Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Firefox Printing From: Ken K
- 2a.
- Re: help with new computer From: Tod Hopkins
- 2b.
- Re: help with new computer From: OBrien
- 3a.
- Re: time machine backup From: Tod Hopkins
- 3b.
- Re: time machine backup From: Otto Nikolaus
- 4a.
- Re: faster DNS 21% via namebench From: Tod Hopkins
- 5a.
- New Namebench Question(s) From: Guy Kudlemyer
- 5b.
- Re: New Namebench Question(s) From: Alan Fry
- 6a.
- Directories From: Jeannie
- 6b.
- Re: Directories From: James Robertson
- 6c.
- Re: Directories From: Denver Dan
- 6d.
- Re: Directories From: James Robertson
- 6e.
- Re: Directories From: Otto Nikolaus
- 7.1.
- Re: 3 From: Otto Nikolaus
- 7.2.
- Re: 3 From: Dave Sherlock
- 7.3.
- Re: 3 From: Jeannie
- 7.4.
- Re: 3 From: Otto Nikolaus
- 7.5.
- Re: 3 From: Otto Nikolaus
- 7.6.
- Re: 3 From: James Robertson
- 8a.
- Woe Is Me Mac Meltdown From: Denver Dan
- 8b.
- Re: Woe Is Me Mac Meltdown From: Richie Z
- 8c.
- Re: Woe Is Me Mac Meltdown From: Denver Dan
- 9a.
- iDefrag 2 News From: Denver Dan
- 9b.
- Re: iDefrag 2 News From: Steve B.
- 10.
- Apple releases iTunes 10.5.1, Match is available now From: Bill Boulware
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Firefox Printing
Posted by: "Ken K" kkwoodhill@gmail.com woodhill69
Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:45 am (PST)
Thanks for the comments.
1. The printer driver, etc. are fine. Printing from firefox is the only
problem.
2. I've tried printing from the firefox menu and with "Print" buttons on
the webpage. Usually it's when I want a hard copy of an order
confirmation, payment receipt, or some other transaction.
It's definitely firefox - I can print from safari, but I really prefer ff
(which I know may be heresy in this group - LOL!)
Ken
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Re: help with new computer
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:47 am (PST)
It's hard to combine two sets of data. There's no easy solution for that, so plan for this now. You likely need to go app to app as sharing or syncing data is an app by app problem.
For essential services, try shifting to a "cloud" service or synchronized app for the time being and then "catch up" when you get your other system back. For instance, when my laptop was gone for a week (MB repair as a matter of fact), I used my Time Machine backup and Migration Assistant to move my user to another machine. I think having the same user on both machines was very helpful as my environment was completely familiar and minimized the creation of permissions problems.
However, while I was on that "temp" machine, I was very careful not to do any work I would have difficulty moving back. I had no plan to move the user back to the old machine and I did not move everything. If I had moved absolutely everything, I might have created an entirely new Time Machine backup and then moved back the same way. BUT I learned something very important. Time Machine will NOT recognize the moved user as the same user (presumably it knows that it's a different machine). You will need to create an entirely new backup. I highly suggest you do NOT overwrite your old version of the user to do this, so you may need two backup drives.
I used my mail service Web client and was careful not to delete or move anything I would want in Mail later. I worked with data on external drives, making it easy to isolate. I stopped using iCal and relied entirely on my Google Calendar (which syncs with iCal). I already use a bookmark syncing app (Xmarks) so I was not concerned with that, but I don't care much about bookmarks anyway. I did not install any new apps or reconfigure anything. In other words, I had a plan for every app that might generate data.
iPhoto and iTunes might be difficult to manage if you do significant work there. These apps don't "share" or "sync" well. You should move the entire "library" and then move it back if you must work on different machines. See knowledge base for best ways of doing this. Maybe iCloud would solve this, but setting that up last minute is probably not so easy.
I was actually quite surprised how little data I generated in a week. I found that I cut back on computer use and shifted to other tasks, or tasks that did not generate new data. When I got my laptop back, I opened up Mail and downloaded everything and sorted it out. iCal resynced with Google Calendar. I copied what data I had on externals.
Hope that helps a bit. Go app by app. Can you use a cloud based version? Can you sync that app? Can you use backup and restore to move and then move back? And so on.
Cheers,
tod
On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Greg Roberts wrote:
> I have a MBP and been having problems with it, two logic boards replaced and almost three weeks at apple for three repairs this year. I am having problems with it again while using my hard drives hooked up via FW. Getting kernel problems. My plan is to take the MBP back to Apple, but have purchased another computer to supplement. I'm buying an 27" iMac, with two drives. I am reluctant to migrate the info on my other computer. I have all the disks for the software, except my apps, like iPhoto and Final Cut Pro X. Can anyone give me some advise about combining the info on both machines.
>
> Both computers will still be used after this, one for location and the other in my office.
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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Re: help with new computer
Posted by: "OBrien" bco@hiwaay.net conorboru
Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:54 am (PST)
>> Can anyone give me some advise about combining the info on both machines.
Maybe, you could use Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) to do this.
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- 3a.
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Re: time machine backup
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:52 am (PST)
I don't think so. Time Machine is designed to be completely automatic and assumes the use of an external drive.
If you want to back up over the network, you should get a backup utility designed to do this. It is, in fact, a significantly more "difficult" task for the software for a number of reasons. I'm sorry that I can't recommend. Normally I would recommend Carbon Copy, but even Carbon Copy could not historically backup over the network. Might be worth checking if it can now.
I'm sure there are apps that can. Google backup apps.
tod
On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:32 PM, bobbystar wrote:
> I want to do a backup of my Macbook Pro using Time Machine.
>
> Is there a way to do a backup over my network to a hard disk attached to a Compaq desktop via a USB connection? The Compaq is running Windows XP.
>
> I am hoping to avoid hooking the external drive to my Macbook as it is usually attached to the Compaq.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bobby
>
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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Re: time machine backup
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:24 am (PST)
CCC can back up to disk images on a network. We do this routinely to a NAS.
<http://help.bombich.com/ >kb/dmg-and- remote/backing- up-to-a-disk- image
I couldn't get TM to work with the NAS, though, even though it is supposed
to be TM-compatible.
Otto
On 14 November 2011 13:52, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com > wrote:
> I don't think so. Time Machine is designed to be completely automatic and
> assumes the use of an external drive.
>
> If you want to back up over the network, you should get a backup utility
> designed to do this. It is, in fact, a significantly more "difficult" task
> for the software for a number of reasons. I'm sorry that I can't
> recommend. Normally I would recommend Carbon Copy, but even Carbon Copy
> could not historically backup over the network. Might be worth checking if
> it can now.
>
> I'm sure there are apps that can. Google backup apps.
>
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Re: faster DNS 21% via namebench
Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com todhop
Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:00 am (PST)
I just tried Namebench and realized another issue to be careful about. Namebench tests "currently accessible" DNS servers. If you are on a laptop, this might be a problem. I move from home to work daily. The fastest at home is my ISP's DNS, but this will not be available at work. I can put it in the list, but not sure if I will take a performance hit at work as it tries that DNS, fails, and then moves to the next in the list.
What I did (so far) was put the local DNS first, then the two fastest public DNS services (Google and OpenDNS). Then I will run the same test at work and see what happens. Eventually, I will likely have four DNS servers listed. Home, work, and two public DNS servers.
And finally, the DNS servers for every network config have to be set differently. If you always use "automatic" there's not problem, but if you sometimes force a profile change, you might want to configure each accordingly. I have a "home" profile and a "work" profile, though I don't always use them. I can optimize home for home, work for work, and make the automatic profile more generic.
Anyway, it's complicated...
Cheers,
tod
On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Rob Frankel wrote:
> At the risk of seeming too elementary, once Namebench specifies a DNS
> server, is it as simple as pasting that DNS into the field in Network
> System Preferences to achieve the faster performance?
>
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> http://www.robfrankelblog.com
>
Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
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New Namebench Question(s)
Posted by: "Guy Kudlemyer" gwkuddles@comcast.net truckersroost
Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:54 am (PST)
Hello:
I have been reading with interest about Namebench. However, I雋 running
10.4.11 on a PPC Mac. The FAQ page at the Namebench website says this:
namebench fails to start on Mac OS X 10.4
The default Mac user interface requires Mac OS X 10.5 or higher. As a
workaround, you can download the namebench source code, open Terminal.app,
and type the following to launch the Tk GUI:
I_LOVE_TK=1 ./namebench.py
I靶e never done anything like this before and am scared to death to try. Is
this safe? Is it difficult? Is there a way to keep myself from screwing this
up? What if I DO screw it up; Is it difficult to fix? Will I make my Mac
unuseable?
Please help if you can. I雋 afraid to go it alone!
Guy
Thurston, Oregon
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Re: New Namebench Question(s)
Posted by: "Alan Fry" ajf@afco.demon.co.uk alanjohnfry
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:05 am (PST)
On 14 Nov 2011, at 15:54, Guy Kudlemyer wrote:
> As a workaround, you can download the namebench source code, open Terminal.app,
> and type the following to launch the Tk GUI:
>
> I_LOVE_TK=1 ./namebench.py
>
> I�e never done anything like this before and am scared to death to try. Is
> this safe? Is it difficult? Is there a way to keep myself from screwing this
> up? What if I DO screw it up; Is it difficult to fix? Will I make my Mac
> unuseable?
>
> Please help if you can. I� afraid to go it alone!
If it is any consolation I have given it a try and the python script 'namebench.py' compiles and runs happily on my machine without any problems. Admittedly mine is an Intel machine running 10.6.8, but I would not expect problems on a PPC machine.
Is it difficult? Really not. When you download the source code it will arrive in a '.tgz' file which you unzip with a double click. In the folder 'namebench - 1.3.1' you will find the file 'namebench.py'. For the moment leave the folder on your Desktop.
Launch 'Terminal' and type 'I_LOVE_TK=1 ' (without the quotes but note the space after the 1) and then drag the file 'namebench.py' onto the Terminal window and hit the 'return' key.
Alternatively, you can of course merely double click the file 'namebench.py' and it will run, but without the GUI window.
You won't screw it up and the chance of rendering your Mac unusable is as close to zero as you can get.
Have fun!
Alan Fry
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Directories
Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com chloe898
Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:22 am (PST)
Now that you all have pointed the way to my creating folders without a
password, by using my home directory. I have been trying to find out about
directories and their uses. It seems to me That having to use a directory
for creating and deleting folders without using a password is more
complicated than just creating a folder on my main hard drive would be. As
a photographer, I use lots of folders in and out, Two per shoot.
I have looked in my book, on line with Google and apple support, and I
can't seem to find anything that explains their use.
Can someone explain why this system is on Macs, and why Lion insists I use
either a password, or use my home directory. At least now, thanks to this
group, I know what it is, and how to get to it.
Thanks,
Jeannie
--
Jeannie
View my images :
http://www.pbase.com/nikonjeannie
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Re: Directories
Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net jamesrob328i
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:04 am (PST)
On Nov 14, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Jeannie wrote:
> Can someone explain why this system is on Macs, and why Lion insists I use
> either a password, or use my home directory. At least now, thanks to this
> group, I know what it is, and how to get to it.
My guess is that you're just not grasping a concept that also exists on Windows machines, namely that everyone who uses the machine needs his/her own protected space (that's your "home" directory or your own "user" directory -- (they're the same thing).
You and everyone else who has a user account on your computer each has such a directory, and they can configure it how they like. So, for example, you might both use Microsoft Word for your Word Processor. You might want Word to open with a specific configuration of toolbars, default fonts, available stationery, and add-ins. Your husband might want those options configured completely differently. Both Windows and Mac (and any other UNIX system, which the Mac OS is based on), permit such configuration.
You use Lightroom, apparently. Let's say your husband does, too. When you launch Lightroom, you probably don't want to look at his pictures. When you launch your email client, you don't want to read his email. Having a "space" for each user allows you to install programs once, but configure their preferences and the places you store the data you create or import using those programs to your own liking. Once you configure your user account (which you must have done when you configured your Macintosh using the Setup Assistant or Migration Assistant), you created that space. When you're logged in, you can create new folders anywhere within your user space without entering passwords again. If you're asked to give a password when creating a folder, that means you're trying to create the folder outside your user space, which you probably don't want to do.
On the other hand, when you install a new program, you typically would want it to be available to anyone who uses your computer. The Mac's "Applications" folder isn't inside any one individual's user space, and in order to install a program you need to provide a password to place it in the Applications folder.
It's really a simple hierarchy. Each user has his or her own Documents, Downloads, Pictures, Movies, Music, etc., folders, and each user can add more to his/her heart's delight.
Forgive me if I'm telling you things you already know, but your statement that you need to use a password just to create a folder tells me you're trying to create it in a place you'll likely regret later.
--
Jim Robertson
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Re: Directories
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:07 am (PST)
Howdy.
First, "directory" and "folder" mean the same thing. Mac users have
traditionally always used the term "folder" while other system use the
term "directory." However, with the advent of a graphic OS and the
copying of the folder visual idea by Microsoft the term "folder" is now
often used on many systems.
The Home "directory" on Mac OS X is your User Account.
You are using terms in a somewhat inaccurate manner. For example, you
mention in your message, "That having to use a directory for creating
and deleting folders without using a password is more
complicated than just creating a folder on my main hard drive would
be."
What do you mean by your "main hard drive?" Do you mean just open
the hard drive icon and create a new folder?
This is not a very good way to organize things particular as the number
of folders keeps growing to hundreds and then thousands. Certainly not
as the reason for the new folders such as correspondence, saved email
as text files, financial info, wills, pictures of all kinds also keeps
growing.
My Mac has thousands of folders that I've created over the years. If
they were all at the root level of the hard drive I couldn't find
anything easily.
The "root" level is the one that has Applications, Library, System, and
Users folders that are created by the system installer.
You can have several user accounts on the same Mac and each one
requires a user account name and password to access. You can log in to
these different user accounts. This is a security thing and keeps
files in your own user account separate and private from the files in
other user accounts such as one for a child or perhaps an employee.
This means that you need to create folders and sub folders in your own
user account for your use.
Apple creates each user account with a basic structure of folders that
are used by certain programs such as Music for iTunes or Movies or
Pictures or Downloads.
Note that your own user account has a Desktop folder. This means that
any file on your Desktop is a part of this Desktop folder and you can
access it from the Desktop or from the Desktop folder in your user
account.
Public folder in your user account is just that. It's a place where
Macs on your network can put a file for you or others to see and use.
If you put a file in Public, those other Macs can see it.
You can create new folders in your own User Account but you can't in
someone else's user account (unless that someone has given you his/her
password or unless you know the password because you created the
account as with a small child, e.g., a restricted account).
For example, in my Documents folder, I have a slew of sub folders for
all kinds of things. Correspondence, financial files, notes, humor, a
folder for Email messages that I've saved as text files such as emailed
invoices for software and hardware purchases, emails with registration
codes and activation codes and proof of purchase.
I have my Pictures folder sub divided in many folders that I've
created. One for current "Pix to Sort & Name" and others for pictures
of places and events of particular interest to me such as family
pictures, friends pictures, pictures I've uploaded to my MobileMe
albums and iPhone.
To take best advantage of all of these folders and to make it
convenient, easy, and fast to access them, you can make aliases of
folders and put the aliases in a variety of places as a shortcut to the
folder.
For example, you could put an alias of Pictures/Pix to Sort & Name on
your Desktop, and drag it to the Dock, also drag it to the Toolbar, and
drag it to the Sidebar.
This means that a single click on any of these icons on Dock, Toolbar,
Desktop, Sidebar will open Pix to sort & Name instantly.
Note that there is a Make Alias command under the Finder>File menu.
This makes an alias file and you can put this alias file anywhere you
like - even on a different Macintosh on your network - and it remembers
the way to get to the original icon/file/folder.
Note also that if you drag an icon (a file or folder or application
icon) to the Dock, to the Sidebar, to the Toolbar it makes the "alias"
automatically. So DO NOT make an alias and then drag the alias to the
Dock, Sidebar, or Toolbar since this is unnecessary and sometimes
confusing.
For great convenience, I also suggest trying the Column View for Finder
windows. You can pretty easily drag files and folders and icons around
singly or in groups in Column View without having to open other
windows.
It helps to know that you can also press the Command key and
double-click a Folder that is visible in a Finder window and it will
open that Folder in a separate window which is sometimes convenient.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:22:00 -0700, Jeannie wrote:
> Now that you all have pointed the way to my creating folders without a
> password, by using my home directory. I have been trying to find out about
> directories and their uses. It seems to me That having to use a directory
> for creating and deleting folders without using a password is more
> complicated than just creating a folder on my main hard drive would be. As
> a photographer, I use lots of folders in and out, Two per shoot.
>
> I have looked in my book, on line with Google and apple support, and I
> can't seem to find anything that explains their use.
>
> Can someone explain why this system is on Macs, and why Lion insists I use
> either a password, or use my home directory. At least now, thanks to this
> group, I know what it is, and how to get to it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeannie
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Re: Directories
Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net jamesrob328i
Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:22 am (PST)
On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Jeannie wrote:
> Thanks for your explanation. I am the only one on my computer, as my husband has his own.
>
> I would still prefer to just put my folders right on my Mac hard drive, and just take them off from there, even if I have to use a password, as I really can not grasp the danger of doing other wise. That is what I always did on my windows machines, and also did on this mac pro with Snow Leopard.
Actually, I'm pretty certain you didn't do that in Snow Leopard (or Windows), unless when you set up the Mac you created yourself as an admin user and ignored the advice to create a password to gain access to the machine. Even then, I don't think Snow Leopard would allow you to create new folders (as Denver Dan has stated, folders and directories are actually the same thing) on the root directory of the hard drive, nor will Windows. Also, as Denver Dan has stated, you may think you're on the root directory when you're not. The best example of this is the "Desktop." Many people think this is the "whole" computer, but it's not. It's the top level of YOUR user space, with some things thrown in that everyone has (password limited) access to (the root "Library" folder, the root "Applications" folder, the root "System" folder, etc.
If you and your husband both used the same computer, it's likely that your desktops would look dramatically different, right down to the the icons shown in the Dock. Certainly the document and folders icons shown on the Desktop would be different (customized for you or for him).
I know you've said this isn't important to you, but let's say someone comes to visit, has desperate need to look up something on the web, and begs to use your computer. The way a Mac is supposed to be set up, you log out of your user space, your guest logs in to the "Guest" account, and he/she can do what he/she needs without putting any of your stuff at risk or seeing any of your stuff he doesn't need to see.
Or, let's say you decide to get a new Mac and bequeath this one to your husband, a friend, a child, or the local photographers club. No problem: just delete your user account, and all your stuff will be gone, but all the applications installed on the computer will still be available to the new owners.
I can think of NO reason why someone would want to force the computer to be organized the way you think you want it to be, any more than I can think of why anyone would want to drive a front wheeled drive car with the right rear tire missing because it won't drag on the ground unless you turn left really quickly.
--
Jim Robertson
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Re: Directories
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:25 pm (PST)
On 14 November 2011 19:22, James Robertson <jamesrob@sonic.net > wrote:
>
> Actually, I'm pretty certain you didn't do that in Snow Leopard (or
> Windows), unless when you set up the Mac you created yourself as an admin
> user and ignored the advice to create a password to gain access to the
> machine. Even then, I don't think Snow Leopard would allow you to create
> new folders (as Denver Dan has stated, folders and directories are actually
> the same thing) on the root directory of the hard drive, nor will Windows.
> Also, as Denver Dan has stated, you may think you're on the root directory
> when you're not. The best example of this is the "Desktop." Many people
> think this is the "whole" computer, but it's not. It's the top level of
> YOUR user space, with some things thrown in that everyone has (password
> limited) access to (the root "Library" folder, the root "Applications"
> folder, the root "System" folder, etc.
>
> If you and your husband both used the same computer, it's likely that your
> desktops would look dramatically different, right down to the the icons
> shown in the Dock. Certainly the document and folders icons shown on the
> Desktop would be different (customized for you or for him).
>
> I know you've said this isn't important to you, but let's say someone
> comes to visit, has desperate need to look up something on the web, and
> begs to use your computer. The way a Mac is supposed to be set up, you log
> out of your user space, your guest logs in to the "Guest" account, and
> he/she can do what he/she needs without putting any of your stuff at risk
> or seeing any of your stuff he doesn't need to see.
>
> Or, let's say you decide to get a new Mac and bequeath this one to your
> husband, a friend, a child, or the local photographers club. No problem:
> just delete your user account, and all your stuff will be gone, but all the
> applications installed on the computer will still be available to the new
> owners.
>
> I can think of NO reason why someone would want to force the computer to
> be organized the way you think you want it to be, any more than I can think
> of why anyone would want to drive a front wheeled drive car with the right
> rear tire missing because it won't drag on the ground unless you turn left
> really quickly.
>
>
See my reply in the other thread. That was also my belief and I was wrong.
I have just created a folder directly under Macintosh HD. For good measure
I also created a folder under that, and tested access by moving a file into
that lower folder. Of course, mine is an admin user.
I think it's bad practice, though.
Otto
OS X 10.5.8
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Re: 3
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:02 am (PST)
Jeannie,
I'm a bit surprised. Were you really able to place folders wherever you
liked on the C: drive? Weren't you limited to using My Documents?
(Note: Macintosh HD is equivalent to C:)
Otto
On 13 November 2011 21:59, Jeannie <nikonjeannie@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hi Brent,
> The LR import panel,is the short way of my saying Lightroom Import panel.
> Just now , I was able to get that test folder that I set up in the Home
> section to show in the import dialog in Lightroom, by clicking on select a
> source, then I was able to get to that ne folder. I had been a windows
> user for about 15 years, so I just continued to put folders on my hard
> drive. Now Lion has taught me, with your help, that I have to do it another
> way, although I am not sure for the reasoning.
>
> Thanks again to you and all that helped. No book, and nothing on line put
> me in the know, but you all did.
>
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Re: 3
Posted by: "Dave Sherlock" dsherlock.geo@yahoo.com dsherlock.geo
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:40 am (PST)
Otto,
Yes anywhere on the C: drive or another drive in the PC. Moving to Mac has been a whole new learning experience.
Regards, Dave
Sent from my 鵃�iPad
On Nov 14, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail. > wrote:com
> Jeannie,
>
> I'm a bit surprised. Were you really able to place folders wherever you
> liked on the C: drive? Weren't you limited to using My Documents?
>
> (Note: Macintosh HD is equivalent to C:)
>
> Otto
>
> On 13 November 2011 21:59, Jeannie <nikonjeannie@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Hi Brent,
> > The LR import panel,is the short way of my saying Lightroom Import panel.
> > Just now , I was able to get that test folder that I set up in the Home
> > section to show in the import dialog in Lightroom, by clicking on select a
> > source, then I was able to get to that ne folder. I had been a windows
> > user for about 15 years, so I just continued to put folders on my hard
> > drive. Now Lion has taught me, with your help, that I have to do it another
> > way, although I am not sure for the reasoning.
> >
> > Thanks again to you and all that helped. No book, and nothing on line put
> > me in the know, but you all did.
> >
>
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>
>
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Re: 3
Posted by: "Jeannie" nikonjeannie@gmail.com chloe898
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:45 am (PST)
I never had to use my documents, just put the folders directly on my C
drive, and then when I was done with the raw folder from the shoot, deleted
it with no trouble,and then sent the finished folder to all the photo
drives...and that was what I did when I got the mac pro last January with
Snow Leopard..and it worked fine for my needs.
Jeannie
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Otto Nikolaus <
otto.nikolaus@googlemail. > wrote:com
> Jeannie,
>
> I'm a bit surprised. Were you really able to place folders wherever you
> liked on the C: drive? Weren't you limited to using My Documents?
>
> (Note: Macintosh HD is equivalent to C:)
>
> Otto
>
> On 13 November 2011 21:59, Jeannie <nikonjeannie@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Hi Brent,
> > The LR import panel,is the short way of my saying Lightroom Import
> panel.
> > Just now , I was able to get that test folder that I set up in the Home
> > section to show in the import dialog in Lightroom, by clicking on select
> a
> > source, then I was able to get to that ne folder. I had been a windows
> > user for about 15 years, so I just continued to put folders on my hard
> > drive. Now Lion has taught me, with your help, that I have to do it
> another
> > way, although I am not sure for the reasoning.
> >
> > Thanks again to you and all that helped. No book, and nothing on line put
> > me in the know, but you all did.
> >
>
>
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>
>
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Re: 3
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:57 am (PST)
Anywhere? In a System folder? In another user's folder structure?
Otto
On 14 November 2011 18:40, Dave Sherlock <dsherlock.geo@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Otto,
> Yes anywhere on the C: drive or another drive in the PC. Moving to Mac has
> been a whole new learning experience.
>
>
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Re: 3
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:10 pm (PST)
Apologies. It never occurred to me to create folders outside of my Home
folder, and I assumed it could not be done anyway. Having just tried it, I
now know I was wrong.
I think it's bad practice, though, and creates all sorts of issues when it
comes to backups.
Otto
OS X 10.5.8
On 14 November 2011 18:45, Jeannie <nikonjeannie@gmail.com > wrote:
> I never had to use my documents, just put the folders directly on my C
> drive, and then when I was done with the raw folder from the shoot, deleted
> it with no trouble,and then sent the finished folder to all the photo
> drives...and that was what I did when I got the mac pro last January with
> Snow Leopard..and it worked fine for my needs.
>
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Re: 3
Posted by: "James Robertson" jamesrob@sonic.net jamesrob328i
Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:18 pm (PST)
On Nov 14, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> Apologies. It never occurred to me to create folders outside of my Home
> folder, and I assumed it could not be done anyway. Having just tried it, I
> now know I was wrong.
Otto,
If I try to create a folder at my root directory, I'm asked for my password, and I'm an admin user. Is it not the same in Windows?
--
Jim Robertson
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Woe Is Me Mac Meltdown
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:22 am (PST)
Howdy.
Apologies for not participating much the past week.
Yeah, another long message.
I was on a trip to NYC and then to Amish/Pennsylvania Dutch country
around Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Nice trip.
When I returned last Friday I booted my MacPro (Lion 10.7.2) and
downloaded a good sized batch of Google email messages.
Later another batch began to download and at about the 200th message my
GyazMail program just stopped responding.
Then the Finder stopped responding.
I tried to use Force Quit to quit these but it didn't work and I was
not able to launch Activity Monitor.
I did a force shut down but when Mac tried to reboot it froze at a gray
screen. The black Apple appeared, then disappeared, and then zero
progress and no booting up to Finder.
I tried may things for hours and was able to finally boot after an SMC
and Zap PRAM. After using OnyX, and doing Repair Permissions, and
doing a Safe Disk boot, I though things were back to normal but using
QuickLook cause more Finder freezes.
Couldn't boot from Lion Recovery partition. Couldn't boot from Lion
DVD install disc except one time after more SMC and PRAM resets at
which time I did a re-install of Lion while booted in Recovery.
After this re-install, Mac booted but again the same problems with
Finder and QuickLook and email.
After more restarts I was finally able to boot from a Leopard 10.5.8 OS
on a 2nd hard drive. Erased the main hard drive. Then installed Snow
Leopard on main hard drive because the damn Mac wouldn't boot from the
Lion Install DVD. Updated Snow Leopard to all the latest and greatest
versions and then installed Lion again.
Finally, today (since Friday, Saturday, Sunday), I'm pretty much mostly
back up and running normally in Lion 10.7.2.
I've had to re-install everything.
I was able to restore everything from Time Machine backup EXCEPT my
GyazMail messages. This was due to my own stupidity because I had
GyazMail message folder in Library excluded from Time Machine backup
when I was trying to figure out a Spotlight Indexing problem and forgot
to de exclude it. Oooppps as the Texan would say.
Denver Dan
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Re: Woe Is Me Mac Meltdown
Posted by: "Richie Z" hotsumatra@mac.com hotsumatra
Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:40 am (PST)
so what caused the meltdown?
regards,
.rz
On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
> Howdy.
>
> Apologies for not participating much the past week.
>
> Yeah, another long message.
>
> I was on a trip to NYC and then to Amish/Pennsylvania Dutch country
> around Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Nice trip.
>
> When I returned last Friday I booted my MacPro (Lion 10.7.2) and
> downloaded a good sized batch of Google email messages.
>
> Later another batch began to download and at about the 200th message my
> GyazMail program just stopped responding.
>
> Then the Finder stopped responding.
>
> I tried to use Force Quit to quit these but it didn't work and I was
> not able to launch Activity Monitor.
>
> I did a force shut down but when Mac tried to reboot it froze at a gray
> screen. The black Apple appeared, then disappeared, and then zero
> progress and no booting up to Finder.
>
> I tried may things for hours and was able to finally boot after an SMC
> and Zap PRAM. After using OnyX, and doing Repair Permissions, and
> doing a Safe Disk boot, I though things were back to normal but using
> QuickLook cause more Finder freezes.
>
> Couldn't boot from Lion Recovery partition. Couldn't boot from Lion
> DVD install disc except one time after more SMC and PRAM resets at
> which time I did a re-install of Lion while booted in Recovery.
>
> After this re-install, Mac booted but again the same problems with
> Finder and QuickLook and email.
>
> After more restarts I was finally able to boot from a Leopard 10.5.8 OS
> on a 2nd hard drive. Erased the main hard drive. Then installed Snow
> Leopard on main hard drive because the damn Mac wouldn't boot from the
> Lion Install DVD. Updated Snow Leopard to all the latest and greatest
> versions and then installed Lion again.
>
> Finally, today (since Friday, Saturday, Sunday), I'm pretty much mostly
> back up and running normally in Lion 10.7.2.
>
> I've had to re-install everything.
>
> I was able to restore everything from Time Machine backup EXCEPT my
> GyazMail messages. This was due to my own stupidity because I had
> GyazMail message folder in Library excluded from Time Machine backup
> when I was trying to figure out a Spotlight Indexing problem and forgot
> to de exclude it. Oooppps as the Texan would say.
>
> Denver Dan
>
--
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Re: Woe Is Me Mac Meltdown
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:04 pm (PST)
Howdy.
What went wrong?
I don't know and can only speculate.
I think there may have been several contributing factors.
I have concluded that the Unix system can be both a blessing and a
curse. Mostly a blessing of reliability due to compartmentalized
features. But this compartmentalization can also mask problems that
may have crept in and may have coasted along lazily for quite some time
and which then got triggered by other events.
Clearly something in an email download caused the meltdown to begin.
Normally this wouldn't be much of an issue but this time it was.
I suspect more than one problem was involved.
Possibly the GyazMail Library/GyazMail message folder already had one
or more problems. The Finder may have experienced some fundamental
corruption at some point.
Mac OS X does a great deal via cache files but deleting nearly all of
them didn't help clear the fundamental problems.
The corruption also prevented booting from Lion Recovery, from Lion
install DVD, and from a Snow Leopard install DVD until a lot of resets
and retries were done so something very fundamental got corrupted but,
as I speculated above, may have been around for awhile but masked by
the nature of Unix.
I'm suspicious that Lion is just not ready for prime time.
I've now installed Lion 6 times on the same computer. The first 3
installs don't count because I was troubleshooting a long-term problem
with Spotlight Indexing that began in Snow Leopard and continued into
Lion.
So I've now done 3 "real" installs of Lion and that is an all time
record for me for any Mac system going back to Macintosh System 6 a
long time ago.
I'm concerned for the Macintosh easy of use concept that may be
betrayed by Lion being probably easier to use and work with until
something like this happens. I would make an educated guess that an
average user with a lot less experience and a lot less persistence and
patience would just give up and take a similarly malfunction Mac to the
Genius Bar and say, "make it work again."
This was a difficult thing to correct.
Denver Dan
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:40:30 -0500, Richie Z wrote:
> so what caused the meltdown?
> regards,
> .rz
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iDefrag 2 News
Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:27 am (PST)
Howdy.
Rebuilding my hard drive after recent Woe Is Me meltdown I checked a
bunch of utilities and apps for more recent versions and .. . . . . .
iDefrag 2 from Coriolis is now out.
This is noteworthy because it has the new capability of being able to
defrag your boot drive WITHOUT having to boot from a different system
on a different drive and without having to make a bootable DVD system
disc with iDefrag on it.
The upgrade cost for iDefrag 2, is only $15.49 USD for owners of an
earlier iDefrag version.
I'm using it right now to do a full defrag/compact/optimize of an
external drive as a first test. Chugging along.
Denver Dan
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Re: iDefrag 2 News
Posted by: "Steve B." macosx@xebrawerx.com xebrawerx
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:49 am (PST)
Sounds like Alsoft's old Control Panel defragger in Systems 7 to 9.
Much as I like iDefrag, boy is it slow. So slow that I probably don't run it more than once per year.
I'll purchase the upgrade and see if things are improved. Appreciate the update.
Steve B.
On Nov 14, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Denver Dan wrote:
Howdy.
Rebuilding my hard drive after recent Woe Is Me meltdown I checked a
bunch of utilities and apps for more recent versions and .. . . . . .
iDefrag 2 from Coriolis is now out.
This is noteworthy because it has the new capability of being able to
defrag your boot drive WITHOUT having to boot from a different system
on a different drive and without having to make a bootable DVD system
disc with iDefrag on it.
The upgrade cost for iDefrag 2, is only $15.49 USD for owners of an
earlier iDefrag version.
I'm using it right now to do a full defrag/compact/optimize of an
external drive as a first test. Chugging along.
Denver Dan
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Apple releases iTunes 10.5.1, Match is available now
Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224
Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:58 am (PST)
Those of you with limited bandwidth and signing up for iTunes Match -
BE CAREFUL - I have only been using new version for ~36 hours but it
seems to download any song you click on, even if skipping past it so
you can rack up hundreds of mbs of usage in minutes...
http://feedproxy.google.com/ ~r/9To5Mac- MacAllDay/ ~3/Sx8mjhMgYDg/
Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple releases iTunes
10.5.1, Match is available now via 9to5Mac by Jake Smith on 11/14/11
Following the recent release of the iTunes 10.5.1 beta 3 to developers,
Apple today started pushing out iTunes 10.5.1 to the public. You should
see the update appearing in Software Update any second, otherwise it's
already available for download from Apple's site here.
Apple also confirmed the availability of iTunes Match in the U.S., with
the following announcement on their iTunes page. iTunes Match syncs
users' music to iCloud for $24.99 a year. Unlimited songs can be synced
and doesn't affect iCloud storage, but only songs that are available on
iTunes can be synced.
Even though it is available to the public, Apple is still labeling
iTunes Match as a beta product. Developers who tested Match will still
receive a free three months with a year subscription.
Today, Apple has also released a Thunderbolt Software Update that
addresses random black screens on the Thunderbolt Display and brings
improvements to other Thunderbolt devices. Hit up Software Update to
download.
Related articles
- Apple seeds iTunes 10.5.1 beta 3 with fixes to continue iTunes Match
testing (9to5mac.com)
- iTunes Match libraries to be wiped tomorrow, November 12th as launch
nears (9to5mac.com)
- Apple seeds iTunes 10.5.1 beta to developers with iTunes Match beta
(9to5mac.com)
- Apple releases iTunes 10.5.1 Beta 2 to developers, featuring iTunes
Match for Apple TV (9to5mac.com)
- As launch nears, Apple plans iTunes Match iCloud library reset for
Sept. 26 (9to5mac.com)
- Apple fails to keep promise of launching iTunes Match by end of
October (9to5mac.com)
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