Messages In This Digest (25 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Apple sells over 1 million iPhone 4S handsets in first 24 hours From: raoullefere
- 2a.
- Questions and Problems From: HAL9000
- 2b.
- Re: Questions and Problems From: Barry Austern
- 2c.
- Re: Questions and Problems From: Jim Saklad
- 2d.
- Re: Questions and Problems From: Carl Cristella
- 3a.
- Windows XP frozen From: Gay Norman
- 3b.
- Re: Windows XP frozen From: Otto Nikolaus
- 3c.
- Re: Windows XP frozen From: Gay Norman
- 3d.
- Re: Windows XP frozen From: Carl Cristella
- 3e.
- Re: Windows XP frozen From: Gay Norman
- 3f.
- Re: Windows XP frozen From: Otto Nikolaus
- 4a.
- Safari refuses to scroll down From: davidpriceuk
- 4b.
- Re: Safari refuses to scroll down From: bob morin
- 4c.
- Re: Safari refuses to scroll down From: Bill B.
- 5.
- Siri Is iPhone 4S-Only Today, But Where Will It Be Tomorrow? From: Bill Boulware
- 6a.
- Re: Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard From: John Richardson
- 6b.
- Re: Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard From: Denver dan
- 7a.
- Re: On/off switches on hard drives From: John Richardson
- 7b.
- Re: On/off switches on hard drives From: Randy B. Singer
- 8a.
- Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data? From: Carl Cristella
- 9.
- network printing issues - Lion From: Mark Mahabir
- 10a.
- Mobile Me Question From: D. Brett Woods
- 10b.
- Re: Mobile Me Question From: Bill Boulware
- 10c.
- Re: Mobile Me Question From: D. Brett Woods
- 10d.
- Re: Mobile Me Question From: Barb Adamski
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Apple sells over 1 million iPhone 4S handsets in first 24 hours
Posted by: "raoullefere" raoullefere@yahoo.com raoullefere
Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:17 pm (PDT)
And this is the phone everyone's so bummed about? Good thing they didn't actually release an iPhone 5. There'd be knife fights.
--- In macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. , Bill Boulware <bill.boulware@com ...> wrote:
>
> http://feedproxy.google.com/ ~r/TheBoyGeniusR eport/~3/ Mf9jOpLAcb8/
>
> Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Apple sells over 1
> million iPhone 4S handsets in first 24 hours via BGR: The Three Biggest
> Letters In Tech by Jonathan S. Geller on 10/10/11
>
>
>
> Apple has confirmed that the company has sold a mind-numbing number of
> iPhone 4S devices in pre-orders, over one million of them. The previous
> record was from last yearâs iPhone 4 launch which totaled over 600,000
> in one day. Apple had a larger amount of global carrier partners for
> this yearâs launch, including Verizon and Sprint in the U.S., but that
> doesnât take away from how incredibly impressive this is. Appleâs
> Appleâs press release is after the break.
>
>
>
> iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours
>
> CUPERTINO, Californiaâ"October 10, 2011â"Apple® today announced
> pre-orders of its iPhone® 4S have topped one million in a single day,
> surpassing the previous single day pre-order record of 600,000 held by
> iPhone 4. iPhone 4S is the most amazing iPhone yet, packed with
> incredible new features including Appleâs dual-core A5 chip for blazing
> fast performance and stunning graphics; an all new camera with advanced
> optics; full 1080p HD resolution video recording; and Siriâ¢, an
> intelligent assistant that helps you get things done just by asking.
>
> âWe are blown away with the incredible customer response to iPhone 4S,â
> said Philip Schiller, Appleâs senior vice president of Worldwide
> Product Marketing. âThe first day pre-orders for iPhone 4S have been
> the most for any new product that Apple has ever launched and we are
> thrilled that customers love iPhone 4S as much as we do.â
>
> iPhone 4S will be available at all 245 Apple retail stores in the US
> beginning at 8 a.m. local time on Friday, October 14. Every customer
> who buys an iPhone 4S at an Apple retail store will be offered free
> Personal Setup service, helping them customize their iPhone 4S by
> setting up email, showing them new apps from the App Store⢠and more,
> so theyâll be up and running with their new iPhone before they leave
> the store.
>
> iPhone 4S includes iOS 5, the worldâs most advanced mobile operating
> system with over 200 new features, and iCloud®, a breakthrough set of
> free cloud services that work seamlessly with your iPhone, iPad®, iPod
> touch®, Mac® or PC to automatically and wirelessly store your content
> in iCloud and push it to all your devices.
>
> Pricing & Availability
> iPhone 4S comes in either black or white and will be available in the
> US for a suggested retail price of $199 (US) for the 16GB model and
> $299 (US) for the 32GB model and $399 (US) for the new 64GB model.*
> iPhone 4S will be available from the Apple Online Store, Appleâs retail
> stores and through AT&T, Sprint, Verizon Wireless, and select Best Buy,
> Target and Walmart stores and select Apple Authorized Resellers. iPhone
> 4 is available for just $99 (US) and iPhone 3GS is available for free
> with a two year contract.
>
> iPhone 4S will roll out worldwide to 22 more countries by the end of
> October including Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia,
> Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania,
> Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia,
> Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.
>
> *Qualified customers only. Requires a new two year rate plan, sold
> separately.
>
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- 2a.
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Questions and Problems
Posted by: "HAL9000" jrswebhome@yahoo.com jrswebhome
Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:36 pm (PDT)
iMac 3.06GHZ IntelCore2 Duo Processor
12GIGRAM
1TB HD - 2 Partitions (Snow Leopard 10.6.8 & Lion 10.7)
Plus Firewire connected 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12
I boot mostly on the Snow Leopard Partition. The Lion Partition always mounts, no problem. I run Time Machine and backup only the Snow Leopard Partition on the separate 500 GB HD.
Problem:
500 GB HD seems to forget how to mount, or is completely unable to mount. Yes, the connections are fine. There goes a secure backup I had made for weeks.
Problem:
My Snow Leopard Installer disk seems shot. I can see it mounted, booted from the Lion Partition, but I cannot create a disk image of it, alas. I cannot boot from the Installer disk anymore, drat. I tried creating a disk image of it months ago, but I cannot burn a new Installer DVD to replace my old installer for whatever reason.
Booting from Disk Warrior disk has not been able to correct the 500GB HD problems.
Can anyone suggest what has happened to the 500GB?
Is there an app that will force mount the 500GB HD?
Related?
About this Mac
1TBSATA Disk
¥ Untitled
¥ SL HD
¥ Lion HD
¥ Untitled
Why are four partitions listed in About this Mac?
Booting from Snow Leopard Partition, opening Disk Utility
1TB WDC WD1001fals - 40u980 media
¥ diskOs1
¥ SL HD
¥ Lion HD
¥ diskOs4
Why four partitions show, I only have two partitions?
Any advice would be appreciated.
John R
- 2b.
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Re: Questions and Problems
Posted by: "Barry Austern" barryaus@fuse.net barryaus
Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:15 pm (PDT)
At 7:36 PM +0000 10/11/11, HAL9000 wrote:
>
>
>iMac 3.06GHZ IntelCore2 Duo Processor
>12GIGRAM
>1TB HD - 2 Partitions (Snow Leopard 10.6.8 & Lion 10.7)
>Plus Firewire connected 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12
>
>I boot mostly on the Snow Leopard Partition. The
>Lion Partition always mounts, no problem. I run
>Time Machine and backup only the Snow Leopard
>Partition on the separate 500 GB HD.
>
>Problem:
>500 GB HD seems to forget how to mount, or is
>completely unable to mount. Yes, the connections
>are fine. There goes a secure backup I had made
>for weeks.
As you have not said what this Time Machine disk
is, brand or how it is connected, I can only
guess. I do remember having a similar problem
with a WD external FireWire plus USB drive. The
solution was to disconnect the FireWire and then
plug it back in. As I recall (this was many years
ago) it did work okay on USB, but I wanted the
FireWire as I was using it as a backup, bootable
disk, and this was when I had a G5 machine. If
your eternal drive is dual interface then try
hooking it up the other way.
>Problem:
>My Snow Leopard Installer disk seems shot. I can
>see it mounted, booted from the Lion Partition,
>but I cannot create a disk image of it, alas. I
>cannot boot from the Installer disk anymore,
>drat. I tried creating a disk image of it months
>ago, but I cannot burn a new Installer DVD to
>replace my old installer for whatever reason.
No ideas for this problem. Sorry.
>Booting from Disk Warrior disk has not been able
>to correct the 500GB HD problems.
>
>Can anyone suggest what has happened to the 500GB?
>Is there an app that will force mount the 500GB HD?
Possibly it is just kaput. One possibility might
be sticktion. Try banging on the table
(seriously) to free it up. This used to be a
problem more many years ago, but I guess it can
still happen.
>Related?
>
>About this Mac
In what OS? I'm running 10.6.8 and the "about
this Mac" window shows only the startup disk, not
all my volumes. Where did you see this? Was it in
the "about this Mac" window under the Apple menu?
>1TBSATA Disk
>¥ Untitled
>¥ SL HD
>¥ Lion HD
>¥ Untitled
>
>Why are four partitions listed in About this Mac?
>
>Booting from Snow Leopard Partition, opening Disk Utility
>
>1TB WDC WD1001fals - 40u980 media
>¥ diskOs1
>¥ SL HD
>¥ Lion HD
>¥ diskOs4
>
>Why four partitions show, I only have two partitions?
Go to the partition tab in Disk Utility and see
just what partitions you really do have.
Conceivably the untitled ones are super-small,
really an artifact of how you partitioned it, and
you might as well not bother about it.
I presume that your external 500GB drive does not
show up under Disk Utility, even if as an
unmounted drive? If so then it probably does show
a hardware problem. The good news is that
although you have probably lost your Time Machine
backups external drives are so inexpensive now
that it is an excuse to go from the meager 500GB
you have now to a TB or more for Time Machine
backups.
--
Barry Austern
barryaus@fuse.net
- 2c.
-
Re: Questions and Problems
Posted by: "Jim Saklad" jimdoc@me.com jimdoc01
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:24 pm (PDT)
> I boot mostly on the Snow Leopard Partition. The Lion Partition always mounts, no problem. I run Time Machine and backup only the Snow Leopard Partition on the separate 500 GB HD.
>
> Problem:
> 500 GB HD seems to forget how to mount, or is completely unable to mount. Yes, the connections are fine. There goes a secure backup I had made for weeks.
How are you able to determine that "the connections are fine" if it doesn't mount?
What brand/model of external case? Some have more problems than others.
The components involved include:
Firewire port on the computer
Firewire cable
Firewire port on the external case
Internal wiring of the external case
Controller chipset in the external case
Power supply in the external case
Actual drive failure of the external drive.
The first things I would try include restarting from a different user login, and performing a Safe Boot.
> Problem:
> My Snow Leopard Installer disk seems shot. I can see it mounted, booted from the Lion Partition, but I cannot create a disk image of it, alas. I cannot boot from the Installer disk anymore, drat. I tried creating a disk image of it months ago, but I cannot burn a new Installer DVD to replace my old installer for whatever reason.
Can you read the DVD (see the contents)?
Do you have another computer or another optical drive to try it in?
> About this Mac
> 1TBSATA Disk
> ¥ Untitled
> ¥ SL HD
> ¥ Lion HD
> ¥ Untitled
>
> Why are four partitions listed in About this Mac?
1. When you install Lion, the installer creates a Recovery Drive partition.
2. Every HFS+ drive has a 128 MB EFI partition.
--
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Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@me.com
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- 2d.
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Re: Questions and Problems
Posted by: "Carl Cristella" donlutchi@yahoo.com donlutchi
Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:02 pm (PDT)
you can format through disk ulitiy
--------
IT Guy
North Philadelphia Charter School
_____________________ _________ __
From: HAL9000 <jrswebhome@yahoo.com >
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:36 PM
Subject: [macsupport] Questions and Problems
iMac 3.06GHZ IntelCore2 Duo Processor
12GIGRAM
1TB HD - 2 Partitions (Snow Leopard 10.6.8 & Lion 10.7)
Plus Firewire connected 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12
I boot mostly on the Snow Leopard Partition. The Lion Partition always mounts, no problem. I run Time Machine and backup only the Snow Leopard Partition on the separate 500 GB HD.
Problem:
500 GB HD seems to forget how to mount, or is completely unable to mount. Yes, the connections are fine. There goes a secure backup I had made for weeks.
Problem:
My Snow Leopard Installer disk seems shot. I can see it mounted, booted from the Lion Partition, but I cannot create a disk image of it, alas. I cannot boot from the Installer disk anymore, drat. I tried creating a disk image of it months ago, but I cannot burn a new Installer DVD to replace my old installer for whatever reason.
Booting from Disk Warrior disk has not been able to correct the 500GB HD problems.
Can anyone suggest what has happened to the 500GB?
Is there an app that will force mount the 500GB HD?
Related?
About this Mac
1TBSATA Disk
¥ Untitled
¥ SL HD
¥ Lion HD
¥ Untitled
Why are four partitions listed in About this Mac?
Booting from Snow Leopard Partition, opening Disk Utility
1TB WDC WD1001fals - 40u980 media
¥ diskOs1
¥ SL HD
¥ Lion HD
¥ diskOs4
Why four partitions show, I only have two partitions?
Any advice would be appreciated.
John R
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- 3a.
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Windows XP frozen
Posted by: "Gay Norman" bastnpny@gmail.com bastnpny
Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:45 pm (PDT)
Hello all,
I'm having a problem and I know there is a quick fix but I can't for
the life of me remember it. I thought I had it written down
somewhere, but I can't find it.
I am running OS 10.4.11 using parallels 3.0.
There is only one program that I need Windows for. And, right now,
it is stuck. The cursor won't go anywhere.
Please help!
Thanks
--
Gay Norman
office 254-622-2828
fax 254-622-3888
cell 817-648-8367
Diamond G Carriage Company
www.diamondgcarriage.com
817-648-8367
Driver/Brazos Carriage Company
www.brazoscarriage.com
817-648-8367
General Secretary/The Friesian Cross Registry (FXR)
(formerly the original Friesian Blood Horse Registry)
www.thefriesianxregistry.com
thefriesianxregistry@gmail.com
254-622-2828
The Friesian Horse Studbook of North America (FHSNA)
Executive Director
www.FHSNA.com
254-622-2916
Ambit Marketing Consultant
Let me save you 30% on your electric bill. TX, IL, PA
http://www.gnorman.joinambit. com
817-648-8367
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 3b.
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Re: Windows XP frozen
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:48 pm (PDT)
Ctrl-alt-del?
Otto
On 11 October 2011 20:47, Gay Norman <bastnpny@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm having a problem and I know there is a quick fix but I can't for
> the life of me remember it. I thought I had it written down
> somewhere, but I can't find it.
>
> I am running OS 10.4.11 using parallels 3.0.
>
> There is only one program that I need Windows for. And, right now,
> it is stuck. The cursor won't go anywhere.
>
> Please help!
>
> Thanks
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 3c.
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Re: Windows XP frozen
Posted by: "Gay Norman" bastnpny@gmail.com bastnpny
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:17 pm (PDT)
Thanks Otto but that is not it. Its one of those like resetting the
pram....
Gay
On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Otto Nikolaus wrote:
> Ctrl-alt-del?
>
> Otto
>
> On 11 October 2011 20:47, Gay Norman <bastnpny@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm having a problem and I know there is a quick fix but I can't for
> > the life of me remember it. I thought I had it written down
> > somewhere, but I can't find it.
> >
> > I am running OS 10.4.11 using parallels 3.0.
> >
> > There is only one program that I need Windows for. And, right now,
> > it is stuck. The cursor won't go anywhere.
> >
> > Please help!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
--
Gay Norman
office 254-622-2828
fax 254-622-3888
cell 817-648-8367
Diamond G Carriage Company
www.diamondgcarriage.com
817-648-8367
Driver/Brazos Carriage Company
www.brazoscarriage.com
817-648-8367
General Secretary/The Friesian Cross Registry (FXR)
(formerly the original Friesian Blood Horse Registry)
www.thefriesianxregistry.com
thefriesianxregistry@gmail.com
254-622-2828
The Friesian Horse Studbook of North America (FHSNA)
Executive Director
www.FHSNA.com
254-622-2916
Ambit Marketing Consultant
Let me save you 30% on your electric bill. TX, IL, PA
http://www.gnorman.joinambit. com
817-648-8367
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 3d.
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Re: Windows XP frozen
Posted by: "Carl Cristella" donlutchi@yahoo.com donlutchi
Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:02 pm (PDT)
time for upgrade!! sounds like you force quit within Windows. Going up to keyboard
--------
IT Guy
North Philadelphia Charter School
_____________________ _________ __
From: Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail. >com
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [macsupport] Windows XP frozen
Ctrl-alt-del?
Otto
On 11 October 2011 20:47, Gay Norman <bastnpny@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm having a problem and I know there is a quick fix but I can't for
> the life of me remember it. I thought I had it written down
> somewhere, but I can't find it.
>
> I am running OS 10.4.11 using parallels 3.0.
>
> There is only one program that I need Windows for. And, right now,
> it is stuck. The cursor won't go anywhere.
>
> Please help!
>
> Thanks
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 3e.
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Re: Windows XP frozen
Posted by: "Gay Norman" bastnpny@gmail.com bastnpny
Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:17 pm (PDT)
Upgrade is not an option at this time. There is a way to do this, I
just can't find it. I have done it before.
Thanks, though.
Gay
On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Carl Cristella wrote:
> time for upgrade!! sounds like you force quit within Windows.
> Going up to keyboard
>
>
> --------
> IT Guy
> North Philadelphia Charter School
>
> _____________________ _________ __
> From: Otto Nikolaus <otto.nikolaus@googlemail. >com
> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [macsupport] Windows XP frozen
>
>
> Ctrl-alt-del?
>
> Otto
>
> On 11 October 2011 20:47, Gay Norman <bastnpny@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm having a problem and I know there is a quick fix but I can't for
> > the life of me remember it. I thought I had it written down
> > somewhere, but I can't find it.
> >
> > I am running OS 10.4.11 using parallels 3.0.
> >
> > There is only one program that I need Windows for. And, right now,
> > it is stuck. The cursor won't go anywhere.
> >
> > Please help!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
--
Gay Norman
office 254-622-2828
fax 254-622-3888
cell 817-648-8367
Diamond G Carriage Company
www.diamondgcarriage.com
817-648-8367
Driver/Brazos Carriage Company
www.brazoscarriage.com
817-648-8367
General Secretary/The Friesian Cross Registry (FXR)
(formerly the original Friesian Blood Horse Registry)
www.thefriesianxregistry.com
thefriesianxregistry@gmail.com
254-622-2828
The Friesian Horse Studbook of North America (FHSNA)
Executive Director
www.FHSNA.com
254-622-2916
Ambit Marketing Consultant
Let me save you 30% on your electric bill. TX, IL, PA
http://www.gnorman.joinambit. com
817-648-8367
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 3f.
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Re: Windows XP frozen
Posted by: "Otto Nikolaus" otto.nikolaus@googlemail.com nikyzf
Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:37 pm (PDT)
Eh?
On 11 October 2011 20:54, Carl Cristella <donlutchi@yahoo.com > wrote:
> time for upgrade!! sounds like you force quit within Windows. Going up to
> keyboard
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 4a.
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Safari refuses to scroll down
Posted by: "davidpriceuk" dprice@fireflyuk.net davidpriceuk
Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:57 pm (PDT)
Using an iMac with Lion. Many times recently I've opened a website and I can read the top but when I try to scroll down, I can't. Using the mouse to drag the slider doesn't work, and the down arrow doesn't either. But when I switch to Firefox and the same website, everything's fine.
I'm not happy that Lion took away the up and down arrows, but I could cope if this didn't happen. I suppose the answer is: Use Firefox.
David
- 4b.
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Re: Safari refuses to scroll down
Posted by: "bob morin" rbmorin11@gmail.com rbmorin2002
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:00 pm (PDT)
On Oct 11, 2011, at 3:57 PM, davidpriceuk wrote:
>
> I'm not happy that Lion took away the up and down arrows, but I could cope if this didn't happen. I suppose the answer is: Use Firefox.
You can restore this and some other things in using a small program: Lion Tweaks
bob
- 4c.
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Re: Safari refuses to scroll down
Posted by: "Bill B." bill501@mindspring.com kernos501
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:45 pm (PDT)
At 8:57 PM +0000 10/11/11, davidpriceuk wrote:
>Using an iMac with Lion. Many times recently I've opened a website and I can read the top but when I try to scroll down, I can't. Using the mouse to drag the slider doesn't work, and the down arrow doesn't either. But when I switch to Firefox and the same website, everything's fine.
Try using the spacebar to scroll down and shift-scrollbar to scroll up.
Bill
--
_____________________ _______
Sent using Eudora in 10.6.8
- 5.
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Siri Is iPhone 4S-Only Today, But Where Will It Be Tomorrow?
Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:16 pm (PDT)
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/ 2011/10/siri- is-iphone- 4s-only-today- but-where- will-it-be- tomorrow/
Sent to you by Bill Boulware via Google Reader: Siri Is iPhone 4S-Only
Today, But Where Will It Be Tomorrow? via Epicenter by Chris Foresman
on 10/11/11
Apple is launching the iPhone 4S this week with the recently unveiled
integration of Siri, a voice activated âassistant.â Siri accepts voice
input and can perform a range of actions on your iPhone, including
looking up information, adding calendar events, and even composing
short texts and e-mails.
Siri shows a lot of promise in realizing human computer interaction
using natural language. Right now, however, Apple seems to be wisely
keeping the feature firmly in the âbetaâ stage even as it seeks to
popularize talking to your cell phone to get things done. As iPhone 4S
users start using Siri en masse, itâs worth considering where Apple
might integrate the technology in the future. Will talking to computers
and devices transcend conventional keyboard or touch input, à la Star
Trek?
Right now Siri is limited to the iPhone 4S. Presumably much of the
reason for that limitation is that Siri requires a lot of computing
power to work. Siri co-founder Norman Winarsky told 9to5 Mac that the
Siri app, originally released in early 2010, required a number of
workarounds and optimizations to work well on the then-current iPhone
3GSâs 600MHz processor. Even with the significant processing boost
gained from the iPhone 4Sâs dual-core A5 processor, however, Apple is
still calling the tech a âbetaâ nearly two years after its first public
release.
Apple has set pretty high expectations for Siri, and it likely didnât
want to hamper it with compromises to get it to work on older hardware.
After all, the company never quite lived down the mocking it received
for early iterations of the handwriting recognition in its Newton
MessagePad. Though later versions worked quite well (and the technology
was eventually integrated into Mac OS X as Inkwell), its reputation for
completely misinterpreting handwritten words never died.
However, the iPad 2 already has the relatively high powered A5
processor built in, so itâs easy to assume it would be the next iOS
device to get a Siri upgrade. Recent evidence buried in iOS 5 suggests
Apple is already working on an A5-powered Apple TV, perhaps bringing
support for 1080p video to the tiny set-top box. With an A5 processor,
you could potentially tell your Apple TV to play the next episode of
The Venture Bros instead of fumbling with its simplistic remote.
Unfortunately, the iPod touch was passed over for an A5 upgrade for
this holiday season, so it may be as much as a year before the iPod
touch could potentially take advantage of Siri.
While these sound like easy things to pull off, the fact is that that
these devices may not get Siri at allâ"at least not in the short term.
Besides a relatively beefy processor to power Siriâs natural language
interpreter, it also relies on speech-to-text recognition technology
from Nuance. This works by encoding and sending an audio file to
Nuanceâs servers, which return the interpreted text to the iPhone.
Without a constant data connection, Siri doesnât work, period. iPhones
are rarely without data connections, but the same canât be said for
WiFi-only iPads and iPod touches. Apple will still need to find a way
to work the feature into these devices in a way that doesnât frustrate
users when it isnât available after leaving the range of a convenient
WiFi signal.
Another limitation may also be a deviceâs included microphone. The
iPhone 4S has, like its iPhone 4 predecessor, a secondary microphone
used to filter background noise. Those with experience using Nuanceâs
Dragon speech-to-text products for Windows or Mac OS X are undoubtedly
familiar with the need for a good quality headset to get the best
resultsâ"and even then accuracy isnât 100 percent. Given this, we
believe that the relatively low quality microphones in the iPad and
iPod touch again may not give the best results, and could possibly
prevent these devices from using Siri in the near future.
The Apple TV benefits from having a constant network connection for
speech recognition, but Apple would have to build in a microphone that
can filter background noise well enough from approximately 10 feet.
Alternately, the mic could be built into the remote (a suggestion we
had for a speech-powered Google TV). Or, an iPhone could serve as a
voice-activated remote for an Apple TV: âSiri, play season two of Mad
Men on Apple TV.â
More exciting, however, may be the prospect of integrating Siri into
Mac OS X. All current Mac hardware is already capable of doing the
necessary speech-to-text processing locally, so it doesnât need to be
network-connected for Siri to work. (Siri was originally designed to be
modular, according to Winarsky, so any voice recognition system could
be plugged into it.) Mac OS X already has a fairly rudimentary voice
control system built in, but Siriâs artificial intelligence could take
that to the next level. Imagine firing off tweets as fast as you could
say them, dictating e-mails, searching for airline tickets, and more
simply by telling your Mac want you want and letting Siri do all the
work.
Big predictions meet big skepticism
Big predictions about the importance of Siri are already coming. Cross
Research analyst Shannon Cross believes Siri is a pivotal technology.
âWe believe,â Cross wrote in a recent note to clients, âthe use of
natural language and potentially the ability to distinguish between
voices could one day change the way we interact with electronic devices
and provide a substantial technology advantage to Apple. Quite simply,
we have not seen a demonstration of comparable AI in any other consumer
system.â
Winarsky is perhaps even more bullish. âApple will enable millions upon
millions of people to interact with machines with natural language,â he
told 9to5 Mac. â[Siri] will get things done and this is only the tip of
the iceberg. Weâre talking another technology revolutionâ"a new
computing paradigm shift.â
However, the promise of the technology should be tempered with the
realities of human interaction. Ars spoke to some of the creative minds
behind Star Trek about the future of human computer interaction last
year. While visual effects artist Doug Drexler believed voice
interaction held promise, visual artist supervisors Michael and Denise
Okuda were skeptical that it would be as useful as some may hope.
For instance, imagine talking to your cell phone, computer, or other
device in a public space. With even a handful of people talking to
their devices, the cacophony could quickly become a problem. âI donât
want to hear peopleâs phone conversations, let alone them talking to
their devices,â Denise Okuda told Ars.
Michael Okuda also noted that voice input is generally inefficient.
âImagine Iâm looking at some photos, and I want to say, âUp, up, left,
down one, photo number 3362, no, the one on the left.ââ"thatâs much
slower than just clicking or tapping,â he said. âNatural language is, I
think, going to have some significant limitations.â
Still, in the confines of our own homes and offices, Siriâs voice-based
control could shave off a good amount of time performing mundane tasks
like setting reminders or performing searches. And, such control could
make computers and other mobile devices far more powerful for those who
simply canât use keyboards or touch input due to injury or handicap.
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Re: Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard
Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:41 pm (PDT)
Hello DD,
Thanks for the info and link.
Note: IOMEGA eGO drive. I selected the indented volume first out of the box
and erased the volume. The drive would then not mount. Then I read the
manual [more closely] and the posts and then selected the drive and
partitioned. I still cannot get the drive to partition into 1 solid
partition. I have two seemingly happy 500GB partitions. Time will tell if
IOMEGA is kind to my files and I do not mind two partitions since I get to
have two cool names.
John F. Richardson
-----Original Message-----
From: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Denver Dancom
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:26 AM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard
Howdy.
The theoretical size limit at this time is the a lot more than any hard
drive manufactured.
It's millions of terabytes.
Here's an article from Apple's KB:
"Mac OS X: Mac OS Extended format (HFS Plus) volume and file limits"
-Last Modified: July 29, 2008
-Article: HT2422
<http://support.apple.com/ >kb/HT2422
"Maximum volume size and file size (Mac OS X 10.4 or later) close to 8
EB"
So a 1 TB hard drive should do just fine. On a personal note, I've
frequently formatted drives of 1, 1.5, and 2 TB in size with zero
problems.
Be sure to pick the drive item itself in Disk Utility and do not
select/pick the partition/volume name list below the drive and
indented.
Then click the Partition tab.
Then you must change the Partition Layout popup item from the "Current"
to 1 Partition. You can also choose 2 or more Partitions.
The easily missed part is picking something other than "Current"
partition. This is a sort of "gotcha" of bad design IMO but it is what
it is.
Then click the Options button below the partition window pane. The
Options button does not become available until you change the Partition
Layout from "Current" to something else like 1 Partition.
Pick the GUID in the Options pane but read the short blurb first if
using an older Mac OS on a non Intel Mac.
Then click OK and then click the Apply button. It should take about
15 to 20 seconds to complete.
You can rename the drive after the reformat is complete.
Denver Dan
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0700, John Richardson wrote:
> What is the maximum size of a USB external hard drive on Snow Leopard?
>
> I had Disk Utility fail to partition a 1TB external USB drive as 1
> partition.
>
> John F. Richardson
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Re: Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard
Posted by: "Denver dan" denver.dan@verizon.net denverdan22180
Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:25 pm (PDT)
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On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:40 PM, "John Richardson" <richards@spawar.navy.mil > wrote:
> Hello DD,
>
> Thanks for the info and link.
>
> Note: IOMEGA eGO drive. I selected the indented volume first out of the box
> and erased the volume. The drive would then not mount. Then I read the
> manual [more closely] and the posts and then selected the drive and
> partitioned. I still cannot get the drive to partition into 1 solid
> partition. I have two seemingly happy 500GB partitions. Time will tell if
> IOMEGA is kind to my files and I do not mind two partitions since I get to
> have two cool names.
>
> John F. Richardson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Denver Dancom
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:26 AM
> To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [macsupport] Maximum size of an external disk on Leopard
>
> Howdy.
>
> The theoretical size limit at this time is the a lot more than any hard
> drive manufactured.
>
> It's millions of terabytes.
>
> Here's an article from Apple's KB:
>
> "Mac OS X: Mac OS Extended format (HFS Plus) volume and file limits"
> -Last Modified: July 29, 2008
> -Article: HT2422
>
> <http://support.apple.com/ >kb/HT2422
>
> "Maximum volume size and file size (Mac OS X 10.4 or later) close to 8
> EB"
>
> So a 1 TB hard drive should do just fine. On a personal note, I've
> frequently formatted drives of 1, 1.5, and 2 TB in size with zero
> problems.
>
> Be sure to pick the drive item itself in Disk Utility and do not
> select/pick the partition/volume name list below the drive and
> indented.
>
> Then click the Partition tab.
>
> Then you must change the Partition Layout popup item from the "Current"
> to 1 Partition. You can also choose 2 or more Partitions.
>
> The easily missed part is picking something other than "Current"
> partition. This is a sort of "gotcha" of bad design IMO but it is what
> it is.
>
> Then click the Options button below the partition window pane. The
> Options button does not become available until you change the Partition
> Layout from "Current" to something else like 1 Partition.
>
> Pick the GUID in the Options pane but read the short blurb first if
> using an older Mac OS on a non Intel Mac.
>
> Then click OK and then click the Apply button. It should take about
> 15 to 20 seconds to complete.
>
> You can rename the drive after the reformat is complete.
>
> Denver Dan
>
>
>
> On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:29:24 -0700, John Richardson wrote:
>> What is the maximum size of a USB external hard drive on Snow Leopard?
>>
>> I had Disk Utility fail to partition a 1TB external USB drive as 1
>> partition.
>>
>> John F. Richardson
>
>
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- 7a.
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Re: On/off switches on hard drives
Posted by: "John Richardson" richards@spawar.navy.mil
Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:50 pm (PDT)
Hello DD and Tod and Randy and anyone else,
Thanks for the information and advice.
Would the sleep mode cause a freeze that requires a "power down the mac"
solution to get the Mac back to operational mode? The only really bad issues
I have had always seem to have a set of sleep messages in the console log.
Just curious, but do the manufactures boxes generally have pictures of the
drive so you can verify that the drive has an on/off switch? Next time I'm
in an Apple store I'll check but I was wondering if someone knows the answer
before I get off work...
John F. Richardson
-----Original Message-----
From: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Denver Dancom
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:34 AM
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [macsupport] On/off switches on hard drives
Howdy.
My personal experience with external HDs that do not have a true off/on
switch has been uniformly bad.
I've had both Seagate FreeAgent and Western Digital MyBooks externals
and both had problems connected to lack of a true off/on switch. One
of them had a pressure sensitive touch type switch which usually didn't
work. If it did work no one could tell if it was in off or on
position. Just a mess.
I have neighbors with similar externals and with similar problems.
Folks on this groups have also reported problems with external drives
that don't have a true off/on switch.
I recommend against buying this type of drive.
Some external drive cases also have a built in sleep mode that can't be
subordinated to the Mac OS Energy Saving sleep settings. This was
certainly the case (so to speak) with the Western Digital MyBook. As
I've written here often enough that older members will groan at reading
it again, a Western Digital MyBook is the only external I've ever taken
to the garage and reduced to splinters with a 16 lb sledge hammer.
Very satisfying.
<SNIP> ... To save bandwidth
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- 7b.
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Re: On/off switches on hard drives
Posted by: "Randy B. Singer" randy@macattorney.com randybrucesinger
Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:09 pm (PDT)
On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:50 PM, John Richardson wrote:
> Would the sleep mode cause a freeze that requires a "power down the
> mac"
> solution to get the Mac back to operational mode? The only really
> bad issues
> I have had always seem to have a set of sleep messages in the
> console log.
Yes. In fact, many Western Digital owners experience this exact
problem.
> Just curious, but do the manufactures boxes generally have pictures
> of the
> drive so you can verify that the drive has an on/off switch? Next
> time I'm
> in an Apple store I'll check but I was wondering if someone knows
> the answer
> before I get off work...
Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't.
If the box doesn't have a picture, just ask the salesman if you can
open the box and have a look. I always do, and I can't remember them
ever saying no.
Most drives have on/off switches. Seagate drives sometimes don't,
or they have an odd pressure-sensitive switch that is almost
impossible to use. I avoid Seagate external hard drives for just
this reason alone.
_____________________ _________ _________ ____
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
http://www.macattorney.com/ts. html
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- 8a.
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Re: Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?
Posted by: "Carl Cristella" donlutchi@yahoo.com donlutchi
Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:02 pm (PDT)
Yes, mine was grandfathered in.
--------
IT Guy
North Philadelphia Charter School
_____________________ _________ __
From: "jamesrob@sonic.net " <jamesrob@sonic.net >
To: macsupportcentral@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:17 AM
Subject: [macsupport] Upgrade ATT iPhone 4 to 4S unlimited data?
I'm on my 2nd iPhone (started with an iPhone 3, now have an iPhone 4. My recollection was that when the iPhone 4 came out (or perhaps later, when I got mine), ATT no longer offered NEW unlimited data plans. I know I was able to keep unlimited data by adding an additional 2 years to my contract.
Will I be able to keep unlimited data when I upgrade (I'm eligible) to an iPhone 4S? ATT's website doesn't clarify this as far as I can tell.
Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson
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network printing issues - Lion
Posted by: "Mark Mahabir" mark.mahabir@gmail.com maccymaccomms
Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:32 pm (PDT)
Just posted this:
https://discussions.apple.com/ thread/3370578
Would appreciate greatly any suggestions!
Mark
- 10a.
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Mobile Me Question
Posted by: "D. Brett Woods" brettlyw@mac.com brettlyw
Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:38 pm (PDT)
Does anyone know what is going to happen to the Mobile Me features of Back to my Mac and synching of things like key chains and Safari bookmarks?
Mobile Me goes away in June 2012. Does anyone know if Apple is planning to support these services through the new iCloud?
Thank you.
Brett
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Re: Mobile Me Question
Posted by: "Bill Boulware" bill.boulware@gmail.com boulware0224
Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:41 pm (PDT)
Back to Mac and Bookmarks are moved to iCloud along with contacts,
calendars, find my iPhone, and mail. Syncing of Key Chains, passwords,
docks, etc is no longer done.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 19:38, D. Brett Woods <brettlyw@mac.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Does anyone know what is going to happen to the Mobile Me features of Back
> to my Mac and synching of things like key chains and Safari bookmarks?
>
> Mobile Me goes away in June 2012. Does anyone know if Apple is planning to
> support these services through the new iCloud?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Brett
>
>
>
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Re: Mobile Me Question
Posted by: "D. Brett Woods" brettlyw@mac.com brettlyw
Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:43 pm (PDT)
Thank you.
Any alternative out there to synching of key chains?
On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Bill Boulware wrote:
> Back to Mac and Bookmarks are moved to iCloud along with contacts,
> calendars, find my iPhone, and mail. Syncing of Key Chains, passwords,
> docks, etc is no longer done.
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 19:38, D. Brett Woods <brettlyw@mac.com > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what is going to happen to the Mobile Me features of Back
>> to my Mac and synching of things like key chains and Safari bookmarks?
>>
>> Mobile Me goes away in June 2012. Does anyone know if Apple is planning to
>> support these services through the new iCloud?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Brett
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Mobile Me Question
Posted by: "Barb Adamski" adamski@telus.net bkadamski
Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:45 pm (PDT)
Here's some info on that http://www.apple.com/mobileme/ transition. html
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On 2011-10-11, at 4:38 PM, D. Brett Woods wrote:
> Does anyone know what is going to happen to the Mobile Me features of Back to my Mac and synching of things like key chains and Safari bookmarks?
>
> Mobile Me goes away in June 2012. Does anyone know if Apple is planning to support these services through the new iCloud?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Brett
>
>
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