11/01/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8525

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Bill B.
1b.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Curby Keith
1c.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Laura Velez
1d.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: vixpix
1e.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Otto Nikolaus
1f.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Laura Velez
1g.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Bill B.
1h.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Otto Nikolaus
1i.
Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice From: Jim Saklad
2a.
Re: FaceTime on iPhone 4s? From: Jurgen Richter
2b.
Re: FaceTime on iPhone 4s? From: Jay Abraham
3a.
Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatible s From: Jay Abraham
3b.
Re: Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatib From: Denver Dan
4a.
Where is the C compiler in Lion? From: Bill Morton
4b.
Re: Where is the C compiler in Lion? From: Jim Saklad
4c.
Re: Where is the C compiler in Lion? From: Bill Morton
5a.
Re: Help with Installing MS Office 2011 for Mac From: Nick Andriash
5b.
Re: Help with Installing MS Office 2011 for Mac From: Nick Andriash
6a.
A question about copying and pasting From: cardiffcrafter
6b.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
7a.
Yahoo strikes again From: paul smith
7b.
Re: Yahoo strikes again From: Jim Saklad
8.
Business Card app for iphone? From: Jurgen Richter
9a.
Postbox 3 launched with impressive features From: Michel Munger
9b.
Re: Postbox 3 launched with impressive features From: Harry Flaxman

Messages

1a.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Tue Nov 1, 2011 6:57 am (PDT)



At 10:11 AM -0700 10/31/11, DaveC wrote:
>But in what way do you use your iDevice that's unique? (The geekier
>the better...)

I used my iPad to level a new washer and dryer. Can't remember the program name since my iPad is at home.

Bill

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1b.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Curby Keith" clkeith50@yahoo.com   clkeith50

Tue Nov 1, 2011 7:16 am (PDT)



You probably used Clinometer. I used it to measure the angles of the brackets on a trailer hitch I made for my motorcycle.

Curby
Del City, Ok

On Nov 1, 2011, at 8:55 AM, "Bill B." <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:

> At 10:11 AM -0700 10/31/11, DaveC wrote:
> >But in what way do you use your iDevice that's unique? (The geekier
> >the better...)
>
> I used my iPad to level a new washer and dryer. Can't remember the program name since my iPad is at home.
>
> Bill
>
> --
> ____________________________
> Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8
>

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1c.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Laura Velez" lgvelez@yahoo.com   lgvelez

Tue Nov 1, 2011 7:16 am (PDT)



Glad you clarified your action .... I had visions of your poor iPad under the feet of the washer and dryer. Obviously there is an app that works as a level with the bubbles.

LauraV in TX

On Nov 1, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Bill B. wrote:

> At 10:11 AM -0700 10/31/11, DaveC wrote:
> >But in what way do you use your iDevice that's unique? (The geekier
> >the better...)
>
> I used my iPad to level a new washer and dryer. Can't remember the program name since my iPad is at home.
>
> Bill
>
> --
> ____________________________
> Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8
>

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1d.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "vixpix" vixpix@frontiernet.net   nyskater

Tue Nov 1, 2011 7:50 am (PDT)



There's also iHandy Level.

Vickie

Sent from a spoiled little iPad

On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Curby Keith <clkeith50@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You probably used Clinometer. I used it to measure the angles of the brackets on a trailer hitch I made for my motorcycle.
>
> Curby
> Del City, Ok
>
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 8:55 AM, "Bill B." <bill501@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> At 10:11 AM -0700 10/31/11, DaveC wrote:
>>> But in what way do you use your iDevice that's unique? (The geekier
>>> the better...)
>>
>> I used my iPad to level a new washer and dryer. Can't remember the program name since my iPad is at home.
>>
>> Bill
>>
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>> Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8
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1e.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue Nov 1, 2011 8:07 am (PDT)



Clinometer is included in App Box Lite (free). This might cut down on the
number of separate apps you have.

Otto

On 1 November 2011 14:09, Curby Keith <clkeith50@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You probably used Clinometer. I used it to measure the angles of the
> brackets on a trailer hitch I made for my motorcycle.
>

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1f.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Laura Velez" lgvelez@yahoo.com   lgvelez

Tue Nov 1, 2011 9:34 am (PDT)



Is the pro version any better?

LauraV in TX

On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Clinometer is included in App Box Lite (free). This might cut down on the
> number of separate apps you have.
>
> Otto
>
> On 1 November 2011 14:09, Curby Keith <clkeith50@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You probably used Clinometer. I used it to measure the angles of the
> > brackets on a trailer hitch I made for my motorcycle.

1g.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:31 am (PDT)



At 9:09 AM -0500 11/1/11, Curby Keith wrote:
>You probably used Clinometer. I used it to measure the angles of the brackets on a trailer hitch I made for my motorcycle.

Yes that's it. It great since it worked in 2 dimensions at the same time. And checking with long level, the results were right on.

Bill

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Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8

1h.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:47 am (PDT)



No idea. I only add free apps.

Otto

On 1 November 2011 16:12, Laura Velez <lgvelez@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is the pro version any better?
>
> LauraV in TX
>

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1i.

Re: In what unique ways do you use your iDevice

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:53 am (PDT)



>> But in what way do you use your iDevice that's unique? (The geekier
>> the better...)
>
> I used my iPad to level a new washer and dryer. Can't remember the program name since my iPad is at home.

I am enjoying a new photovoltaic installation. Before set-up, I used "Clinometer" to check the exact azimuth and elevation of the roof segments to be used.

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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2a.

Re: FaceTime on iPhone 4s?

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Tue Nov 1, 2011 6:58 am (PDT)



Thanks Jay
That seems to have done the trick. Those steps were not found hence
poorly documented, so I appreciate your help.
I managed to get both phones to work here using my wifi, but not sure if
facetime calls are considered voice calls or hybrid tapping into our
data plans. Seems that video component can really drain the bandwidth of
the feeble monthly allowance. While a novel feature, not sure how useful
that is for day to day calling, unless I need to "show" someone I'm
calling something of interest....

Have you gone into Settings: Facetime and assigned the e-mails you can
be reached at for video calls? Also the other party has to set up
Facetime in a similar fashion.

2b.

Re: FaceTime on iPhone 4s?

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Tue Nov 1, 2011 7:23 am (PDT)



Hi Jurgen,

We mainly use it for having our kids talk with their grandparents.
That way they can see each other and have a conversation without being
tied to the phone. I use it mainly from iPad to iPad so we go off the
Wifi connection rather than the cellular data plan.

The quality is much better than Skype but obviously restricted to
people who have iPad 2 or iphone 4 and above.

Glad you got it to work.

Jay
On Nov 1, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Jurgen Richter wrote:

> Thanks Jay
> That seems to have done the trick. Those steps were not found hence
> poorly documented, so I appreciate your help.
> I managed to get both phones to work here using my wifi, but not
> sure if
> facetime calls are considered voice calls or hybrid tapping into our
> data plans. Seems that video component can really drain the
> bandwidth of
> the feeble monthly allowance. While a novel feature, not sure how
> useful
> that is for day to day calling, unless I need to "show" someone I'm
> calling something of interest....
>
> Have you gone into Settings: Facetime and assigned the e-mails you can
> be reached at for video calls? Also the other party has to set up
> Facetime in a similar fashion.

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3a.

Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatible s

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Tue Nov 1, 2011 8:21 am (PDT)



Hi all,

I'm upgrading to Lion and newer hardware (mac mini and Imac) from some
old PowerPC G5 towers and Imac G4. Given the job situation , I can't
afford to upgrade all my software and I'm not sure I need the
capabilities of the original software that I bought but I do want to
be able to access them and modify as needed.

The following are software I know that I will have to upgrade but
would like suggestions on free or inexpensive alternates that I might
be able to use in the mean time.

Adobe Acrobat 7.0 - I use mainly to keep consolidated records and
receipts, annotating notes on it. I know that Preview can't combine
PDF files, nor can I make notes on PDFs that I have imported. Is
there some other alternative other than going the full Adobe Upgrade.

Retrospect - I have been using Time Machine since I upgraded to
Leopard. I assume this should be good enough? I also have
ChronoSync. Probably can stop using except for recovering archives.

Filemaker Pro 7: Got it for an old business but don't use often
anymore. However I have some old Inventory and Library templates
where I have put our house inventory and my library of 2000+ books. I
would like to be able to keep up these files - both access and add new
records. Is there some inexpensive software I can use that can read
my old databases?

Quicken 2006 -- I figure I will convert to one of the other software
everyone has been recommending like Moneydance, etc. I just need to
take the time to do the evaluation and conversion.

Microsoft Office 2004 - Probably will upgrade to Office 2011 but
maybe use Open Office in the interim

Photoshop Elements 3 - I've been using to fix up family photo's by
replacing faces with closed eyes, etc. I didn't think those
capabilities existed in iPhoto when I first started using but maybe
they do now.

I have got the new computers now and I figure I will just transfer the
user folders over and then reinstall all the applications. I would
appreciate any suggestions on replacements for above or anything else
to watch out from as I upgrade.

Thanks

Jay

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3b.

Re: Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatib

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue Nov 1, 2011 9:35 am (PDT)



Howdy.

Check MacUpdate for lots of alternative software possibilities.

<http://www.macupdate.com/>

Lots of alternative PDF programs. Look for PDFpen or PDF Edit.

There are many backup alternatives to Retrospect (a program I've had a
love/hate relationship with for a long time).

FileMaker Pro. I had to upgrade my FMP 7 to the current version after
moving to Lion. The local Apple Store had a decently priced upgrade
box for FMP version 11. Note that the install of FMP 11 was fine and
it opened all of my FMP ver. 7 files just fine. What hasn't worked AT
ALL is being able to install the FMP upgrade to get to ver. 11.0.4. I
get an error message every time even after two different sessions with
FMP tech support. FileMaker has a problem with this and I'm not the
only one to experience it.

Many replacements for Quicken have been discussed here. Check some
previous posts on the topic.

I'm using MS Office 2011 and it's doing fine. A little lugubrious but
doing OK. Open Office is a possibility. iWorks programs can also open
Word, Excel, and PowerPoint files but if these contain elements using
the special features of Word, Excel, PP, that are not available in
OpenOffice or iWorks programs then those elements will be lost when the
file is opened.

Photoshop E. Try the great GREAT shareware program GraphicConverter.
It does pretty much most of what Photoshop full can do but has extra
features that make it just a great program. iPhoto has a red eye
removal feature (so does GraphicConverter). GraphicConverter is a low
cost shareware program.

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:20:23 -0500, Jay Abraham wrote:
> Adobe Acrobat 7.0 - I use mainly to keep consolidated records and
> receipts, annotating notes on it. I know that Preview can't combine
> PDF files, nor can I make notes on PDFs that I have imported. Is
> there some other alternative other than going the full Adobe Upgrade.
>
> Retrospect - I have been using Time Machine since I upgraded to
> Leopard. I assume this should be good enough? I also have
> ChronoSync. Probably can stop using except for recovering archives.
>
> Filemaker Pro 7: Got it for an old business but don't use often
> anymore. However I have some old Inventory and Library templates
> where I have put our house inventory and my library of 2000+ books. I
> would like to be able to keep up these files - both access and add new
> records. Is there some inexpensive software I can use that can read
> my old databases?
>
> Quicken 2006 -- I figure I will convert to one of the other software
> everyone has been recommending like Moneydance, etc. I just need to
> take the time to do the evaluation and conversion.
>
> Microsoft Office 2004 - Probably will upgrade to Office 2011 but
> maybe use Open Office in the interim
>
> Photoshop Elements 3 - I've been using to fix up family photo's by
> replacing faces with closed eyes, etc. I didn't think those
> capabilities existed in iPhoto when I first started using but maybe
> they do now.
>
>
> I have got the new computers now and I figure I will just transfer the
> user folders over and then reinstall all the applications. I would
> appreciate any suggestions on replacements for above or anything else
> to watch out from as I upgrade.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jay
>

4a.

Where is the C compiler in Lion?

Posted by: "Bill Morton" billmorton999@gmail.com   redpup99

Tue Nov 1, 2011 9:17 am (PDT)



Up until now, a standard installation of OSX included a "cc" command
which would handle C or C++ compilation and linking.

Lion 10.7.2 doesn't recognize cc as a command? Is it on the system
somewhere and if so where?

Bill

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4b.

Re: Where is the C compiler in Lion?

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:48 am (PDT)



> Up until now, a standard installation of OSX included a "cc" command
> which would handle C or C++ compilation and linking.
>
> Lion 10.7.2 doesn't recognize cc as a command? Is it on the system
> somewhere and if so where?

I just opened Terminal:
> Jims-MacBook-Pro-2:~ jimdoc$ cc
> i686-apple-darwin11-llvm-gcc-4.2: no input files

I also have Xcode installed.

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4c.

Re: Where is the C compiler in Lion?

Posted by: "Bill Morton" billmorton999@gmail.com   redpup99

Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:31 am (PDT)



Thanks, Jim. I called Apple tech support and was told that
"we haven't included Xcode in the newer models". AGH!
However, it is FREE from the App Store and I'm downloading
it now.

I am still a little Pxxxd off that they took it away with no notice!
The only reason I use Apple is that it gives me a free Unix
platform underneath all the graphical stuff and I regard the
old PWB (Programmer's Workbench) stuff as PART of
Unix, not to be easily lost!!!

On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> > Up until now, a standard installation of OSX included a "cc" command
> > which would handle C or C++ compilation and linking.
> >
> > Lion 10.7.2 doesn't recognize cc as a command? Is it on the system
> > somewhere and if so where?
>
> I just opened Terminal:
> > Jims-MacBook-Pro-2:~ jimdoc$ cc
> > i686-apple-darwin11-llvm-gcc-4.2: no input files
>
> I also have Xcode installed.
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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5a.

Re: Help with Installing MS Office 2011 for Mac

Posted by: "Nick Andriash" Nickster248@telus.net   andriash2005

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:18 am (PDT)




On 2011-10-20, at 9:36 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> That should get you to a good place. 8-)

Randy, I tried as you suggested, and Word, PP and Excel run fine, but I still run into a problem with Outlook, in that I keep receiving the following error message:

"This identity cannot be opened with this version of Outlook"

What I would like to do is restore from a previous Time Machine backup, but here too I run into a problem. I've googled and read many pages on restoring, but they all say you have to insert your original Startup disk to get to the Utilities menu item "restore from a backup". Problem is, double clicking on the Install OX button brings up the following

"You can't use this version of the application Install Mac OS X.app with this version of Mac OS X."

Where do I go from here?

--
 Nick Andriash 
andriash@gmail.com
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 8 GB, OS X 10.7.2
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4S 32GB

5b.

Re: Help with Installing MS Office 2011 for Mac

Posted by: "Nick Andriash" Nickster248@telus.net   andriash2005

Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:08 am (PDT)




On 2011-10-21, at 9:18 AM, I wrote:

> Where do I go from here?

Just to close this posting, I finally reverted to an earlier Time Machine backup, and all is well again. Reverting back has also cleared up all the spinning coloured wheels I was getting, and my Macbook Pro is now back to it's old self. :o)

Thank you again everyone for helping out.

--
 Nick Andriash 
andriash@gmail.com
17" MacBook Pro, 2.3GHz Intel Core i7, Memory 8 GB, OS X 10.7.2
iPad2 WiFi & 3G, 64GB
iPhone4 16GB

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6a.

A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "cardiffcrafter" cardiffcrafter@yahoo.co.uk   cardiffcrafter

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:36 am (PDT)



I am having issues with copying and pasting with my Mac. When I highlight a page on a website text and images and copy when I come to paste it either in Word of Open Office only the text pastes. How to I copy and paste texts and images? thanks in advance

6b.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:31 am (PDT)



Select the text, hold down command-c, go to where you want the text pasted, hold down command-v.

This doesn't work?

Harry

______________________
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:13 PM, cardiffcrafter wrote:

> I am having issues with copying and pasting with my Mac. When I highlight a page on a website text and images and copy when I come to paste it either in Word of Open Office only the text pastes. How to I copy and paste texts and images? thanks in advance
>

7a.

Yahoo strikes again

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:37 am (PDT)



I just received a "new" message to the group that was dated October 21.
Anyone who feels that their questions or comments are not generating responses might want to check that their posts actually *reached* the group.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.2

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7b.

Re: Yahoo strikes again

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Tue Nov 1, 2011 10:51 am (PDT)



> I just received a "new" message to the group that was dated October 21.
> Anyone who feels that their questions or comments are not generating responses might want to check that their posts actually *reached* the group.

I just received one I sent on Oct. 20....

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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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8.

Business Card app for iphone?

Posted by: "Jurgen Richter" yahoo-1@sympatico.ca   epsongroups

Tue Nov 1, 2011 11:14 am (PDT)



Like probably many of you, I have a stack of business cards on a pile,
held together with rubber bands.... To make my phone more useful I was
hoping to scan and import or photograph these with the phone and store
the actual business card image for starters, sort them by alphabetic
order, or whatever I choose. If if then does its OCR thing and actually
creates contact info into the Contacts app, great..... I've checked out
the app store and there are many apps to choose from. Few, if any, have
a trial or free version to check them out... and I really don't want to
pay for something that does not meet my needs.... so iFolks.... what
such apps are tops on your list so I can at least thin the selection and
compare features before purchase?
Thanks

9a.

Postbox 3 launched with impressive features

Posted by: "Michel Munger" michel@macsupportcentral.com   mmungermtl

Tue Nov 1, 2011 12:13 pm (PDT)



Hi everyone,

I was once asked why I liked the Postbox email software. Its 3.0 version has just been released and the new features sound impressive.

Social media integration and also integration with the latest Mac technologies, such as full screen and trackpad gestures.

http://www.postbox-inc.com/features

That's on trop of superior interface.

Michel

Sent from my iPhone
9b.

Re: Postbox 3 launched with impressive features

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Tue Nov 1, 2011 12:22 pm (PDT)



Hi Michel,

I think I tried the last version of Postbox and found it lacking. The new version sounds great. I'm setting up the demo now.

Thanks for the info!

Harry

______________________
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Michel Munger wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I was once asked why I liked the Postbox email software. Its 3.0 version has just been released and the new features sound impressive.
>
> Social media integration and also integration with the latest Mac technologies, such as full screen and trackpad gestures.
>
> http://www.postbox-inc.com/features
>
> That's on trop of superior interface.

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