11/10/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8544

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1a.

Re: Problems with Internet Connection

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 9, 2011 5:40 pm (PST)



Yup, I use OpenDNS instead of my ISPs. My ISPs servers have gone down numerous times over the years and I've always been grateful for the OpenDNS folks!

Harry

On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:13 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

> On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> Dynamic Name Server = DNS
>
> Yea, and if the ones from your ISP don't work, try some free public ones that might work?
>
> 8/8/8/8
> 208.67.222.222
> 208.67.222.2220
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> (In Snow Leopard I installed them in Apple menu/System Preferences/Network/Advanced/DNS/
>
> I sued the "plus" symbol in the lower left of the dialog to add these DAN servers.
>
> Daly

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Re: Problems with Internet Connection

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Wed Nov 9, 2011 5:48 pm (PST)



Not to be nit-picky, but DNS = Domain Name System.

Beat you to it, Jim.

-Bob

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> On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
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> > Dynamic Name Server = DNS
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Re: Problems with Internet Connection

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 9, 2011 5:57 pm (PST)



Ahem….System should be Server. Check out Wikipedia as well as other encyclopedic references.

When the net came about, we called them Dynamic.

Harry

On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Cook wrote:

> Not to be nit-picky, but DNS = Domain Name System.
>
> Beat you to it, Jim.
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> -Bob
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> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
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>> On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
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>>> Dynamic Name Server = DNS
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Re: Problems with Internet Connection

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:09 pm (PST)



Sorry Harry, but that is not correct anymore. That is why we have DNS
Servers (Root, Branch, Leaf, etc). Please check your Wikipedia link
again.

Seriously, it is easy to get confused with all the acronyms AND that
some of them keep changing!

-Bob

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ahem….System should be Server.  Check out Wikipedia as well as other encyclopedic references.
>
> When the net came about, we called them Dynamic.
>
> Harry
>
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> On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
>> Not to be nit-picky, but DNS = Domain Name System.
>>
>> Beat you to it, Jim.
>>
>> -Bob
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>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
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>>> **
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>>> On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
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>>>> Dynamic Name Server = DNS
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Re: Problems with Internet Connection

Posted by: "Forrest Leedy" f.leedy@comcast.net   forrkazu

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:13 pm (PST)



Like many acronyms, so many have multiple meanings. Check out www.acronymfinder.com. It all depends in what context it is used in. It seems like all of these have some credence though.

Forrest

On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Ahemâˆ'.System should be Server. Check out Wikipedia as well as other encyclopedic references.
>
> When the net came about, we called them Dynamic.
>
> Harry
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Cook wrote:
>
>> Not to be nit-picky, but DNS = Domain Name System.
>>
>> Beat you to it, Jim.
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Daly Jessup <jessup@san.rr.com> wrote:
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>>> **
>>>
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>>> On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
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>>>> Dynamic Name Server = DNS
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2a.

Re: Lion / Bootcamp??

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Nov 9, 2011 5:50 pm (PST)



I had originally installed Lion on a clone on an external drive. I have since upgraded the internal drive to Lion. I have had some problems with XP, but it may have been from a Windows update as it seems to have resolved itself.

I think that you can not do a new install of XP under Lion, so I have a clone of the BootCamp partition with XP installed.

Brent

On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Kim VanderLaan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I hope someone here might have a definitive answer for me. I have yet to upgrade to Lion. One of the things holding me back is the fear that I might lose my Boot Camp partition.
>
> I am currently running Windows XP service pack 2 on my Boot Camp partition. I only use this to play one particular game (that no longer updates), but I really do not want to lose it.
>
> From what I have read, Windows XP is no longer supported with the version of Boot Camp that comes with Lion. Is it possible to install Lion over Snow Leopard, while leaving the current Boot Camp partition alone so it still works the way it does now?
>
> My game works fine under this version of Windows and I don't know how well it will work with a different / newer version (I know some people had trouble when they upgraded) and I really don't want to have to buy another Windows disk.
>
> Can anyone give me a definitive answer?
>
> Thank you!!
>
> Kim
>
> *****************************
> Since any reasonable person would choose a Mac over a PC, Apple's market share does provide us with an accurate reading of the percentage of reasonable people in our society.
> -- Roger Ebert

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3.1.

Re: Swollen battery in MacBook/update

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Nov 9, 2011 5:55 pm (PST)



That's nice, but Apple still recommends fully discharging the battery about once a month. If you search Apple Support's Knowledge Base, you will find several current articles on this.

It is not remove a memory, but to recalibrate the battery sensing software.

Brent

On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Ardell Faul wrote:

> The technique of completely discharging a battery periodically applies
> only to Nickle Cadmium batteries. There is an issue with the structure
> of the Ni Cad molecules in that they loose their "memory" after a
> while. Completely discharging them "resets" their capacity to hold a
> charge and is needed periodically.
>
> Modern laptop batteries are usually Lithium Ion, a whole different
> chemical structure. If you discharge a Li Ion battery, all you are
> doing is shortening its life by one cycle. Ideally, if you want maximum
> life from a Li Ion battery, you should charge it to about 60%, remove it
> from the unit, and store it in a cool place.
>
> But in the real world, I find it best to just keep them charged up all
> the time. There is a circuit inside each battery to control the current
> flow, and when they get fully charged, they just don't accept any more
> charge current.
>
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> ardell@icehouse.net
> 509-891-5188

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3.2.

Re: Swollen battery in MacBook/update

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:10 pm (PST)




On Nov 9, 2011, at 5:54 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:

> That's nice, but Apple still recommends fully discharging the
> battery about once a month. If you search Apple Support's Knowledge
> Base, you will find several current articles on this.
>
> It is not remove a memory, but to recalibrate the battery sensing
> software.

Exactly.

But note that Apple doesn't recommend regularly discharging and fully
re-charging the most recent laptops that have non-user replaceable
batteries:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1490

"Portables with built-in batteries
"Current Apple portable computer batteries are pre-calibrated and do
not require the calibration procedure outlined in this article."

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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3.3.

Re: Swollen battery in MacBook/update

Posted by: "Ardell Faul" ardell@icehouse.net   computer_monitor_service_company

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:38 pm (PST)



OK. that makes sense as far as the reason, but it still shortens the
life of the battery needlessly. I have never seen a need to recalibrate
a battery on a monthly basis in ANY laptop. Once when you first install
the battery makes sense, but discharging your battery every single month
is not a productive habit.

Ardell Faul
Computer Monitor Service Inc.
Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
10816 E. Mission Ave.,
Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
ardell@icehouse.net
509-891-5188

On 11/9/2011 5:54 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> That's nice, but Apple still recommends fully discharging the battery
> about once a month. If you search Apple Support's Knowledge Base, you
> will find several current articles on this.
>
> It is not remove a memory, but to recalibrate the battery sensing
> software.
>
> Brent
>
> On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Ardell Faul wrote:
>
> > The technique of completely discharging a battery periodically applies
> > only to Nickle Cadmium batteries. There is an issue with the structure
> > of the Ni Cad molecules in that they loose their "memory" after a
> > while. Completely discharging them "resets" their capacity to hold a
> > charge and is needed periodically.
> >
> > Modern laptop batteries are usually Lithium Ion, a whole different
> > chemical structure. If you discharge a Li Ion battery, all you are
> > doing is shortening its life by one cycle. Ideally, if you want maximum
> > life from a Li Ion battery, you should charge it to about 60%,
> remove it
> > from the unit, and store it in a cool place.
> >
> > But in the real world, I find it best to just keep them charged up all
> > the time. There is a circuit inside each battery to control the current
> > flow, and when they get fully charged, they just don't accept any more
> > charge current.
> >
> > Ardell Faul
> > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> > ardell@icehouse.net <mailto:ardell%40icehouse.net>
> > 509-891-5188
>
>

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3.4.

Re: Swollen battery in MacBook/update

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:55 pm (PST)



That is a confusing article. It starts with:

"Summary

You can calibrate your iBook, PowerBook, MacBook, or MacBook Pro computer's lithium-ion battery for best performance."

But then says,

"Portables with built-in batteries

Current Apple portable computer batteries are pre-calibrated and do not require the calibration procedure outlined in this article. These computers use batteries that should be replaced only by an Apple Authorized Service Provider."

and then lists models from early to late 2009 and later.

The OP stated he had an out of AppleCare MacBook, so it is 2008, so that part of the article should not apply to him.

But it is good to know that Apple has changed their stand on that issue in August of this year. Thanks for pointing that out. I knew Randy would come up a list of articles.

The Genius at my local Apple Store did not realize that, when they replaced my battery on a early 2008 MBP. In fact, two of them told me to do the monthly full discharge. I was way under the suggest number of recharge cycles before the battery should hold less of a charge, even after recalibrating.

Brent

On Nov 9, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

>
> On Nov 9, 2011, at 5:54 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> > That's nice, but Apple still recommends fully discharging the
> > battery about once a month. If you search Apple Support's Knowledge
> > Base, you will find several current articles on this.
> >
> > It is not remove a memory, but to recalibrate the battery sensing
> > software.
>
> Exactly.
>
> But note that Apple doesn't recommend regularly discharging and fully
> re-charging the most recent laptops that have non-user replaceable
> batteries:
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1490
>
> "Portables with built-in batteries
> "Current Apple portable computer batteries are pre-calibrated and do
> not require the calibration procedure outlined in this article."

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3.5.

Re: Swollen battery in MacBook/update

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Nov 9, 2011 7:06 pm (PST)



I will say that I find it affect the batteries less as the technology move forward.

And the article, that Randy quoted sure confuses the issue, by saying yes and no.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1490

The date of that article is August 2011, about the time I was told my two Apple Genius to fully discharge and recalibrate my replacement battery, monthly.

Brent

On Nov 9, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Ardell Faul wrote:

> OK. that makes sense as far as the reason, but it still shortens the
> life of the battery needlessly. I have never seen a need to recalibrate
> a battery on a monthly basis in ANY laptop. Once when you first install
> the battery makes sense, but discharging your battery every single month
> is not a productive habit.
>
> Ardell Faul
> Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> ardell@icehouse.net
> 509-891-5188
>
> On 11/9/2011 5:54 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
> >
> > That's nice, but Apple still recommends fully discharging the battery
> > about once a month. If you search Apple Support's Knowledge Base, you
> > will find several current articles on this.
> >
> > It is not remove a memory, but to recalibrate the battery sensing
> > software.
> >
> > Brent
> >
> > On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Ardell Faul wrote:
> >
> > > The technique of completely discharging a battery periodically applies
> > > only to Nickle Cadmium batteries. There is an issue with the structure
> > > of the Ni Cad molecules in that they loose their "memory" after a
> > > while. Completely discharging them "resets" their capacity to hold a
> > > charge and is needed periodically.
> > >
> > > Modern laptop batteries are usually Lithium Ion, a whole different
> > > chemical structure. If you discharge a Li Ion battery, all you are
> > > doing is shortening its life by one cycle. Ideally, if you want maximum
> > > life from a Li Ion battery, you should charge it to about 60%,
> > remove it
> > > from the unit, and store it in a cool place.
> > >
> > > But in the real world, I find it best to just keep them charged up all
> > > the time. There is a circuit inside each battery to control the current
> > > flow, and when they get fully charged, they just don't accept any more
> > > charge current.
> > >
> > > Ardell Faul
> > > Computer Monitor Service Inc.
> > > Ardell's Laptop and PC Repair
> > > 10816 E. Mission Ave.,
> > > Spokane Valley, Wa. 99206
> > > ardell@icehouse.net <mailto:ardell%40icehouse.net>
> > > 509-891-5188
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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3.6.

Re: Swollen battery in MacBook/update

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Nov 9, 2011 8:09 pm (PST)



> OK. that makes sense as far as the reason, but it still shortens the life of the battery needlessly.

I believe Apple said the battery in my Macbook Pro is expected to be good for something like 400 full cycles.

My normal use is as a desktop computer, connected to AC power, so I also have a reminder to, once a month, unplug it, let it discharge as I use it, then plug it back in again.

I expect this will shorted the life of the battery, perhaps, but since 400 full cycles translates to a little over 33 years, I'm not going to worry about it too much.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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4a.

Re: Hogwasher problem

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:03 pm (PST)



I don't use HW, but if it opens at all in Lion, then it is not a Lion compatibility issue.

Check your prefs, and check with the developer for any fixes.

Brent

On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:55 AM, DaveC wrote:

> Anybody using HW under Lion?
>
> When I click with the left mouse button, I get the contextual menu that
> normally (and still does) comes up when clicking the right button or
> Control-click (left button).
>
> Anybody else have this experience? I'd like to know if this is just an issue
> of a Lion-incompatible app, or if there's a fix.

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5a.

Re: faster DNS 21% via namebench

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:06 pm (PST)




On Nov 9, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Doug Yelmen wrote:

> thanks, Randy. i will try this.

At the same time, for maximum effect, you may want to update Flash,
Air, and Flip4Mac.

And try moving this file to the trash:
[hard drive icon] --> Users folder --> [your user name] --> Library --
> Preferences --> com.apple.quicktime.plugin.preferences.plist

You might be shocked by how fast your browsing is after doing all that.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
___________________________________________

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6a.

Re: iPhone 4S Case

Posted by: "Reggie" wevvie@yahoo.com   wevvie

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:08 pm (PST)



I got a clear acrylic case for my iphone 4 here.  Came with a screen protector as well...and for under $6.  
http://stores.ebay.com/Wydan-Technologies_W0QQ_fsubZ2658402018

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Re: iPhone 4S Case

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Nov 9, 2011 7:46 pm (PST)



> I purchased a case for my new iPhone 4S online, but when I got the phone and put the new case on, I found it bulky and it make the phone look more like a video game than the sleek new iPhone that was hidden within. Now I'm back looking for something that will give modest protection without the bulk.

I'm delighted with the $2 black silicone rubber one I found on Amazon.

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7a.

Notice of moderation policy change

Posted by: "mmungermtl" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:09 pm (PST)



Hi everyone,

A few years back, there was a debate on the Mac Support Central group about its moderation policy. After a good discussion, it was decided that new members would enter the group with moderated status, which would be changed once they would make at least one productive post. This would prevent anyone from getting in and posting spam instantly.

However... I made it a condition that the team of moderators would have to give people full posting rights as soon as they would contribute to the group. The principle is to give people freedom to post, so that they can get help as soon as they need it, without barriers. An underlying idea is that we are NOT going to turn into a fully moderated group.

With such principles in mind, the moderation policy failed. We still have a long backlog of members who are under moderation despite everything stated above.

Part of the blame goes to me for not always stepping in, day in and day out, to change the status of people. Part of the blame goes to my fellow moderators, who approve messages from new members without changing their posting rights.

But don't spend too much time thinking about the above paragraph. Starting from now, all new members will automatically have the right to post to Mac Support Central, without moderation. If they post spam, they will be removed quickly.

Michel (Group owner)

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Re: Notice of moderation policy change

Posted by: "Budd" n7eoj@yahoo.com   n7eoj

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:25 pm (PST)





 
"It is easier to move forward when everyone stops moving sideways." - Considerations for Digital Age Leaders

________________________________
From: mmungermtl <michel@macsupportcentral.com>
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 7:09 PM
Subject: [macsupport] Notice of moderation policy change

 
Hi everyone,

A few years back, there was a debate on the Mac Support Central group about its moderation policy. After a good discussion, it was decided that new members would enter the group with moderated status, which would be changed once they would make at least one productive post. This would prevent anyone from getting in and posting spam instantly.

However... I made it a condition that the team of moderators would have to give people full posting rights as soon as they would contribute to the group. The principle is to give people freedom to post, so that they can get help as soon as they need it, without barriers. An underlying idea is that we are NOT going to turn into a fully moderated group.

With such principles in mind, the moderation policy failed. We still have a long backlog of members who are under moderation despite everything stated above.

Part of the blame goes to me for not always stepping in, day in and day out, to change the status of people. Part of the blame goes to my fellow moderators, who approve messages from new members without changing their posting rights.

But don't spend too much time thinking about the above paragraph. Starting from now, all new members will automatically have the right to post to Mac Support Central, without moderation. If they post spam, they will be removed quickly.

Michel (Group owner)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: Notice of moderation policy change

Posted by: "Kimmy" kimmysy@gmail.com   kim_soo_kim

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:53 pm (PST)



Great change Michel, this is exactly what I do with a group I moderate and
find it works well.

Kimmy

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:09 PM, mmungermtl <michel@macsupportcentral.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> A few years back, there was a debate on the Mac Support Central group
> about its moderation policy. After a good discussion, it was decided that
> new members would enter the group with moderated status, which would be
> changed once they would make at least one productive post. This would
> prevent anyone from getting in and posting spam instantly.
>
> However... I made it a condition that the team of moderators would have to
> give people full posting rights as soon as they would contribute to the
> group. The principle is to give people freedom to post, so that they can
> get help as soon as they need it, without barriers. An underlying idea is
> that we are NOT going to turn into a fully moderated group.
>
> With such principles in mind, the moderation policy failed. We still have
> a long backlog of members who are under moderation despite everything
> stated above.
>
> Part of the blame goes to me for not always stepping in, day in and day
> out, to change the status of people. Part of the blame goes to my fellow
> moderators, who approve messages from new members without changing their
> posting rights.
>
> But don't spend too much time thinking about the above paragraph. Starting
> from now, all new members will automatically have the right to post to Mac
> Support Central, without moderation. If they post spam, they will be
> removed quickly.
>
> Michel (Group owner)
>
>
>

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Re: Notice of moderation policy change

Posted by: "michael mozzarella" tmozzarella@yahoo.ca   tmozzarella

Wed Nov 9, 2011 7:04 pm (PST)



bravo. a much more sensible way to do things imo.

The best rule of friendship is to keep your heart a little softer than your head. 

--- On Wed, 11/9/11, mmungermtl <michel@macsupportcentral.com> wrote:

From: mmungermtl <michel@macsupportcentral.com>
Subject: [macsupport] Notice of moderation policy change
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, November 9, 2011, 9:09 PM

 

Hi everyone,

A few years back, there was a debate on the Mac Support Central group about its moderation policy. After a good discussion, it was decided that new members would enter the group with moderated status, which would be changed once they would make at least one productive post. This would prevent anyone from getting in and posting spam instantly.

However... I made it a condition that the team of moderators would have to give people full posting rights as soon as they would contribute to the group. The principle is to give people freedom to post, so that they can get help as soon as they need it, without barriers. An underlying idea is that we are NOT going to turn into a fully moderated group.

With such principles in mind, the moderation policy failed. We still have a long backlog of members who are under moderation despite everything stated above.

Part of the blame goes to me for not always stepping in, day in and day out, to change the status of people. Part of the blame goes to my fellow moderators, who approve messages from new members without changing their posting rights.

But don't spend too much time thinking about the above paragraph. Starting from now, all new members will automatically have the right to post to Mac Support Central, without moderation. If they post spam, they will be removed quickly.

Michel (Group owner)

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Re: Notice of moderation policy change

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Nov 9, 2011 8:06 pm (PST)



While I understand the decision, I am sincerely disappointed.

90% or more of the spam I receive can be traced back to two of the three yahoo group lists that I belong to, but not to MacSupport. Some that started in October is some of the most disgusting I have ever received.

After 11 years, I may finally have to abandon this user name.

Brent

On Nov 9, 2011, at 6:09 PM, mmungermtl wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> A few years back, there was a debate on the Mac Support Central group about its moderation policy. After a good discussion, it was decided that new members would enter the group with moderated status, which would be changed once they would make at least one productive post. This would prevent anyone from getting in and posting spam instantly.
>
> However... I made it a condition that the team of moderators would have to give people full posting rights as soon as they would contribute to the group. The principle is to give people freedom to post, so that they can get help as soon as they need it, without barriers. An underlying idea is that we are NOT going to turn into a fully moderated group.
>
> With such principles in mind, the moderation policy failed. We still have a long backlog of members who are under moderation despite everything stated above.
>
> Part of the blame goes to me for not always stepping in, day in and day out, to change the status of people. Part of the blame goes to my fellow moderators, who approve messages from new members without changing their posting rights.
>
> But don't spend too much time thinking about the above paragraph. Starting from now, all new members will automatically have the right to post to Mac Support Central, without moderation. If they post spam, they will be removed quickly.
>
> Michel (Group owner)
>
>

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Re: Notice of moderation policy change

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:21 am (PST)



I'm disappointed too. The policy was introduced for a reason, and I don't
understand why we would have a backlog.

But anyway, let's see how this works; we can always go back if we need to.

Otto

On 10 November 2011 04:06, N.A. Nada <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

> While I understand the decision, I am sincerely disappointed.
>
> 90% or more of the spam I receive can be traced back to two of the three
> yahoo group lists that I belong to, but not to MacSupport. Some that
> started in October is some of the most disgusting I have ever received.
>
> After 11 years, I may finally have to abandon this user name.
>

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Re: Hungarian Lion ???

Posted by: "Oneal Neumann" wardell.h.s@gmail.com   newalander

Wed Nov 9, 2011 6:14 pm (PST)




On 2011 November 8 at 22:27, Barry Austern wrote:

>I understand that there is a dictionary for
>Hungarian, Barry, but (as yet) there is no
>spellcheck in Hungarian. I presume that
>spellchecks exist in Lion (and other OSs) for
>certain languages. For now, I only use
>spellcheck in English.

No idea if it works there, but have you tried the
wonderful shareware program Spell Catcher? It is
by Rainmaker Research Inc. Don't know if has a
Magyar version, but if anyone did they might.

Barry Austern

Thanx for the tip, Barry.
I'll give it a looksee. Oneal

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Internet Connection Problem Fixed

Posted by: "George Barker" lynxster@ihug.com.au   four46

Wed Nov 9, 2011 7:11 pm (PST)



Thanks to those who made suggestions about DNS, and those who
provided a stimulating conversation around nomenclature ;-)

As often seems to be the case the solution (this time at least) was
something simple and right out of left field - Turn On Airport.

As I only turn it on when I want to send music to my speakers in
another room I failed to see how this could have any effect upon my
ADSL modem's Internet connection.

As the helpful Apple guy explained it turning on Airport must have
cleaned out a few blocked pipes somewhere (metaphorically speaking)
in my network's innards and all seems to be back to normal.

regards
George

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Re: Screen Calibration

Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com   chloe898

Wed Nov 9, 2011 8:33 pm (PST)



I use Spyder for my 24 inch mac display.

Jeannie

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Kathy Wheeler <kwheeler23@comcast.net>wrote:

> I am brand new to Macs. I just bought a 27" iMac and they told me at the
> Apple store not to use my "Spyder" to calibrate my screen. They showed me
> in Preferences, Displays, Color, the tool to use to calibrate. Is it
> difficult and is that what you photographers use?
>
> I use WHCC as my print house.
>
> TIA,
> Kathy
>
>
>
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> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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