Messages In This Digest (17 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Andrew Buc
- 1b.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Andrew Buc
- 1c.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Daly Jessup
- 1d.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Barry Austern
- 1e.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Andrew Buc
- 1f.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Andrew Buc
- 1g.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Barry Austern
- 1h.
- Re: Resetting startup disk From: Doug Yelmen
- 2a.
- Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan From: neelie
- 2b.
- Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan From: neelie
- 2c.
- Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan From: N.A. Nada
- 2d.
- Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan From: luvtoso
- 2e.
- Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan From: Harry Flaxman
- 2f.
- Re: Terminal From: luvtoso
- 2g.
- Re: Terminal From: Harry Flaxman
- 2h.
- Re: Terminal From: luvtoso
- 2i.
- Re: Terminal From: Harry Flaxman
Messages
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net andrewbuc
Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:28 pm (PDT)
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
> Maybe
> the best thing would be to make another clone, onto another volume,
> if you have one, and start from a newly-formatted disk
I don't have another volume. I imagine I could reformat the one I
have and make another clone, but before trying anything that drastic,
I'd like to try swapping out the cable. The drive (OWC Mercury On the
Go) is only a few months old and definitely under warranty. The guy
at OWC offered me the option of sending it back and having them check
it out, but that would leave me with no other volume to back up to.
- 1b.
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net andrewbuc
Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:33 pm (PDT)
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
> If it shows up on the desktop then the hardware is all fine, and for
> some reason you fouled up the clone so it won't boot. The
> option-key-boot shows only bootable volumes, so if this is not
> bootable, even if it is a good disk, it won't show up there.
A bit more info, which maybe I should have given earlier: it's a
single physical volume, but with 5 partitions, each holding a clone.
Every time I make a clone, I wipe out the oldest previous clone. All
5 partitions show on the desktop, but option-key boot doesn't show
any of them. It's 7:30 p.m. my time, and the drive is in my safe
deposit box, but I could get it out tomorrow.
- 1c.
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Daly Jessup" jessup@san.rr.com dalyjessup
Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:38 pm (PDT)
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Andrew Buc wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
>
>> If it shows up on the desktop then the hardware is all fine, and for
>> some reason you fouled up the clone so it won't boot. The
>> option-key-boot shows only bootable volumes, so if this is not
>> bootable, even if it is a good disk, it won't show up there.
>
> A bit more info, which maybe I should have given earlier: it's a
> single physical volume, but with 5 partitions, each holding a clone.
> Every time I make a clone, I wipe out the oldest previous clone. All
> 5 partitions show on the desktop, but option-key boot doesn't show
> any of them. It's 7:30 p.m. my time, and the drive is in my safe
> deposit box, but I could get it out tomorrow.
Well, that seems pretty pointless to me. If the drive fails then you lose five clones. Maybe you should invest in another external and alternative between them. I mean, if you had 1,000 clones on one drive, if the drive dies (which they do) they you would lose 1000 clones. No better than if you had kept one clone on that drive.
Get a second drive on which to alternate your clones!
Daly
- 1d.
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:42 pm (PDT)
At 7:28 PM -0700 4/6/12, Andrew Buc wrote:
>
>I don't have another volume. I imagine I could reformat the one I
>have and make another clone, but before trying anything that drastic,
>I'd like to try swapping out the cable.
You didn't answer. Can you see it if not on the desktop at least in
Disk Utility? Almost all drives now are USB, not FireWire. Do you
have a printer hooked up? If so it probably uses the same cable, and
so you could test out the drive with that cable.
If it is hardware, most drives have lights on them. If yours does not
light up it might be not the USB (or FireWire) cable but the power
adapter.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net andrewbuc
Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:47 pm (PDT)
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Daly Jessup wrote:
> Get a second drive on which to alternate your clones!
Good idea, when I can put the money aside for it.
- 1f.
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Andrew Buc" andrewbuc@staxman.net andrewbuc
Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:48 pm (PDT)
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
> You didn't answer. Can you see it if not on the desktop at least in
> Disk Utility?
When I've gotten the drive out of my safe deposit box tomorrow, then
I'll be able to answer that question.
- 1g.
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Fri Apr 6, 2012 7:53 pm (PDT)
At 7:32 PM -0700 4/6/12, Andrew Buc wrote:
>A bit more info, which maybe I should have given earlier: it's a
>single physical volume, but with 5 partitions, each holding a clone.
>Every time I make a clone, I wipe out the oldest previous clone. All
>5 partitions show on the desktop, but option-key boot doesn't show
>any of them. It's 7:30 p.m. my time, and the drive is in my safe
>deposit box, but I could get it out tomorrow.
In that case the problem is not hardware, nor is it software. If all
the partitions show up then they are good volumes, but to prove it
you can check them all with Disk Utility or some such program. I
suspect that you failed to check some check box in SuperDuper. I am
not familiar with that program, using CCC, though. CCC is free, so
you might want to download it and try it.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
- 1h.
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Re: Resetting startup disk
Posted by: "Doug Yelmen" dougyelmen@earthlink.net dougyelmen
Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:08 am (PDT)
sometimes, removing the external disk improperly can lead to the disk not showing up on the desktop.
one solution that has worked for me is to run DW.
DW is a great program.
doug
Doug Yelmen
dougyelmen@earthlink.net
"You have enemies? Good. That means you have stood up for something in your life."
Sir Winston Churchill
On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
> At 4:34 PM -0700 4/6/12, Andrew Buc wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:
>>
>>> Either the connection to the external drive has become flaky, or
>>> the drive is somehow NOT bootable.
>>
>> I just spoke to Other World Computing, where I bought the drive, and
>> the support guy raised the possibility that the cable had become
>> flaky. I don't have a suitable spare cable, so I'm going to get one
>> and see how it goes.
>
> There are two possible problems, and I'm not sure which you have. If
> the new clone shows up on your desktop and can be read then the drive
> itself is good, and so is the cable. If it does not show up on the
> desktop but DOES show up in Disk Utility then it might be good. See
> if you can mount it through Disk Utility, or if you cannot see if you
> can reformat it.
> If it shows up on the desktop then the hardware is all fine, and for
> some reason you fouled up the clone so it won't boot. The
> option-key-boot shows only bootable volumes, so if this is not
> bootable, even if it is a good disk, it won't show up there.
> --
> Barry Austern
> barryaus@fuse.net
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- 2a.
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Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan
Posted by: "neelie" neeliec2000@yahoo.com neeliec2000
Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:28 pm (PDT)
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Thank for clarifying that!
neelie
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- 2b.
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Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan
Posted by: "neelie" neeliec2000@yahoo.com neeliec2000
Fri Apr 6, 2012 8:30 pm (PDT)
Thank you, Brent.
neelie
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , "N.A. Nada" <whodo678@..com .> wrote:
>
> Java is a programing language that can run inside most Operating Systems.
>
> I, too, wondered how to turn it off, as it is not as obvious as some think. Go to your Utilities folder and open Java Preferences.app. If you uncheck any of the boxes, it should disable Java.
>
> Javascript is different, but I don't understand how.
>
> On another list someone said that only one of the updates for Java was available for 10.6, but I don't know for sure.
>
> Brent
>
- 2c.
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Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan
Posted by: "N.A. Nada" whodo678@comcast.net
Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:15 pm (PDT)
On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote:
>
> On Apr 6, 2012, at 3:32 PM, N.A. Nada wrote:
>
> > Java is a programing language that can run inside most Operating
> > Systems.
> >
> > I, too, wondered how to turn it off, as it is not as obvious as
> > some think. Go to your Utilities folder and open Java
> > Preferences.app. If you uncheck any of the boxes, it should disable
> > Java.
>
> Interesting idea. I'm sitting right now at a Mac running Tiger. I
> went to Java Preferences and opened it. There were lots of boxes,
> but unfortunately none of them had anything to do with turning Java
> completely off.
I knew I should have cited the article where I saw that. It worked for me in 10.7 and 10.5. I don't have the option to boot in to 10.4 at the moment.
Brent
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Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan
Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net luvtoso@verizon.net
Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:35 am (PDT)
When I open my Terminal app the window is a white background. Isn't it usually a black background?????
Gayle
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Re: Another Java Update For Flashback Trojan
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Sat Apr 7, 2012 4:41 am (PDT)
On Apr 7, 2012, at 7:35 AM, luvtoso wrote:
> When I open my Terminal app the window is a white background. Isn't it usually a black background?????
You can use the Preferences in Terminal to change the color of the window as well as many other parameters.
Pretty simple. You can also specify what color and type of Terminal opens upon startup.
Harry
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Re: Terminal
Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net luvtoso@verizon.net
Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:05 am (PDT)
Hmmm well I'm not sure how the background got changed because I never did it.
One more question I thought the window was usually blank but it's not.
It has written--Last login: Sat Apr 7 ( then the time) The next line has my name and iMac
I'm assuming that is the time I went on my puter this morning.
I never bother with Terminal because I don't know anything about it. I was considering running the test for the Flash virsus which is why I opened it.
Thanks
Gayle
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Re: Terminal
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:06 am (PDT)
On Apr 7, 2012, at 8:04 AM, luvtoso wrote:
> Hmmm well I'm not sure how the background got changed because I never did it.
> One more question I thought the window was usually blank but it's not.
> It has written--Last login: Sat Apr 7 ( then the time) The next line has my name and iMac
> I'm assuming that is the time I went on my puter this morning.
>
> I never bother with Terminal because I don't know anything about it. I was considering running the test for the Flash virsus which is why I opened it.
That's a normal startup message from Terminal. No need to be concerned.
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com
- 2h.
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Re: Terminal
Posted by: "luvtoso" luvtoso@verizon.net luvtoso@verizon.net
Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:15 am (PDT)
Harry
Thanks a lot for letting me know all is well.
Gayle
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Re: Terminal
Posted by: "Harry Flaxman" harry.flaxman@me.com hflaxman001
Sat Apr 7, 2012 5:19 am (PDT)
On Apr 7, 2012, at 8:15 AM, luvtoso wrote:
> Thanks a lot for letting me know all is well.
You're welcome!
I'm assuming you're running the check for the latest trojan? You still need to enter the commands as listed in the article:
<http://osxdaily.com/2012/ >04/05/how- to-check- for-the-flashbac k-trojan- in-mac-os- x/
Harry
Harry Flaxman
harry.flaxman@me.com
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