2/11/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8731

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Messages In This Digest (17 Messages)

1a.
Re: I need a new scanner From: pat412255
1b.
Re: I need a new scanner From: Don
1c.
Re: I need a new scanner From: Jim Saklad
1d.
Re: I need a new scanner From: Keith Whaley
1e.
Re: I need a new scanner From: Jim Saklad
1f.
Re: I need a new scanner From: Otto Nikolaus
2a.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Terry Pogue
2b.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Doug Yelmen
2c.
Re: Lion Address Book From: Denver Dan
2d.
Re: Lion Address Book/Part II From: Doug Yelmen
3a.
Re: Apple Stock From: Harry Flaxman
4a.
Re: I need a new flatbed scanner... From: Ian Gillis
4b.
Re: I need a new flatbed scanner... From: Jim Saklad
4c.
Re: I need a new flatbed scanner... From: Ian Gillis
5a.
Re: printer question From: Louise Stewart
5b.
Re: printer question From: John Engberg
6.
Scanner Resolution question From: George Barker

Messages

1a.

Re: I need a new scanner

Posted by: "pat412255" pat412@mac.com   pat412255

Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:44 am (PST)




I bought a Canon MX870 all-in-one a few months ago on Randy Singer's recommendation & have been very pleased with it. My scanning use is light (mostly financial statements used in an accounting office), but it is simple to operate & the results are good. I found it on sale at Staples for about $100.

--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Michael Mielko <mastersoundsdjs@...> wrote:

> I want something more compact, byt the Epson V33 scanners seem like garbage in quality when I checked them out at staples. So I am also considering the cannon flatbed scanners.
>
>
> Can anyone give me some feedback on the current group of Cannon and Epson scanners (Under 150 is my budget) ... Like everything, I do know you pay for quality ... and I don't expect a 59.00 scanner to do what a 500.00 scanner will do or quality of materials used to build the units..
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike.
>

1b.

Re: I need a new scanner

Posted by: "Don" y-groups.96705@hawaiiantel.net   don.96705

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:19 am (PST)



Mike

My wedding album literally fell apart when my wife was looking at it, planning for the big five-o this fall. Black & white 8x10 prints dry mounted back to back - glue from the album on several at the binding edge, which means find an album and stick them in it won't work. Have to get them into Photoshop fast.

I have had the Canon MX870 for about 6 months. Never considered the MX870, or any AIO, to be good enough for photos. Used the MX870 as a copier a few times but never used the scanner until last week. Scanned 8x10 black & white prints at 1200 dpi with the Canon scanner driver to TIFF files. In Photoshop Lightroom the limiting factor seems to be grain in the 4x5 negatives used to make the prints.

Tried 2400 dpi but the scan fails when processing the completed scan. With a small picture 2400 works, with a postage size picture 4800 works. Maybe the TIFF file size is too big for the driver at high resolution.

Don at 21.9N 159.6W
2x2.93 GHz Mac Pro
OS X 10.7.2 6GB Ram

p.s. I still need a slide scanner - - -

On Feb 10, 2012, at 04:44, pat412255 wrote:

>
> I bought a Canon MX870 all-in-one a few months ago on Randy Singer's recommendation & have been very pleased with it. My scanning use is light ….
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, Michael Mielko <mastersoundsdjs@...> wrote:
>
>> Can anyone give me some feedback on the current group of Cannon and Epson scanners (Under 150 is my budget) ... Like everything, I do know you pay for quality ... and I don't expect a 59.00 scanner to do what a 500.00 scanner will do or quality of materials used to build the units..
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Mike.

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1c.

Re: I need a new scanner

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:58 am (PST)



> Scanned 8x10 black & white prints at 1200 dpi with the Canon scanner driver to TIFF files. In Photoshop Lightroom the limiting factor seems to be grain in the 4x5 negatives used to make the prints.
>
> Tried 2400 dpi but the scan fails when processing the completed scan. With a small picture 2400 works, with a postage size picture 4800 works. Maybe the TIFF file size is too big for the driver at high resolution.

8" X 10" X 2400 DPI * 2400 DPI = 460,800,000 pixels. Times 8 bits per pixel for grey-scale.

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1d.

Re: I need a new scanner

Posted by: "Keith Whaley" keith_w@dslextreme.com   keith9600

Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:54 pm (PST)



Jim Saklad wrote:
>> Scanned 8x10 black& white prints at 1200 dpi with the Canon
>> scanner driver to TIFF files. In Photoshop Lightroom the limiting
>> factor seems to be grain in the 4x5 negatives used to make the
>> prints.
>>
>> Tried 2400 dpi but the scan fails when processing the completed
>> scan. With a small picture 2400 works, with a postage size picture
>> 4800 works. Maybe the TIFF file size is too big for the driver at
>> high resolution.
>
> 8" X 10" X 2400 DPI * 2400 DPI = 460,800,000 pixels. Times 8 bits per
> pixel for grey-scale.
>

Your math is fine. Your point or conclusion, please?

keith

1e.

Re: I need a new scanner

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:34 pm (PST)



>>> Scanned 8x10 black & white prints at 1200 dpi with the Canon scanner driver to TIFF files. In Photoshop Lightroom the limiting factor seems to be grain in the 4x5 negatives used to make the prints.
>>>
>>> Tried 2400 dpi but the scan fails when processing the completed scan. With a small picture 2400 works, with a postage size picture 4800 works. Maybe the TIFF file size is too big for the driver at high resolution.
>>
>> 8" X 10" X 2400 DPI * 2400 DPI = 460,800,000 pixels. Times 8 bits per pixel for grey-scale.
>
> Your math is fine. Your point or conclusion, please?

"Maybe the TIFF file size is too big for the driver at high resolution."
Yes.
Or at least too large for *something*

Few programs can work well with multi-hundred-megabyte files.

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1f.

Re: I need a new scanner

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:23 pm (PST)



On 10 February 2012 22:33, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>
> "Maybe the TIFF file size is too big for the driver at high resolution."
> Yes.
> Or at least too large for *something*
>
> Few programs can work well with multi-hundred-megabyte files.
>

Well, yes, but scanning a *print* at anything above a few hundred dpi is
pointless anyway.

Otto

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2a.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:24 am (PST)



Hmmm, I've been trying to do it on my iPad. Guess that doesn't work and I'll have to delete unwanted address' on the computer.
Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 9, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Doug Yelmen <dougyelmen@earthlink.net> wrote:

> hey, Forrest. Command X didn't work for me. but it made me look with fresh eyes,
> and i got rid of everything. it does say No Name, but i can live with that.
> thanks, man.
> doug
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Forrest Leedy wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to delete entries in Lion's address book?
>>> could someone please tell me how?
>>> thanks,
>>> doug
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug Yelmen
>>> dougyelmen@earthlink.net
>>
>> After highlighting the address I use command-x and it gets rid of it for me.
>>
>> Forrest
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2b.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:26 am (PST)



Dan,
that's part of the problem. my address book doesn't have the Edit button. gone. vanished. poof.
do you really think i'd be asking if it did? yah, i see you nodding your head.
:-)

doug
On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Denver Dan wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> Doug, "delete an entry" means to me to delete the entire
> record/contact. To remove the entire item.
>
> If you wish to edit or change info in one field in a record, then first
> click the Edit button at bottom of the record page for that contact.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:57:56 -0800, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>> Is there a way to delete entries in Lion's address book?
>> could someone please tell me how?
>> thanks,
>> doug
>>
>>
>> Doug Yelmen
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2c.

Re: Lion Address Book

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:41 am (PST)



Howdy.

Doug, would you do a screen capture of your Address Book window and
send to me directly?

Please do an About the Address Book command and tell me the exact
version.

Something wrong with your Address Book (to state the obvious I'd
guess).

Have you considered deleting the .plist preference file for it?

Denver Dean

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:26:47 -0800, Doug Yelmen wrote:
> Dan,
> that's part of the problem. my address book doesn't have the Edit
> button. gone. vanished. poof.
> do you really think i'd be asking if it did? yah, i see you nodding
> your head.
> :-)
>
> doug

2d.

Re: Lion Address Book/Part II

Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net   dougyelmen

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:45 am (PST)



i think i found a work around, or maybe just the proper way of deleting entries in the Lion's address book.
there are the negative signs in red and white. click on those. manually (?) highlight the names, then delete them.
then where the names had been under All Contacts, the name/entry disappears/ it says something like No Entry in blue.
then that disappears.
success!
thanks for all help. it was such a simple fix. and i just didn't see it. i loves me apple.
long before it was the top of the heap.

doug

On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Doug Yelmen wrote:

> Dan,
> that's part of the problem. my address book doesn't have the Edit button. gone. vanished. poof.
> do you really think i'd be asking if it did? yah, i see you nodding your head.
> :-)
>
> doug
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:41 AM, Denver Dan wrote:
>
>> Howdy.
>>
>> Doug, "delete an entry" means to me to delete the entire
>> record/contact. To remove the entire item.
>>
>> If you wish to edit or change info in one field in a record, then first
>> click the Edit button at bottom of the record page for that contact.
>>
>> Denver Dan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:57:56 -0800, Doug Yelmen wrote:
>>> Is there a way to delete entries in Lion's address book?
>>> could someone please tell me how?
>>> thanks,
>>> doug
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug Yelmen
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3a.

Re: Apple Stock

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:13 am (PST)



On 2/10/2012 7:01 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> > Anyone know what's up with Apple's stock?
> Why Did Apple Pop Thursday?
> <http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/02/10/why-did-apple-pop-thursday/>

And it's still going up!

H

4a.

Re: I need a new flatbed scanner...

Posted by: "Ian Gillis" tessel.bas@gmail.com   ianjgillis

Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:20 pm (PST)



On 10 February 2012 04:52, Michael Mielko <mastersoundsdjs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone give me some feedback on the current group of Cannon and Epson scanners (Under 150 is my budget)

I had to buy a new flatbed scanner when I returned to the Mac fold as
I couldn't get drivers for Mac OS X for my old scanner. I bought a
Canon LIDE 700F - it's about 95 Euro.
It is powered entirely by the USB connection and needs no mains or
power brick. It has a gizmo for scanning negative or positive 35mm
film at up to 4800dpi which works surprisingly well. The software
enables you to scan in idiot mode or via the scanner driver with all
its bells and whistles. I think it's good value for money.
regards,
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Re: I need a new flatbed scanner...

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:36 pm (PST)



> I had to buy a new flatbed scanner when I returned to the Mac fold as I couldn't get drivers for Mac OS X for my old scanner.

Did you try VueScan?
<http://www.hamrick.com/>

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4c.

Re: I need a new flatbed scanner...

Posted by: "Ian Gillis" tessel.bas@gmail.com   ianjgillis

Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:40 am (PST)



On 10 February 2012 23:35, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:
>> I had to buy a new flatbed scanner when I returned to the Mac fold as I couldn't get drivers for Mac OS X for my old scanner.
>
> Did you try VueScan?
> <http://www.hamrick.com/>

Hi Jim,
No, because I didn't know about it - I had a touch of the red mist and
dumped the old scanner in the garbage bin.
Moral - ask Mac Support Central first - there's bound to be someone who knows!

regards,
Ian

5a.

Re: printer question

Posted by: "Louise Stewart" veggie236@earthlink.net   pudgybulldog

Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:14 pm (PST)



OK, so I cleaned the print heads and it printed out a perfect test
sheet. All the black text was black and it printed 6 solid colored
rectangles. Sooo, I thought, "Good, it's fixed." Then I printed out a
page with just a small amt of black text. It came out partly black
and partly green. When the printer is on, the 4 icons for the ink all
blink, which I think mean it's out of ink. And when I clicked "print"
I got a message that I was low on ink.

I didn't do the replacement of magenta or removing cartridges since
the print head cleaning gave a perfect sheet. Should I go ahead and
do that, anyway?

On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:32 AM, John Engberg wrote:

On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:

> I have an HP Officejet 6000. I just replaced all of my cartridges
> with HP compatible ones. I've used these in the past instead ofo HP
> one and they did fine. But this time, the printer is telling me I
> don't have any ink in the magenta one and when I print, I get a green
> print and not black. I went online to try to find some place where I
> could find out about this, but so far, haven't found how to solve
> this. Ideas?
>
> Louise
>

It could be the print head. Try replace the magenta with an OEM
cartridge and see what happens. I doubt you'll solve the problem
through software; although you could try removing all the cartridges
and powering the printer down (unplug completely). Leave it off for a
few minutes Then power it up and reinstall the cartridges. It
probably won't change anything, but you never know. Did you try
cleaning the heads?

Some printers - maybe all of them - mix colors to get black when your
printing in color. Do you have a choice in your print dialog to print
in black or gray scale, in addition to a color option? Choosing
black, if it's an option, may give you the output you're looking for;
but, of course, it won't solve the magenta problem.

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5b.

Re: printer question

Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net   mrbyte

Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:54 am (PST)




On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:16 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:

> OK, so I cleaned the print heads and it printed out a perfect test
> sheet. All the black text was black and it printed 6 solid colored
> rectangles. Sooo, I thought, "Good, it's fixed." Then I printed out a
> page with just a small amt of black text. It came out partly black
> and partly green. When the printer is on, the 4 icons for the ink all
> blink, which I think mean it's out of ink. And when I clicked "print"
> I got a message that I was low on ink.
>
> I didn't do the replacement of magenta or removing cartridges since
> the print head cleaning gave a perfect sheet. Should I go ahead and
> do that, anyway?
>

Try it, it can't hurt; but with all the lights blinking, it appears you're running close to empty on ink. That is a little strange, since you said that you had just replaced all of the cartridges. For the price of new cartridges, you could almost replace the printer.

> On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:32 AM, John Engberg wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Louise Stewart wrote:
>
>> I have an HP Officejet 6000. I just replaced all of my cartridges
>> with HP compatible ones. I've used these in the past instead ofo HP
>> one and they did fine. But this time, the printer is telling me I
>> don't have any ink in the magenta one and when I print, I get a green
>> print and not black. I went online to try to find some place where I
>> could find out about this, but so far, haven't found how to solve
>> this. Ideas?
>>
>> Louise
>>
>
> It could be the print head. Try replace the magenta with an OEM
> cartridge and see what happens. I doubt you'll solve the problem
> through software; although you could try removing all the cartridges
> and powering the printer down (unplug completely). Leave it off for a
> few minutes Then power it up and reinstall the cartridges. It
> probably won't change anything, but you never know. Did you try
> cleaning the heads?
>
> Some printers - maybe all of them - mix colors to get black when your
> printing in color. Do you have a choice in your print dialog to print
> in black or gray scale, in addition to a color option? Choosing
> black, if it's an option, may give you the output you're looking for;
> but, of course, it won't solve the magenta problem.
>
> John Engberg
>
>

6.

Scanner Resolution question

Posted by: "George Barker" lynxster@ihug.com.au   four46

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:31 pm (PST)



I thought I had a fair to middling handle on this stuff, but I'm
puzzled by the following Canon offerings on their scanners.

CanoScan LiDE 700F (Mid Level)
High quality scanning up to 9600 X 9600 dpi high resolution and
48-bit superior gradation

CanoScan 5600F (High Range)
High quality scanning up to 4800 x 9600 dpi high resolution and
48-bit superior gradation

Can someone tell me the difference between 9600 X 9600 dpi and 4800 x
9600 dpi; and why the 9600 X 9600 dpi resolution (which I'm assuming
is the superior quality?) is on the Mid Level scanner and not the
High Level.

thanks
George
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