> 10.4 OSX. That works fine.
>
> I then tried to add another Canon Pixma IP5000 directly to the Macbook on
> one of the USB ports. When connected, it starts searching for a driver on
> the internet. And it fails to find one.
>
> My question is this--I think there are actually two locations for drivers,
> one that is automatically searched, and another that has older drivers
> available but is not automatically searched. I can't remember the URL for
> the 2nd one. Can anyone help?
>
> PS: Canon support does not have a driver for OSX as far as I can see.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Bill

7a.

Re: Another HD Deal

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:51 am (PDT)



According to geeks.com's tech support, these drive enclosures use
either Western Digital or Hitachi HD mechanisms. Depending on which
it ships with, this is either a bad deal or a great one. ;-)

> > The correct acronym foe a hard drive is "HDD".
>[psmith]

Which was in common use first...?

In my experience, hi-def is the way to differentiate from hard disks.

(A small quibble of my own: an acronym is a word that is an
abbreviation that is also pronounceable, such as "RADAR". "HDD" is
not pronounceable as a word, and as such is not an acronym. It is an
abbreviation.)

Dave

-=-=-=-

>I'm pretty much behind the times as far as this goes. The acronym
>was not the same before the advent of High Definition.
>
>Harry
>
>
>On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, paul smith wrote:
>
> > Minor quibble - when you use the acronym "HD", you lead people to
>believe that you are referring to "High Definition".
> > The correct acronym foe a hard drive is "HDD".
>
>Harry Flaxman

7b.

Re: Another HD Deal

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:29 pm (PDT)




On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> I know that it's a refurb, but it's a triple-interface 2TB external
> hard drive for $100! I might take a chance! Thought I'd pass it along:
>
> <http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=0G00203-NDW-PB-
> R&utm_source=geekmail&utm_medium=daily_html&utm_content=Main1&utm_camp
> aign=0G002032_13oct11>
>
> or
>
> http://bit.ly/nj8Qya
>
> It's a G-Force drive as well.

Before anyone purchases a G-Drive, they may want to have a look at
the user reviews for G-Drives on Amazon:
http://is.gd/JYs5oH

G-Drives have a horrible reputation for failing controllers.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

7c.

Re: Another HD Deal

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:30 pm (PDT)




> (A small quibble of my own: an acronym is a word that is an abbreviation that is also pronounceable, such as "RADAR". "HDD" is not pronounceable as a word, and as such is not an acronym. It is an abbreviation.)
> Dave

I think the correct term is "an initialism".

"HDD" could also be termed " a TLA".

7d.

Re: Another HD Deal

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:31 pm (PDT)



Thanks for pointing that out Randy. I did hold off on that as I'm waiting for some grant monies to arrive and it hasn't yet! :)

Oh well.

Harry

On Oct 13, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

>
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> I know that it's a refurb, but it's a triple-interface 2TB external
>> hard drive for $100! I might take a chance! Thought I'd pass it along:
>>
>> <http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=0G00203-NDW-PB-
>> R&utm_source=geekmail&utm_medium=daily_html&utm_content=Main1&utm_camp
>> aign=0G002032_13oct11>
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://bit.ly/nj8Qya
>>
>> It's a G-Force drive as well.
>
> Before anyone purchases a G-Drive, they may want to have a look at
> the user reviews for G-Drives on Amazon:
> http://is.gd/JYs5oH
>
> G-Drives have a horrible reputation for failing controllers.
>
> ____________

______________________
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

8.

Pogue's Look At iCloud

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:58 am (PDT)

9.

Apple Taking Thanksgiving Week Off

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:02 pm (PDT)



According to Cult Of Mac, Tim Cook has given all Apple employees. This memo was circulated to all corporate employees:

The email from MacGeneration notes:

Team,

I consider it an honor to come to work every day alongside the most innovative and most dedicated people on earth. This is an extraordinary time to be at Apple, and it's all made possible by your incredible efforts.

We've had a record-setting year so far and we're heading into the holidays with the strongest product lineup in our history. Customers are absolutely in love with the iPad 2, and the amazing new iPhone 4S is off to the best start of any iPhone we've ever made. The Mac is soaring to new heights with OS X Lion, and on the eve of its 10th birthday, the iPod is still the world's most popular music player.

In recognition of the hard work you've put in this year, we're going to take some extra time off for Thanksgiving. We will shut down with pay on November 21, 22 and 23 so our teams can spend the entire week with their families and friends.

Of course, Retail and some other groups will need to work that week so we can continue to serve our customers. If you're in one of these groups, please check with your manager about taking time off at a later date. Our international teams will schedule their three-day shutdowns this quarter at a time that's best for them. Details will be available on AppleWeb.

I hope everyone enjoys this much deserved break.

Tim

Good for Tim. Apple's had an amazing and stressful and sad year. Time for a breather. Now if only Leander'd follow Cook's lead.

Now, I'm kinda sure that retail employees won't get this time. Never saw that happen in the retail world, but here's hoping for them!

Harry

______________________
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

10a.

Copying networked files

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:07 pm (PDT)



I want to do a "safety backup" in case something happens while I'm
not in possession of my external backups (long story).

I connected to a Mac on my LAN (as the one and only registered user)
and dragged the 3 folders on that Mac's HD to my HD. What shows up
are 3 aliases of these folders.

How can I get the contents of those folders copied using Finder?

Thanks,
Dave

10b.

Re: Copying networked files

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:38 pm (PDT)



Something is not right about my understanding. Need more details. I know that sound silly, but I do this, literally ever day on many machines.

Cheers,
tod

On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, DaveC wrote:

> I want to do a "safety backup" in case something happens while I'm
> not in possession of my external backups (long story).
>
> I connected to a Mac on my LAN (as the one and only registered user)
> and dragged the 3 folders on that Mac's HD to my HD. What shows up
> are 3 aliases of these folders.
>
> How can I get the contents of those folders copied using Finder?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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11a.

Lion 10.7.2 upgrade

Posted by: "Jim Smith" jas1931@gmail.com   jimmacsmith

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:36 pm (PDT)



With all the excitement about IOS 5, there has not been any mention of Lion update.

I have a new 27in iMac i7 with factory installed Lion. I order it the day Lion was available.

File opening and saving has been for the pits. It seamed to have taken forever to open a file. Like click on a newly created screen dump it would take Preview 20 to 30 seconds to open and display, even if Preview was running.

Lion 10.7.2 seamed to have fixed what ever was wrong.

Jim Smith
jas1931@gmail.com
http://www.rvcarelogbook.com
RVCare Log Book - Maintenance Data Base

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11b.

Re: Lion 10.7.2 upgrade

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:38 pm (PDT)



Curious, did you order the 256gb SSD from Apple with yours? I'm considering this model. Might be better off just buying one separately from OWC and dealing with the install myself.

I'm looking, seriously at this point--after all, my iMac is a year old next month. Time to step up! :)

Harry

On Oct 13, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Jim Smith wrote:

> With all the excitement about IOS 5, there has not been any mention of Lion update.
>
> I have a new 27in iMac i7 with factory installed Lion. I order it the day Lion was available.
>
> File opening and saving has been for the pits. It seamed to have taken forever to open a file. Like click on a newly created screen dump it would take Preview 20 to 30 seconds to open and display, even if Preview was running.
>
> Lion 10.7.2 seamed to have fixed what ever was wrong.
>
> Jim Smith
> jas1931@gmail.com
> http://www.rvcarelogbook.com
> RVCare Log Book - Maintenance Data Base

______________________
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

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