2/01/2012

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1a.

Re: Mass File Copy Problems, 40,000 files

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:53 am (PST)



Tod,

I'll have a play when I've got time but in the meantime I'd try CCC. Recent
versions have an explicit copy-folder option, although I've never tried it
to FAT (obviously true cloning won't work). If this works, you could set a
CCC task to run a copy each time the external drive is connected, for
example.
<http://www.bombich.com/ccc_features.html>
<http://help.bombich.com/kb>

Otto

On 31 January 2012 12:43, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:

> Interesting article as it suggests (not surprisingly) that Finder does
> have problems with FAT32, but my issues don't fit that bug in several ways:
> not copying folders, no error thrown, and has same problem from FAT32 to
> HFS+ drive.
>
> Also not a space problem. There is a file number limit in FAT32 (~16,000
> per folder I think) but I'm not approaching that in the destination folder.
> However, the original foldersdo, and the problem might lie in that limit
> with Finder attempting to rewrite the original directories. But if that
> were the case, you'd think it would get better as more files are removed
> from the original directory, and that's not happening. My last copy was
> 2100 files, and it jammed to a halt just over half way. And I mean dead
> cold stop. Oddly, Finder does not stop responding, but the CPU remains at
> 100% (half total) and just sits there and no further copying happens. I
> can stop it (though that takes a few minutes as well) and everything looks
> fine at that point, except the CPU remains active... usually. Sometimes it
> stops. If not, I have to unmount the drive to get the CPU back.
>
> I presume "cp" is the unix copy command? I should definitely try that and
> see what the result is. Can't cp take wildcards or maybe a range? I'll
> need to look up the syntax. Anyone know a file manager that works at the
> system level, avoiding Finder?
>

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1b.

Re: Mass File Copy Problems, 40,000 files

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:03 am (PST)



It would be interesting if CCC did not show the problem, but it can't do what I need. I don't need to simply copy. I'm reorganizing, taking files from different folders and recombining into new folders.

Don't knock yourself out. I will be able to solve my immediate problem as the files can be accessed differently and I suspect I'm going to have to wait for that version for practical reasons anyway. At this point, it's probably academic.

Cheers,
tod

On Jan 31, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:

> Tod,
>
> I'll have a play when I've got time but in the meantime I'd try CCC. Recent
> versions have an explicit copy-folder option, although I've never tried it
> to FAT (obviously true cloning won't work). If this works, you could set a
> CCC task to run a copy each time the external drive is connected, for
> example.
> <http://www.bombich.com/ccc_features.html>
> <http://help.bombich.com/kb>
>
> Otto
>
> On 31 January 2012 12:43, Tod Hopkins <hoplist@hillmanncarr.com> wrote:
>
> > Interesting article as it suggests (not surprisingly) that Finder does
> > have problems with FAT32, but my issues don't fit that bug in several ways:
> > not copying folders, no error thrown, and has same problem from FAT32 to
> > HFS+ drive.
> >
> > Also not a space problem. There is a file number limit in FAT32 (~16,000
> > per folder I think) but I'm not approaching that in the destination folder.
> > However, the original foldersdo, and the problem might lie in that limit
> > with Finder attempting to rewrite the original directories. But if that
> > were the case, you'd think it would get better as more files are removed
> > from the original directory, and that's not happening. My last copy was
> > 2100 files, and it jammed to a halt just over half way. And I mean dead
> > cold stop. Oddly, Finder does not stop responding, but the CPU remains at
> > 100% (half total) and just sits there and no further copying happens. I
> > can stop it (though that takes a few minutes as well) and everything looks
> > fine at that point, except the CPU remains active... usually. Sometimes it
> > stops. If not, I have to unmount the drive to get the CPU back.
> >
> > I presume "cp" is the unix copy command? I should definitely try that and
> > see what the result is. Can't cp take wildcards or maybe a range? I'll
> > need to look up the syntax. Anyone know a file manager that works at the
> > system level, avoiding Finder?
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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1c.

Re: Mass File Copy Problems, 40,000 files

Posted by: "Alan Fry" ajf@afco.demon.co.uk   alanjohnfry

Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:15 am (PST)




On 31 Jan 2012, at 12:43, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> Interesting article as it suggests (not surprisingly) that Finder does have problems with FAT32, but my issues don't fit that bug in several ways: not copying folders, no error thrown, and has same problem from FAT32 to HFS+ drive.
>
> Also not a space problem. There is a file number limit in FAT32 (~16,000 per folder I think) but I'm not approaching that in the destination folder. However, the original foldersdo, and the problem might lie in that limit with Finder attempting to rewrite the original directories. But if that were the case, you'd think it would get better as more files are removed from the original directory, and that's not happening. My last copy was 2100 files, and it jammed to a halt just over half way. And I mean dead cold stop. Oddly, Finder does not stop responding, but the CPU remains at 100% (half total) and just sits there and no further copying happens. I can stop it (though that takes a few minutes as well) and everything looks fine at that point, except the CPU remains active... usually. Sometimes it stops. If not, I have to unmount the drive to get the CPU back.
>
> I presume "cp" is the unix copy command? I should definitely try that and see what the result is. Can't cp take wildcards or maybe a range? I'll need to look up the syntax. Anyone know a file manager that works at the system level, avoiding Finder?
>
> Cheers,
> tod
>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Alan Fry wrote:
>
>> This article <http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10412974-263.html> suggests Finder has a problem copying from Fat32 to Fat32 (due to a Finder bug) but that 'cp' and 'mv' both work.

On 31 Jan 2012, at 17:02:53 GMT Tod Hopkins wrote:

> It would be interesting if CCC did not show the problem, but it can't do what I need. I don't need to simply copy. I'm reorganizing, taking files from different folders and recombining into new folders.

If 'cp' works with FAT32, then your simplest approach (if you can't find a suitable third party application) would be a Perl script to do the specific management task you want. Despite the size of the project (in GB) it sounds like the script would be quite straightforward.

Alan Fry

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2a.

Re: MBP Andy iPad 2 battery

Posted by: "Dane Robison" macdane@mac.com   macdane1

Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:06 am (PST)



On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Dane Robison wrote:

> Aha! More data this morning! To summarize...
>
> 1. Fully charged the iPad2
> 2. Put it to sleep
> 3. Let it sit idle for 48 hours
>
> Battery life at that point: 45%
>
> 4. Removed (via minus sign) all apps from the "recent apps drawer"
> 5. Put iPad2 back to sleep at 44%

Why not one more update? Just a hair over 6 full days, I still have
35% battery life remaining. If I can figure out a way to actually use
the thing *and* get it to conserve battery like this between uses,
I'll be a happy camper!

Dane

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3a.

Re: Air Printers for iMacs

Posted by: "Larry Weissman" larryw262@gmail.com   lweissman_2000

Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:14 am (PST)



I use an HP Photosmart D110. It's under $100, it works great wirelessly.

Larry

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3b.

Re: Air Printers for iMacs

Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com   randybrucesinger

Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:17 pm (PST)




On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Michael Moloney wrote:

> What air printers would group users here recommend for iMacs mainly
> for home use?

I'm assuming that you mean a wireless printer for a Mac? Or are you
asking about a printer for an iPad?

Inkjet? Laser? Color or black & white?

For mainly photo printing or text printing?

Stand-alone or multi-function?

Price range?

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html
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4.

Apple releases AirPort Utility 6.0 for Mac borrowing iOS app design

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:21 am (PST)



http://appleinsider.com.feedsportal.com/c/33975/f/616168/s/1c44df3b/l/0L0Sappleinsider0N0Carticles0C120C0A10C30A0Capple0Ireleases0Iairport0Iutility0I60A0Ifor0Imac0Iborrowing0Iios0Iapp0Idesign0Bhtml/story01.htm

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple releases AirPort
Utility 6.0 for Mac borrowing iOS app design via AppleInsider on 1/30/12
Apple has released an update for AirPort Utility that incorporates the
greatly simplified user interface that first appeared in the company's
iOS app for managing AirPort base stations.
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5a.

Re: More on extended-ASCII characters in Mail app

Posted by: "Alan Fry" ajf@afco.demon.co.uk   alanjohnfry

Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:39 am (PST)




On 31 Jan 2012, at 12:48, Tod Hopkins wrote:

> What does mail send if one chooses "plain text" with encoding set to automatic? Shouldn't it still send UTF-8 or does it fall back to a "simpler"character set, presumably Western Latin or whatever is appropriate to the language setting of the system?

What 'charset' Mail.app chooses depends on the content of the message. On 'Automatic', If the content is simply plain text Mail.app will choose 'us-ascii', which is the universally accepted (ie in all encodings) for characters up to 127. If there is anything else in the content Mail.app will use 'utf-8'. This seems to apply whether Mail's preferences are set to Plain Text or Rich Text.

I have not been able to pin down exactly the rules by which Mail chooses 'Content-Type' and 'Content-Transfer-Encoding' which are many and various. perhaps there is a TechNote somewhere, but if there is I haven't been able to find it.

Alan Fry
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6a.

Mac mail auto fill address question

Posted by: "bobbystar" bobbystar@yahoo.com   bobbystar

Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:54 pm (PST)



I am using Mac Mail 5.1 on both an IMac and Macbook Pro. Both computers OS is Mac OS X version 10.7.2

I like the auto fill feature for inserting addresses, however it offers addresses that are no longer valid. How can I delete these invalid addresses? It must have picked up some from saved messages as far back as the mid 1980's.

TIA,

Bobby

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6b.

Re: Mac mail auto fill address question

Posted by: "Denver Dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:44 pm (PST)



Howdy.

When you see the incorrect auto address try doing a Right click
(Control left click) on it. I think that presents a contextual menu
with a delete. You may need to do the right click BEFORE the address is
entered but when presented as a list.

(a gentle pet peeve. There is no program named "Mac Mail." Apple
makes the free email program called "Mail." I called it Apple's Mail
program.)

Denver Dan

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:54:01 +0000, bobbystar wrote:
> I am using Mac Mail 5.1 on both an IMac and Macbook Pro. Both
> computers OS is Mac OS X version 10.7.2
>
> I like the auto fill feature for inserting addresses, however it
> offers addresses that are no longer valid. How can I delete these
> invalid addresses? It must have picked up some from saved messages
> as far back as the mid 1980's.
>
> TIA,
>
> Bobby

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6c.

Re: Mac mail auto fill address question

Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com

Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:23 pm (PST)



On Jan 31, 2012, at 1:54 PM, bobbystar wrote:

> I am using Mac Mail 5.1 on both an IMac and Macbook Pro. Both computers OS is Mac OS X version 10.7.2
>
> I like the auto fill feature for inserting addresses, however it offers addresses that are no longer valid. How can I delete these invalid addresses? It must have picked up some from saved messages as far back as the mid 1980's.

This is an extremely frequently asked question. In Mail.app, go to the Window menu and choose "Previous Recipients." Highlight one that is bad and click Remove From List.

Daly

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6d.

Re: Mac mail auto fill address question

Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com   nikyzf

Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:55 am (PST)



I call it "OS X Mail" to distinguish it from the iPhone/iPad app. ;-)

Otto

On 31 January 2012 22:44, Denver Dan <denver.dan@verizon.net> wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> When you see the incorrect auto address try doing a Right click
> (Control left click) on it. I think that presents a contextual menu
> with a delete. You may need to do the right click BEFORE the address is
> entered but when presented as a list.
>
> (a gentle pet peeve. There is no program named "Mac Mail." Apple
> makes the free email program called "Mail." I called it Apple's Mail
> program.)
>

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7a.

Re: Apple composite cable for iPad revisited

Posted by: "a7a54750" randydecker@telus.net   randydeckerca

Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:19 pm (PST)



Do you also use ActivEngage? Can you give me more information on the product(s) you use from Prometheus. I'd like to give you help. I'd also like to know how you are using DWB. If you want to contact me directly my email is rdecker@sd40.bc.ca
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8a.

Bluetooth

Posted by: "Lester Schonbrun" schonbrun@gmail.com   maximls35

Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:43 pm (PST)




I bought a Bluetooth keyboard on amazon. The guide that came with it said to hold down a black button near the off-on switch for 1-2 sec. After which the iPad will locate the keyboard. I see no indication that it is locating the kb. The message says "searching."

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8b.

Re: Bluetooth

Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net

Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:00 am (PST)




On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Lester Schonbrun wrote:

>
> I bought a Bluetooth keyboard on amazon. The guide that came with it said to hold down a black button near the off-on switch for 1-2 sec. After which the iPad will locate the keyboard. I see no indication that it is locating the kb. The message says "searching."

Welcome to the list.

There are no local mind readers here, let alone long distance mind readers. Give us a little more to go on. How about what brand and model of keyboard are you trying to use. Followed by which model of iPad you are using, and what iOS is on it.

the grumpy old fart,

the other Brent

(The original Brent is a list monitor, so you don't confuse grumpy with him.)
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Re: Bluetooth

Posted by: "Lester Schonbrun" schonbrun@gmail.com   maximls35

Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:11 am (PST)



The crude specs that came with the keyboard say it is Bluetooth version 3.0, class 2.

My system is model 4.2.1, 14gb, I don't know what IOs (how do i find that out?) the earlier model.

Les s.

On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:00 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Lester Schonbrun wrote:
>
> >
> > I bought a Bluetooth keyboard on amazon. The guide that came with it said to hold down a black button near the off-on switch for 1-2 sec. After which the iPad will locate the keyboard. I see no indication that it is locating the kb. The message says "searching."
>
> Welcome to the list.
>
> There are no local mind readers here, let alone long distance mind readers. Give us a little more to go on. How about what brand and model of keyboard are you trying to use. Followed by which model of iPad you are using, and what iOS is on it.
>
> the grumpy old fart,
>
> the other Brent
>
> (The original Brent is a list monitor, so you don't confuse grumpy with him.)
>
>

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8d.

Re: Bluetooth

Posted by: "Tod Hopkins" hoplist@hillmanncarr.com   todhop

Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:20 am (PST)



Start here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4111

Apple's knowlege base on connecting iPads to devices via Bluetooth.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Lester Schonbrun wrote:

> The crude specs that came with the keyboard say it is Bluetooth version 3.0, class 2.
>
> My system is model 4.2.1, 14gb, I don't know what IOs (how do i find that out?) the earlier model.
>
> Les s.
>
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:00 AM, "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Lester Schonbrun wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I bought a Bluetooth keyboard on amazon. The guide that came with it said to hold down a black button near the off-on switch for 1-2 sec. After which the iPad will locate the keyboard. I see no indication that it is locating the kb. The message says "searching."
> >
> > Welcome to the list.
> >
> > There are no local mind readers here, let alone long distance mind readers. Give us a little more to go on. How about what brand and model of keyboard are you trying to use. Followed by which model of iPad you are using, and what iOS is on it.
> >
> > the grumpy old fart,
> >
> > the other Brent
> >
> > (The original Brent is a list monitor, so you don't confuse grumpy with him.)
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Tod Hopkins
Hillmann & Carr Inc.
todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com

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