4/08/2012

[macsupport] Digest Number 8839

Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)

1.1.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Otto Nikolaus
1.2.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Andrew Buc
1.3.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Daly Jessup
1.4.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Harry Flaxman
1.5.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Andrew Buc
1.6.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Otto Nikolaus
1.7.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Barry Austern
1.8.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Barry Austern
1.9.
Re: Resetting startup disk From: Jim Saklad
2a.
Re: Deliverance DVD/Handbrake From: Terry Pogue
3a.
Re: Flashback Followup From: Daly Jessup
3b.
Re: Flashback Followup From: paul smith
4a.
Downsizing MP3 files? From: DaveC
4b.
Re: Downsizing MP3 files? From: Otto Nikolaus
5a.
Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: Harry Flaxman
5b.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: DaveC
5c.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: Harry Flaxman
5d.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: John Engberg
5e.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: Harry Flaxman
5f.
Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie! From: DaveC
6.
Transferring mail files From: sanpanza
7a.
Sophos Anti-Virus Program From: Jim Hamm
7b.
Re: Sophos Anti-Virus Program From: Harry Flaxman
8a.
Re: HEY From: Barry Austern
9.
I playing around with Term From: Jim

Messages

1.1.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Apr 8, 2012 4:57 am (PDT)



On 8 April 2012 04:28, Jim Saklad <jimdoc@me.com> wrote:

>
> If all of the partitions show up in Disk Utility, I *strongly* doubt that
> there is any problem with the cable. Or the Firewire port on the computer,
> or the Firewire port on the external.
>
> For some reason, while the backups were made as clones, they apparently
> were not made as *bootable* clones. Why, I don't know. Are the partitions
> in fact GUID partitions and not APM ones?
>

Yes, and obviously SD wouldn't be able to make a clone in the first place
if the cable (or either FW port) were bad.

I would try making a clone with CCC (free download) and see what happens.

Otto

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1.2.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net   andrewbuc

Sun Apr 8, 2012 11:03 am (PDT)



On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> I would try making a clone with CCC (free download) and see what
> happens.

Did that this a.m. and went out for coffee while CCC did its thing.
Same outcome: on option-boot, only the internal HD shows up as bootable.

1.3.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Sun Apr 8, 2012 11:12 am (PDT)



I
On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Andrew Buc wrote:

> On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
>
>> I would try making a clone with CCC (free download) and see what
>> happens.
>
> Did that this a.m. and went out for coffee while CCC did its thing.
> Same outcome: on option-boot, only the internal HD shows up as bootable.

I think in your situation I would re-partition the disk and erase it, and re-clone.

Also, I really think you should get a second external. Having all five clones on one drive means that a drive failure would cost you ALL your backups.

Daly
1.4.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sun Apr 8, 2012 11:18 am (PDT)



On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:

> I think in your situation I would re-partition the disk and erase it, and re-clone.
>
> Also, I really think you should get a second external. Having all five clones on one drive means that a drive failure would cost you ALL your backups.

Yup, I agree. Also ensure that the repartition is specified as GUID and NOT APM. This will inhibit a boot device.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com

1.5.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net   andrewbuc

Sun Apr 8, 2012 11:39 am (PDT)



On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> Yup, I agree. Also ensure that the repartition is specified as GUID
> and NOT APM. This will inhibit a boot device.

This is a G4 iMac running Tiger. Can I even partition a drive GUID,
let alone read/write it?

1.6.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:19 pm (PDT)



On 8 April 2012 19:03, Andrew Buc <andrewbuc@staxman.net> wrote:

>
> Did that this a.m. and went out for coffee while CCC did its thing.
> Same outcome: on option-boot, only the internal HD shows up as bootable.
>

Did CCC say it would be bootable? Do any show in System Preferences >
Startup Disk?

Otto

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1.7.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:34 pm (PDT)



To the OP: Download a copy of Carbon Copy Cloner and see if **IT**
will make a bootable clone. My very-wild guess is that something is
munged with SuperDuper, possibly a preference file. If CCC does do
the trick then either stick with it or investigate SuperDuper further.

At 11:28 PM -0400 4/7/12, Jim Saklad wrote:

>
>
> > Yes, 1 physical drive, 5 partitions. To address a lot of
>different folks' points in one go:
>>
>> All volumes show up in Disk Utility. Total drive size shows as
>>298.1GB in DU. Each partition is 59.5GB with ~41GB free.
>> .....
>> After all this, the internal HD is the only drive that shows up as
>>bootable on option-boot. I'll be interested to see how I do when
>>the new FW cable arrives in the mail next week.
>>
>> I've wondered if the FW ports on the computer have gone bad, but I
>>don't think it's cost-effective to pursue this angle on a 9-y.o. G4
>>iMac. This was going to be the year I replace the computer anyway.
>
>If all of the partitions show up in Disk Utility, I *strongly* doubt
>that there is any problem with the cable. Or the Firewire port on
>the computer, or the Firewire port on the external.
>
>For some reason, while the backups were made as clones, they
>apparently were not made as *bootable* clones. Why, I don't know.
>Are the partitions in fact GUID partitions and not APM ones?
>
>--
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Jim Saklad mailto:<mailto:jimdoc%40me.com>jimdoc@me.com
>
>

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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1.8.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:54 pm (PDT)



At 11:39 AM -0700 4/8/12, Andrew Buc wrote:

>
>
>On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Harry Flaxman wrote:
>
>> Yup, I agree. Also ensure that the repartition is specified as GUID
>> and NOT APM. This will inhibit a boot device.
>
>This is a G4 iMac running Tiger. Can I even partition a drive GUID,
>let alone read/write it?

Yes. GUID is for Intel Macs. Your PowerPC machine wants the older
Apple Partition Map. However, the advice of getting another drive,
not putting all your clone eggs in one basket, and repartitioning the
drive and starting anew are both good bits of advice. As you have a
PPC machine, though, it can NOT boot from USB, and FireWire drives
are getting harder to find. Good luck.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

1.9.

Re: Resetting startup disk

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Sun Apr 8, 2012 1:33 pm (PDT)



>> I would try making a clone with CCC (free download) and see what
>> happens.
>
> Did that this a.m. and went out for coffee while CCC did its thing.
> Same outcome: on option-boot, only the internal HD shows up as bootable.

Earlier, you stated:
> Yes, 1 physical drive, 5 partitions.
> All volumes show up in Disk Utility. Total drive size shows as 298.1GB in DU. Each partition is 59.5GB with ~41GB free.

I noticed that these seem surprisingly small to me. Are you in fact backing up your whole drive?

I ask because SuperDuper! states:

> Backup – all files (highly recommended) does what it says: it creates a complete backup of the selected volume. If the source is a boot volume, this is often called a "bootable clone", and can be used to start your system in the event of a catastrophic hard drive failure.
> .....
> Backup – user files is similar, but it does not create a bootable backup. Instead, it only backs up user specific files in the Home directories of the various accounts on your system (as well as the special iSync files that are stored elsewhere in Panther). This type of backup is not bootable, since it doesn't contain operating system files, but is useful for storing copies of your personal data.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com

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2a.

Re: Deliverance DVD/Handbrake

Posted by: "Terry Pogue" tpogue@comcast.net   terrypogue_2000

Sun Apr 8, 2012 7:36 am (PDT)



Yes! Usually any DVD I get from NPR. And I can never seem to rip a disc of TV Shows which has more than 1 episode per disc. I'll download the new version of Handbrake. I'm running Lion on that computer.
Terry

Sent from my iPadHD

On Apr 8, 2012, at 12:42 AM, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Upgraded Handbrake to Version 0.9.6 x86_64 (2012022800) and worked. jr
>
> --- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com, "HAL9000" <jrswebhome@...> wrote:
>>
>> I can play the Deliverance dvd on my DVD player w TV, but I want to copy it using Handbrake. Inserting the DVD in my 27"iMac/3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo/12gigRAM/OSX6.8, and it's like the iMac is confused or extremely super slow to acquire to movie. Handbrake Version 0.9.4 x86_64 (2009112300) seems to be confused as well. It has quit a few times while trying to begin the process of taking the DVD movie into an MP$ file.
>>
>> I don't understand if there is nothing wrong w the DVD (plays fine) why is the computer having such a hard time with it? Normally any movie I want to rip, if it plays fine, then it rips fine.
>>
>> Anyone run across a reason why the DVD is baffling the computer?
>>
>> jr
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3a.

Re: Flashback Followup

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com   dalyjessup

Sun Apr 8, 2012 7:39 am (PDT)




On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:45 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> I sent this message out to my user group today. I thought that the
> folks on this discussion list might be interested in it.
>
> This is a followup to my previous message about Flashback (which, by
> the way, at this point is not technically a Trojan, since it can
> infect your computer with no warning or user interaction whatsoever,
> simply by you visiting a malicious, or just an infected, Web site.) I
> thought that everyone would appreciate more information.

Randy,

Thanks for the useful information.

A day or so ago someone (you?) posted a Terminal command to get a list of applications that are using Java. I can't find it now. Do you, or does someone else, know what that command is? And if so, would you post it again? (I promise not to lose it again!)

Daly
3b.

Re: Flashback Followup

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Sun Apr 8, 2012 11:34 am (PDT)



I saw a partial list of sites hosting the Flashback malware, and they were sites aimed primarily at folks who are fans of certain pop stars and actors. To be "elitist", none of the sites would have tempted me, or anyone I know who is over the age of 12 (physically or mentally).
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.3 iPhone 4S 64 GB, iOS 5.1

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:45 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

I've now sent out a mailing to over 9,000 subscribers of The
MacAttorney Newsletter about Flashback, and I've posted about it on a
dozen Mac discussion lists. So I've reached somewhere around 20,000
Mac users. Users have rushed to check to see if they were infected.
So far, not a single user of the many who have written back has been
infected with Flashback.

4a.

Downsizing MP3 files?

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Apr 8, 2012 7:55 am (PDT)



I've got lots of 1-hour long MP3 recordings of voices (no music) that
are 24 MB in size. iTunes tells me they are all 57 kbps bit rate and
44.0 kHz sample rate.

I would like to shrink the file size of all these. Since they're
voice and not music, I presume they can get pretty small and still
retain good quality.

What utility can I use and what are the recommended settings to get them small?

Thanks,
Dave
--
2011 Mac mini 2.7 GHz i7 / 4 GB / 750 GB
OS X 10.6.8 (yes, Snow Leopard)

4b.

Re: Downsizing MP3 files?

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Sun Apr 8, 2012 8:27 am (PDT)



First, I assume mono will be OK, so if they're stereo convert to mono and
halve the size.

Second, I think you can reduce to 32k without much loss, but why not try a
few settings before you decide?

You can use iTunes for this. Just go into iTunes > Preferences > General >
Import Settings. You'll need to use a Custom setting. Save the prefs, then
select the files to convert and right-click > Create xxx version.

Otto

On 8 April 2012 15:54, DaveC <davec2468@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've got lots of 1-hour long MP3 recordings of voices (no music) that
> are 24 MB in size. iTunes tells me they are all 57 kbps bit rate and
> 44.0 kHz sample rate.
>
> I would like to shrink the file size of all these. Since they're
> voice and not music, I presume they can get pretty small and still
> retain good quality.
>
> What utility can I use and what are the recommended settings to get them
> small?
>

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5a.

Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sun Apr 8, 2012 10:27 am (PDT)



An anti-flashback util has just surfaced in developer circles that might come in handy for some;

http://www.moritzwette.com/

Or macupdate.com

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com

5b.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Apr 8, 2012 10:56 am (PDT)



Has anyone on the list used this yet?

Dave

-=-=-=-

>An anti-flashback util has just surfaced in developer circles that
>might come in handy for some;
>
>http://www.moritzwette.com/
>
>Or macupdate.com
>
>Harry

5c.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sun Apr 8, 2012 11:15 am (PDT)



On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:56 PM, DaveC wrote:

> Has anyone on the list used this yet?

Being as I posted it, I used it. I also followed up with the Terminal commands, for the second time, to ensure nothing screwy was afoot.

Macupdate is promoting this as well.

Harry

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com

5d.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "John Engberg" mrbyte@earthlink.net   mrbyte

Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:35 pm (PDT)




On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Harry Flaxman wrote:

> An anti-flashback util has just surfaced in developer circles that might come in handy for some;
>
> http://www.moritzwette.com/
>
> Or macupdate.com
>
> Harry
>
>
> Harry Flaxman
> harry.flaxman@me.com
>

This is not an "anti"-flashback utility; it just reports if your machine is clean or not. BTW, I couldn't find it on Macupdate.com. Flashback brings up a game.

John Engberg
5e.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sun Apr 8, 2012 1:19 pm (PDT)



On Apr 8, 2012, at 3:35 PM, John Engberg wrote:

> This is not an "anti"-flashback utility; it just reports if your machine is clean or not. BTW, I couldn't find it on Macupdate.com. Flashback brings up a game.

I took it down from MacUpdate:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/42571/anti-flashback-trojan

I'm aware that it isn't 'anti' anything, however, that is how it is named.

H

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com

5f.

Re: Anti-Flashback Util - Freebie!

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Sun Apr 8, 2012 2:37 pm (PDT)



>On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:56 PM, DaveC wrote:
>
>> Has anyone on the list used this yet?
>
>Being as I posted it, I used it. I also followed up with the
>Terminal commands, for the second time, to ensure nothing screwy was
>afoot.
>
>Macupdate is promoting this as well.
>
>Harry

-=-=-=-

Thanks Harry.

I would have been easy to presume that you tried it and endorse it,
but "never presume".

I'll give it a go...

Thanks,
Dave

6.

Transferring mail files

Posted by: "sanpanza" edward@carreonphotography.com   sanpanza1

Sun Apr 8, 2012 10:43 am (PDT)



I have some system corruption and one of the symptoms is that my desktop is larger than my screen (any screen) by about 15 percent.

Apple says I needed to start from scratch and install new system and then all my applications again. Sigh....... So I did.

On the drive that I did re-install everything, the screens now behave as they should but I am having trouble getting my new mail folders to show up exactly like on the older system. All of the "On My Mac" folders seem to be missing even though I brought ALL my mail folder over.

Any thoughts on how to go about doing this? Once again, I have already brought over the "Mail" folder in the library of the users folder, replacing it with the newly install mail folder.

Your thought would be helpful.

7a.

Sophos Anti-Virus Program

Posted by: "Jim Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:36 pm (PDT)



With all the recent discussions about the Flashback Trojan and other
malware that might affect a Mac, I'm considering installing and using
the subject anti-virus program.

I'd appreciate comments from readers of this forum that might be using
Sophos. Does it use much RAM, any noticeable slowdown in the Mac while
this program is running? Other pluses and minuses noticed?

Thanks much. I realise this might be a "belt and suspenders" approach,
but after thinking more about it I thought why not? Sophos is free and
just might help some day.....Jim

7b.

Re: Sophos Anti-Virus Program

Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com   hflaxman001

Sun Apr 8, 2012 1:20 pm (PDT)



On Apr 8, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Jim Hamm wrote:

> With all the recent discussions about the Flashback Trojan and other
> malware that might affect a Mac, I'm considering installing and using
> the subject anti-virus program.
>
> I'd appreciate comments from readers of this forum that might be using
> Sophos. Does it use much RAM, any noticeable slowdown in the Mac while
> this program is running? Other pluses and minuses noticed?
>
> Thanks much. I realise this might be a "belt and suspenders" approach,
> but after thinking more about it I thought why not? Sophos is free and
> just might help some day.....Jim

Tried Sophos for awhile. The only thing I ever saw reports of were Win malware. The program did utilize quite a bit of system resources and after running it for a quarter (3 months), I took it down and it was like having a brand new machine, performance-wise.

ClamXav is no better as far as resources go. Win malware detected, when and if there were any around. Uninstalling provided the same system performance increase.

H

Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com

8a.

Re: HEY

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Sun Apr 8, 2012 12:44 pm (PDT)



Moderators: I hope you see this and kill this person's access unless
she can demonstrated that it was not her doing, that her account was
hacked.

At 10:18 PM -0700 4/7/12, Nanci Harvey wrote:

>
>
>
>wow this is crazy you should give it a look
><http://www.anews15o.net/biz/?page=8194189>http://www.anews15o.net/biz/?page=8194189
>
>

--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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9.

I playing around with Term

Posted by: "Jim" oldtechie@wi.rr.com   jimpurcell2001

Sun Apr 8, 2012 2:07 pm (PDT)



Now I remember why I left MSDOS SO WILLINGLY!
And now it is even more difficult to remember the many commands and their permutations.

Jim

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