11/02/2011

[macsupport] Digest Number 8528

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1a.
Re: Duplicate Entries From: Tod Hopkins
1b.
Re: Duplicate Entries From: Harry Flaxman
2a.
Re: Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatib From: Bill B.
2b.
Re: Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatib From: Tod Hopkins
3.1.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Tod Hopkins
3.2.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
3.3.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: OBrien
3.4.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: luvtoso
3.5.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
3.6.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: luvtoso
3.7.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: pat30@twcny.rr.com
3.8.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
3.9.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: luvtoso
3.10.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
3.11.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Tod Hopkins
3.12.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
3.13.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: luvtoso
3.14.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: luvtoso
3.15.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
3.16.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Harry Flaxman
3.17.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: Laura Velez
3.18.
Re: A question about copying and pasting From: OBrien
4a.
Re: rounded corners From: OBrien
5.
Yahoo and iCloud From: Harry Flaxman
6a.
Re: FaceTime on iPhone 4s? From: Jay Abraham

Messages

1a.

Re: Duplicate Entries

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:49 am (PDT)



That's always a tough one. Do you have dupes on iCloud? All machines? Are all events duplicated regardless of which instance created them? Same for deleting. Is there more than one user involved? More than one iCloud account anywhere?

Try creating "traceable" items that contain the information about precisely who created them, where and when, and then trace it's replication on other instances... does it appear instantly as a dupe everywhere, when is it duplicated on the original machine, and so on...

Cheers,
tod

On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Since implementing iCloud on my iMac, my wife's Win pc, and my iPod Touch, I have been getting duplicate address book entries, duplicate calendar entries as well.
>
> I have no idea how this is happening. I've gone over the settings and all looks OK. When I installed iCloud, I turned off CalDEV for Google and Yahoo. Should they have been left on, to sync, I can understand the dupes∑but that's not the case.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions as to how to remedy this? If I get rid of the dupe entry, it shows up again!
>
> TIA
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> Harry
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Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
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1b.

Re: Duplicate Entries

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:01 am (PDT)



No dupes on iCloud at all. That was probably the first thing I checked. Should have mentioned that!

Just checked Outlook on my wife's PC. Nothing duplicated there either, however, it looks like Office 2010 on Windows handles contact sync'ing differently than OS X. It looks like it basically shows the web page that contains the contacts up on iCloud, rather than actually sync'ing periodically.

Can't be sure of this, but we all know M$'s infinite wisdom when it comes to things like this.

Back to the drawing board.

Harry

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On Nov 2, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> That's always a tough one. Do you have dupes on iCloud? All machines? Are all events duplicated regardless of which instance created them? Same for deleting. Is there more than one user involved? More than one iCloud account anywhere?
>
> Try creating "traceable" items that contain the information about precisely who created them, where and when, and then trace it's replication on other instances... does it appear instantly as a dupe everywhere, when is it duplicated on the original machine, and so on...
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> Cheers,
> tod
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> On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> Since implementing iCloud on my iMac, my wife's Win pc, and my iPod Touch, I have been getting duplicate address book entries, duplicate calendar entries as well.
>>
>> I have no idea how this is happening. I've gone over the settings and all looks OK. When I installed iCloud, I turned off CalDEV for Google and Yahoo. Should they have been left on, to sync, I can understand the dupes∑but that's not the case.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions as to how to remedy this? If I get rid of the dupe entry, it shows up again!
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Harry
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>> ______________________
>> Harry Flaxman
>> harry.flaxman@comcast.net
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>> Group FAQ:
>> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
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>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> Tod Hopkins

2a.

Re: Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatib

Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com   kernos501

Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:52 am (PDT)



At 10:20 AM -0500 11/1/11, Jay Abraham wrote:
>I'm upgrading to Lion and newer hardware (mac mini and Imac) from some
>old PowerPC G5 towers and Imac G4. Given the job situation , I can't
>afford to upgrade all my software and I'm not sure I need the
>capabilities of the original software that I bought but I do want to
>be able to access them and modify as needed.

I have a similar problem, Jay, though my software upgrade costs were thousands of $$ just for 4th dimension and 4D server for several computers. I also needed Filemaker 11, and a new MS Office, plus training for the new Office (was using Word 5.1a and 2004).. If you are used to Acrobat, nothing else will satisfy you, unless you just use it for really simple things.

My solution was to install Snow Leopard Server in VMware Fusion or Parallels and run the programs in a SL virtual machine. I can also still run Eudora this way under Lion.

If you were using Leopard on your G5, you could use Screen Sharing on the Mini to access the programs. Not as fast or elegant, but it works and gives you time to udate the programs.

Bill

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2b.

Re: Upgrading to Lion - Need inexpensive alternatives for incompatib

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:29 am (PDT)



Preview for PDF. Time Machine and/or Carbon Copy Cloner for backups. If you are good at databases, you can use "Base" in Libre Office/OpenOffice/NeoOffice. Nowhere near as elegant and simple as Filemaker, but the power is there and it's free. Consider Bento carefully as it is a limited app compared to Filemaker. Consider the above office suites as MS replacement if you want free. I use NeoOffice on Mac. Still the most Mac-friendly variant. If you want something very elegant and Mac like, go to iWorks. Also supports iPads directly. iWorks will, however, take some serious adjustment moving from Word. It's great, but very different. I was not willing to put in the effort which is why I use NeoOffice which is much closer.

For graphics work, there are many, many apps depending on your level of expertise. Gimp is the most powerful free app, but also complex (like Photoshop). Also depends on your specific needs (editing vs conversion vs organization, etc...). iPhoto can likely handle much of what you want. Graphic Convertor is excellent but might not be right for your needs if you are used to Elements. If Elements has not been upgraded, I'm certain it will be. As much as I hate Adobe, Elements is my favorite graphics app. Very nice balance of power and ease of use.

Cheers,
tod

On Nov 1, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm upgrading to Lion and newer hardware (mac mini and Imac) from some
> old PowerPC G5 towers and Imac G4. Given the job situation , I can't
> afford to upgrade all my software and I'm not sure I need the
> capabilities of the original software that I bought but I do want to
> be able to access them and modify as needed.
>
> The following are software I know that I will have to upgrade but
> would like suggestions on free or inexpensive alternates that I might
> be able to use in the mean time.
>
> Adobe Acrobat 7.0 - I use mainly to keep consolidated records and
> receipts, annotating notes on it. I know that Preview can't combine
> PDF files, nor can I make notes on PDFs that I have imported. Is
> there some other alternative other than going the full Adobe Upgrade.
>
> Retrospect - I have been using Time Machine since I upgraded to
> Leopard. I assume this should be good enough? I also have
> ChronoSync. Probably can stop using except for recovering archives.
>
> Filemaker Pro 7: Got it for an old business but don't use often
> anymore. However I have some old Inventory and Library templates
> where I have put our house inventory and my library of 2000+ books. I
> would like to be able to keep up these files - both access and add new
> records. Is there some inexpensive software I can use that can read
> my old databases?
>
> Quicken 2006 -- I figure I will convert to one of the other software
> everyone has been recommending like Moneydance, etc. I just need to
> take the time to do the evaluation and conversion.
>
> Microsoft Office 2004 - Probably will upgrade to Office 2011 but
> maybe use Open Office in the interim
>
> Photoshop Elements 3 - I've been using to fix up family photo's by
> replacing faces with closed eyes, etc. I didn't think those
> capabilities existed in iPhoto when I first started using but maybe
> they do now.
>
> I have got the new computers now and I figure I will just transfer the
> user folders over and then reinstall all the applications. I would
> appreciate any suggestions on replacements for above or anything else
> to watch out from as I upgrade.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jay
>
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>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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3.1.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:07 am (PDT)



I just tried what you describe using Firefox and NeoOffice (a version of Open Office) and the Washington Post website. It worked, though what came into NeoOffice was a formatting mess as expected.

How this works in any specific case will depend heavily on both the specific web page and the application into which you are pasting. Every cut and paste involves a complex conversion from the original format (HTML for instance) to the format the receiving application uses internally (Word, Open Doc, RTF, etc...). The cut and paste function itself has it's own unique internal format and cannot handle everything (no Flash animation for instance). Then the receiving app has to deal with what's left and convert it to something it can work with. In some apps, that means throwing away everything but the text. Other apps try to cope with additional info like graphics and formatting and even hyperlinks.

And yes, the function does work slightly differently on PC and Mac and you will not get identical results.

Another factor has to do with how much you highlight. When in doubt, highlight more since much of what you may need is actually "invisible" to the eye.

And finally, in many apps there is a "paste special" command (look under the Edit menu) which may allow more control over precisely what information is pasted and what is not.

Cheers,
tod

On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:13 PM, cardiffcrafter wrote:

> I am having issues with copying and pasting with my Mac. When I highlight a page on a website text and images and copy when I come to paste it either in Word of Open Office only the text pastes. How to I copy and paste texts and images? thanks in advance
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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3.2.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:10 am (PDT)



At this point I would recommend one of the old troubleshooting tips:

Log into another account on that Mac and try copying and posting. If it works there, then you have a problem with your primary account.

Harry

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On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> I just tried what you describe using Firefox and NeoOffice (a version of Open Office) and the Washington Post website. It worked, though what came into NeoOffice was a formatting mess as expected.
>
> How this works in any specific case will depend heavily on both the specific web page and the application into which you are pasting. Every cut and paste involves a complex conversion from the original format (HTML for instance) to the format the receiving application uses internally (Word, Open Doc, RTF, etc...). The cut and paste function itself has it's own unique internal format and cannot handle everything (no Flash animation for instance). Then the receiving app has to deal with what's left and convert it to something it can work with. In some apps, that means throwing away everything but the text. Other apps try to cope with additional info like graphics and formatting and even hyperlinks.
>
> And yes, the function does work slightly differently on PC and Mac and you will not get identical results.
>
> Another factor has to do with how much you highlight. When in doubt, highlight more since much of what you may need is actually "invisible" to the eye.
>
> And finally, in many apps there is a "paste special" command (look under the Edit menu) which may allow more control over precisely what information is pasted and what is not.
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:13 PM, cardiffcrafter wrote:
>
>> I am having issues with copying and pasting with my Mac. When I highlight a page on a website text and images and copy when I come to paste it either in Word of Open Office only the text pastes. How to I copy and paste texts and images? thanks in advance
>>
>

3.3.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:41 am (PDT)



On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:26:31 +1100, George Barker wrote:
> This may be something I have added myself, but if I select text and
> images in Safari then choose Safari > Services > Make New TextEdit
> Window Containing Solution it creates a new TextEdit window with both
> the text and any images involved.

That can, also, be done in OSX 10.4.11, but a little differently:

Safari > Services > TextEdit > New Window Containing Selection


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3.4.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net   luvtoso@verizon.net

Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:52 am (PDT)



When I do a command-c then Command-v I also only get text. This is one of the things I miss since I switched from a PC.
Gayle

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3.5.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:09 am (PDT)



I've always gotten the graphics as well as text. It may depend upon the application you're pasting in to. I've never had an issue with this though.

Harry

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On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:52 AM, luvtoso wrote:

> When I do a command-c then Command-v I also only get text. This is one of the things I miss since I switched from a PC.
> Gayle

3.6.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net   luvtoso@verizon.net

Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:21 am (PDT)



Harry you are so right. I tried pasting into Microsoft Word and all it will paste is the text. Then I tried pasting into a blank email message window and there was the text and photos. The next program and tried was TextEdit and I was able to get both photos and text.
Thanks a bunch. Now I just have to remember to use TextEdit.
Gayle

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3.7.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "pat30@twcny.rr.com" pat30@twcny.rr.com   iiwish54

Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:43 am (PDT)



What is stickies? Is it an app or is it with iiworks?
Thank you
Pat30
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- Harry Flaxman <harry.flaxman@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hmm. It may depend upon what you're pasting the clipboard contents into. I haven't tried to determine that. I know whenever I copy and paste, I get both graphics and text.
>
> One test might be to open the program, 'Stickies'. Copy from something with a graphic file and paste into Stickies. I know that Stickies will show both text and graphics.
>
> Harry
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> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@comcast.net

3.8.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:57 am (PDT)



Gayle,

I use Stickies as a great alternative to TextEdit. It's convenient�just highlight text and press a shortcut, (I believe it's shift-command-y, but don't quote me on it), and the selected text and graphics automatically get pasted into a new sticky for you.

Also, there is no saving, unless you close that sticky. Stickies keeps a running database of saves for each new sticky. When you open the app, the sticks are right there, the way you left them.

Harry

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On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:21 AM, luvtoso wrote:

> Harry you are so right. I tried pasting into Microsoft Word and all it will paste is the text. Then I tried pasting into a blank email message window and there was the text and photos. The next program and tried was TextEdit and I was able to get both photos and text.
> Thanks a bunch. Now I just have to remember to use TextEdit.
> Gayle

3.9.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net   luvtoso@verizon.net

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:19 am (PDT)



Harry
I tried using the shift-command-y and it doesn't seem to do anything. Were your thoughts it would open the stickies and automatically paste into it??? Now that would really be something.

Gayle

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3.10.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:23 am (PDT)



Looked it up. Here you go! :

Shortcut for a Sticky note
A pretty cool shortcut that is hidden in the "Services" menu. It takes any text you highlight and transform it into a Sticky note in Apple's Sticky application. You just have to highlight text and press "Shift-Command-Y" and Boom, it opens up sticky and create a new note with the text you selected. The only negative is I wish you could select if it goes in the Sticky application or in the Sticky widget (it can only go in the app). This works in any Cocoa application (basically every application except Microsoft!).

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Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:18 AM, luvtoso wrote:

> Harry
> I tried using the shift-command-y and it doesn't seem to do anything. Were your thoughts it would open the stickies and automatically paste into it??? Now that would really be something.
>
> Gayle

3.11.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:26 am (PDT)



Try "Paste Special" in Word. It's on the Edit menu.

tod

On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:21 AM, luvtoso wrote:

> Harry you are so right. I tried pasting into Microsoft Word and all it will paste is the text. Then I tried pasting into a blank email message window and there was the text and photos. The next program and tried was TextEdit and I was able to get both photos and text.
> Thanks a bunch. Now I just have to remember to use TextEdit.
> Gayle
>
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>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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3.12.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:26 am (PDT)



Just tried this out of Chrome and it worked like a charm!

Make sure you have Stickies running though. Apparently, as the paragraph below says, it works with every Cocoa app. I'm busy trying that out!!

Harry

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Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Looked it up. Here you go! :
>
> Shortcut for a Sticky note
> A pretty cool shortcut that is hidden in the "Services" menu. It takes any text you highlight and transform it into a Sticky note in Apple's Sticky application. You just have to highlight text and press "Shift-Command-Y" and Boom, it opens up sticky and create a new note with the text you selected. The only negative is I wish you could select if it goes in the Sticky application or in the Sticky widget (it can only go in the app). This works in any Cocoa application (basically every application except Microsoft!).
>

3.13.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net   luvtoso@verizon.net

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:36 am (PDT)



Hmmm just tried it in Safari and it works fine. I didn't even have the Sitcky app open it just opened and pasted the info into it. Pretty amazing. I didn't get the graphics though just the text. When I first tried using it I was just coping a few lines of an email I had received and it didn't work. Seems you need to do it from a browser window.
Gayle

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3.14.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net   luvtoso@verizon.net

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:40 am (PDT)



I tried the "Paste Special" with Microsoft Word but it doesn't paste the graphics just the text.
Gayle

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3.15.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:42 am (PDT)



It should work from any Cocoa app. Mail does not work for some reason. Chrome and Safari, yes. iTunes, iPhoto�don't know yet, probably works.

Harry

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Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@comcast.net

On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:36 AM, luvtoso wrote:

> Hmmm just tried it in Safari and it works fine. I didn't even have the Sitcky app open it just opened and pasted the info into it. Pretty amazing. I didn't get the graphics though just the text. When I first tried using it I was just coping a few lines of an email I had received and it didn't work. Seems you need to do it from a browser window.
> Gayle
>

3.16.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:44 am (PDT)



If you read the paragraph I copied in, it does not work with M$ apps at all.

Harry

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Harry Flaxman
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On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:40 AM, luvtoso wrote:

> I tried the "Paste Special" with Microsoft Word but it doesn't paste the graphics just the text.
> Gayle

3.17.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "Laura Velez" lgvelez@yahoo.com   lgvelez

Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:54 am (PDT)



It works for me ... thanks Harry.

LauraV in TX

On Nov 2, 2011, at 9:18 AM, luvtoso wrote:

> Harry
> I tried using the shift-command-y and it doesn't seem to do anything. Were your thoughts it would open the stickies and automatically paste into it??? Now that would really be something.
>
> Gayle

3.18.

Re: A question about copying and pasting

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:56 am (PDT)



On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 6:00:31 -0400, pat30@twcny.rr.com wrote:
> What is stickies? Is it an app or is it with iiworks?

It came with your OSX. If it isn't in your Dock (icon is three yellow notes), you'll find it in your Applications folder.


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4a.

Re: rounded corners

Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net   conorboru

Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:26 am (PDT)



On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:37:37 -0400, Oneal Neumann wrote:
> ...I noticed that Finder windows have all four corners rounded, yet
> other windows (eg: Mail emails, Safari, etc) have only the upper-2
> corners rounded....

Probably has something to do with the vertical and horizontal scroll bars.


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5.

Yahoo and iCloud

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@comcast.net   hflaxman001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:44 am (PDT)




Has anyone noticed that Yahoo mail was added to Mail when they installed iCloud?

This is a pay service still. I looked at it right after it appeared in Mail, and there is still a monthly share.

I wonder if Apple has some deal with Yahoo to offer this POP access free of charge?

Has anyone noticed Yahoo appearing? I haven't been billed for this, nor did I agree to pay for anything to do with iCloud.

Harry

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6a.

Re: FaceTime on iPhone 4s?

Posted by: "Jay Abraham" jaygroups@abrahamgroup.net   kerala01212001

Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:47 am (PDT)



I believe that Facetime replaces iChat though I don't know that for
sure. I use Facetime on my mobile devices but they can't talk to
iChat users.

Jay

On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

>
> On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Jay Abraham wrote:
>
> > Hi Jurgen,
> >
> > We mainly use it for having our kids talk with their grandparents.
> > That way they can see each other and have a conversation without
> being
> > tied to the phone. I use it mainly from iPad to iPad so we go off
> the
> > Wifi connection rather than the cellular data plan.
> >
> > The quality is much better than Skype but obviously restricted to
> > people who have iPad 2 or iphone 4 and above.
>
> Why is it better than iChat?
>
> Daly

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