Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Throttling From: Brent
- 1b.
- Re: Throttling From: Bill Sardone
- 1c.
- Re: Throttling From: Golden One 7
- 1d.
- Re: Throttling From: Bob
- 1e.
- Re: Throttling From: Tequila Allen
- 1f.
- Re: Throttling From: Dave Balcom
- 1g.
- Re: Throttling From: Barry Warfield
- 1h.
- Re: Throttling From: Jim Saklad
- 1i.
- Re: Throttling From: Jim Saklad
- 1j.
- Re: Throttling From: Jim Saklad
- 1k.
- Re: Throttling From: whiterabbit32@gmail.com
- 1l.
- Re: Throttling From: Paul Deyo
- 1m.
- Re: Throttling From: Golden One 7
- 1n.
- Re: Throttling From: fogkeebler
- 1o.
- Re: Throttling From: Clarke Jesse
- 1p.
- Re: Throttling From: David Brostoff
- 2a.
- Re: A way around "Message only partially downloaded" ? From: N.A. Nada
- 3a.
- Reading Email From: Joan Clarke
- 3b.
- Re: Reading Email From: Paul Deyo
- 3c.
- Re: Reading Email From: Clarke Jesse
- 3d.
- Re: Reading Email From: Paul Deyo
- 4a.
- Re: Bookmark Bar iOS 5.0.1 From: whiterabbit32@gmail.com
- 5a.
- Docking Stands From: Michael Moloney
- 5b.
- Re: Docking Stands From: Bill Sardone
- 6a.
- looking for an app From: pabitra saha
Messages
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com flapdoodle44
Mon Jan 2, 2012 1:30 pm (PST)
Do you know how much data you used to get into the 5%?
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Bill Sardone <wsardone@att.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Team,
>
> Well.I can't remember when I was in the top 5% of anything.but AT&T sent
> me an email that I was in that range of usage around the 29th of December.
> (I am on unlimited)
>
> They said they will start slowing my speeds next month if it happens again.
>
> Or, I could buy a tiered plan and pay for speed.or go wifi.
>
> I am staying with unlimited.
>
> The pressure
>
> Bill
>
>
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Bill Sardone" wsardone@att.net wsardone
Mon Jan 2, 2012 1:37 pm (PST)
since am unlimited...I have never watched it...nor reset it by cycle
I just checked now and it says
Sent 2.3GB
Received 10.8GB
But I don't know what the starting timeframe is/was
Thanks
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. [mailto:apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. ] Oncom
Behalf Of Brent
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 4:30 PM
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Throttling
Do you know how much data you used to get into the 5%?
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Bill Sardone <wsardone@att.net > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Team,
>
> Well.I can't remember when I was in the top 5% of anything.but AT&T sent
> me an email that I was in that range of usage around the 29th of December.
> (I am on unlimited)
>
> They said they will start slowing my speeds next month if it happens
again.
>
> Or, I could buy a tiered plan and pay for speed.or go wifi.
>
> I am staying with unlimited.
>
> The pressure
>
> Bill
>
>
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Golden One 7" gryone77@yahoo.com gryone77
Mon Jan 2, 2012 2:02 pm (PST)
It is amazing that on unlimited it is not truly "unlimited"
It sounds more like a way to pressure you to give up the plan. Does anyone know when a "5%" notice will come. At what point do you hit this marker?
On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:34 PM, "Bill Sardone" <wsardone@att.net > wrote:
> since am unlimited...I have never watched it...nor reset it by cycle
>
> I just checked now and it says
>
> Sent 2.3GB
> Received 10.8GB
>
> But I don't know what the starting timeframe is/was
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. [mailto:apple-iphone@com yahoogroups. ] Oncom
> Behalf Of Brent
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 4:30 PM
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Throttling
>
> Do you know how much data you used to get into the 5%?
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Bill Sardone <wsardone@att.net > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > Well.I can't remember when I was in the top 5% of anything.but AT&T sent
> > me an email that I was in that range of usage around the 29th of December.
> > (I am on unlimited)
> >
> > They said they will start slowing my speeds next month if it happens
> again.
> >
> > Or, I could buy a tiered plan and pay for speed.or go wifi.
> >
> > I am staying with unlimited.
> >
> > The pressure
> >
> > Bill
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Bob" krogen42@comcast.net Nordhavn46
Mon Jan 2, 2012 2:22 pm (PST)
The annoying thing about this to 5% stuff is that it's a slippery slope. If
AT&T is successful in getting folks to cut back on data usage or to go to
other plans, the amount of data it takes to get to the top 5% goes down.
Eventually, it could start affecting today's "nominal" users.
Krogen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Sardone" <wsardone@att.net >
To: <apple-iphone@yahoogroups. >com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:15 PM
Subject: [apple-iphone] Throttling
> Team,
>
> Well.I can't remember when I was in the top 5% of anything.but AT&T sent
> me an email that I was in that range of usage around the 29th of December.
> (I am on unlimited)
>
> They said they will start slowing my speeds next month if it happens
> again.
>
> Or, I could buy a tiered plan and pay for speed.or go wifi.
>
> I am staying with unlimited.
>
> The pressure
>
> Bill
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Tequila Allen" lashaunej@yahoo.com lashaunej
Mon Jan 2, 2012 2:24 pm (PST)
My husband received an email also stating we were on the top 5% we used 7GB
On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Brent <flapdoodle@gmail.com > wrote:
> Do you know how much data you used to get into the 5%?
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Bill Sardone <wsardone@att.net > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Team,
>>
>> Well.I can't remember when I was in the top 5% of anything.but AT&T sent
>> me an email that I was in that range of usage around the 29th of December.
>> (I am on unlimited)
>>
>> They said they will start slowing my speeds next month if it happens again.
>>
>> Or, I could buy a tiered plan and pay for speed.or go wifi.
>>
>> I am staying with unlimited.
>>
>> The pressure
>>
>> Bill
- 1f.
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Dave Balcom" balcy24@gmail.com balcy24
Mon Jan 2, 2012 2:30 pm (PST)
On 1/2/2012 4:19 PM, Bob wrote:
>
> The annoying thing about this to 5% stuff is that it's a slippery slope.
The really annoying thing is not providing a hard number. The "top 5%" sounds like a smoke screen.
Later,
Dave
- 1g.
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Barry Warfield" wa4uiv@yahoo.com mr_baw
Mon Jan 2, 2012 2:46 pm (PST)
My question is, what is 5% of unlimited? I received the same letter and on an unlimited plan.
B.
_____________________ _________ __
From: Dave Balcom <balcy24@gmail.com >
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Throttling
On 1/2/2012 4:19 PM, Bob wrote:
>
> The annoying thing about this to 5% stuff is that it's a slippery slope.
The really annoying thing is not providing a hard number. The "top 5%" sounds like a smoke screen.
Later,
Dave
- 1h.
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:26 pm (PST)
> It is amazing that on unlimited it is not truly "unlimited"
You seem to have a problem with correct use of the English language, not with Verizon or AT&T.
"Unlimited" means the size of your downloads is NOT LIMITED.
It makes no claim about *speed*
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
- 1i.
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:27 pm (PST)
> My question is, what is 5% of unlimited? I received the same letter and on an unlimited plan.
> B.
Irrelevant.
They are talking about ranking all of their users by the amount of data they download, and refer to the 5% of USERS using the most data.
The percentage of data is not being addressed here.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
- 1j.
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:27 pm (PST)
> My husband received an email also stating we were on the top 5% we used 7GB
My housemate streams radio programs most of her 40 hours/week at work.
She usually comes in at about 2GB/month.
I can't say I blame the carrier for trying to do something about people who use 3 times that.
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "whiterabbit32@gmail.com" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:30 pm (PST)
I've had this argument with many people. AT&T is lying to all of us. They DO NOT have unlimited Internet service. AT&T is using the word "unlimited" very wrong. Googling "unlimited", here is the meaning (http://www.answers.com/topic/ ) "having no restrictions or controls." Therefore, AT&T should not be throttling anyone with unlimited Internet service. AT&T throttles everyone. It doesn't matter if you have tiered service or unlimited. With tiered service, when you get close to the top gigs your paying for, you get throttled. What I'd like to see, is a non-threatening email from AT&T letting their customers know when they are close to using up their allotted gigs they're paying for. I want to be able to use up all I'm paying for w/o being throttled. I'm paying for it. Comcast/Xfinity does the same. It's VERY maddening. Talking to reps of either company gets you nowhere. I've tried. My hubby pays all the bills and calls the different companies when things are wrong. I had to call both AT&T and Comcast a time or two to talk throttling because he was so mad, he wouldn't have been pleasant.unlimited
Comcast goes one step further. Besides throttling, they periodically reset our modem when we're being throttled. We have a Comcast modem.
I've got AT&T for my cell service. It's great when it works. Throttling Internet on my iPhone sucks, as I'm grandfathered into their unlimited data plan.
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Barry Warfield <wa4uiv@yahoo.com > wrote:
> My question is, what is 5% of unlimited? I received the same letter and on an unlimited plan.
>
> B.
>
> _____________________ _________ __
> From: Dave Balcom <balcy24@gmail.com >
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 5:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Throttling
>
> On 1/2/2012 4:19 PM, Bob wrote:
> >
> > The annoying thing about this to 5% stuff is that it's a slippery slope.
>
> The really annoying thing is not providing a hard number. The "top 5%" sounds like a smoke screen.
>
> Later,
> Dave
>
>
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com crewcheef
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:31 pm (PST)
is this like the top 1%? or the "99%"??
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On Monday, January 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
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> > My husband received an email also stating we were on the top 5% we used 7GB
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> My housemate streams radio programs most of her 40 hours/week at work.
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> She usually comes in at about 2GB/month.
>
> I can't say I blame the carrier for trying to do something about people who use 3 times that.
>
> --
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> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com (mailto:jimdoc%40me.com)
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Golden One 7" gryone77@yahoo.com gryone77
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:46 pm (PST)
That comment sir was uncalled for.
On Jan 2, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
> > It is amazing that on unlimited it is not truly "unlimited"
>
> You seem to have a problem with correct use of the English language, not with Verizon or AT&T.
>
> "Unlimited" means the size of your downloads is NOT LIMITED.
> It makes no claim about *speed*
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~
> Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
>
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "fogkeebler" motospectra@aol.com fogkeebler
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:46 pm (PST)
So with all this talk about the LIMITED Unlimited plan I decided to check my data usage on the bill and I found something rather odd.
It seems that from Dec 30 to Jan 1 at roughly 1130 hours my phone likes to send a TON of data.
See picture here :
http://www.dfwhamradio.info/ pictures/ phone/phonedata. jpg
(in-case link gets deleted or mods kill it)
20MB on the 30th
17MB on the 31st and
4MB on the 1st
Now I know exactly where my phone was at those times and I know exactly what I was doing with it at those times. I was either asleep or watching the new years TV shows with my phone sitting on the coffee table. Anyone else seeing this kind of activity on their bills?
I bring this up here because if the Empire is going to throttle our usage because we use too much data then shouldn't we know exactly what our phones are doing? Is the Empire making them phone home with bogus data packets to trump our usage to make us switch? Now I know they cant report exactly what kind of data is being transferred but something is fishy here.
I'm running the fallowing:
IP4
iOS 5.01 (jailbroken)
For the record, phone is a brand new install of iOS v.5.01 and I have yet to install any apps on it other then a couple of game apps.
--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups. , "Bill Sardone" <wsardone@..com .> wrote:
>
> Team,
>
> Well.I can't remember when I was in the top 5% of anything.but AT&T sent me an email that I was in that range of usage around the 29th of December. (I am on unlimited)
>
> They said they will start slowing my speeds next month if it happens again.
>
> Or, I could buy a tiered plan and pay for speed.or go wifi.
>
> I am staying with unlimited.
>
> The pressure
>
> Bill
>
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "Clarke Jesse" lvjesse@yahoo.com lvjesse
Mon Jan 2, 2012 4:08 pm (PST)
I read something about this on a tech website. That's not good PR. If you offer people unlimited use, how do you get off by "punishing" them for using it? A back door way to force people out of their unlimited plans.
Jesse,
>____________________ _________ ___
> From: Bill Sardone <wsardone@att.net >
>To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 1:15 PM
>Subject: [apple-iphone] Throttling
>
>
>
>Team,
>
>Well.I can't remember when I was in the top 5% of anything.but AT&T sent me an email that I was in that range of usage around the 29th of December. (I am on unlimited)
>
>They said they will start slowing my speeds next month if it happens again.
>
>Or, I could buy a tiered plan and pay for speed.or go wifi.
>
>I am staying with unlimited.
>
>The pressure
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
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Re: Throttling
Posted by: "David Brostoff" listaddr@earthlink.net dcbrostoff
Mon Jan 2, 2012 5:02 pm (PST)
At 3:30 PM -0800 1/2/12, whiterabbit32@gmail.com wrote:
>Comcast goes one step further. Besides throttling, they periodically
>reset our modem when we're being throttled. We have a Comcast modem.
Just curious--did they notify you before they started throttling?
Davi
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Re: A way around "Message only partially downloaded" ?
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Mon Jan 2, 2012 1:46 pm (PST)
On Jan 2, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Pabitra Saha wrote:
> One can have maximum 200 messages and 4 line preview on iPhone 4 with original OS. There is no method of increasing memory of initial message download. One has to press " download the rest". It is a bug which bothers those who download when in wifi hotspot zone and read later but do not wish to use cellular data.
Update to iOS 5, you can download the 1,000 recent messages, just figure on being there for a while.
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Reading Email
Posted by: "Joan Clarke" lvjesse@yahoo.com lvjesse
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:44 pm (PST)
I can no longer view/read email by turning my phone horizontally. It stays in portrait position. How do I fix it? It was working either way earlier. GRRR.
Jesse
Sent from my iPhone
Joan/Jesse
Out where the west gets wild
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Re: Reading Email
Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com crewcheef
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:50 pm (PST)
double click the home button then swipe all the way to the left. There is a circle button. That locks or unlocks the orientation.
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On Monday, January 2, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Joan Clarke wrote:
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> I can no longer view/read email by turning my phone horizontally. It stays in portrait position. How do I fix it? It was working either way earlier. GRRR.
> Jesse
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> Joan/Jesse
> Out where the west gets wild
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Re: Reading Email
Posted by: "Clarke Jesse" lvjesse@yahoo.com lvjesse
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:55 pm (PST)
Thanks for that info. Why don't the Geniuses tell us these little things? Especially the seniors who don't approach computers/smart phones in an intuitive way. I have scoured all my books on the iPhone...not one word about this feature.
Jesse,
>____________________ _________ ___
> From: Paul Deyo <paul.deyo@gmail.com >
>To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Reading Email
>
>
>
>double click the home button then swipe all the way to the left. There is a circle button. That locks or unlocks the orientation.
>
>--
>
>On Monday, January 2, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Joan Clarke wrote:
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>> I can no longer view/read email by turning my phone horizontally. It stays in portrait position. How do I fix it? It was working either way earlier. GRRR.
>> Jesse
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Joan/Jesse
>> Out where the west gets wild
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Re: Reading Email
Posted by: "Paul Deyo" paul.deyo@gmail.com crewcheef
Mon Jan 2, 2012 4:02 pm (PST)
you are welcome… just for info… I am a senior….
On Monday, January 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Clarke Jesse wrote:
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> Thanks for that info. Why don't the Geniuses tell us these little things? Especially the seniors who don't approach computers/smart phones in an intuitive way. I have scoured all my books on the iPhone...not one word about this feature.
>
> Jesse,
>
> >____________________ _________ ___
> > From: Paul Deyo <paul.deyo@gmail.com (mailto:paul.deyo%40gmail. com)>
> >To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups. (mailto:apple-com iphone%40yahoogr oups.com)
> >Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:49 PM
> >Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] Reading Email
> >
> >
> >
> >double click the home button then swipe all the way to the left. There is a circle button. That locks or unlocks the orientation.
> >
> >--
> >
> >On Monday, January 2, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Joan Clarke wrote:
> >
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> >> I can no longer view/read email by turning my phone horizontally. It stays in portrait position. How do I fix it? It was working either way earlier. GRRR.
> >> Jesse
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> >> Out where the west gets wild
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Re: Bookmark Bar iOS 5.0.1
Posted by: "whiterabbit32@gmail.com" whiterabbit32@gmail.com lwr0032
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:52 pm (PST)
Then what is the difference between bookmarks and bookmark bar? Both store links. If the bookmark bar can't be brought up like the iPad, why have it? Seems redundant, doesn't it?
Alice
Sent from my iPhone 4
On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:16 PM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net > wrote:
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> On Jan 1, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Alice Saunders wrote:
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> > In Safari on the iPhone, there is a place to add links to the bookmarks bar. I don't understand why it would be there if it's only an iPad setting. I can't get the bookmark bar up at all on my iPhone in Safari.
>
> There is no room for a persistent bookmark bar in the Safari window on the iPhone.
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> Like Jim said, "The "Bookmarks Bar" is only visible on the iPhone when you go to "Bookmarks"", so it is there, just not in the form you want it.
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> Brent
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Docking Stands
Posted by: "Michael Moloney" Michael.Moloney@gmail.com moloney_mj
Mon Jan 2, 2012 3:59 pm (PST)
Hi there
What are some good docking stands available for the iPhone that you guys and
girls are using?
I must say that I quite like the Kensington Powerlift BackUp and Dock:
http://store.apple.com/ au/product/ H4748LL/A? fnode=MTY1NDAzOQ
Regards,
Michael Moloney
Email: michael.moloney@gmail.com
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Re: Docking Stands
Posted by: "Bill Sardone" wsardone@att.net wsardone
Mon Jan 2, 2012 4:03 pm (PST)
Since I use otter box. None
I have not found any docking stations where this fits in
I could be missing some.
Thx
Bill
Sent from my AT&T wireless device!
On Jan 2, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "Michael Moloney" <Michael.Moloney@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hi there
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> What are some good docking stands available for the iPhone that you guys and
> girls are using?
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> I must say that I quite like the Kensington Powerlift BackUp and Dock:
> http://store.apple.com/ au/product/ H4748LL/A? fnode=MTY1NDAzOQ
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> Regards,
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> Michael Moloney
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> Email: michael.moloney@gmail.com
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looking for an app
Posted by: "pabitra saha" pksaha000@yahoo.co.uk pksaha000
Mon Jan 2, 2012 4:02 pm (PST)
I am looking for an app which will enable me to run a party quiz game and display on a wifi enabled TV.
PKS
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