12/01/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8594

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Forcing a sorted list with a character From: Daly Jessup
1b.
Re: Forcing a sorted list with a character From: Tod Hopkins
1c.
Re: Forcing a sorted list with a character From: Christopher Collins
2a.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: OBrien
2b.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: OBrien
2c.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: Otto Nikolaus
2d.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: Tod Hopkins
2e.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: Tod Hopkins
2f.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: Tod Hopkins
2g.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: Keith Whaley
2h.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: Arjun Singhal
2i.
Re: Keeping up with Malware From: Harry Flaxman
3a.
Apple Customer Relations - Never Ending Loop From: Arjun Singhal
3b.
Re: Apple Customer Relations - Never Ending Loop From: Island Center for the Arts
4.
Problem with keywords in iPhoto 11 From: harpangel36
5a.
Imac 27 2011 and MacMini mid 2009 From: Tauqir Rana
5b.
Re: Imac 27 2011 and MacMini mid 2009 From: Bill Boulware
5c.
Re: Imac 27 2011 and MacMini mid 2009 From: Harry Flaxman
6a.
Re: Screen Flickering Problem & Customer Relations From: Harry Flaxman
7a.
New file uploaded to macsupportcentral From: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
8a.
Questions on iCloud and Photostream From: Jay Abraham
8b.
Re: Questions on iCloud and Photostream From: Bill Boulware
9a.
save a version From: Lynn Voedisch
9b.
Lion's desktop on top of desktop From: Ken
9c.
Re: save a version From: Hans Rijnbout

Messages

1a.

Re: Forcing a sorted list with a character

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Thu Dec 1, 2011 4:58 am (PST)



Rob wrote:

> At one time, I recall one could sort a list alphabetically in any
> application (or even the Finder) and simply placing a tilde ( ~ ) as
> the first character of the item, force it to the bottom of the list.
>
> I've found that's no longer possible. Having searched the web with
> no luck, I though I'd try the knowledgeable crew here.
>
> Anyone know the character that would force a list item to be sorted after Z?
Well, it's not pretty, but you could start the name with "zz."

Daly

1b.

Re: Forcing a sorted list with a character

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Dec 1, 2011 6:56 am (PST)



I've never liked "~" because this is a character used by the OS's themselves for various temp, hidden, and system files, and thus confusing.

Can't answer your question directly without trial and error, but...

My long practice has been to use "!" to sort to the top and "z" to sort to the bottom. Multiples, as in "!!" or "zz" to sort higher or lower. Has worked for many, many years with every OS and network protocol that I've encountered. It also has an understandable logic to someone who might otherwise wonder why I've used odd characters in my filenames.

Whatever you do, don't use a leading space to force a top sort. Have fought this one for years. Common in my business but can cause serious issues on servers.

Cheers,
tod

On Dec 1, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Rob Frankel wrote:

> Greetings:
>
> At one time, I recall one could sort a list alphabetically in any
> application (or even the Finder) and simply placing a tilde ( ~ ) as
> the first character of the item, force it to the bottom of the list.
>
> I've found that's no longer possible. Having searched the web with
> no luck, I though I'd try the knowledgeable crew here.
>
> Anyone know the character that would force a list item to be sorted after Z?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Rob Frankel, Branding Expert
> Twitter: @brandingexpert http://www.RobFrankel.com
> http://www.PeerMailing.com http://www.i-legions.com
> http://www.FrankelAnderson.com
> Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle it:
> http://www.robfrankelblog.com
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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1c.

Re: Forcing a sorted list with a character

Posted by: "Christopher Collins" maclist@analogdigital.com.au   cjc1959au

Thu Dec 1, 2011 1:59 pm (PST)



Or you can simply use underscores to bring things to the top.

cjc

On 02/12/2011, at 1:56 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> I've never liked "~" because this is a character used by the OS's themselves for various temp, hidden, and system files, and thus confusing.
>
> Can't answer your question directly without trial and error, but...
>
> My long practice has been to use "!" to sort to the top and "z" to sort to the bottom. Multiples, as in "!!" or "zz" to sort higher or lower. Has worked for many, many years with every OS and network protocol that I've encountered. It also has an understandable logic to someone who might otherwise wonder why I've used odd characters in my filenames.
>
> Whatever you do, don't use a leading space to force a top sort. Have fought this one for years. Common in my business but can cause serious issues on servers.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> On Dec 1, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Rob Frankel wrote:
>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> At one time, I recall one could sort a list alphabetically in any
>> application (or even the Finder) and simply placing a tilde ( ~ ) as
>> the first character of the item, force it to the bottom of the list.
>>
>> I've found that's no longer possible. Having searched the web with
>> no luck, I though I'd try the knowledgeable crew here.
>>
>> Anyone know the character that would force a list item to be sorted after Z?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Rob Frankel, Branding Expert
>> Twitter: @brandingexpert http://www.RobFrankel.com
>> http://www.PeerMailing.com http://www.i-legions.com
>> http://www.FrankelAnderson.com
>> Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle it:
>> http://www.robfrankelblog.com
>>
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

2a.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Thu Dec 1, 2011 5:09 am (PST)



On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:04:06 -0800, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> Tod sent you a tiny URL, for your convenience. Is there some reason
> that you can't follow it and get the full URL?

For me...I'm always a little hesitant to click on a tiny URL because I can't see where it's going to take me.

Placing a < at the beginning, and a > at the end (with no space) will usually keep a long URL from breaking.

Like this:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/>

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
2b.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Thu Dec 1, 2011 5:11 am (PST)



On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:31:43 +0000, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> I wondered that too. As it happens, the full URL is very long and would get
> chopped up by Yahoo's mail server anyway, no doubt resulting in someone
> having to provide instructions on how to reassemble it!

Even if it does get mutilated, at least it will indicate where the tiny URL is going to go.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

O'Brien ––– –... .-. .. . -.
2c.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Thu Dec 1, 2011 5:15 am (PST)



2011/12/1 OBrien <bco@hiwaay.net>

>
> For me...I'm always a little hesitant to click on a tiny URL because I
> can't see where it's going to take me.
>
> Placing a < at the beginning, and a > at the end (with no space) will
> usually keep a long URL from breaking.
>
> Like this:
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/macsupportcentral/>
>

I think we can trust regular contributors not to post spam URLs. ;)

< link > often works but there's no guarantee. Let's try the one in
question with
<
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57333083-263/apple-issues-late-xprotect-update-for-flashback-trojan/?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=MacFixIt
>
and without
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57333083-263/apple-issues-late-xprotect-update-for-flashback-trojan/?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=MacFixIt

Otto

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2d.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Dec 1, 2011 6:38 am (PST)



The full URL...

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57333083-263/apple-issues-late-xprotect-update-for-flashback-trojan/?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=MacFixIt

Cheers,
tod

On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> Interesting article on increasing OSX malware threat and Apple's relatively slow pace keeping up with XProtect.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/d883ev3
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tod Hopkins
> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2e.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Dec 1, 2011 6:40 am (PST)



On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> How many of us are downloading pirated software from torrents so that
> we are even exposed to these Trojans?

I think I can safely say that no one on THIS list ever downloads anything questionable. Right?

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2f.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Thu Dec 1, 2011 6:41 am (PST)



On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:09 AM, OBrien wrote:
> I'm always a little hesitant to click on a tiny URL because I can't see where it's going to take me.

I'm sold. Long URL's from now on.

Cheers,
tod

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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2g.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Thu Dec 1, 2011 8:33 am (PST)



Tod Hopkins wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> > How many of us are downloading pirated software from torrents so that
> > we are even exposed to these Trojans?

> I think I can safely say that no one on THIS list ever downloads
> anything questionable. Right?
>
> Cheers,
> tod

That's a good question, Tod. Who knows. Is clicking on a URL to see
where it leads actually downloading something? I suppose so.

Does Randy's use of the word "torrents" without a capital refer to
Torrenz or the search engine so called?
I've never used it, so I had to Google it.

keith

2h.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Thu Dec 1, 2011 9:36 am (PST)



Torrents is a peer-to-peer sharing platform that people can use to seed and download data. This can be both legitimate, illegal or free software. Though, I do not vouch for the uses people put the technology to, I think torrents are a brilliant way of sharing data online.

As a technology, it is unprecedented, because the uniqueness behind use of torrents to download/upload information is that it beats conventional client-server architecture any day. Because as the number of users to a torrent file increase, the speed at which it downloads increases as well. And this is perfect in an age when we are looking for technologies that help reduce energy requirements, infrastructure setup and maintenance costs and IT bandwidth (although I am not sure if bandwidth is optimised with torrents)

But is there any one who wants to look at torrents from the technology angle, and not from the part that they have been extensively used for the reasons why everyone is shunning away beautiful technology?

On 01-Dec-2011, at 10:03 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

> Tod Hopkins wrote:
> > On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> > > How many of us are downloading pirated software from torrents so that
> > > we are even exposed to these Trojans?
>
> > I think I can safely say that no one on THIS list ever downloads
> > anything questionable. Right?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > tod
>
> That's a good question, Tod. Who knows. Is clicking on a URL to see
> where it leads actually downloading something? I suppose so.
>
> Does Randy's use of the word "torrents" without a capital refer to
> Torrenz or the search engine so called?
> I've never used it, so I had to Google it.
>
> keith
>
>

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2i.

Re: Keeping up with Malware

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 1, 2011 11:14 am (PST)



On 12/1/2011 12:35 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
> Torrents is a peer-to-peer sharing platform that people can use to seed and download data. This can be both legitimate, illegal or free software. Though, I do not vouch for the uses people put the technology to, I think torrents are a brilliant way of sharing data online.
I certainly agree with you re the technology, Arjun. I use torrent
transfer for large Linux distributions, among other legitimate things.
It is a great way of moving large quantities of data and many files in
one lump package.

Harry

3a.

Apple Customer Relations - Never Ending Loop

Posted by: "Arjun Singhal" arjunsinghal@yahoo.com   arjunsinghal

Thu Dec 1, 2011 7:30 am (PST)



Hi All

I am writing in context to my post on the Macbook Pro screen flicker. I just heard from the Authorised Service Center that they have been able to see the flicker properly and their engineers are seeing the symptom (its obvious no one was attentively watching the screen till now) and have communicated with the Apple Engineers that work with Customer Relations. They say that the engineers are again hinting a change of parts, although nothing is certain yet, and the repairs could take another week. They also mentioned that the hardware test is clear and that its a question about trying out the permutations.

The Customer Relations Manager said she is not a technical person to advise on the case, but she will talk with the engineers. Now these engineers are sitting in Singapore, and Customer Relations is sitting in Singapore and the Authorised Service Engineers here in India are reporting one thing, and the entire communications loop is never closing just because Customer Relations is telling me that Apple has a policy against providing replacements on site or in India, and that I must ship the notebook to them in Singapore at my own cost and risk.

Months have passed since I am going in circles, and I we're nearing end of the warranty period on the Apple Care Protection Pack. My first request for a replacement after multiple unsuccessful attempts of repair was made on Nov 17th and Apple seems to be having a new policy effective Nov 21st onwards. The world says good things about Apple service, and out here I am feeling completely lost after having invested in expensive equipment, run back and forth from service centers without proper resolution and I end up having a piece of expensively machined aluminum that has been put together from salvaged parts made somewhere in a repair center.

Seriously don't know when the ordeal will end, but really not happy with the way things are going. They are expecting me to do so much to obtain service which should've just been part of reasonable customer experience. It's really being a test of wits, as though they want the customer to get tired and stop showing up only.

Regards,
Arjun
3b.

Re: Apple Customer Relations - Never Ending Loop

Posted by: "Island Center for the Arts" finearts@otenet.gr   monkeymannmcghee

Thu Dec 1, 2011 8:04 am (PST)



Thanks Arjun for the rundown of your problems with Apple customer care.

It is interesting for others to learn how the AppleCare package can vary from country to country or region to region, though I believe it costs about the same (or is more expensive outside of North America).

When I started buying Apple products in Greece some years ago AppleCare wasn't even an option. Finally within the last two years AppleCare is available but it is paltry compared to the North American coverage. It seems that where you are coverage is not very good either.

Good Luck and thanks for filling us in.
Tom

On Dec 1, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I am writing in context to my post on the Macbook Pro screen flicker. I just heard from the Authorised Service Center that they have been able to see the flicker properly and their engineers are seeing the symptom (its obvious no one was attentively watching the screen till now) and have communicated with the Apple Engineers that work with Customer Relations. They say that the engineers are again hinting a change of parts, although nothing is certain yet, and the repairs could take another
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

4.

Problem with keywords in iPhoto 11

Posted by: "harpangel36" harpangel36@yahoo.com   harpangel36

Thu Dec 1, 2011 8:09 am (PST)



I just upgraded to iphoto 11. I used to be able to see my keywords under the photo and add keywords under the photo. I also would be able to type in the shortcut for a keyword and it would fill it in automatically. Now, I am unable to type anything under the photos and adding keywords can only be done in the info bar. Is that new on iPhoto 11?

5a.

Imac 27 2011 and MacMini mid 2009

Posted by: "Tauqir Rana" ranatqr@yahoo.com   ranatqr

Thu Dec 1, 2011 10:36 am (PST)



I have �eculiar question. I recently bought a 27 inch iMac with updated Lion. I had a MacMini mid 2009(intel core duo) �hich I upgraded to 2 GB ram and installed Lion on it. Now I want to connect my MacMini to my new iMac to use the iMac screen to use some of the previous stuff on MacMini. The macMini has mini display port and iMac has thunderbolt port. What connecting cable I should use. The kid at Apple store thought I can use a thunderboltt extension to con net mini display port in mac mIni to connect to thunderbolt in iMac, although the machine(MacMini) is not thunderbolt capable.�br>
Anybody has any answer or suggestion. Is it possible to connect these machines using thunderbolt cable I do not want to buy the thunderbolt cable unnecessarily

Tauqir Rana MD
Riyadh KSA

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5b.

Re: Imac 27 2011 and MacMini mid 2009

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Dec 1, 2011 10:43 am (PST)



The 2009 mini doesn't have Thunderbolt - and I don't think the 2011 iMac
will work as a display (that was only the 2010 model, right?). If it does
work as a display you need a Mini Display cable if you just want to connect
them they can access each other via WiFi either on a network or via AdHoc -
connecting to each other. If you want faster transfer, a simple Ethernet
cable between the two will give you gigabit speed transfers.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 13:36, Tauqir Rana <ranatqr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I have peculiar question. I recently bought a 27 inch iMac with updated
> Lion. I had a MacMini mid 2009(intel core duo) which I upgraded to 2 GB
> ram and installed Lion on it. Now I want to connect my MacMini to my new
> iMac to use the iMac screen to use some of the previous stuff on MacMini.
> The macMini has mini display port and iMac has thunderbolt port. What
> connecting cable I should use. The kid at Apple store thought I can use a
> thunderboltt extension to con net mini display port in mac mIni to connect
> to thunderbolt in iMac, although the machine(MacMini) is not thunderbolt
> capable.
>
> Anybody has any answer or suggestion. Is it possible to connect these
> machines using thunderbolt cable I do not want to buy the thunderbolt cable
> unnecessarily
>
> Tauqir Rana MD
> Riyadh KSA
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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5c.

Re: Imac 27 2011 and MacMini mid 2009

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 1, 2011 11:16 am (PST)



On 12/1/2011 1:43 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> The 2009 mini doesn't have Thunderbolt - and I don't think the 2011 iMac
> will work as a display (that was only the 2010 model, right?). If it does
> work as a display you need a Mini Display cable if you just want to connect
> them they can access each other via WiFi either on a network or via AdHoc -
> connecting to each other. If you want faster transfer, a simple Ethernet
> cable between the two will give you gigabit speed transfers.
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 13:36, Tauqir Rana<ranatqr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > I have peculiar question. I recently bought a 27 inch iMac with updated
>> > Lion. I had a MacMini mid 2009(intel core duo) which I upgraded to 2 GB
>> > ram and installed Lion on it. Now I want to connect my MacMini to my new
>> > iMac to use the iMac screen to use some of the previous stuff on MacMini.
>> > The macMini has mini display port and iMac has thunderbolt port. What
>> > connecting cable I should use. The kid at Apple store thought I can use a
>> > thunderboltt extension to con net mini display port in mac mIni to connect
>> > to thunderbolt in iMac, although the machine(MacMini) is not thunderbolt
>> > capable.
>> >
>> > Anybody has any answer or suggestion. Is it possible to connect these
>> > machines using thunderbolt cable I do not want to buy the thunderbolt cable
>> > unnecessarily
>> >
>> > Tauqir Rana MD
>> > Riyadh KSA
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>

AFAIK, the Thunderbolt port is a 2-way port capable of graphic display
in both directions, so the machine should be able to accept input and
display it. I thought I had seen this explained somewhere, but I'll be
darned if I can find it now. When I do, I will post the URL.

Harry

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6a.

Re: Screen Flickering Problem & Customer Relations

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Thu Dec 1, 2011 11:12 am (PST)



On 11/30/2011 11:47 PM, Arjun Singhal wrote:
> I have been an apple customer in India since 2005 and never have I encountered on site service being offered by their vendors here. I guess they offer it for desktops but the vendors mention that even the iMac and Mac Minis are pretty portable if you are using TFT or LCD displays.
Having just purchased an Applecare plan for my latest iMac, I looked
over the booklet and in prominent text on the front, all methods of
service are specified, with no qualifications. Of course, I am in the
states and that's probably the difference. I have never tried to
acquire on site service, although I am tempted to for my latest quandary

The details of each service plan probably do differ by country and
geographic location. It would only make sense.

Harry

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7a.

New file uploaded to macsupportcentral

Posted by: "macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com" macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com

Thu Dec 1, 2011 11:26 am (PST)




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This email message is a notification to let you know that
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Description : Copy of list of keyboard shortcuts at http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343

You can access this file at the URL:
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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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8a.

Questions on iCloud and Photostream

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Thu Dec 1, 2011 12:46 pm (PST)



Hi all,

Is there a way to add photo's to Photostream using the website rather than putting it in iTunes or an iOS device?

My parents and in-laws both have iPads and I'm trying to see if there is a way for me to add pictures on the iCloud website so they can get recent updates of their grand-kids. I used to put on MobileMe and then send them a link but with MobileMe going away by June, I wanted to explore the options.

I see there is a way to subscribe to a photo feed from iPhoto 11 on Lion. Is there a similar way to do so directly from iPhoto on the iPad. Both sets of grandparents are using PCs so they don't have a desktop based Mac to subscribe to a feed from.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Jay
8b.

Re: Questions on iCloud and Photostream

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Thu Dec 1, 2011 1:08 pm (PST)



There is an iCloud Control Panel item for Windows - you install that and
just turn on Photo Stream and it lets you select directories for the
automatic download of all new photos and a different directory if you want
to insert photos into the PhotoStream. It is supposedly only for Windows
Vista or Windows 7 but there is a work around for the .exe to run on
Windows XP. I have it installed on an XP and a Win7 machine to receive
PhotoStreams...

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 15:46, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to add photo's to Photostream using the website rather than
> putting it in iTunes or an iOS device?
>
> My parents and in-laws both have iPads and I'm trying to see if there is a
> way for me to add pictures on the iCloud website so they can get recent
> updates of their grand-kids. I used to put on MobileMe and then send them a
> link but with MobileMe going away by June, I wanted to explore the options.
>
> I see there is a way to subscribe to a photo feed from iPhoto 11 on Lion.
> Is there a similar way to do so directly from iPhoto on the iPad. Both sets
> of grandparents are using PCs so they don't have a desktop based Mac to
> subscribe to a feed from.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Jay
>
>

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9a.

save a version

Posted by: "Lynn Voedisch" stet@drbrad.org   bastetmax

Thu Dec 1, 2011 2:08 pm (PST)



Someone asked this before and I thought I understood the answer, but no dice.

In Pages, when you get "save a version" (Instead of the perfectly understandable "save new version" in the old Pages), they don't let you change the name of the file. This is bad, because I want to go in there and rename the file that I started on and I can't figure out how to do that without going into Finder and going through all that trouble.
It used to be so easy.

The list answer yesterday said you click on the side and there are various extras to "save a version" but I can't find what to click on . Can you go through this again for me?

I don't know why they had to make Pages harder, but they did.

Lynn
9b.

Lion's desktop on top of desktop

Posted by: "Ken" avlisk@cox.net   avliska

Thu Dec 1, 2011 2:25 pm (PST)



I'm new this week to Lion. I used to use Expose to flip back to my desktop. All the open windows would conveniently slide off the screen so I could access my Hard Drive, and my photo folders which live on the desktop. Now when I use Expose to slide the open windows off, they don't slide off, but I get all the open windows, plus the old desktop still on the screen, but over a brand new, gray canvas-like desktop, and I can't even see my Hard Drive or the folders that used to be on the old desktop. I assume this is normal for Lion.
I looked at Apple tutorials, but haven't found one yet that explains what's going on or how to "fix" it.
A link or an explanation will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Ken Silva

9c.

Re: save a version

Posted by: "Hans Rijnbout" jrijnb@xs4all.nl   hans_rijnbout

Thu Dec 1, 2011 3:28 pm (PST)




Op 1 dec. 2011, om 23:08 heeft Lynn Voedisch het volgende geschreven:

> In Pages, when you get "save a version" (Instead of the perfectly understandable "save new version" in the old Pages), they don't let you change the name of the file. This is bad, because I want to go in there and rename the file that I started on and I can't figure out how to do that without going into Finder and going through all that trouble.

Lynn,
The old "Save as" command created a duplicate of your file and saved that through a standard "Save" dialog. Now you have do both separately. First "Duplicate", which opens a new window with your document, and then "Save", which opens the standard "Save" dialog. You may edit the copy before saving it and both files stay open until you close them.

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Hans Rijnbout
Utrecht, Netherlands

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