10/11/2011

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1a.

Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "jamesrob@sonic.net" jamesrob@sonic.net   jamesrob328i

Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:17 am (PDT)



I'm on my 2nd iPhone (started with an iPhone 3, now have an iPhone 4. My recollection was that when the iPhone 4 came out (or perhaps later, when I got mine), ATT no longer offered NEW unlimited data plans. I know I was able to keep unlimited data by adding an additional 2 years to my contract.

Will I be able to keep unlimited data when I upgrade (I'm eligible) to an iPhone 4S? ATT's website doesn't clarify this as far as I can tell.

Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson

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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "Bob Cook" cookrd1@discoveryowners.com   cookrd1

Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:49 am (PDT)



Yes, you will be grandfathers, but ATT slows you down significantly once you
surpass 2 GB.
Bob

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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "Gijzette Strickland" gsstrickland@gmail.com   gijzette

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:29 pm (PDT)



Question, my husband and I both bought our iPhone4s in July 2010, mine was
purchased two weeks before his. My phone is eligible for an upgrade in
December but his says it isn't eligible until March. This of course has
really made him mad. My MIL's phone, on the same account, is out of
contract. It doesn't have any data plan or texting because she is 88 years
old and would not know how to use either if she had it.

Does anyone know if my husband uses my MIL's upgrade will he be able to keep
his unlimited data?

Thanks!

--Gijzette

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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:33 pm (PDT)



Yes
On Oct 10, 2011 5:29 PM, "Gijzette Strickland" <gsstrickland@gmail.com>
wrote:

> **
>
>
> Question, my husband and I both bought our iPhone4s in July 2010, mine was
> purchased two weeks before his. My phone is eligible for an upgrade in
> December but his says it isn't eligible until March. This of course has
> really made him mad. My MIL's phone, on the same account, is out of
> contract. It doesn't have any data plan or texting because she is 88 years
> old and would not know how to use either if she had it.
>
> Does anyone know if my husband uses my MIL's upgrade will he be able to
> keep
> his unlimited data?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Gijzette
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "Gijzette Strickland" gsstrickland@gmail.com   gijzette

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:46 pm (PDT)



Thanks Bill!

--Gijzette

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes
> On Oct 10, 2011 5:29 PM, "Gijzette Strickland" <gsstrickland@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Question, my husband and I both bought our iPhone4s in July 2010, mine
> was
> > purchased two weeks before his. My phone is eligible for an upgrade in
> > December but his says it isn't eligible until March. This of course has
> > really made him mad. My MIL's phone, on the same account, is out of
> > contract. It doesn't have any data plan or texting because she is 88
> years
> > old and would not know how to use either if she had it.
> >
> > Does anyone know if my husband uses my MIL's upgrade will he be able to
> > keep
> > his unlimited data?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --Gijzette
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "Kunga" kunga@futuremedia.org   taylor_barcroft

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:57 pm (PDT)



You need to call 611 and talk to sales and lobby for upgrades NOW for both your accounts waiving the upgrade fees. I was supposed to wait til Christmas unless I paid a $250 early upgrade fee and after lobbying them to wave the fee they did. Got my 64GB 4S for $399 and free shipping Friday. No penalty. Perseverance Furthers.

Taylor

On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Gijzette Strickland wrote:

> Question, my husband and I both bought our iPhone4s in July 2010, mine was
> purchased two weeks before his. My phone is eligible for an upgrade in
> December but his says it isn't eligible until March. This of course has
> really made him mad. My MIL's phone, on the same account, is out of
> contract. It doesn't have any data plan or texting because she is 88 years
> old and would not know how to use either if she had it.
>
> Does anyone know if my husband uses my MIL's upgrade will he be able to keep
> his unlimited data?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Gijzette

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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "Gijzette Strickland" gsstrickland@gmail.com   gijzette

Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:14 pm (PDT)



Taylor,

What excuse did you use to get them to give you earlier upgrade than the
system shows?

--Gijzette

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Kunga <kunga@futuremedia.org> wrote:

> You need to call 611 and talk to sales and lobby for upgrades NOW for both
> your accounts waiving the upgrade fees. I was supposed to wait til Christmas
> unless I paid a $250 early upgrade fee and after lobbying them to wave the
> fee they did. Got my 64GB 4S for $399 and free shipping Friday. No penalty.
> Perseverance Furthers.
>
> Taylor
>
> On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Gijzette Strickland wrote:
>
> > Question, my husband and I both bought our iPhone4s in July 2010, mine
> was
> > purchased two weeks before his. My phone is eligible for an upgrade in
> > December but his says it isn't eligible until March. This of course has
> > really made him mad. My MIL's phone, on the same account, is out of
> > contract. It doesn't have any data plan or texting because she is 88
> years
> > old and would not know how to use either if she had it.
> >
> > Does anyone know if my husband uses my MIL's upgrade will he be able to
> keep
> > his unlimited data?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --Gijzette
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Group FAQ:
> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?

Posted by: "Kunga" kunga@futuremedia.org   taylor_barcroft

Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:25 pm (PDT)



1. I almost NEVER use their 3G network for data - almost always in a wi-fi zone.
2. Am low income and can't afford the early upgrade fee.
3. I TEACH iDevices and iOS 5 at the local computer center.
4. I tell everyone to buy AT&T iPhones and iPads NOT Verizon & Sprint - I'm an ambassador for them.
5. Have been a loyal customer for 3 years so I deserve the new one on launch without a penalty.

You have to ask the sales person to escalate your request to a supervisor. Don't take no for an answer. I started my lobbying 2 weeks ago. I had to wait for them to call me Friday afternoon. Key is to be talking to a person with Supervisor Powers to override all the penalties and shipping fees.

Taylor

On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Gijzette Strickland wrote:

> Taylor,
>
> What excuse did you use to get them to give you earlier upgrade than the
> system shows?
>
> --Gijzette
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Kunga <kunga@futuremedia.org> wrote:
>
>> You need to call 611 and talk to sales and lobby for upgrades NOW for both
>> your accounts waiving the upgrade fees. I was supposed to wait til Christmas
>> unless I paid a $250 early upgrade fee and after lobbying them to wave the
>> fee they did. Got my 64GB 4S for $399 and free shipping Friday. No penalty.
>> Perseverance Furthers.
>>
>> Taylor
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Gijzette Strickland wrote:
>>
>>> Question, my husband and I both bought our iPhone4s in July 2010, mine
>> was
>>> purchased two weeks before his. My phone is eligible for an upgrade in
>>> December but his says it isn't eligible until March. This of course has
>>> really made him mad. My MIL's phone, on the same account, is out of
>>> contract. It doesn't have any data plan or texting because she is 88
>> years
>>> old and would not know how to use either if she had it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if my husband uses my MIL's upgrade will he be able to
>> keep
>>> his unlimited data?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --Gijzette
>>
>>
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>> Group FAQ:
>> <http://www.macsupportcentral.com/policies/>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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iPhone 4s pre orders

Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net   denverdan22180

Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:48 am (PDT)



Apple reports iPhone 4s pre orders top 1 million in first 24 hours.

Other reports that shipping dates being pushed back due to heavier than anticipated early demand.

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Apple sells over 1 million iPhone 4S handsets in first 24 hours

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:54 am (PDT)



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheBoyGeniusReport/~3/Mf9jOpLAcb8/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple sells over 1
million iPhone 4S handsets in first 24 hours via BGR: The Three Biggest
Letters In Tech by Jonathan S. Geller on 10/10/11



Apple has confirmed that the company has sold a mind-numbing number of
iPhone 4S devices in pre-orders, over one million of them. The previous
record was from last year's iPhone 4 launch which totaled over 600,000
in one day. Apple had a larger amount of global carrier partners for
this year's launch, including Verizon and Sprint in the U.S., but that
doesn't take away from how incredibly impressive this is. Apple's
Apple's press release is after the break.



iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

CUPERTINO, California—October 10, 2011—Apple® today announced
pre-orders of its iPhone® 4S have topped one million in a single day,
surpassing the previous single day pre-order record of 600,000 held by
iPhone 4. iPhone 4S is the most amazing iPhone yet, packed with
incredible new features including Apple's dual-core A5 chip for blazing
fast performance and stunning graphics; an all new camera with advanced
optics; full 1080p HD resolution video recording; and Siri™, an
intelligent assistant that helps you get things done just by asking.

"We are blown away with the incredible customer response to iPhone 4S,"
said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide
Product Marketing. "The first day pre-orders for iPhone 4S have been
the most for any new product that Apple has ever launched and we are
thrilled that customers love iPhone 4S as much as we do."

iPhone 4S will be available at all 245 Apple retail stores in the US
beginning at 8 a.m. local time on Friday, October 14. Every customer
who buys an iPhone 4S at an Apple retail store will be offered free
Personal Setup service, helping them customize their iPhone 4S by
setting up email, showing them new apps from the App Store™ and more,
so they'll be up and running with their new iPhone before they leave
the store.

iPhone 4S includes iOS 5, the world's most advanced mobile operating
system with over 200 new features, and iCloud®, a breakthrough set of
free cloud services that work seamlessly with your iPhone, iPad®, iPod
touch®, Mac® or PC to automatically and wirelessly store your content
in iCloud and push it to all your devices.

Pricing & Availability
iPhone 4S comes in either black or white and will be available in the
US for a suggested retail price of $199 (US) for the 16GB model and
$299 (US) for the 32GB model and $399 (US) for the new 64GB model.*
iPhone 4S will be available from the Apple Online Store, Apple's retail
stores and through AT&T, Sprint, Verizon Wireless, and select Best Buy,
Target and Walmart stores and select Apple Authorized Resellers. iPhone
4 is available for just $99 (US) and iPhone 3GS is available for free
with a two year contract.

iPhone 4S will roll out worldwide to 22 more countries by the end of
October including Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia,
Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania,
Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia,
Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.

*Qualified customers only. Requires a new two year rate plan, sold
separately.

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4a.

messages bouncing

Posted by: "Les Streater" lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk   linernutuk

Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:39 am (PDT)



I am suddenly getting my mail bounced in the last two days. I have not added or altered anything, and it is happening from two different machines, a 27in 2010 iMac and a 2010 MacBook Pro, both running 10.6.8.

I have tried restarting Mail, I have restarted one Mac and restarted the router.

The bounced message I get includes the following:

SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk> SIZE=1921:
host mx2.hotmail.com [65.54.188.126]: 550 SC-002 (BAY0-MC4-F35) Unfortunately, messages from 195.173.77.149 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list.

I am sending to family and friends whose addresses are in my address book, so I know the addresses are correct.

Any suggestions or is it a problem at the ISP?

TIA

Les Streater
www.lesstreater.com

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Re: messages bouncing

Posted by: "Jim Harry" jim.harry@harryfamily.com   jnharry

Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:55 am (PDT)



On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Les Streater <
lesstreater@marpubs.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Unfortunately, messages from 195.173.77.149 weren't sent. Please contact
> your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block
> list.

This is the root of your problem. Some of your ISP's addresses are being
blocked as SPAM. probably due to someone using or spoofing their addresses
to send bulk spam. I had that happen several years ago when I used a hosted
server for email.

Jim H.

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5a.

Re: DVD won't play

Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net   barryaus

Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:53 am (PDT)



At 12:10 AM -0700 10/10/11, DaveC wrote:

>
>
>I insert a commercial DVD that I've watched before on this Mac but
>this time I get the error "A valid video playback device could not be
>found (-170017)." This is using Apple DVD Player.
>
>I haven't updated or installed any new software on this Mac.
>
>Any suggestions?

Have you tried a different disc? Maybe this one has gone bad. Might
be as simple as fingerprints on its surface. You can, believe it or
not, wash it with a mild detergent.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net

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Re: DVD won't play

Posted by: "Curby Keith" clkeith50@yahoo.com   clkeith50

Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:36 am (PDT)



I use Dawn  dishwashing detergent on the DVD's I receive from Netflix. About 1/3 of the unplayable ones will play after a bath.

Curby
Del City, OK

>________________________________
>From: Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net>
>To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [macsupport] DVD won't play
>
>
> 
>At 12:10 AM -0700 10/10/11, DaveC wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>I insert a commercial DVD that I've watched before on this Mac but
>>this time I get the error "A valid video playback device could not be
>>found (-170017)." This is using Apple DVD Player.
>>
>>I haven't updated or installed any new software on this Mac.
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>
>Have you tried a different disc? Maybe this one has gone bad. Might
>be as simple as fingerprints on its surface. You can, believe it or
>not, wash it with a mild detergent.
>--
>Barry Austern
>barryaus@fuse.net
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: DVD won't play

Posted by: "Jim Hamm" machamm@gmail.com   jimhamm90

Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:17 pm (PDT)



Curby, do you use a bit of water with the Dawn, or just the Dawn by itself? ..... Jim

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Curby Keith <clkeith50@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I use Dawn dishwashing detergent on the DVD's I receive from Netflix. About 1/3 of the unplayable ones will play after a bath.
>
> Curby
> Del City, OK
>
> >________________________________
> >From: Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net>
> >To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:51 AM
> >Subject: Re: [macsupport] DVD won't play
> >
> >
> >
> >At 12:10 AM -0700 10/10/11, DaveC wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>I insert a commercial DVD that I've watched before on this Mac but
> >>this time I get the error "A valid video playback device could not be
> >>found (-170017)." This is using Apple DVD Player.
> >>
> >>I haven't updated or installed any new software on this Mac.
> >>
> >>Any suggestions?
> >
> >Have you tried a different disc? Maybe this one has gone bad. Might
> >be as simple as fingerprints on its surface. You can, believe it or
> >not, wash it with a mild detergent.
> >--
> >Barry Austern
> >barryaus@fuse.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: DVD won't play

Posted by: "Curby Keith" clkeith50@yahoo.com   clkeith50

Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:30 pm (PDT)



Wet the disc down and put a drop of Dawn on it. Rub it around and rinse and dry thoroughly before inserting in the DVD drive.

If it's a Netflix DVD and it still won't play, use a permanent marker to label the disc as "BAD!!!!!" (or other suitable language) so they can't send it out again.

Curby
Del City, OK

>________________________________
>From: Jim Hamm <machamm@gmail.com>
>To: "macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com" <macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [macsupport] DVD won't play
>
>
> 
>Curby, do you use a bit of water with the Dawn, or just the Dawn by itself? ..... Jim
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Curby Keith <clkeith50@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I use Dawn dishwashing detergent on the DVD's I receive from Netflix. About 1/3 of the unplayable ones will play after a bath.
>>
>> Curby
>> Del City, OK
>>
>> >________________________________
>> >From: Barry Austern <barryaus@fuse.net>
>> >To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups.com
>> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 11:51 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [macsupport] DVD won't play
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >At 12:10 AM -0700 10/10/11, DaveC wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I insert a commercial DVD that I've watched before on this Mac but
>> >>this time I get the error "A valid video playback device could not be
>> >>found (-170017)." This is using Apple DVD Player.
>> >>
>> >>I haven't updated or installed any new software on this Mac.
>> >>
>> >>Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >Have you tried a different disc? Maybe this one has gone bad. Might
>> >be as simple as fingerprints on its surface. You can, believe it or
>> >not, wash it with a mild detergent.
>> >--
>> >Barry Austern
>> >barryaus@fuse.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: DVD won't play

Posted by: "DaveC" davec2468@yahoo.com   davec2468

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:03 pm (PDT)



>Have you restarted, doing a safe boot?
>
>You can try VLC to view video from virtually any file or disc. You
>might want to try this.
>
>Harry

Yes and yes.

It's not a dirty disc; I've tried several.

VLC gives same error.

I downloaded something called XBMC player but it was significantly
unrewarding (more glitz than function)...

I am connecting to this Mac mini (with Superdrive) via VNC when I get
this error. I tried plugging in a HDMI adapter to run the LCD (DVI
connector) directly but get the same error. Might this all have
something to do with monitor connectors, adapters, and cables?

Thanks,
Dave

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Apple plans celebration of Steve Jobs' life for October 19th,

Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com   boulware0224

Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:27 am (PDT)



http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/9To5Mac-MacAllDay/~3/mkDLvPVhpmc/

Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple plans celebration
of Steve Jobs' life for October 19th, 10am PT via 9to5Mac by Jordan
Kahn on 10/10/11



Tim Cook has sent out an internal email to Apple employees informing
them of a celebration of Steve Jobs' life planned for October 19th in
the outdoor amphitheater of Apple's Infinite Loop campus in Cupertino.

Team,

Like many of you, I have experienced the saddest days of my lifetime
and shed many tears during the past week. But I've found some comfort
in the extraordinary number of tributes and condolences from people all
over the world who were touched by Steve and his genius. And I've found
comfort in both telling and listening to stories about Steve.

Although many of our hearts are still heavy, we are planning a
celebration of his life for Apple employees to take time to remember
the incredible things Steve achieved in his life and the many ways he
made our world a better place. The celebration will be held on
Wednesday, October 19, at 10am in the outdoor amphitheater on the
Infinite Loop campus. We'll have more details on AppleWeb closer to the
date, including arrangements for employees outside of Cupertino.

I look forward to seeing you there.

Tim



(via MacGeneration)





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7a.

only plug in laptop

Posted by: "us2forever" us2forever@frontiernet.net   rksangelkayann

Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:01 pm (PDT)



Can I use my laptop with the battery out and the electric plugged in? I don't have the cash right now to buy a new battery but still need the MacBook to run the embroidery programs for my sewing machine.

Thank you,
Kay
MacBook Air
Mac OS X 10.7
1.8 GHz Intel Core i7
4GB 1333 Mhz DDR3
MacBook
Mac OS X 10.6.7
2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
iMac g4
Mac OS X 10.4.11
1.25 GHz PowerPC G
2 GB DDR SDRAM

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Re: only plug in laptop

Posted by: "paul smith" kullervo@nycap.rr.com   waldonny

Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:54 pm (PDT)



Yes.
--
PSmith
MacBook Pro, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM, OS 10.7.1

On Oct 10, 2011, at 6:01 PM, us2forever wrote:

Can I use my laptop with the battery out and the electric plugged in? I don't have the cash right now to buy a new battery but still need the MacBook to run the embroidery programs for my sewing machine.

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