10/12/2011

[apple-iphone] Digest Number 2690

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1.1.

Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Paul" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:44 pm (PDT)



I give up. It just wont upgrade. I have tried everything short of installing Itunes on my WIN7 machine and trying to upgrade from it. I wonder what kind of probs that would cause?
Paul

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:

> And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
> those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
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> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:56, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Sorry Iphone4 and Mac Mini running lion. Everything up to date I think.
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> > > What model phone do you have, what type of computer?
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> > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:50, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated
> > iTunes,
> > > > rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime.
> > "Phone
> > > > could not be restored. Internal error"
> > > > anybody else having this prob?
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Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Paul " paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:07 pm (PDT)



I guess I dont have to worry about updating anymore. It has Bricked my iPhone. Won't even turn on now.
Caution everyone.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:

> And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
> those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:56, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Iphone4 and Mac Mini running lion. Everything up to date I think.
> > Paul
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> > On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
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> > > What model phone do you have, what type of computer?
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> > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:50, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated
> > iTunes,
> > > > rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime.
> > "Phone
> > > > could not be restored. Internal error"
> > > > anybody else having this prob?
> > > > Paul
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Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:17 pm (PDT)



The error 3200 has to do with the apple servers...it is overloaded..should be fixed as time goes by...try tomorrow...

Regarding bricked iphone, try to place your phone on DFU mode..(google) and try again

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul ���
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] V5 Upgrade

I guess I dont have to worry about updating anymore. It has Bricked my iPhone. Won't even turn on now.
Caution everyone.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:

> And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
> those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:56, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Iphone4 and Mac Mini running lion. Everything up to date I think.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> >
> > > What model phone do you have, what type of computer?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:50, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated
> > iTunes,
> > > > rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime.
> > "Phone
> > > > could not be restored. Internal error"
> > > > anybody else having this prob?
> > > > Paul
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Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Paul" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:57 pm (PDT)



Just for grins I installed iTunes on my Win7 machine and I get the same thing, crash during restore. This time error 3200. Phone will still not boot. I guess I am just phoneless.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:

> And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
> those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:56, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Iphone4 and Mac Mini running lion. Everything up to date I think.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> >
> > > What model phone do you have, what type of computer?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:50, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated
> > iTunes,
> > > > rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime.
> > "Phone
> > > > could not be restored. Internal error"
> > > > anybody else having this prob?
> > > > Paul
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1.5.

Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Paul" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:00 pm (PDT)



I tried DFU mode. Same thing.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Rodrigo wrote:

> The error 3200 has to do with the apple servers...it is overloaded..should be fixed as time goes by...try tomorrow...
>
> Regarding bricked iphone, try to place your phone on DFU mode..(google) and try again
>
> Rod
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul ���
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] V5 Upgrade
>
> I guess I dont have to worry about updating anymore. It has Bricked my iPhone. Won't even turn on now.
> Caution everyone.
>
> On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
>
> > And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
> > those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:56, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry Iphone4 and Mac Mini running lion. Everything up to date I think.
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> > >
> > > > What model phone do you have, what type of computer?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:50, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated
> > > iTunes,
> > > > > rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime.
> > > "Phone
> > > > > could not be restored. Internal error"
> > > > > anybody else having this prob?
> > > > > Paul

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1.6.

Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:06 pm (PDT)



The error 3200 has to do with the apple servers...it is overloaded..should be fixed as time goes by...try tomorrow...

Regarding bricked iphone, try to place your phone on DFU mode..(google) and try again

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [apple-iphone] V5 Upgrade

Just for grins I installed iTunes on my Win7 machine and I get the same thing, crash during restore. This time error 3200. Phone will still not boot. I guess I am just phoneless.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:

> And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
> those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:56, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Iphone4 and Mac Mini running lion. Everything up to date I think.
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> >
> > > What model phone do you have, what type of computer?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:50, Paul ��� <paul.deyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated
> > iTunes,
> > > > rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime.
> > "Phone
> > > > could not be restored. Internal error"
> > > > anybody else having this prob?
> > > > Paul
> > > >
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> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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1.7.

Question about iOS 5

Posted by: "John R Park" lajohn72@sbcglobal.net   jpark49149

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:10 pm (PDT)



http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html#camera

I don't see the camera icon on my lock screen, anyone else have it? ����I upgraded to 5 earlier today, I have the iPHONE 4����

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Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:17 pm (PDT)



>>> Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated iTunes, rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime. "Phone could not be restored. Internal error" anybody else having this prob?
>>> Paul
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>> And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
>> those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
>
> I guess I dont have to worry about updating anymore. It has Bricked my iPhone. Won't even turn on now.
> Caution everyone.

Caution *Paul*.

I very much doubt that your iPhone 4 is "bricked", unless of course you ignore all the advice as to how to restore it to normal function.

I would start by answering Bill's question. And following his suggestions.

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Re: V5 Upgrade

Posted by: "Paul ���" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:25 pm (PDT)



I have tried all suggestions including DFU mode and get the same result. This is my 3rd iPhone and this is the first time I have ever had a problem. And just for info I have a degree in computer engineering and I am an HP Master ASE

On Oct 12, 2011, at 6:16 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> >>> Well my Phone will not upgrade. I have tried everything. updated iTunes, rebooted Mac, rebooted phone. I get the same exact thing everytime. "Phone could not be restored. Internal error" anybody else having this prob?
> >>> Paul
> >>
> >> And you tried Upgrade and Restore with phone plugged in? If neither of
> >> those works, put the phone in DFU mode (google iPhone 4 DFU mode for steps)
> >
> > I guess I dont have to worry about updating anymore. It has Bricked my iPhone. Won't even turn on now.
> > Caution everyone.
>
> Caution *Paul*.
>
> I very much doubt that your iPhone 4 is "bricked", unless of course you ignore all the advice as to how to restore it to normal function.
>
> I would start by answering Bill's question. And following his suggestions.
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2a.

V5 crashes all add-in apps and iBooks on iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Tim" thutches@ihmc.us   thutches

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:11 pm (PDT)



I just completed a normal upgrade of my 3GS from V4.3.5 and now find that all of my apps from the app store crash immediately (ie, vanish but remain in tray) as soon as I tap their icon. And that inlcudes the iBooks app, although the somewhat similar Newstand app works fine. the Google app, CNN app etc., all crash.

The 'classic' apps like the Calculator, Clock, Calendar are fine.

Anyone else seeing this?

Tim

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Re: V5 crashes all add-in apps and iBooks on iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Paul ���" paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:13 pm (PDT)



at least you have a phone. It bricked mine. Wont even power on,

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Tim wrote:

> I just completed a normal upgrade of my 3GS from V4.3.5 and now find that all of my apps from the app store crash immediately (ie, vanish but remain in tray) as soon as I tap their icon. And that inlcudes the iBooks app, although the somewhat similar Newstand app works fine. the Google app, CNN app etc., all crash.
>
> The 'classic' apps like the Calculator, Clock, Calendar are fine.
>
> Anyone else seeing this?
>
> Tim
>
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Re: V5 crashes all add-in apps and iBooks on iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Rodrigo" yid_grps@yahoo.com.br   yid_grps

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:29 pm (PDT)



Have you restored from backup? If so try downloading the app again. iPhone backups always gives me trouble..

Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim
To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:09 PM
Subject: [apple-iphone] V5 crashes all add-in apps and iBooks on iPhone 3GS

I just completed a normal upgrade of my 3GS from V4.3.5 and now find that all of my apps from the app store crash immediately (ie, vanish but remain in tray) as soon as I tap their icon. And that inlcudes the iBooks app, although the somewhat similar Newstand app works fine. the Google app, CNN app etc., all crash.

The 'classic' apps like the Calculator, Clock, Calendar are fine.

Anyone else seeing this?

Tim

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Re: V5 crashes all add-in apps and iBooks on iPhone 3GS

Posted by: "Tim" thutches@ihmc.us   thutches

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:56 pm (PDT)



Rod, that works. All that I had to do was delete the app in iTunes and then go back to the appstore and reinstall. That said, there are a lot of apps that I like to use. Hope I don't have to do that for all of them.

Thanks for the heads up.

Tim

--- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Rodrigo" <yid_grps@...> wrote:
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> Have you restored from backup? If so try downloading the app again. iPhone backups always gives me trouble..
>
> Rod
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim
> To: apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:09 PM
> Subject: [apple-iphone] V5 crashes all add-in apps and iBooks on iPhone 3GS
>
>
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> I just completed a normal upgrade of my 3GS from V4.3.5 and now find that all of my apps from the app store crash immediately (ie, vanish but remain in tray) as soon as I tap their icon. And that inlcudes the iBooks app, although the somewhat similar Newstand app works fine. the Google app, CNN app etc., all crash.
>
> The 'classic' apps like the Calculator, Clock, Calendar are fine.
>
> Anyone else seeing this?
>
> Tim
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Iphone 3GS update success

Posted by: "Joan" jheitzeb1@yahoo.com   jheitzeb1

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:13 pm (PDT)



I successfully updated to iOS5. Took awhile, despite the fact that I had backed up, cleaned up apps, folders yesterday. The problem I had was that I was typing in the background on another site and when the message came up after the install started it some how triggered a STOP in the message. So it had to restore and took awhile.

Now upgrading my iPad. Hopefully this will go smoother.

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Re: Iphone 3GS update success

Posted by: "Tim" thutches@ihmc.us   thutches

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:26 pm (PDT)



Joan, are your appstore downloaded apps still working ok? Mine all crash now.

Tim

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> I successfully updated to iOS5. Took awhile, despite the fact that I had backed up, cleaned up apps, folders yesterday. The problem I had was that I was typing in the background on another site and when the message came up after the install started it some how triggered a STOP in the message. So it had to restore and took awhile.
>
> Now upgrading my iPad. Hopefully this will go smoother.
>

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Re: Iphone 3GS update success

Posted by: "Joan" jheitzeb1@yahoo.com   jheitzeb1

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:41 pm (PDT)



What do you mean by app store apps working ok? Do you mean new apps I download now or that are already on the iphone?

I have been testing some of my favorite apps that are already on my device and they seem to be working fine.

joan

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> Joan, are your appstore downloaded apps still working ok? Mine all crash now.
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> Tim
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> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Joan" <jheitzeb1@> wrote:
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> > I successfully updated to iOS5. Took awhile, despite the fact that I had backed up, cleaned up apps, folders yesterday. The problem I had was that I was typing in the background on another site and when the message came up after the install started it some how triggered a STOP in the message. So it had to restore and took awhile.
> >
> > Now upgrading my iPad. Hopefully this will go smoother.
> >
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Re: Iphone 3GS update success

Posted by: "Joan" jheitzeb1@yahoo.com   jheitzeb1

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:47 pm (PDT)



One odd thing on my iPhone in the email accounts, one of my email accounts is listed twice. I will try later to delete one or both and re-add probably. But I want to make sure everything gets updated on my ipad first.

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> I successfully updated to iOS5. Took awhile, despite the fact that I had backed up, cleaned up apps, folders yesterday. The problem I had was that I was typing in the background on another site and when the message came up after the install started it some how triggered a STOP in the message. So it had to restore and took awhile.
>
> Now upgrading my iPad. Hopefully this will go smoother.
>

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Re: Iphone 3GS update success

Posted by: "Tim" thutches@ihmc.us   thutches

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:59 pm (PDT)



Good grief! Having 'repaired' only one app, GraphCalc by Gabor Nagy, by reloading it from the appstore, now they all work! Go figure that one...

Tim

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> What do you mean by app store apps working ok? Do you mean new apps I download now or that are already on the iphone?
>
> I have been testing some of my favorite apps that are already on my device and they seem to be working fine.
>
> joan
>
> --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <thutches@> wrote:
> >
> > Joan, are your appstore downloaded apps still working ok? Mine all crash now.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > --- In apple-iphone@yahoogroups.com, "Joan" <jheitzeb1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I successfully updated to iOS5. Took awhile, despite the fact that I had backed up, cleaned up apps, folders yesterday. The problem I had was that I was typing in the background on another site and when the message came up after the install started it some how triggered a STOP in the message. So it had to restore and took awhile.
> > >
> > > Now upgrading my iPad. Hopefully this will go smoother.
> > >
> >
>

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4a.

Re: Apple sells over 1 million iPhone 4S handsets in first 24 hours

Posted by: "Keith" nealykeith@gmail.com   nealykeith

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:29 pm (PDT)



I tried to be one of those. I ordered mine through ATT at 7:20 PM on Friday the 7th. Then tried to confirm that the order went through and was told I had to wait 24 hours for confirmation. So I call back over 24 hrs. later and am told I need to wait 48 hours. So I call back 55 hours later and they tell me they have no record of the order even though I have a confirmation order number which I copied and pasted from their web page.

This system was designed to anger customers. Now I'm at the end of the line because I didn't dare to reorder it before I knew whether the first order had gone through. Having waited for 2 days for this confirmation I now have to wait 21-28 days as opposed to this Friday.

When I called them, ATT put me on hold for 20 minutes, then told me they'd call me back. Next day - no call. I called again and they again put me on hold (I'm talking about a real person put me on hold, not a robot) and 15 minutes later came back to tell me that they couldn't talk to me now, would I like to know about their internet service. They'd have a supervisor call me within the hour.

Hours later I get a text message saying they tried to call me unsuccessfully and would try again in a half hour, though I've been in exactly the same place all the time where I got the text message. Thirty-five minutes later I get a second text message saying they're sorry but they can't help me and point out that there is a restriction on the number of lines I can have. I had done nothing to change my lines or inquire about them and only have two.

Thank you ATT. If I set out to design a company to anger customers, I'd model it on ATT.

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Re: Apple sells over 1 million iPhone 4S handsets in first 24 hours

Posted by: "Paul " paul.deyo@gmail.com   crewcheef

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:33 pm (PDT)



based on my experience you better keep what you have at ios4. Apple has totally messed up this entire upgrade.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Keith wrote:

> I tried to be one of those. I ordered mine through ATT at 7:20 PM on Friday the 7th. Then tried to confirm that the order went through and was told I had to wait 24 hours for confirmation. So I call back over 24 hrs. later and am told I need to wait 48 hours. So I call back 55 hours later and they tell me they have no record of the order even though I have a confirmation order number which I copied and pasted from their web page.
>
> This system was designed to anger customers. Now I'm at the end of the line because I didn't dare to reorder it before I knew whether the first order had gone through. Having waited for 2 days for this confirmation I now have to wait 21-28 days as opposed to this Friday.
>
> When I called them, ATT put me on hold for 20 minutes, then told me they'd call me back. Next day - no call. I called again and they again put me on hold (I'm talking about a real person put me on hold, not a robot) and 15 minutes later came back to tell me that they couldn't talk to me now, would I like to know about their internet service. They'd have a supervisor call me within the hour.
>
> Hours later I get a text message saying they tried to call me unsuccessfully and would try again in a half hour, though I've been in exactly the same place all the time where I got the text message. Thirty-five minutes later I get a second text message saying they're sorry but they can't help me and point out that there is a restriction on the number of lines I can have. I had done nothing to change my lines or inquire about them and only have two.
>
> Thank you ATT. If I set out to design a company to anger customers, I'd model it on ATT.
>
>

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Re: iCloud Backup

Posted by: "Wyldceltic1" wyldceltic1@me.com   wyldceltic1

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:57 pm (PDT)



Main part of it are in Video content. TV Shows and Movies, iTunes U and home movies of my dogs and I.

About 60 GB is music 358 Apps - Not sure of the size.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Jim Saklad wrote:

> > Over 720GB of iTunes data, I think I'll stay to external HD's.
>
> Presuming a large amount of that data is music and Apps, it won't use up your backup-in-iCloud space at all....
>
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Re: iCloud Backup

Posted by: "AnneL" shadow484@comcast.net   alogston

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:07 pm (PDT)



> Basically, everything you've bought through iTunes - music, Apps, books,
> ... - does NOT count towards the 5 GB limit.
> Do you have 5 GB of *other* stuff?

No, I have about 12GB of "other stuff" (on my iPad, not my iPhone).

Anne

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Re: iCloud Backup

Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com   jimdoc01

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:13 pm (PDT)



>>> Over 720GB of iTunes data, I think I'll stay to external HD's.
>>
>> Presuming a large amount of that data is music and Apps, it won't use up your backup-in-iCloud space at all....
>
> Main part of it are in Video content. TV Shows and Movies, iTunes U and home movies of my dogs and I.
>
> About 60 GB is music 358 Apps - Not sure of the size.

I *think* that stuff you got through iTunes (iTunes U, downloaded shows and movies, music, apps) do not use up backup space in the cloud. HOME movies are another issue entirely.

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Lost all contacts from iPhone after update of iOS5

Posted by: "Paul Miller" ichthus@roadrunner.com   xtrkr2

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:07 pm (PDT)



I blundered and must�����ve said ok to the wrong thing and upon completing my setup all my contacts on the iPhone 4 are gone. I still have everything in my Address Book though.

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iPhone Manual for iOS 5

Posted by: "Brent" flapdoodle@gmail.com   flapdoodle44

Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:15 pm (PDT)



iPhone Manual for iOS 5

http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iphone_user_guide.pdf

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